The Bridge

Rapitor

3:00 PM

my argument was because the "actual" harvest moon by natsume was junk

has 3D printing gone too far?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@MadScientist Word is departying/repartying NPCs fixes the stacking bug

Yuuki

@Rapitor Just tell him that the Harvest Moon that Natsume is basically a cash grab to hold on to their license to the "Harvest Moon" name.

Kevin van der Velden

@Rapitor what is that and why is it labeled cheese?

Rapitor

@Yuuki thats pretty much what i said

@KevinvanderVelden 'murican spray cheese

Kevin van der Velden

@Rapitor why are the 'muricans misusing the word cheese?

LessPop_MoreFizz

3:05 PM

Yuuki

@Rapitor Also, tell him that the series is ported from Japan, where it's called Bokujo Monogatari. And guess what? Story of Seasons is Bokujo Monogatari: Tsunagaru Shin Tenchi, so it does have the Harvest Moon name. Where it matters.

Rapitor

after you ignore the fact that you are eating aerosol... it doesn't taste too bad.

@Yuuki pretty much.

Kevin van der Velden

@Rapitor Lies

Yuuki

@Rapitor If you ignore the fact that you are eating aerosol, you are ignoring all of it.

Kevin van der Velden

@Yuuki To be fair, when something comes along in a can called "easy cheese" ignoring it is the best course of action

Rapitor

3:07 PM

@KevinvanderVelden unless you are really hungry and make bad decisions when hungry

Kevin van der Velden

@Rapitor no.

No exceptions

You go to the god damn store and get some god damn actual cheese

None of that american plastic they sell as cheese

Powerlord

Meetings. The boring frontier.

Matt Giltaji

@LessPop_MoreFizz #winning

LessPop_MoreFizz

We need more PoE answer voters so I can get some of that sweet, sweet, FGITW rep before all you people show up with annotated screenshots while I'm nominally working and can just type out a quick text only answer from memory.

Matt Giltaji

@LessPop_MoreFizz haha

Rapitor

3:10 PM

@KevinvanderVelden actual cheese is god damn expensive

Kevin van der Velden

@Rapitor Only in horrible places where they sell plastic as cheese

Frank

Does the mod that declined the flag on this post want to weigh in on how that's NOT a link only answer?

Matt Giltaji

@LessPop_MoreFizz actually, i was in your position last friday, except you were posting screencaps while i was trying to find references on the wiki

Frank

Or, sidenote, if it can get some more NaA flags for deletion, that would be good.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Frank Downvote, don't flag.

NB: I did not decline this flag.

Frank

3:12 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz That's...literally what flagging is for.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Frank Not an answer is for flagging things that don't answer the question. The link clearly answers the question, and the content of the link is clearly marked and explained. It's not just a bare URL going to whoknowswhatdarkcorneroftheinternet.

Frank

@LessPop_MoreFizz In the best case, it also pushes the post into the Low Quality queue, where have a deletion reason for exactly that.

Kevin van der Velden

Yeah, link only is a delete reason right?

Frank

Yep.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@KevinvanderVelden For bare URLs with no context.

This is not that.

Frank

3:15 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz That's not what the canned text says.

Kevin van der Velden

Eeh I'd agree, though if the other answer wasn't there as context I'd say it's link only

As in "Here's a detailed guide! link" is a bare url with no context

Frank

Sadly, there's no access to that canned text without a Low Quality post, so there's no way for me to copy it without trolling through several pages of reviews until I find one.

Mad Scientist

@LessPop_MoreFizz Looks like I'm not really affected, I justed dumped a lot of items on Eder and Defender mode itself is pretty good.

Flyk

@Frank looks like link only to me, should be converted into a comment imo

Kevin van der Velden

Oooh awesome, new form of ice! Square ice (it literally forms rectangles)!

Frank

3:19 PM

@Flyk That was my opinion. Which is why the declined flag confused me.

Powerlord

Not ice-9?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Frank I mean, personally, I'd mark helpful and down vote and not delete, so I can't speak for the other mod.

