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6:02 PM
@alexanderpas Agreed, but it'll have to wait a few days.
 
@GnomeSlice the link is actually to someone trying to tell the Dalai Lama joke to the Dalai Lama
 
@NickT I saw that, thought it was funny, then watched the whole thing. The thumbnail isn't actually in the video.
 
Featuring Super Meat Boy, Shank, NightSky HD, Cave Story+, Gratuitous Space Battles, Bit.Trip Runner, and Jamestown: http://www.humblebundle.com
 
@ArdaXi Hah, I was right!
There's no way you can not buy that bundle.
 
0.0 Cave story +
 
6:11 PM
True.
 
Hm, it's more expensive than the other ones.
 
@GnomeSlice yeah, was fairly surprized when I linked it
 
Still. This is definitely the best lineup so far.
 
No EFF?
 
Gah, I've already spent like $40 of my $60 grant reimbursement on games.
Paypal will be the end of me.
 
6:12 PM
Now I wait until my dad gets back and I have games!
 
@Ronan Do you have images of the two team skins for CtW?
I don't mean the skin graphic.
I mean do you have images of people using them.
 
I'll get you them from whatever angle.
 
DAMMIT
The average has gone down more than 1$ since I purchased it.
 
@badp Bit Trip Runner is now on Linux!
 
Like... 2 minutes ago.
 
6:15 PM
3 hours ago, by badp
On the minus side, this means Gaijin spent time porting Runner to Mac and Linux instead of spending time porting any of the other 4 games to Windows
 
@GnomeSlice Can you access minecraft atm?
 
@badp I just like to remind you.
 
@RonanForman Uh... possibly.
@Ronan For what?
 
@GnomeSlice So you can get whatever angle you need.
 
I just need to wait for the average to go down now
 
6:17 PM
@GnomeSlice I don't really want any of those...except GSB or maybe Bit.Trip Runner, but that's not worth it.
 
which it will, since there's like one mega donation and that's it
 
@Ullallulloo o.o
 
Gone down $.20 last minute
 
@badp Went down over 1$ between my purchase and my posting about it.
@RonanForman Can I see the ones you used in the videos?
On the start screens?
 
It's still just about $.2 too much
 
6:19 PM
@Ullallulloo You don't want Cave Story+ ? :O
 
$.01 too much
 
@GnomeSlice Join 84.92.163.43 and there'll be 2 people with those skins.
 
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Q: Can Battlefield 3 be appropriate for a non-serious gamer?

MattI'm no console gaming enthusiast but I have bought every Call of Duty and enjoy playing them in short spurts. I don't care much about the story or strategy or difficulty levels. I play on the easiest difficulty, hack around and make my way through the game. Once I've gotten through I'll play t...

 
Thank you PubNub for the realtime stats
 
I keep getting distracted from updating my flowcharts.
 
6:21 PM
Actually... can I get the skin graphics from you?
A skin viewer would be much more ideal.
 
First by lunch, now by games
 
@badp $95 too little.
 
@Powerlord Also, how's the Scottish Resistance?
 
@GnomeSlice Drunk?
 
Aww, I can't customize the split between developers
 
6:22 PM
@GnomeSlice It's an item for my second least played class. But yeah, if you can use it properly, it can be a great boon.
 
That's a step backwards
 
@GnomeSlice You said you didn't want them.
 
@RonanForman I've changed my mind.
I can use them with a skin viewer to get the angle I want.
 
The problem is that you can only explode the sticky bombs you're looking towards, rather than all of them.
 
I certainly wanted to reduce Gaijin's, Team Meat's and NightSky's cut. They're not the reason why I'm getting the bundle.
 
6:23 PM
@GnomeSlice They're on the meta post.
 
@badp Nightsky's publisher is also Cave Story +'s publisher.
 
I found nightsky to be... meh.
 
insert coin
 
@Powerlord Well if I could've customized the splits, then I would've realized.
 
1 credit
 
6:26 PM
@Powerlord Oh... that would explain some of my issues.
 
The Sco Res's other drawback is that you can't explode them in mid-air.
Also, <3 Metal Gear NES's building theme.
 
