The Bridge

alexanderpas

12:00 AM

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GnomeSlice

How do I chat

textwise

badp

@GnomeSlice Everybody's or just somebody's?

@GnomeSlice Y all chat U team chat

GnomeSlice

@badp Everybody's...

badp

@GnomeSlice You don't want to do that

GnomeSlice

Yes. I do.

Nick T

12:01 AM

[Force Suggest] You do not want to do that.

badp

I mean, it's possible, but you don't want to.

GnomeSlice

Also, I don't know what that was, but it was the STUPIDEST custom map ever.

badp

Fair warning - one of the maps in the current rotation on the ATF servers has an 'ATF' logo in its spawn. Don't bother with it, it's terrible and buggy, disconnect.

GnomeSlice

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badp

Right now tho, they're playing Snowdrift, which is... eh.

LessPop_MoreFizz

12:02 AM

gaming.stackexchange.com/suggested-edits/2632

GnomeSlice

@badp That one is full.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Oh /review... you entertain me so some days

Ian Pugsley

@LessPop_MoreFizz hah!

GnomeSlice

So, I've been down here for over an hour

And I still haven't played a single game.

of TF2.

And now the game window is inoperable again.

Ian Pugsley

@GnomeSlice add me on Steam (thepugs) - I'm playing a nice and simple map atm

alexanderpas

12:05 AM

> And I am dancing in my mother's skirt when noone sees :s

GnomeSlice

@IanPugsley Are you in the Gaming.SE steam group?

alexanderpas

@LessPop_MoreFizz WTF? why would someone do that?

Ian Pugsley

@GnomeSlice si

GnomeSlice

I didn't see you. :S

Yeah, I can't add you

no idea how apparently

LessPop_MoreFizz

@alexanderpas The same reason people edit wikipedia articles to simply be the word penis 250 times in a row.

GnomeSlice

12:07 AM

Wait, there it is.

@LessPop_MoreFizz But who's counting.

@badp oh lol, this is an italian server.

alexanderpas

@GnomeSlice pizza server?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@GnomeSlice My favorite wikipedia vandalism ever is when some dude edited the article about Special Relativity to replace every instance of the letter 'R' with a 'W'.

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Mana

Oh? GnomeSlice downloaded TF2?

GnomeSlice

@Mana Finally.

badp

problem?

Mana

12:09 AM

Awesome. Have fun with it.

GnomeSlice

@badp WARN-ARN-ARN-ARNING-ARNING-ING-ING-ING-ING

badp

?

GnomeSlice

Shitty connection.

badp

that's low fps

not connection

GnomeSlice

Oh well.

badp

12:10 AM

also a scout pwned me when I said that.

GnomeSlice

Lowers settings

Also, good.

Nick T

@badp what's with all the Italian universities publishing biochem stuff...it seems like everything I see from Europe is from Italia

badp

WE R SMRTS

Nick T

jbc.org/content/early/2011/12/08/jbc.M111.314559

GnomeSlice

Aaaand now I can't open the game window again.

While it does whatever it's doing.

Nick T

12:11 AM

Plus our collaborators in Modena or whatever

LessPop_MoreFizz

@badp But not smart enough to manage your own national finances?

Or for that matter, not smart enough to not continuously elect a complete joke of a national leader continuously for over a decade? (good riddance btw, though I will miss being able to make Bunga Bunga jokes.)

GnomeSlice

Lol. Timed out.

What a waste of $0.47

badp

@LessPop_MoreFizz I won't argue with that but... 8 years of Bush? :P

alexanderpas

@badp not to mention his father.

Nick T

Darth Vader?

LessPop_MoreFizz

12:13 AM

@badp I never claimed that Americans as a people were particularly smart.

badp

Well, turns out Berlusconi is particularly smart, like it or not.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@alexanderpas Bush 1, for all his failings - he did vomit on the Japanese Prime Minister after all - was not a stupid man.