Kevin van der Velden

@Powerlord nope, 2d ice. Graphene is pretty awesome

"The team calculated that the graphene sheets must be exerting more than 10,000 times atmospheric pressure to flatten water in this way"

Frank

I ran into it again today, was going to flag it, turns out, I already have. And then went through the Low Quality queue, seeing if it was a case of users going, "Meh, link-only is fine", and then find out it was mod declined.

LessPop_MoreFizz

But you asked why it was declined, so I tried to explain why I might.

Wipqozn

3:20 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz It may have been declined since @Frank has 20k+ rep, can cast delete votes himself. aka no mod needed.

Flyk

@LessPop_MoreFizz how would you react to an "other" flag with the message "this should be a comment"?

Frank

@Wipqozn Uh, no.

I don't have 20K rep.

If I did, I would just VTD.

Wipqozn

@Frank are you sure?

Kevin van der Velden

16,874

So close

Wipqozn

damn, you don't

Flyk

3:21 PM

@Wipqozn still, this doesn't allow us to convert it into a comment

Kevin van der Velden

Ish

Wipqozn

I coudl have sworn you did.

Man, @Frank, setp up your game

Frank

Yep. Pretty sure.

Flyk

@Frank only 15 gold badges?

Kevin van der Velden

Oh hey, I just realized I have the "turtle-ify the turtle" script here

@WIPQALOT SHALL NEVER DIE

Wipqozn

3:22 PM

@Flyk It doesn't, but in that case a "mod attention" flag would be what you want to use, NAA

Frank

@Flyk I'm not a badge hunter.

Wipqozn

"Mod Attention" is what you should be using if you want something turned into a comment.

Frank

I have two Reversals on Meta, though!

Wipqozn

@Frank haxors

Flyk

@Wipqozn but I think Frank's point is, the NAA text says "... or should be a comment"

Frank

3:23 PM

Our process for link only answers is kind of inconsistent.

It'd be nice to have a proper idea of how to go about it.

Wipqozn

@Flyk Yeah, I can see that, but I still tihnk mod attention is the better choice. NAA can be deleted without mods seeing them.

Flyk

NAA is a perfectly valid flag to use if you want it converting into a comment, just because of the flag text - using an other flag and typing in your intentions would clarify any confusion, though

Wipqozn

either way, not abig deal... the mod could just disagree that it's link only, or that it needs deletion.

Frank

Mostly, I just flag it to push it into the Low Quality queue, and let other users handle it from there.

(Which actually prevents me from seeing that post in the queue, since I'm the one that flagged it)

Wipqozn

@Flyk You can use it, but it's not a good choice, because it can be removed before mods even see it, therefore no comment conversion.

Frank

3:25 PM

Bothering mods for low quality answers isn't really the right process; we have the review queues for a reason.

Flyk

@Wipqozn sure, I would normally other flag with "this should be a comment" if I feel it's worth preserving

Unionhawk

Iirc, NAA goes to the low quality queue too

Kevin van der Velden

Aah always fun "Oh hey, we wanna demo this part of the product next week." ".... Okay, can I get some specs for it?"

Unionhawk

Where it will be very likely deleted. If you think a thing should be a comment, strongly, then mods have to do that anyway.

Frank

@Unionhawk It does.

Flyk

3:39 PM

@Frank are you saying I'm a badge hunter? :o

Frank

@Flyk Yes.

Flyk

@Frank I can't control how many people view my questions! :(

Frank

Or at least, you were. Whether you are now or not, I have no idea.

Unionhawk

Wow, now look what you've done

I believe the proper term is "hat hunter", technically

Flyk

@Unionhawk I'm definitely still a hat hunter, it's like the only time I'm ever really active anymore

MadMAxJr

3:41 PM

They need to implement a double-secret hat, randomly award it to one user, and not reveal there's no way to earn it.

Unionhawk

@MadMAxJr if only to drive @Flyk insane

That would be hilarious

Kevin van der Velden

They should call it "Kalina's Hat"

Frank

(that she can never have)

Flyk

that's just cruel

Kevin van der Velden

(yes, that is the beauty of it)

Unionhawk

3:43 PM

Yup

Flyk

you probably set fire to kittens in your spare time

MadMAxJr

Time Machine to-do list: 1 - Kill Hitler. 2 - Stop Robin Walker from developing TF2 hats. 3 - Get a piece of the /first/ cake.