@Powerlord Well you can, you just need to launch 'em farther away
 
Hm.. Nightsky HD?
I wonder what the one I have currently is.
 
@ArdaXi Oh! I didn't figure it would be released just now. K, buying it in an instant. :) Awesome
 
@GnomeSlice It's not HD
Apparently those in the bundle are the very first HD builds.
Whatever 'HD' means.
 
6:30 PM
Ah.
We should make a game.
All of us.
That would be pretty sweet.
 
don't neglect today's steam deal, king's bounty armored princess or she's likely to cut you for staring at her oversized... sword. Also logging in enters you for the contest again today.
I have this game, and I found it to be irritating, but it also could be that I sucked at it.
 
@agent86 There's nothing else oversized about her.
 
@agent86 That's not very armored
 
@GraceNote No kidding.
 
"Knight Princess" you could get away with
 
6:37 PM
@GnomeSlice ... so I guess it's good then that I mentioned her sword was oversized.
she's armored. kind of. and I guess she's a princess? I don't see a king or a bounty though.
 
Dying a lot in Super Meat Boy is normal, or?
 
@Fabian Yes.
 
@agent86 Armor seems to be the least distinguishable element of her person.
 
@agent86 Are you blind?
 
I played almost all the way through the first game and never saw any king bounty, so at least this game's subtitle is somewhat true
 
6:38 PM
@GnomeSlice Dibs on character design!
 
@RonanForman :D
 
@GnomeSlice yes.
 
@agent86 In that era, she'd be considered naked.
 
@GnomeSlice the era with magic and dragons and frog people and necromancers? I'm pretty sure in fantasy land, that's plenty of armor.
 
No, I meant the medieval era.
 
6:40 PM
she's not taking an arrow to the knee, at any rate.
 
Didn't look like her greaves went that high
 
@badp High Deathcount.
 
I wish that joke would take an arrow to the meme.
 
that's almost too much armor for her era. she needs to be wearing a strapless leather bra and a thong to really be "truly" armored where she comes from.
 
@ArdaXi eh?
 
6:41 PM
@agent86 The amazon?
 
You asked what HD meant.
 
@ArdaXi Nightsky doesn't even have deaths.
 
Does anyone know if you can enter ludum dare as a group? Cause that would be cool.
 
Ew.
 
6:42 PM
@Fabian Yes dying is normal for SMB. :) Even recommended if you want to go for a pretty cool replay after you finish the level. ;p
 
@badp Click the little arrow.
 
You should see people playing Lost Planet 2 online.
 
what are these games I just bought in the indie bundle? I didn't even ask, I just went BUYBUYBUY.
 
Since they added a... well endowed female character model, it's rare to see anyone using one of the male models any more.
 
@GnomeSlice I see them a lot, still.
 
6:43 PM
super meat boy and GSB I know about; I think I own GSB already even.
 
@agent86 Bacon #1, Bacon #2, Bacon #3, and Super Meat Boy.
 
Doesn't help that one of the taunts you can select is an ass self-spank.
@Ullallulloo Oh, you play?
 
@GnomeSlice Yes, on the PS3.
 
@GnomeSlice Speaking of taunts, did we mention to you that G is the taunt key for TF2, and the taunt you do depends on your currently selected weapon?
 
Everyone uses the female character with the Jungle top and the Sand people bottoms.
 
6:44 PM
0
Q: Halo: Anniversary Map Packs with Halo: Reach

SSumnerI purchased Halo: Anniversary recently and was told by a friend that the maps (which run off the Reach engine) can be downloaded for free for access from within Reach, since I own both Reach and Anniversary. I could not find online how to do this, so is this possible? And if so, how?

 
Someone tell me when the average for humble bundle starts going up again.
 
@Powerlord Noticed that, but it didn't seem dependent on weapon.
For the record, the 'Jungle' top for the female character is the only one that has breast physics.
 
@Powerlord mmmm, humble indie bacon bundle
 
And the sand people bottom is basically 'no pants'.
 
@GnomeSlice It obviously popular, but there's still more without.
 
6:47 PM
I'm not going to pretend I haven't used the femme fatale either, but I do it for different reasons.
The carpetbagger female has long hair things that stretch out like rubber if you spin in circles.
 
