The Bridge

fredley

17:00

@Unionhawk I'd rather have a beer with Obama tbh

GnomeSlice

Join paragon matchmaking. Say "first game". Get kicked.

off a good start

Unionhawk

@fredley I mean, yes, but the question wasn't "which recent president would you have a beer with out of all of them" the question was "is GWB a cool enough guy to qualify"

Yuuki

@GnomeSlice Wow, isn't the game still in beta?

Unionhawk

I think the answer to the first might honestly be Bill Clinton, but

GnomeSlice

Yep

Ronan

17:03

Aside from the interesting use of VR. This just makes me smile so much.

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlice Welcome to the moba community at large.

Ronan

Lucky's Tale 2016 Gameplay Trailer

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badp

two bugs

Wow, you have't been playing this game since the internal alpha? Fucking noob. Kicked + reported.

fredley

@badp Is that actual handp?

two bugs

17:03

Oh right, this is @GnomeSlice's first moba

Fluttershy

Also why I play HotS.

two bugs

Have fun with arguably the worst community ever

GnomeSlice

what does "caster" mean

Yuuki

@GnomeSlice Character that relies on their abilities for damage rather than their basic attacks.

two bugs

In what context? It can mean a few different things

Fluttershy

17:04

Join a game, say "first game", get replies like, "no worries have fun :D"

Unionhawk

@twobugs I mean, where "arguably" means "probably not technically since the rest of the internet is the literal worst"

fredley

@badp That is such an Italian hand gesture. I don't think anywhere else does this

GnomeSlice

ah

thanks

Lazers 2.0

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Q: Deus Ex Human Revolution

Can anyone please tell me if I upgrade to the DIRECTORS cut version on Steam, which is where I also have my prior edition of the same game, just not the Director cut, will the game download and overlay over the old game and keep my saved game files as is? Or do I have to start all over again. T...

deus-ex-human-revolution

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Q: Multiplayer gaming

Please tell me some fps offline LAN multiplayer games for PC,but not high-end games,some low level and medium level games,and thanks for taking time for reading and answering my question

game-identification competitive-gaming games-for-windows

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlice think mage. Very ability and resource dependent.

two bugs

17:05

Caster can mean what @Yuuki said but sometimes it can mean the people commenting on a video or whatever

GnomeSlice

robot mage with bombs

Yuuki

@twobugs He probably means in context to gameplay though.

two bugs

Yeah, true

Unionhawk

Nah, @GnomeSlice is just looking to shoutcast instead to avoid the actual community

two bugs

Hm my lunch was less awesome than intended

Fluttershy

17:06

For your first game, I'd recommend Twinblast or Grux

badp

@fredley among first GIS results for "italian hand gestures"

StrixVaria

@Fluttershy Which is funny because you can't even use Grux until level 7.

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I got Lamb Burgers. They were more like sliders. Interesting, but not what I expected

StrixVaria

Because he's "advanced".

If by "advanced" they mean "run up and press buttons and win."

Fluttershy

@StrixVaria Oh what? They changed that then. O_o

fredley

17:06

@badp How to torture Italians: make them speak while sitting on their hands

badp

@fredley it is a visual-verbal pun. You guys don't tend to go "what the cabbage"

StrixVaria

Grux, Fei Long (probably got that name wrong), and Kallari are unlocked at player level 7.

two bugs

@fredley Are you sitting on their hands?

Or are they sitting on their own hands?

fredley

@twobugs It doesn't matter

Fluttershy

@StrixVaria What about Sparrow?

badp

17:07

or at least that's what I think it is

StrixVaria

Everyone else is unlocked off the bat.

Fluttershy

@StrixVaria Whaaaaat. Sparrow is way harder to play than Grux. Wtf.

Wipqozn

@Dragonrage I'm actually fairly well liked. IT's kind of a huge pain in the ass, actualy, because I'm very hermity.

fredley

Meanwhile, in Canada

StrixVaria

I've played bot matches as 12 of the 13 heroes so far and Sparrow was probably the hardest to do anything useful with.

Fluttershy

17:08

Oh hey, @badp is here. I can tell him pseudo-in-person that I am jealous of him and grumpy about it.

StrixVaria

As Kallari I did terribly for a long time because my teammates left me to defend a lane alone against 2 bots, which is like the opposite of what Kallari should be doing.