Frank

@Flyk My cat is insane enough without fire.

Unionhawk

I mean I would, but the University already does that, so I have no access to kittens or fire

MadMAxJr

You just reminded me to check the exploding kittens kickstarter.

Flyk

3:45 PM

I finally got all of my Elite Dangerous goodies

Ashley Nunn

Good morning, Bridge. Is it still morning?

Flyk

several months after I quit playing Elite Dangerous

MadMAxJr

Hi Ashley.

Flyk

@AshleyNunn it's always morning someplace!

MadMAxJr

It's morning for an hour more here.

Unionhawk

3:46 PM

@AshleyNunn for 15 minutes in this time zone even

Frank

@AshleyNunn Yep. Still morning here.

Ashley Nunn

@Unionhawk Heck yes

Kevin van der Velden

@AshleyNunn It's always morning in Universal Greeting Time

Also always evening

Unionhawk

Also the greeting morning is defined by whenever one enters the room

And or wakes up

MadMAxJr

Schrodingers Morning. It's always night unless you flick open the blinds to check, which changes the state of time.

6

MBraedley

3:47 PM

@AshleyNunn It isn't here, but is in most parts of North America.

Unionhawk

If I awaken at 2pm, I am within my rights to say good morning (and some pedant will correct me)

Flyk

@Unionhawk same for 3pm, 4pm, 5pm, 6pm, etc

Kevin van der Velden

@Unionhawk point them to UGT and all will be good

Unionhawk

@Flyk my sleep schedule isn't that crazy

Private Pansy

@AshleyNunn It will be morning here in 12 minute's time

Which means I should probably go to sleep

Flyk

3:49 PM

@Unionhawk I don't have a "schedule", sleep occurs when there is enough time between now and the next time I have to do, I'm tired, and there's a bed available

Kevin van der Velden

@Flyk That's a pretty good system for sleeping I think

MadMAxJr

Note to self, go back in time, revise time-machine plan.

Unionhawk

Yeah, well, I have classes and stuff

It's the worst

Powerlord

I thought "morning" was the time between like 4am and the time I wish I could wake up every day.

Kevin van der Velden

@MadMAxJr what'll the new plan be? Prevent the railroads from being invented (and by effect preventing timezones from being invented?)

Flyk

3:50 PM

dependent on how tired, the definition of "bed" becomes broader

after 72 hours it becomes more like "ah, floor looks comfy"

Kevin van der Velden

@Flyk "Bed, that comfy chair, that rock next to the road"

Powerlord

I'm finding Town of Salem more addicting than it should be.

Jason Berkan

@Flyk I found one of my kids asleep on the hardwood floor last night. That's a pretty broad definition of bed, IMO.

Powerlord

I played it until like 2 hours before I had to wake up for work.

MadMAxJr

@KevinvanderVelden Heavens no, my current employer is a railroad.

Kevin van der Velden

3:51 PM

Also @Flyk LAN LAN LAN LAN LAN, I don't know why I'm bothering you with it expect that we once had a lan party at the same time and for some unknown reason I remembered that

Brains are weird.

Jason Berkan

@Powerlord It is surprisingly fun. I wish a) I had more time to play it and b) fewer people cheated (though that may be better now than last month).

Flyk

@KevinvanderVelden no problem passing out on the grass outside the last one I went to

Powerlord

@JasonBerkan Well, last night I had a game where, despite the GF being afk for part of the round (and eventually dropping from game), mafia won.

Kevin van der Velden

@Flyk this time I've booked a hotel (it was like, 10 euros extra because of some combo deal)

Powerlord

...alongside 2 execs, 1 witch, and an Amnesiac turned Blackmailer.