@GnomeSlice Well, it is. Certain weapons can also taunt kill enemies directly in front of them. Scout's Sandman; Soldier's Equalizer (everyone around him plus himself); Pyro's Shotgun, Flare Gun, or Detonator; Demoman's Eyelander, Claidheamh Mòr, Scotsman Skullcutter, or Persian Persuader; Heavy's Fists; Engineer's Frontier Justice or Gunslinger, Medic's Ubersaw, Sniper's Huntsman bow, and Spy's Knife, Your Eternal Reward, Conniver's Kunai, Big Earner, Wanga Prick, or Sharp Dresser.
 
Oh wait, the SandRaider breasts have physics too. But not like the Jungle breasts.
It's a tough call between which is more revealing.
 
@GnomeSlice I just kind of didn't pay that close of attention to that...
 
Judging from the amount of people using them both, it appears to be a heated argument.
@Ullallulloo I don't have xbox live any more, so I can't play online anyway.
I'm no good at it anyway.
 
@GnomeSlice PSN's free so I can.
 
6:50 PM
I can't even with xbox live. My internet sucks.
 
@GnomeSlice It's pretty forgiving on lag though.
 
Maybe. Doesn't seem like it.
Maybe I just suck at it.
The first one had that ridiculous somersault damage immunity thing going on.
You never walked or ran anywhere, you rolled.
You could be in a huge robot suit with giant machine guns on each arm whaling on some poor dude on the ground, and not even hurt him because he's somersaulting.
 
@GnomeSlice I've noticed that it's similar when you're shooting at someone with lag. They're kind of invincible unless they stop moving.
 
@Ullallulloo It was an exploit, in the original game.
Those games are two of my favourite games ever. Nobody else seems to like them.
 
@GnomeSlice I know, but in LP2 I've gotten hit by explosions that I know would have killed me, but survived without getting hurt because my internet was slow.
 
user20683
6:57 PM
So Duke Nukem Forever apparently has DLC
 
user20683
oh god my brain hurts....
 
@WorldEngineer Multiplayer DLC, or so I understand.
 
user20683
this one is single player
 
user20683
also has some maps
 
6:59 PM
And they want to charge $10 for it?
 
user20683
apparently
 
Wasn't Duke Nukem Forever basically the biggest disaster of the year?
 
@Powerlord That's half of the whole game's cost...
 
user20683
critically yes
 
user20683
I've no idea about sales figures
 
7:01 PM
well, they claim it's a complete new campaign.
the first DLC however, is the same price, and isn't that.
 
The big problem most people have with Lost Planet is that many many things are designed to take control away from the player.
It is a bit much to be honest. You'll often be able to not even move for any length of time if there are explosions and things happening around you.
 
0
Q: BF3: Conquest - where are all of those points coming from?

YatrixWhen playing Conquest, I stay pretty mobile and basically focus on deterring the enemy, capturing flags and destroying vehicles (my favorite). I typically end up with about 3000-4000 points with 15 or so kills. I never camp as it bores the piss outta me. My question: I always see a guy that has...

 
@GnomeSlice That one Femme Fatale gun...
 
@Ullallulloo The guns are the same for every character model.
 
@GnomeSlice No, the one that you unlock by getting like Level 70 as one.
 
7:07 PM
Oh. I have no idea, I never got that far.
I think I got to 30 or something with the Femme Fatale.
 
@Powerlord The loudest perhaps
 
@GnomeSlice This one.
 
I definitely have that gun.
The one that makes all of the hearts.
 
It's homing, and if you get shot by a fully charged blast, it'll stun them for like 3 seconds.
 
What about it?
 
7:11 PM
@GnomeSlice Yeah, that one.
 
Yeah.
 
Might be level 30.
You can kill anyone with it.
 
Except it takes forever to fire.
 
If you get hit, you're completely doomed.
 
And you get stuck standing still while firing
 
7:12 PM
@GnomeSlice 'bout the same as the stun lasts.
 
@Ullallulloo Except games are free-for-alls.
I ALWAYS got killed while shooting at someone else.
With any weapon.
Oh man, I loved the Buster Grenade.
 
