The Bridge

fredley

14:00

Sleep, foodx5, eat, cartx5?

Lazers

0

Q: Why do I need to sleep?

I can see why I need to gather food and wood, as well as eat, but why do I need to sleep? Does Zen do anything? Do bad things happen if I stop sleeping?

mmo-incremental

fredley

Oh wait, sleep only gives you 10 zen? pffffffffft

Rapitor

@fredley collecting food gives 50 at a time, you really only need to do it twice to get 100 (which is how much you eat)

Origami Robot

fredley

sleepx4, gatherx2,eat,cartx5?

Well done @Rapitor, you won by 12 seconds

Rapitor

14:04

lol

Koviko

fredley

Rapitor

hm something happened somewhere and i got 50 extra food.

Koviko

Until you get a handcart, you will have wasted energy, so get that ASAP.

Until you have a shelter, you will need to spend 4 turns on sleep, so until you get it, you'll have to manually set your schedule to stay efficient

After you get it, you'll be able to set it to idle.

Rapitor

sleeping under the stars is also a painful waste of time.

Koviko

14:08

Yeah, spend your zen down to 0 as fast as you can

Having full zen is wasted zen.

Origami Robot

Oops, I miss-clicked on my schedule :(

Arperum

whoop. Client issue fixed. By changing the accidental sqlinjection causing username. (as in FirstnameLastnameWithA'InIt) And fuck it that I fix that code, that's some super old legacy pre .net VB monstrosity. Also: no time.

Koviko

@OrigamiRobot Hopefully, you don't have OCD-like tendencies

Rapitor

will be able to upgrade shelter after this cycle

Koviko

@Rapitor Likewise. I'm more excited about it than I think I should be.

It's probably just going to make me able to idle more.

Origami Robot

14:10

@Koviko It's not a big deal. 8 should be eat instead of sleep

Unionhawk

...

Arperum

@Unionhawk WHo are you "..."ing?

Unionhawk

1 hour ago, by Rapitor

incremental MMO

Also, the entire Bridge

Koviko

I think he's fed up with the entire room's incrementalling.

Unionhawk

Mostly the second one

Rapitor

14:11

@Unionhawk :D

Origami Robot

@Unionhawk One of us! One of us!

Unionhawk

Nope.

Rapitor

alright so i got the hut, but my schedule didnt update or anything. hm...

Koviko

@Unionhawk cmondoit

Unionhawk

Already looks dumb.

fredley

14:12

@Unionhawk much wenlock, wow

Koviko

@Rapitor d'aw. I have to wait to eat my food before I get my hut. So... close...

Origami Robot

I don't see the benefit of upgrading.

fredley

@Koviko I'm 90 seconds from hut

Koviko

@OrigamiRobot What else is there to spend wood on?

I hope it gives me a better sleep.

fredley

@Koviko Things that help you get wood faster. Eventually you'll run out of things, then you've beaten the game

Origami Robot

14:13

I don't need better sleep.

Koviko

Though, if it makes my sleep 30 zen then grrr

fredley

@Koviko Divisors of 100 pls

Origami Robot

Better sleep wouldn't really let me make a better schedule.

Koviko

@OrigamiRobot If it was double, it would.

Origami Robot

Not really.

What would I do with the 2 extra time slots?

Unionhawk

14:15

@fredley 1, 2, 4, 5, 10, 20, 25, 50, 100 (YES THAT'S RIGHT)

Koviko

@OrigamiRobot For efficiency's sake, you'd update them every 10 minutes

But yeah, that takes away the idling

Maybe take the time to store up extra food for when we inevitably need to spend it on something

fredley

@Unionhawk PRIME DIVISORS OF 100 PLZ

Origami Robot

That takes away the whole point of the scedule

Koviko

There's no ay my hut holds 1100 food and I won't need to spend it

Rapitor

@Koviko yep, hut raises sleep to 30. and cooking food is dumb too -50 food, +100 energy, -2 wood

Unionhawk

14:16

@fredley 2, 5

Koviko

@Rapitor Maybe I need to refresh. I got no improved sleep option.

Origami Robot

-2 wood? fuck that

Koviko

ANd.. wtf.. It told me I just slept under the stars.

Rapitor

yeah i had to refresh

fredley

WHY DOES MY SHELTER NOT OCCLUDE THE STARS?