Flyk

3:53 PM

@KevinvanderVelden mmh, the last time I booked a hotel and spent 3 hours in it, was a waste

Kevin van der Velden

@Flyk first time for everything =p

Flyk

I can usually survive a 72 hour period without sleep

Powerlord

Then again, I was Consig turned Mafioso (despite the game not telling me that I changed)

Kevin van der Velden

@Flyk I try to remember at least some of the lan party

Jason Berkan

@Powerlord All any is pretty crazy. I stuck to the normal game mode most of the time.

MBraedley

3:55 PM

@Flyk Yeah, but it's a well established fact that you're weird

Ashley Nunn

Woo, interview rescheduled :D

Powerlord

@JasonBerkan Ranked is interesting, too.

@AshleyNunn I assume this is a good thing.

Ashley Nunn

@Powerlord yes

I am jobless, of course it is a good thing

Kevin van der Velden

Smiley faces like :D are usually indicative of a good thing

Jason Berkan

@Powerlord Right. They added that when I stopped playing. I should start again, since there should be less people messing up the game in ranked.

Kevin van der Velden

3:55 PM

So yeah!

Powerlord

@JasonBerkan Well, although ranked is in the game, the actual ELO system won't be until next patch.

Flyk

@MBraedley established? Where?

Powerlord

Of course, at the same time, the Any role is being removed from Ranked and being replaced with Random Neutral.

(or at least I think it's Random Neutral)

So... that Any role that sometimes ends up with 4 mafia or 8 town? Not any more!

Jason Berkan

@Powerlord I really want them to replace Framer with Random Mafia in regular games.

Powerlord

@JasonBerkan Well, the other thing about Ranked is the Jailor is the only guaranteed role.

Wait, no, GF is guaranteed

1 Jailor, 2 Town Protective, 2 Town Support, 2 Town Investigative, 1 Town Killing, GodFather, 1 Mafia Support, 1 Random Mafia, 1 Neutral Killing, 1 Neutral Evil, 1 Neutral Benign, and 1 Any.

Unionhawk

4:01 PM

7 mins ago, by Flyk

I can usually survive a 72 hour period without sleep

Jason Berkan

@Powerlord That actually looks fun to play.

Powerlord

@JasonBerkan Developers are seeing Town win too often, which is why Any is going to Random Neutral.

They think that will balance it a bit.

MBraedley

@Flyk chat.stackexchange.com/…

Powerlord

There's also an "unofficial" game mode called Rainbow that may be added.

MadMAxJr

... The internet has /Ranked/ witch hunts?

Jason Berkan

4:04 PM

@Powerlord Makes sense. I found that when the town players understood their roles and worked together, they were hard to defeat.

Unionhawk

@MBraedley 1104 messages mentioning fire.

Powerlord

Rainbow is 2 Random Town, 2 Random Mafia, 2 Arsonist, 2 Serial Killer, 2 Survivor, 2 Witch, 1 Werewolf, and... um... I forgot what the last color is

Which sounds like pure chaos.

Hmm, no, I must have numbers wrong as Executioners and Jesters are also present

Unionhawk

So I got a reply regarding the stupid gif filled page of stuff, basically to the effect of "immigration needs reform", not "you're right, that is stupid and unprofessional"

Which tells me it was probably a form.

Powerlord

Oh, Rainbow is Godfather, Mafioso, 2 Arsonist, 2 Survivor, Jailor, Veteran, Transporter/Vigilante, 2 Amnesiac, 2 Serial Killer, and 2 Witch.

Which I guess makes sense... Red Orange Yellow Green Blue Indigo Violet

Jason Berkan

Forecast is for 19C tomorrow. Good-bye snow.

MadMAxJr

4:15 PM

It got really warm here last night. If this keeps up I may have to ship the surplus warm to Canada. It works that way, right?

Ashley Nunn

@MadMAxJr I'll take it

Wipqozn

@JasonBerkan our high for tomorrow is 6 degrees, with a low of -3.

MadMAxJr

Now we only stock it in Fahrenheit, you'll need to convert it to Celsius locally.

Jason Berkan

@Wipqozn That is our normal temp range for this time of the year.

Lazers

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Q: Minecraft - Magic Launcher - Optifine doesn't do anything?