@GnomeSlice It's still ridiculous.
@GnomeSlice me too
Food time.
 
@Ullallulloo Yeah. Looks really silly when a big fat Vagabundo guy is using it too.
Ah, and the Gun Sword
 
@GnomeSlice The gun pen is mightier.
 
@RonanForman less attention until used ;)
 
7:17 PM
What?
 
@RonanForman a gun pen, takes way less space compared to a gun sword, you can easily hide a gun pen.
 
@alex Also you can write with it!
 
How do you link to a specific time of a youtube video?
 
Under the share option, go to more options and click use this time.
 
7:25 PM
@GnomeSlice you can do it pretty easily from the "share" part of the video UI, I think it's just an extra part on the URL
 
No idea. I just googled it and found a web tool to do it for me.
 
0
Q: What determines what is available for sale at the Tavern Item Shop?

kazzamallaWhat factors influence the items that are available in the Tavern Item shop? I've read that after completing certain levels on the harder difficulty levels the tavern shop seems to have better items, but does anyone have more detailed information about what specific factors are used to determine...

 
@GnomeSlice It's the "&t=1m18s" at the end
 
@Ullallulloo I got that, but thanks.
 
Hm, I didn't expect 3ds max to be this easy to learn.
 
7:31 PM
@ArdaXi It's not.
It's easy to get a handle on the basic tools.
 
I beg to differ.
 
Fine. Differ.
 
It depends on what you want out of it I guess
 
I don't know why I'm still in this program. I suck at all of it.
 
@Arda I had the same experience with after effects.
 
7:33 PM
@RonanForman Well, AE was more daunting for me, for some reason.
 
> The Network takes classic arena top-down shooting and adds a twist, you never fire a bullet. Collect packets and direct them into nodes while the AI is on your tail. Level up and grab more packets as you bring the fight to the AI. The Network is a total immersion experience and has a fully integrated story including an unforgettable ending. The Network is a memorable experience thick with atmosphere and flush with style.
@GraceNote Might be interested in that.
 
@Arda Admittedly I probably do everything the worst way.
 
Heh, the ends always justify the means.
 
@ArdaXi 3DS max is easy enough to learn quickly, but it's definitely not easy to quickly learn each and every one of the tools, features, etc.
 
@GnomeSlice It's not the kind of programme anyone wants to learn every single tool, feature, etc. of.
 
7:36 PM
@ArdaXi Uh... it is if you're a 3D developer...
 
@GnomeSlice No, because a game developer won't want to work with extremely high detail and stuff that takes a week to render.
 
Er.... how do you think they make modern games?
 
As much detail with as little polygons as possible.
The latter part is extremely important.
 
Yes.
And most of the fancy tools in 3D software is for getting detailed models with low polygon counts.
 
Yet, someone who works with an architect won't care about polygon count at all, and only cares about the result.
(Within reason, of course)
 
7:42 PM
@ArdaXi Well, now that you have it, you can submit custom levels for Proun.
 
A Pixar film takes about 3 years to render.
 
@GnomeSlice I wish I had the time.
 
@RonanForman ...I don't know where you heard that, but it's... incorrect.
Takes about 3 years to make from start to finish.
 
new humble bundle too
 
@stevether Yep.
 
7:46 PM
Yup, the Humble Bacon Bundle.
 
@Powerlord Now that I might buy.
 
@GnomeSlice He didn't specify the rig.
 
Hey @Powerlord, Abby claims your email ain't right and that an email we tried to send you quite possibly went up in flames.
 
I think it was implied that he was referring to the scenario of the actual Pixar development team.
 
I have 3 of the games already though
 
7:49 PM
@Gnome slice there are more than 300,000 frames in a movie
 
Hopper's Revenge is definitely an interesting challenge and not one you can bruteforce through
 
On a completely separate note, anyone remember any of the instances where StackGaming tweeted a question before we cleaned it up?
 
@RonanForman Yes. For starters, they render each section as they go. But more importantly, they have things called 'Render Farms'.
 
@GraceNote Really? I recently changed DNS hosts, let me double-check the MX records.
 