Nick T

@badp what

GnomeSlice

Whatever TF2 is doing when it's loading things, it's raping my machine.

Tim Stone

@BobCratchit The information in the onebox is in the RSS feed for the proposal

alexanderpas

12:15 AM

@LessPop_MoreFizz First Gulf War.

GnomeSlice

How do I change classes/teams?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@alexanderpas Bush 1 was somebody whose policies I am not, looking back, neccesarily fond of, but he was hardly an apocalyptically bad president like his son. He was a pretty unimpressive center-rightist, and a pretty logical extension of the Reagan era.

@alexanderpas The first Gulf War wasn't a particularly bad bit of foreign policy.

badp

@NickT it takes smarts to build up an empire from pretty much nothing, and subjugate a country to your needs. We can criticize how he got there, but...

Nick T

@badp It doesn't matter if a national leader is smart or not, their job is to serve their country effectively, not themselves.

badp

I didn't say he was doing his job properly

I said he was smart

alexanderpas

12:16 AM

@LessPop_MoreFizz but you could be sure of it that his son would be finishing the job ;)

GnomeSlice

I don't agree with all of the people saying BUSH JR WAS A TERRIBLE PRESIDENT.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@alexanderpas Need I remind you that the first Gulf War was a direct reaction to the invasion, by Iraq, of another sovereign country?

GnomeSlice

If he managed to get elected for the full 8 years, he must have been doing something right.

Nick T

@badp who's your new supreme leader?

badp

a university professor

Nick T

12:17 AM

Monti or something?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@GnomeSlice Having done something right electorally and having done something right for the country are two different things.

@NickT An unelected technocrat economics professor.

Nick T

I like unelected people...they're generally less full of shit

badp

He's doing all the shit that needs doing and people that want to be elected don't want to do

GnomeSlice

WOW.

Nick T

e.g. Ford

GnomeSlice

12:17 AM

TF2 is making my OTHER running software skip.

Nick T

Gerald Ford

Gerald Rudolph "Jerry" Ford, Jr. (born Leslie Lynch King, Jr.; July 14, 1913 – December 26, 2006) was the 38th President of the United States, serving from 1974 to 1977, and the 40th Vice President of the United States serving from 1973 to 1974. As the first person appointed to the vice-presidency under the terms of the 25th Amendment (after Spiro Agnew had resigned), when he became President upon Richard Nixon's resignation on August 9, 1974, he became the only President of the United States who was never elected President nor Vice-President by the Electoral College. Before ascending t...

badp

@GnomeSlice It's frozen, dude. You've been kicked from the server for AFK

GnomeSlice

Even just sitting on the server list not connected to a server, my local music player is now stuttering the same way.

badp

Don't play TF2 fullscreen. It's buggy

GnomeSlice

@badp What? I left that server a long time ago.

I'm not playing fullscreen.

alexanderpas

12:18 AM

who's doing all the tax cuts, elected people, the unelected actually want tp pay more taxes.

badp

@GnomeSlice Oh, nvm

GnomeSlice

I was just playing on another server... and left it by mistake.

Anyway, even not connected to any servers, TF2 makes my entire PC stutter.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@NickT Incidentally, Gerry Ford is also the only fashion model to have been elected president.

Nick T

@badp That actually reminds me of the crap going on in my state where the state gov't is taking over city gov'ts because of financial crisis

> A local publication described the governor, Rick Snyder, as a slave-master using a legal “lash” against Michigan’s black-majority cities.

@Powerlord tons of fun in Lansing

GnomeSlice

MORE KILLS THAT ROUND (1) AS PYRO THAN PREVIOUS BEST

Nick T

12:21 AM

Positive reinforcement

alexanderpas

:2695280 :D

GnomeSlice

I don't know if it's my connection or my PC but it keeps stuttering

Powerlord

@GnomeSlice Sorry, was away. , to change classes . to change teams

GnomeSlice

At any rate, I can't really play this.