I've been trying to get Minecraft's Magic Launcher to work with OptiFine, which I have done many times before. But not on this particular computer. I'm running Minecraft 1.8 and OptiFine HD U D2, the latest as of this date. Anyway, I start the default launcher and choose the OptiFine profile. W...

Wipqozn

4:20 PM

@JasonBerkan You kids and your outliers.

MBraedley

@JasonBerkan That's chilly for us this time of year. It rarely dips below freezing near the beginning of April.

Ashley Nunn

@Wipqozn Mine's 3/-5

Wipqozn

@MBraedley Although it's not unheard of to get snow. Not common, but it's happened.

MBraedley

@Wipqozn I do not enjoy snow after my birthday. I ignore it as best I can.

Unionhawk

Today's local temperature: 14/8 (going to 22/13 by Thursday)

Thank you to thefuckingweatherdotcom for having a one-click convert this to something the canadians understand button

Jason Berkan

4:23 PM

@Unionhawk Something the world understands. :P

Powerlord

TOWN OF SALEM | Original Rap

►

Unionhawk

{The United States} ⊂ {The World}

Jason Berkan

Don't get mathematical with me.

Unionhawk

Hey, you didn't specify "rest of the world"

That is {The World and not The United States}

Jason Berkan

The Internet. Last refuge of the pedantic.

Unionhawk

4:26 PM

Only refuge

I'm in a probability class, set theory has been melted into my brain

Powerlord

Hmm, so Lois McMaster Bujold's next book, Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen, is going to be about Cordelia Vorkosigan rather than Miles.

murgatroid99

@Unionhawk This almost-correct set theory notation makes me uncomfortable

Unionhawk

It's a painful teaching method

Powerlord

I wonder when it will take place in the timeline.

Rapitor

hm the nintendo shop says Story of Seasons is 4 player. I wonder what that is

Matt Giltaji

4:27 PM

@Unionhawk i've had the airborne toxic event songs stuck in my head since saturday night and i blame you for this (and @Wipqozn as well, of course)

Lazers

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Q: Am i playing badly or am i underleveled? -Pillars of eternity

Spoilers ahead, few hours into game! In game playing for 17 days, slain 259 enemies. Party all level 5. I've gotten to Endless paths of old Nua level 5 and i cant beat this dragon no matter how hard i try. Am i supposed to beat him now or should i pay him a visit later?

pillars-of-eternity

0

Q: Can You use commands in Minecraft pe v0.7.1

Can you use commands in Minecraft PE v0.7.1? I've seen people do it but I don't seem to be able to. Do I have to have a specific device like an iPhone? I currently have an android tablet with: Android 4.5 Core duo processors

minecraft

Unionhawk

@murgatroid99 Even better? I don't know. This is basically correct from what I've been taught, for the purposes of what I've been taught

Matt Giltaji

@Powerlord i read the first one and enjoyed it. i read another one and got super lost, timeline wise

Yuuki

Trevor Noah to ~~replace~~ succeed Jon Stewart for The Daily Show.

Powerlord

Aw.

murgatroid99

4:28 PM

@Unionhawk It says "The set containing the object 'The United States' is a subset of the set containing the object 'The World'", which, strictly speaking, isn't true

Powerlord

I was holding out for John Oliver.

Unionhawk

I see.

Jason Berkan

@MattGiltaji The books do jump around. I read them in publication order.

Matt Giltaji

@JasonBerkan i like her style, so i may get back to reading the whole series, eventually

Powerlord

@JasonBerkan It's weird because the Omnibus editions started out doing the order events took place, then started doing weird groupings.

Jason Berkan

4:30 PM

@MattGiltaji The Vorkosigan series is one that I loved from the moment I read the first book.

murgatroid99

@Unionhawk I would write it more like {The United States} ⊂ The World or The United States ϵ The World

Wipqozn

@Yuuki oh man. I should go check out /r/subredditdrama, because I bet there will be whole bunch of it!

Unionhawk

At this point, it's way past 2 minutes, so I actually can't care. The joke is done.

Powerlord

To date, Memory has never appeared in an Omnibus.