7:51 PM
Oct 31 at 0:08, by Nick T
Can you answer this? How to skip intro video? http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/33681/how-to-skip-intro-video #pc
Oct 30 at 23:59, by Ronan Forman
Can you answer this? What are "additional points" awarded for? http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/33719/what-are-additional-points-awarded-for #pc
Mar 2 at 21:02, by Arda Xi
Strategy for handling the oddities that spew out of a fountain upon dipping http://ur.ly/FuEO #strategy
 
@Gnome Even if it took only 5 minutes to render each frame (which is way too short) it'd take 937 days to render.
 
It's a good assumption that we posted tweets here when Twitter screwed up :)
 
@badp The first one there was cleaned up before, the other two didn't seem to get significant changes.
 
Haha, yeah, whoops... what MX records?!
 
@RonanForman Not with a render farm... trust me...
 
7:52 PM
When did I post that?
 
I know what I'm talking about.
 
I'll use the search to find the good examples, though
 
@GraceNote The problem is that there wasn't much to clean up at the time I'm afraid, those tags were okay.
Okay, perhaps the October exmples aren't
 
It would likely take a few weeks to render.
Depending on the size of their render farm.
Probably less, actually.
Few days.
Of solid rendering.
 
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Q: Is it common to die at work?

Michael Martin-SmuckerI downloaded The Sims 3 for my Android phone, and I've played through almost 2 Sim weeks with my character. My sim works Monday-Friday, and without fail, he will die every other day at work. If he survived work yesterday, he will die today. Period. He's been killed by everything from escaped re...

 
7:53 PM
 
@ArdaXi ?
 
You'z trollin
nvm
 
Am not.
 
uh, so Jamestown is 5 levels? That's probably... underwhelming given the reviews
even though they're definitely pretty levels.
 
@Gnome Okay the first toystory took about that long.
 
7:55 PM
Also no one on my friend list has posted scores yet.
 
@badp A standard shmup is 4-6 levels. Not surprising.
 
@RonanForman From start to finish, yes. Including casting, recording, storyboarding, modelling, texturing, animating, rendering and editing.
 
@GraceNote DNS will be fixed on my domain in the next few hours, so mail to it will start working again. Thanks to you and Abby for letting me know something was wrong.
 
@GraceNote Did you see that game I posted a little while ago?
 
I did
@Powerlord Gratitude transferred. You're welcome. ♪
 
7:57 PM
Or at least I hope it'll be fixed in the next few hours.
stabs DynDNS for absorbing the company I used to use for DNS and then canceling their free DNS
 
@RonanForman Most movies don't take anywhere near that long.
 
I wasn't suggesting they did.
 
you can't mix cpu time and elapsed time
 
Gah, I'm down to $20 in my paypal, from the $60 I had after my reimbursement.
I really need to cut back.
 
@GraceNote Oh? I wouldn't have guessed
 
8:00 PM
if 100 machines work for 100 hours, that's 10k machine hours done in 100 wall clock hours
 
I was going to transfer most of it back to my bank account.
@DavidB It's called a Render Farm.
 
if you want to know the time it takes to render a movie, you have to add up the time taken by each machine
if it took 3 weeks for 50 machines to render the movie, then it took 3 years total cpu time
 
@badp It usually only takes 2 levels to eat up all your quarters
 
Woah, Kongregate's game ratings are integrated into Google's search.
 
Fair warning to everybody who has yet to start playing Jamestown:
"To unlock level 5 you must win levels 1-4 at Legendary"
 
8:07 PM
@Ullallulloo Really? Awesome!
 
I've only been playing at Difficult :/
(the scale is Normal, Difficult, Legendary, Divine, Judgement)
Also: unlock the Gunner ASAP. It is awesome.
 
oh, is jamestown a shmup? I thought I'd heard of it before, now the pieces are falling together in my brains.
 
@Powerlord Do I want the original or the new music for Cave Story?
 
gotta love GOG, Playing Dungeon Keeper 2 now.
 
@badp No idea.
I've only played the original version of Cave Story, not +
 
8:18 PM
@badp That's not too bad
I can't remember where I stopped on the diff ramp
@badp Dark Sector on Divine is where I stopped
Just had a lotta trouble getting through it
 
insert coin
har har
I shot my kitten in the face though.
The game wasn't bad either.
 
insert coin
 
we're inserting coins again?
 