Too slow.

alexanderpas

@GnomeSlice it's your PC, TF2 has active lag compensation

GnomeSlice

12:23 AM

Even with my [new] graphics card

@alexanderpas I have very active lag.

Powerlord

@alexanderpas tf2wiki.net ? Not wiki.teamfortress.com ? :P

@GnomeSlice btw, what graphics card?

GnomeSlice

Why does it keep wanting me to do a 15 minute trial of a premium account?

I thought I bought something.

alexanderpas

@Powerlord remember, server problems.

GnomeSlice

@Powerlord Uh. Let me check.

If I can remember hbow

badp

@GnomeSlice You're probably on a server that does its own premium stuff

Is it skial? Or nightteam? Or saigns?

If yes, disconnect immediately

Powerlord

12:25 AM

TF2 Official Wiki: Lag Compensation

badp

@GnomeSlice you're in a bot ridden, pay to win, absolutely terrible server. Disconnect

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GnomeSlice

@badp Nightteam I think.

For fuck's sake.

I hate this game.

badp

Do you know why the trial is 15 minutes long?

Fun fact: servers have a reputation system

alexanderpas

@badp go on.

badp

Every player's connection costs the server, uh, 15 minutes' worth of points

GnomeSlice

12:28 AM

@Powerlord ATI Radeon HD 5450.

badp

Keeping the player on the server gains it reputation, as it must imply the player's having fun.

Powerlord

@GnomeSlice Huh, that should be an OK card for the game.

badp

If the player disconnects before 15 minutes, you're going to lose reputation.

If the player disconnects after 15 minutes, you're going to gain reputation.

GnomeSlice

It's probably my connection then.

badp

Do you think it's coincidental that the trial is 15 minutes long?

GnomeSlice

12:29 AM

No.

Sheesh, I get it.

badp

I don't honestly know what the reputation system is for, or what does it let you do

@GnomeSlice I'm also talking to Alex, and to anybody else who doesn't know.

GnomeSlice

Oh.

badp

you'll have to ask @Powerlord for what the reputation system is for

GnomeSlice

My mistake.

Powerlord

@badp There are actually two systems. One is used by QuickPlay, the other is used to delist servers from the master server entirely.

GnomeSlice

12:30 AM

I don't really care, to be honest.

alexanderpas

@badp join premium server, try functionality, disconnect after 2 minutes ;)

GnomeSlice

Whenever it's loading anything, my TF2 game locks up completely.

badp

I think the main issue is that if your reputation drops too low, you'll get delisted and you'll be cut off from all the goodies

such as gifts during seasonal events (halloween, mostly)

Powerlord

I think that one's the one linked to the QuickPlay system

GnomeSlice

What a fucking waste of time.

badp

12:31 AM

@Powerlord A server delisted from the master server then will not show up in the server list?

Powerlord

@badp Yup. Sadly, this one is completely undocumented as to how it works.

badp

@Powerlord I see.. Well, I'll care about it when the servers I care about get dropped off.

If it's undocumented, it's probably because you need to make such egregious violations, very few have triggered it

Powerlord

Yes, and since nightteam and stuff are still lsited on the masters, I can only assume that one doesn't work the way it should, hence why the QuickPlay one was created.

badp

It's probably even fully manual.

I don't think Valve would ban a server from such a fundamental system without human confirmation

Powerlord

The only real reason I know there are two systems is that Valve's Fletcher Dunn mentioned it last week.

badp

12:34 AM

in the 'let's be honest' thread?

Lazers

1

Q: What are those blue glowing stoneobjects for?

I'm now half through the game and have seen several of this objects you see in the screenshot. They don't seem to be there just for decoration purpose. But I also haven't found anything I could do with them. Will you be able to do something with these objects, or have I already missed something...

trine-2

Powerlord

@badp No, actually

badp

I'm surprised that post didn't hit Reddit anyway

Powerlord

It was in response to "A question about serverscore"

> There are two independent scoring systems. One for Steam, one for TF2. They work on similar principles, but are not identical. The purpose of both is primarily to identify really bad servers, not differentiate between "good" and "better" ones. We will probably merge them at some point.