But once we got to mid-game even with me under-farmed I saw the power potential there.

Unionhawk

@fredley Oh shit :\

fredley

@Unionhawk ikr

Chippies

So, the dream house we were gonna buy just got sold and we weren't informed that someone else was trying to buy it and the owner wasn't informed that we also wanted to buy it

SaintWacko

@Chippies Wow, what the fuck

Chippies

17:09

yay for shady real estate agents trying to get all the commission

SaintWacko

You need to fire your realtor

Like, now

Chippies

@SaintWacko wasn't ours

SaintWacko

@Chippies Oh :(

Unionhawk

@fredley Or, alternatively, The Onion Joe Biden

Chippies

very disappointing, there were literally no flaws (that we could find) in that house

fredley

17:11

@Unionhawk I would def have a drink with Joe Biden

Or Frank Underwood

Actually, that's not such a great idea

Chippies

now looking for houses just seems lame

GnomeSlice

i got a kill

SaintWacko

@Chippies I know that feeling. That's how we felt when we found our current house

Unionhawk

@fredley Especially the The Onion version, though they are merging into one, so

fredley

SaintWacko

17:12

@Chippies Man, realtors can be awful

Wipqozn

@Sterno I probably will too, and I blame @StrixVaria and @Fluttershy and equal amounts,but I more equally blame @StrixVaria than @Fluttershy.

SaintWacko

I wish you were in this area, I have a great realtor

Chippies

@SaintWacko we have a great realtor, but it wasn't his listing

StrixVaria

@Fluttershy I'm most excited about Reinhardt, Mei, Pharah, and Symmetra.

Chippies

idk much about realtors and such, but they're supposed to work together or something

and the realtor that had the house listed is a shady and greedy fuck :/

SaintWacko

17:13

@Chippies So your realtor contacted their realtor, and their realtor just ignored it?

Lazers 2.0

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Q: OBS has a black screen

I got OBS on my computer and tried to use it but whenever i was in monitor or window capture it didnt work and just gave me a black screen, please help

technical-issues recording

Chippies

@SaintWacko I'm not sure on the details, but we did go look at the house and everything, so I guess he did contact him and he did not ignore

SaintWacko

Does the seller know that this happened? Maybe there's something they can do against their realtor

Because that's bullshit and they should not get a commission on that

Chippies

he just ignored the bit where he tells us that someone else is also trying to buy the house and tell the owner that we are interested as well

@SaintWacko Idk, wife does all the phone talking, we only just found out

apparently these people tried to buy the house before, but their finances fell out or something

Fluttershy

@StrixVaria I've always liked playing supporty types in games, so I feel like Zarya and Mercy will be my best bets. But Mei is best waifu.

Chippies

17:15

there's still a slight possibility that it might fall out again, but they probably got it figured out this time, so it's unlikely

StrixVaria

Oh yeah, Mercy looks good too.

I use Mercy's wings in Diablo 3 :P

I was really hoping to like D.Va but in the brief 20-30 minutes I got to play once she wasn't really my style.

Fluttershy

@StrixVaria I want to! But I can't afford to pre-order right now, thanks to Senran Kagura and Salt & Sanctuary. :(

StrixVaria

Favorite character aesthetically, though, for me.

@Fluttershy I don't know how I got them. I didn't preorder Overwatch yet.

Fluttershy

@StrixVaria PS4/Xbone got them for having D3 Ultimate Evil edition.

StrixVaria

@Fluttershy That's it.

I have it on PS4.

Fluttershy

17:20

@StrixVaria Gotcha. Will you be getting Overwatch there as well? Or PC?

StrixVaria

@Fluttershy Probably PS4 because the friends I have will be getting it on PS4.

Even though I prefer to play shooters with a mouse, playing with friends and frustrating controls > playing with a mouse alone.

Fluttershy

@StrixVaria Gotcha

StrixVaria

Plus, since playing Destiny and now Paragon, I'm coming to terms with joystick aiming.

WarThog

@StrixVaria That's why I confuse people by playing fpses on PC with a controller

StrixVaria

@WarThog Yeah, you're allowed to just be wrong.

WarThog

17:22

But then I'm better when I actually play console

StrixVaria

If you're training to play on console, fine.