@GraceNote you guys (or Abby Miller at least) are getting pushy about TOR it seems
 
@NickT You can always say no if you just don't want it. ♪
 
8:30 PM
You're trying to pass out TOR for the grant?
Doesn't it need a subscription?
 
How's the grant work; does the 2 games/yr end at 2011 or what? I'd probably play it, but it's not the most interesting game I see in the near future (e.g. Diablo III)
 
still no TOR early email!
 
@GraceNote trying to figure out if it's economical for you guys (balancing my moochiness vs. usefulness)
 
Words cannot describe how awesome this is:
A Zelda one:
 
@NickT What's going on?
@GnomeSlice Yes. First 30 days are free with purchase, like most MMOs.
 
8:34 PM
@Wipqozn Ozone inhalation hazard
 
You've never seen a Faraday Cage?
 
@GnomeSlice I've been in one of those, they're neat
 
btw, for those that didn't see it, Jeff made a post about denying us game tags:
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A: Make a special tag class for "game tags".

Jeff Atwood Right now the most popular tag is used as the first word in question page title. This leads to questions such as "pc - how do I kill the orc chief" rather than "orchunter-3 - how do I kill the orc chief". The latter is more informative and much more Googlable. To ameliorate this issue, the f...

 
I can no longer count the times I've disagreed with Jeff in that single post on one hand.
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Using two tags is not even a solution.
> And if you can't be bothered to ask the second question about the game in a six month period either, I ask again: does that game really matter?
Yes, it does.
> Realistically, the site is, and should be, dominated by popular games.
No it shouldn't.
> I am sympathetic to the idea that a new user wants to ask about some obscure game, but realistically ... how often does that happen? Most people are playing popular games and current games, by definition. It's the nature of the business.
 
8:39 PM
@ArdaXi WOW.
 
No you're not, and it happens often enough. Look at the most popular question.
 
I agree with badp's answer.
@ArdaXi Which is... uh....
 
Also, it seems he went from "game tags are bad hurr" to "any tags but game tags are bad durr".
 
@GnomeSlice By views, it's an Angry Birds question because Joel shared it, excluding that, it's a Skyrim one. By votes, it's a Nethack one.
 
Right, I meant by votes.
 
8:43 PM
I did my best once upon a time to figure out tags on this site. I think barring any developer support, we're just stuck dealing. It's a system that doesn't fit its use case.
 
@Ullallulloo Either way still makes the same point
@NickT Do you think you'll be able to ask lots of nice questions for TOR? You could always turn it down for now if you're, say, more interested in ensuring you do get a slot for Diablo 3 or so.
 
@GraceNote I could ask a bunch of questions; I just don't know if I'd be downright ineligible
 
Take your time in decision, then. ♪
 
So we're back to only using game tags again, or? Still seems to be the solution with the least drawbacks.
 
What happens to the folks who put in for Diablo III with the brant grants, @GraceNote?
 
8:53 PM
No podcast this week everyone.
in SE Podcast Live Chat, yesterday, by Alex Miller
room topic changed to SE Podcast Live Chat: We're on vacation until 2012 - see you then! (no tags)
 
@RavenDreamer We don't have Brant Grants.
 
ohsnowman
 
Where's Grant Brant then?
Wait... ooh, I get it.
 
Brett.
#$*#.
Brett?
I've confused myself.
 
If you mean the Fall Gaming Grant, that has been and remains parallel to the Cyclic No-One-Applies Gaming Stack Exchange Promotional Grants that I run, and the Targetted Everyone-Wins Gaming Promotional Grants that Abby runs.
 
8:57 PM
@FallenAngelEyes Would you be willing to still play against Joseph Kern in the tournament? He was gone for a while so he thought he was kicked.
 
So, they should still be in registration with Diablo 3. Unless somehow between now and the release, you fall off the face of the planet, suffer the black plague, or otherwise are deemed unfit to perform the duties. I get all extra copies in that case.
 
I mean, technically he passed the three day limit, but if you're willing, that'd be great.
 
@GraceNote Perks of the trade. I suppose that's fair.
 
@GnomeSlice Yeah that's fine
 

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