TF2's system is documented, Steam's isn't.

badp

well, it can't be too different.

Fredy31

12:37 AM

153 new messages?!? You guys talk way too much.

badp

@Fredy31 .

Fredy31

Why your message was only a few numbers for a couple seconds?!? And now only a dot.

agent86

argh, dredmor patch is making it crash on my laptop

ARGHHHH

Wipqozn

12:58 AM

@GnomeSlice Yes it is.

alexanderpas

@Fredy31 chat.stackexchange.com/messages/2695379/history

Lazers

1

Q: Can I poison my friends to death?

I've got poison bombs equipped as my lethal bomb type, but I'm a little wary using them around my allies, for fear that perhaps the poison would effect them as well. It seems like my fellow assassins might be immune (seeing as I can generally throw one point blank and not be effected by it), b...

assassins-creed-revel

alexanderpas

@Lazers murder

Nick T

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is that 100% CG?

that, the Tomb Raider and AC:Rev trailers are pretty ridiculous

Mana

Compared to #amazon's offering on the #kindlefire, comixology sucks

Tweeted by tzenes on December 13, 2011 at 12:52 AM

HE LIVES

Nick T

1:03 AM

Could easily see a 100% CG "live action" movie a-la FF:SW that's not so uncanny-valley soon

alexanderpas

@NickT hart to tell, but it probaly is.

Wipqozn

@Mana Whatever happened to him anyways? He very rarely makes an appearance on the site anymore.

Nick T

@Wipqozn SC2 is old-hat now

wait till SC2:HOS probably

LessPop_MoreFizz

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Mana

@Wipqozn shrug Life? Maybe he got bored, maybe he felt like he needed a break.

Nick T

1:08 AM

The bit at the end of the HOS trailer where an Ultralisk takes a hit from a siege tank looks pretty badass

Wipqozn

@Mana It was probably because of you! Were you mean to him!?!?!?

Mana

good...one... chalks up another one to the amount of times this joke has been used

alexanderpas

@LessPop_MoreFizz BADGER!!!

LessPop_MoreFizz

:269546 I own this game. It is every bit as good as it looks.

alexanderpas

@LessPop_MoreFizz It's dangerous to go alone, take this: 9

Wipqozn

1:15 AM

@Mana Do you mean to imply that I use the same jokes alot?

That's crazy talk.

Lazers

0

Q: How do trip wire based bombs work?

So far I've been completely neglecting the "trip wire" bomb class, and I'm wondering if I'm missing out. It seems like the sort of thing I'd have to set up in advance, and I rarely know what path I or my enemies are going to take. I like the ability to drop a bomb as I'm fleeing, but it doesn't...

assassins-creed-revel

agent86

@LessPop_MoreFizz what the eff is this?

BEAR DOES NOT WANT PINE CONES, WTF

Wipqozn

@LessPop_MoreFizz THank you for reminding me this game exists.

GnomeSlice

1:36 AM

> If you having dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I dodged 99 arrows but my knee took one.

ಥ_ಥ

WHY.

> Genitles Prohibited

Good thing I read the server rules before joining.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@agent86 It is the worlds foremost bear-driving-a-car-simulator.

@Wipqozn You own it too? High-Five!

Mana

I have it too

agent86

@LessPop_MoreFizz I'm not sure, the bear driving a car sim game market is super crowded. I don't know how they can claim that title.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@agent86 The authors other game is quite great as well:

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Lazers

0

Q: What's the murder-to-renovation ratio?

It seems like every time I renovate a building, my Awareness jumps a good 20% give or take. Killing guards and otherwise causing a disturbance to the peace seems to give me far less, but I've been a bit lackadaisical about how many guards I off if the situation calls for it. Approximately how...

assassins-creed-revel

0

Q: Where are the locations of all the purchasable houses in Skyrim?