I guess.

You have found the one way I will concede that using a joystick to aim a FPS game on PC might make sense.

WarThog

But the problem is that's not the only reason I do it, I just enjoy the challenge

I will show myself out now

StrixVaria

There are challenges that are fun and challenges that are frustrating.

The former are good, the latter are literally intolerable for me.

Fluttershy

I haven't decided where I want Overwatch yet.

I may go PC for now, and then PS4 when I have a better home network setup.

StrixVaria

I'm pretty sure I'll wind up owning it for both as well ultimately.

Wipqozn

17:26

Also according to steam that poop gme @Sterno bought me might not be terrible, which is surprising

I assumed it was basically bad rats

two bugs

Which game did he buy you?

Also I'm almost definitely getting overwatch on PC

Fluttershy

@twobugs There's Poop in my Soup

two bugs

Oh. I put that game as not interested when it came up on my queue.

GnomeSlice

it's bad

two bugs

Huh, apparently someone started a rumor that one of the Paris attackers used Playstation messages to plan their attack. As predicted, it's completely baseless

This is a bold new era for the console war, though. "PS4 supports terrorism!"

murgatroid99

17:36

That's just such a stupid argument in general

> Terrorists used roads to get to the location of their attack; therefore roads are evil

two bugs

Yeah, the start of the rumor was apparently one of the Paris attackers owning a PS4. Therefore they used it to plan terrorism and PS4 has super encryption evil blah blah blah

murgatroid99

Or, as we've been seeing recently, "terrorists used encryption to hide things, therefore encryption is evil"

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(In true Sony fashion, they apparently do not encrypt user messages AT ALL)

Powerlord

Terrorists drink water, therefore water should never be consumed again.

GnomeSlice

first game, first win

this is fun

I'm starting to see what people like about these games

two bugs

17:40

Terrorists live on this planet, therefore we should destroy this planet

"Sometimes you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette"

quartata

"Sometimes you have to genocide an entire species of chickens to make an omelette"

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlice Really? :o After one game? Also, did you play against bots, or against people?

Powerlord

> bake the hall in the candle of her brain

Also, what game are we talking aboot?

Fluttershy

@Powerlord Paragon

GnomeSlice

@Fluttershy I played 2.5 against bots yesterday. Steel, Howitzer, and Murdock but it got interrupted by patch. played pvp today with howitzer

Also Gadget has bouncy boobs in her tutorial video. Glad to know they got the important content in for alpha

Powerlord

17:45

Meh, I've tried MOBAs before, they're just not my thing.

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlice Congrats on your first pvp win! It can be quite a rush.

GnomeSlice

Yeah that was fun

I didn't hsve that many kills but howitzer is for clearing creeps right

I had a lot of those

Fluttershy

For some reason, a pvp win in a moba gives me the same rush as beating a boss In Dark Souls.

GnomeSlice

gonna try pvp with steel now

MadMAxJr

I learned in Dark Souls last night that the knight enemy with a rapier can riposte and one-shot you.

GnomeSlice

17:47

whats a tanks role

Powerlord

Oh yeah, a commenter on Polygon got upset about people constantly comparing Blizzard's Overwatch to Valve's Team Fortress 2. In the comments to a news article about ~~Valve~~ Blizzard announcing a new ~~Meet the Team~~ Meet the characters video.

two bugs

@Powerlord Yeah, I can't get into them

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlice Soak up damage and disrupt the enemy team.

two bugs

Made serious efforts to get into dota and league... meh

GnomeSlice

do i do normal pushes and stuff

or do i just defend against pushes

Powerlord

17:48

Specifically, I tried to get into DOTA2 and I tried to get into Monday Night Combat / Super Monday Night Combat.

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlice You'd still do normal pushes, but with a teammate usually.

badp

@Powerlord it's true, please don't confuse TF2 with MOBA garbage

:}

GnomeSlice

@badp overwatch isnt a moba

Powerlord

@badp Like Monday Night Combat (and unlike Super Monday Night Combat), Overwatch is more FPS than MOBA.

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I don't think Overwatch is really a moba, it's more of an arena shooter with moba style characters and abilities

Fluttershy

17:49

I don't understand the whole, "My game was first so your game is trash" mentality...