Ashley Nunn

@Rapitor "In Story of Seasons, traditional farm-building mechanics are combined with all-new multiplayer and StreetPass connectivity, granting players the ability to tour one another’s farms, cultivate crops together and even exchange gifts."

That's really all the detail I can find

Jason Berkan

4:32 PM

@Powerlord I had to dig a bit to find an illegal copy of that one. And I guess I read that one out of publication order. It was one of the last things I read.

Powerlord

It's a shame as Memory sets up all the books after it.

Jason Berkan

Yes. I remember being quite confused as to why Miles was an Auditor.

Unionhawk

gfd

Rapitor

@AshleyNunn neat.

Unionhawk

Motion for The Bridge to formally denounce the state of Indiana and, by extension, @Sterno

Matt Giltaji

4:43 PM

@Unionhawk at least some companies are boycotting in response

Powerlord

I wonder if my friend Anna hates Story of Seasons or if she'll play it anyway.

Unionhawk

I'm for reals putting that motion up at my next fraternity meeting (since we have been big proponents of these things in a scouting context, and we were big supporters of the membership policy changes)

Flyk

@MBraedley fine

what should I be making in Pillars of Eternity?

Powerlord

(she works for a company that works for Natsume)

Matt Giltaji

@Flyk do you want to tank or deal damage?

Flyk

4:45 PM

destroy everything

Yuuki

@Powerlord If she likes Harvest Moon, she'd probably play it. It's the actual Harvest Moon game.

Whereas Lost Valley is a license grab.

Ashley Nunn

I am kinda excited for it - it seems to be a lot more of the bits I like, and less of hte bits I don't

Flyk

with fire, preferably

Powerlord

@Yuuki Right, but she's one of the PR people for the Harvest Moon series...

Wipqozn

@Unionhawk Damn it @Sterno, how did you let this happen?

Ashley Nunn

4:46 PM

@Powerlord and? COngrats for her?

Matt Giltaji

@Flyk Wizard gets fireball and all the other firey type spells

Ashley Nunn

I mean I guess she might be tired of the thing

I dunno

Matt Giltaji

might will make your spells stronger, int will give you more aoe

so you definitely want to max those

Rapitor

@Powerlord she would probably not like natsume then because she has to promote that

Ashley Nunn

This game has me waiting for a bird to appear so I can make it poop so I can collect 50 of said poops to make a hat out of them

2

What am I doing with my life

2

Matt Giltaji

4:49 PM

@AshleyNunn what a shitty collection task

Unionhawk

Making a poop hat?

Yuuki

@AshleyNunn Playing a game that has you waiting for a bird to poop on your head to make a hat.

Ashley Nunn

Suddenly it all makes sense, thanks guys ;)

Unionhawk

@MattGiltaji I refuse to acknowledge your terrible joke with a gtfo, and as such, I am not.

wait, SHIT

Ashley Nunn

@Unionhawk yes, that is the current topic at hand

Powerlord

4:51 PM

@AshleyNunn ...what game was this?

Clearly you stand in front of your house and accuse people of being in the Mafia instead.

Ashley Nunn

@Powerlord Happy Street. It's my current F2P time killer. That and Adventure Xpress.

Powerlord

Granted, Town of Salem doesn't have a mobile version. Not a surprise since it's a Flash game.

Unionhawk

@AshleyNunn you win this time...

Ashley Nunn

The morphology of reaction GIFs, or why I love JSTOR Daily

Frank

Man. Get fired on Friday, get hired on Monday, with a small increase. I like that timeline.

Matt Giltaji

4:57 PM

@Frank same company or different?

Wipqozn

@Frank Accepted the offer at that company that your old company outsourced your job to?

Frank

@MattGiltaji The company my department got outsourced to.

I was expecting it.

Matt Giltaji

@Frank good thing you got that pay increase

Frank

@Wipqozn It's not quite as high as I was wanted, but I'm willing to let that go as a sign of goodwill.

Matt Giltaji

but kind of strange nonetheless

so when are you moving to india? :p

Frank

4:59 PM

@MattGiltaji It's the least I deserved, after the amount of busting ass I did this last year.

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