I understand that the first purchasable house is in Whiterun. I want to know what other houses are buyable in the game and what cities/towns they are located in. I would also like to know their order of appearance or availability.

skyrim

alexanderpas

1:45 AM

@Lazers murder

LessPop_MoreFizz

murder We miss you now more than ever.

3

GnomeSlice

The Scottish Resistance ?

agent86

2:04 AM

@LessPop_MoreFizz I love the ultra-realistic physics engine in that game. They really modeled the way an ox flies when you get to the top of a hill well.

Powerlord

Interesting, someone on my friends list is playing DOTA 2, but if you check the server info on a DOTA 2 server, it just lists the players as "Player 1" and up

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice Indeed. Did you just unlock it?

Powerlord

@GnomeSlice It's a Demoman Stickybomb launcher.

@Wipqozn It could be a random drop, too.

Lazers

0

Q: Kinect facial recognition and Xbox live cloud profiles

One of the new Xbox dashboard features is cloud storage for your Live profile - apparently you can download your profile to another Xbox with your points balance and friends list etc. But exactly what account data from my profile is stored in the cloud? In particular, does it include the Kinect ...

xbox-live

Powerlord

@GnomeSlice But yeah, 3 of the weapons/items per class can be unlocked by gaining achievements in addition to getting them as random drops.

David B

2:09 AM

of course it has to do with murder - the game is Assassin's creed. it's not about making friends!

the tag is superfluous

GnomeSlice

@Powerlord I have no idea how to use the CLoak as a spy.

Ullallulloo

@GnomeSlice Right click?

GnomeSlice

I think so, but I'm not entirely sure how it works.

It doesn't always cloak.

And it doesn't STOP cloaking.

Ullallulloo

@GnomeSlice Right-click again to stop.

GnomeSlice

Doesn't seem to work reliably :S

I don't understand

Mana

2:15 AM

@GnomeSlice Yo, my new electric drum kit is actually the sickest thing. I can't wait to get to play it.

Ullallulloo

@GnomeSlice Hmm...I haven't had problems with it, but my computer has very little ram, so I probably wouldn't notice anyway.

GnomeSlice

Does the 'dead ringer' behave differently?

Powerlord

@GnomeSlice Yes

Mana

@GnomeSlice Yes it does

GnomeSlice

@Powerlord How differently.

Mana

2:15 AM

It basically makes you play dead

GnomeSlice

Oh.

That would be why I'm having trouble using it

Powerlord

@GnomeSlice You have to right-click to pull it out. While you're holding it, the first damage you take, you cloak for 6.5 seconds or so

It's the hardest to learn, but once you learn it, it works fairly well.

GnomeSlice

Can't uncloak to stab any body?

Mana

@Powerlord god it makes me so paranoid. I can't count the amount of times I've just started shooting everywhere after killing a spy.

Powerlord

Yes, but the Dead Ringer makes a loud noise when you uncloak.

Ullallulloo

2:17 AM

Plus you only take a tenth the damage.

Powerlord

Also, uncloaking takes about 2 seconds.

GnomeSlice

How do I uncloak?

Powerlord

@GnomeSlice right-click.

Be aware that you do have a cloaking meter, and when it runs out, you automatically decloak.

GnomeSlice

I see now

Starting to figure this out

Powerlord

Except with the Cloak and Dagger, which only makes you partly visible when you move when your cloak meter runs out.

(cloak and dagger recharges by standing still)

Anyway, you can recharge the Dead Ringer and Invisibility Watch by picking up ammo boxes or standing near a dispenser.

GnomeSlice

2:19 AM

How does everyone know what the cloak sound means?

I don't even recognize it when I do it.