Sterno

@Wipqozn At least we made Fluttershy get S&S

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@badp Just hates everything, do not let it bother you

badp

I was mildly sarcastic

Fluttershy

:OOOOOOOOO @badp!

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@badp Also hates my mousing, which is clearly several levels above adequate

Powerlord

17:51

@Fluttershy I never said Overwatch was bad. I still haven't gotten to try it since Blizzard never actually gave me a beta pass for it.

Wipqozn

@Sterno and he isn't plying it! It's great.

Fluttershy

I was joking about hating you and being grumpy! D: I hope you didn't think I was being serious!

badp

though limiting "MOBA" to mean "DOTA clone" seems kinda restrictive to me

Powerlord

However, I can point out specific elements from Overwatch that were lifted directly from TF2, such as the Payload game mode.

Hell, they didn't even bother to give it a different name.

badp

It is actually true that at least Overwatch solves some problems with your average MOBA such as round length and quitting games midway

Fluttershy

17:52

Thank you for the gift, @badp. :o You really didn't have to do that.

Sterno

Why bother?

Wait, are we saying TF2 is a MOBA now?

Does that make any team-based FPS a MOBA?

MadMAxJr

How is Salt and Sanctuary?

Fluttershy

@Powerlord I wasn't implying you were. But it's definitely a common thing in the industry. And it's something I don't understand. :(

Powerlord

@Fluttershy And yet the most popular MMO definitely wasn't the first, it was just the most polished.

badp

No, TF2 still has loadouts and 100 gameplay-unique elements that change each class. Overwatch would rather have 100 distinct heroes

two bugs

17:53

MOBA means mobile online battle arena, and honestly I'll round up if you meet two of the criteria

Powerlord

(when it was released that is)

two bugs

Mobile and online? MOBA.

badp

There are no classes in Overwatch, just a bunch of heroes, DOTA style

two bugs

Dark Souls 3? MOBA

Mario? MOBA

GnomeSlice

okay I suck at steel

Powerlord

17:55

@badp TF2 has very few items that make major changes to how a class is played. The ones I can think of off the top of my head are the 3 DemoMan shields, the Dead Ringer, the Huntsman, and the Gunslinger.

Sterno

Mmm, Dead Ringer

That was the most fun I had playing TF2

Fluttershy

@twobugs MOBA means multiplayer online battle arena. O_o not mobile.

two bugs

Oh, well most of those still stand!

badp

@Powerlord and the rocket launchers, and the scatter guns, and the wrenches, and …

Fluttershy

@badp This is true! And part of why I think it will appeal to me more than TF2

MadMAxJr

17:57

Huntsman <3

Sterno

TF2 really needed (needs?) friendly fire

MadMAxJr

No. No it did not. Some heavies are terrible enough as is.

Powerlord

@Sterno The existence of the Spy class is going to guarantee that will never happen.

MadMAxJr

There are servers with that.

Fluttershy

I don't know why I never could get into TF2, but I just couldn't. I tried and tried, but it never clicked the way other competitive shooters did.

badp

17:57

@Sterno pls

two bugs

Friendly fire doesn't really work well in TF2

Powerlord

I mean, servers can toggle it on, but it doesn't work with all weapon types.

badp

I think flamethrowers can't do friendly fire?

also stabs

Sterno

@badp Spraying your teammates with a flamethrower in case one is a spy is lame

two bugs

I can see it being okay in scrims, but not in a pub

GnomeSlice

17:58

I'm a terrible steel

MadMAxJr

Well that's easy

Only communists burn.

SaintWacko

I once got an amazing spy kill

badp

@Sterno very few people actually do that

SaintWacko

I was using my flare gun to shoot up at some enemies on a bridge

badp

They are not fun people

Powerlord

17:59

@badp The Scatterguns don't do that much to change the class. It's still mainly "get up close and do a lot of damage". The only wrench that changes your playstyle a lot I already mentioned... I suppose you can change your playstyle a bit for the Eureka Effect, but that's actually pretty rare.

SaintWacko

And a cloaked enemy spy walked in front of me right as I fired

badp

@Powerlord well yes not every primary changes how you play as much

MadMAxJr

I still don't quite get the one scattergun. The little four barrel pepperbox one.

Sterno

@badp I also haven't played in 2 4 6 some number of years.

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