Powerlord

@GnomeSlice er... by playing the game? :D

GnomeSlice

I uncloak and this solder immediately turns around and blows me away

Wipqozn

I can't believe @GnomeSlice is finally playing Team Fortress 2.

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn Finally got it Downloaded.

Powerlord

There's a Ffft sound for the Invisibility Watch and Cloak & Dagger (both cloak and decloak for these) and an electric zapping sound for the Dead Ringer (decloak only)

Also, for the Dead Ringer, if you disguise as your own team, the corpse and fake weapon it drops are for that class rather than Spy.

GnomeSlice

2:21 AM

Eh, fuck the spy.

Powerlord

Spy is the hardest class to pick up.

Wipqozn

Yeah, it's not a good class for someone who has just started playing.

GnomeSlice

@Powerlord That's useful.

Wipqozn

you need to know the maps for starters.

Powerlord

I mean, 3 of your 5 items are specialty items... 4 of 5 if you count the Knife's backstabs.

GnomeSlice

2:22 AM

@Wipqozn I've played it before.

But yeah

Why can't I pick a pyro here?

Powerlord

Server may have class limits.

Like "only 2 pyros"

GnomeSlice

Wow.

Powerlord

Although usually you see the limits on Sniper, Spy, and maybe Engineer.

GnomeSlice

> player amidoinitrite.jpg was automatically assigned to team BLU

>_>

alexanderpas

4 medics + heavy isn't cool if you got that against you.

Powerlord

2:25 AM

I've noticed I'm definitely better at certain classes than others. Very good at Spy, pretty good at Engineer and Pyro, Mediocre at Medic, Soldier, Scout, and Huntsman Sniper. Bad at Heavy, Rifle Sniper, and Demoman.

Wipqozn

@Powerlord There's nothing worse then joining a server, only to see your team is made up of 4 snipers, and 5 spies. that's when you turn around, and find another server.

GnomeSlice

Shit.

Powerlord

But the Spy thing may be because I've clocked 700 hours at it.

I'm not joking either, I passed the 700 hour mark last week.

GnomeSlice

Not sure what I just did, but I think I dropped my building material as an engineer

Wipqozn

@Powerlord Only last week? I thought you passed it a few ~~weeks~~ months ago.

Powerlord

2:26 AM

@GnomeSlice btw, Engineer is the class that has changed the least from the console version.

alexanderpas

my best time as a medic was when we were ubering a heavy with 3 other medics.

GnomeSlice

I see that.

I never played him much.

Powerlord

@Wipqozn Nope, I was at like 697 at the beginning of the week.

GnomeSlice

How do I get new building material?

alexanderpas

@GnomeSlice dispenser.

Powerlord

2:27 AM

@GnomeSlice Ammo boxes, a dispenser, dropped weapons, or the cabinet in your spawn room.

btw, weapon slot 4 is the build panel, 5 is the destruct panel.

Don't confuse the two!

GnomeSlice

Got it, thanks.

Powerlord

I know the UI is different; I think the destruct UI has red Xs over the buildings you already built so you know it'll destroy that building.

Also, every building except the Combat Mini-Sentry (replaces the standard sentry if you equip the Gunslinger Melee weapon) is upgradable to level 3 now.

Also, don't be afraid to work with other Engineers to repair/upgrade their stuff.

You get assists for kills a sentry makes that you've repaired (or refilled the ammo for)

Not sure if you get teleport points for teleporters you've upgraded/repaired or heal points for dispensers you've upgraded/repaired.

GnomeSlice

The Quick-Fix

Any good?

Powerlord

badp likes it, but usually the stock Medigun is better.

It doesn't hurt to keep one around if you found it. You can experiment with it.

GnomeSlice

Okay, screw sniper

Ullallulloo

2:35 AM

Stack Exchange Gaming Blog: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Quickfix

badp on September 16, 2011

"please use normal uber"

Perhaps the most controversial item that we got from the Uber Update (yeah, old news) is the Quick Fix. There’s a vocal bunch of people that actively dislikes it and ask medics to switch to one of the two classic medic guns, and well, it is undeniable that the quickfix does have a few major downsides in respect to the regular medi gun.

Namely, the #1 reason why people oppose the use of the quickfix is its uber does not grant you invulnerability. Well, invulnerability definitely is every bit as cool as it sounds. Yes, if you use the quickfix too late you&# …

GnomeSlice

What does right-click as the pyro do?

Oh wait

Lets see if I remember

Deflects grenades?

Ullallulloo

@GnomeSlice Compression blast, it extinguishes fires and deflects grenades and rockets, yes.

GnomeSlice

GAh my timing sucks with it

Anyone want to play?

Ullallulloo

@GnomeSlice gimme a couple minutes...

alexanderpas

@GnomeSlice installing.

Ullallulloo

2:43 AM

@alexanderpas It's like 8 GB...

GnomeSlice

10

alexanderpas

@Ullallulloo oh wait, look at that, it's already installed.

Ullallulloo

@alexanderpas .....

alexanderpas

@GnomeSlice what server?

Ullallulloo

k, I gotta close FF now to try to squeeze out every MB of RAM that I can for TF2...

GnomeSlice

2:45 AM

@alexanderpas I have no idea.

Gaming Paradise Lounge

Ugh

WHY

Do they have DEADMAU5 ads in the server

Promote someone who actually needs the promotion...

Mana

Like Skrillex.

GnomeSlice

No

>_>

alexanderpas

@Mana Who?

GnomeSlice

Like Joman

Or REVOLVR

Oh Petsta

Phetsta*

Mana

I dunno man, this Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites song is pretty awesome, I think we need to promote it more.

@alexanderpas popular dubstep artist

Powerlord

2:49 AM

I noticed I suddenly received Professor Speks. I only assume it was from GnomeSlice

GnomeSlice

@Powerlord Probably.

I listed you as a referral.

Wipqozn

@FallenAngelEyes Oh wow, I never realized until now that NEcormancers no longer need an exploitable corpse to summon minions.

GnomeSlice

@Mana It's not bad, but everyone already knows about those people.

Mana

@GnomeSlice (I was kidding)

Wipqozn

@FallenAngelEyes Although I'm worried that they may be removing the ability to summon a large number of minions...

Powerlord

2:51 AM

@GnomeSlice Yeah, that'd do it.

GnomeSlice

I assume that's a hat?

Powerlord

@GnomeSlice Misc item, I think

In TF2, every class has 1 hat slot and 2 Misc slots

GnomeSlice

The hats all strike me as kind of silly.

Mana

@GnomeSlice You're not alone in that, because they are. Despite this, people buy crazy amounts of them.

Wipqozn

Did someone say hats?

alexanderpas

3:03 AM

TF2, Y U NO WORKING NICE?

GnomeSlice

3:25 AM

brass beast?

Oh, it sucks.

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice It's actually awesome.

GnomeSlice

No, it's terrible.

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice How so?

Powerlord

The slow-down of the Brass Beast makes it not such a good choice.

GnomeSlice

SLow as hell.

Wipqozn

3:43 AM

@Powerlord I wouldn't think that would matter so much.

Powerlord

@Wipqozn You spin up slower, too

Wipqozn

@Powerlord I don't play heavy much myself, but isn't it possible to tap the mouse button so that the minigun is always fully 'spinned', but you won't fire?

alexanderpas

@Wipqozn isn't that what's the right button for

Wipqozn

@alexanderpas I'm not sure. Like I said, I don't play heavy. In fact I think I've played it for about 5 minutes.

GnomeSlice

Right mouse button spins up the barrel.

@Powerlord Whoops, sorry.

Whenever I close TF2 it crashes.

Wipqozn

3:59 AM

@GnomeSlice Yeah, in that case I don't see the problem. IT wouldn't be best for just running around, but that's not how a heavy plays.

Powerlord