Koviko

14:17

@fredley It does. It's a separate option.

You are choosing to sleep on the porch.

Brant

BECAUSE THE LORD SEES YOU TOUCHING YOURSELF AT NIGHT

fredley

@Koviko UGH

WHY WOULD I EVEN DO THAT

Koviko

lol

Unionhawk

REASONS

Matt Эллен

To sleep under the stars

Koviko

14:18

-2 wood

-2 WOOD?!

Matt Эллен

2 wouldn't

Koviko

30 zen... I need to do math, now.

Rapitor

hm, the upgrade tree is starting... can either upgrade to stable or cabin next

Koviko

I imagine we can't sleep in the stable.

Matt Эллен

You can only stay in the stable if you're going to give birth to Jesus

Unionhawk

14:20

@fredley hand up

Rapitor

and cabin goes to workshop or store.

Origami Robot

What's the wood cap with a hut?

Rapitor

1100

Lazers

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Q: What are some intimidation techniques for the Pyro?

As a Pyro, I'm confident ambushing weak classes, like Scouts, Engineers, and Snipers, but with tough classes like Soldiers, Heavies, and fellow Pyros, I know, upon ambushing them, that I'm no more likely to kill them than they are to kill me. So, I'm looking for some intimidation tactics, which ...

team-fortress-2 tf2-pyro

Rapitor

oh, oh shit. i need to build another structure anyway as the next upgrade is 2k

Koviko

14:21

gah, how am I gonna idle with this.

The numbers don't match up. Something has to start accumulating, and it aint wood.

Origami Robot

@Rapitor Screw that, I'm just building 4 more shelters.

Koviko

We had 100 storage with zero shelters, so the shelter = 100 extra wood

And the hut = 1000 extra wood

Origami Robot

A shelter is 400 wood

Koviko

So 100 for 100 or 500 for 1000

Rapitor

shelter is +400

Koviko

14:23

Was it? Okay, nvm.

I must be thinking about the food

Origami Robot

Spending the 400 on more shelters gets me 2100 cap

Rapitor

hut is +1000

Koviko

THe game is getting my schedule all mesed up

It keeps telling me i'm trying to do shit I didn't schedule

That's going to get frustrating.

Unionhawk

Heh, yeah it is

Origami Robot

Building a hut doesn't get me wood faster without constant attention, so I deem it useless.

Rapitor

14:25

this friggin 30 zen on sleep is seriously throwing off my math

fredley

@Rapitor Not even once

Koviko

@Rapitor Yup. I think I need ot just let zen accumulate and say screw it.

Rapitor

@Koviko that's what im doing now basically.. just kept the same schedule as when I had shelter

Koviko

I can't actively incremental all day. I'll get fired.

Rapitor

but I know I could squeeze out more efficiency somewhere

Koviko

14:26

@Rapitor Maybe with an extra hour or two

Otherwise, you need to manually change the schedule daily.

fredley

@Koviko Look on the bright side, at least you'll have more time to incremental

Koviko

@fredley If they fired me, I'd be able to go home and get my SSD working. Excited to use it :)

fredley

@Koviko Just script it.

Userscript that runs every few mins, updates schedule according to amount of zen

Koviko

@fredley That's a good idea.

Origami Robot

You know what's better than messing up your perfect schedule? Not doing that. :P

Newly Opened Proposals for Entertainment

14:29

3

matematica

Proposed Q&A site for italian language people studying mathematics at all levels

Currently in definition.

fredley

@NewlyOpenedProposalsforEntertainment mate

Rapitor

it's terrible, but I guess it works ;\

wait, no it doesnt. not enough zen to loop.. eff

Lazers

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Q: Mulligan Strategy For Control Priest

I'm currently having a lot of success with my control priest. The one issue I'm having is during the mulligan phase when I draft 2 scenarios. Scenario 1: I draft a circle of healing against aggressive decks (warlock zoo, pally zoo, enrage warrior). Should I hard mulligan and look for an Auchenai...

hearthstone

Koviko

@Rapitor I'm just being content with grabbing excess zen with the expectation that I'll spend it all off on a sprint later on

And excess food

I'm sticking with the 5-wood 5-no-wood schedule

Rapitor

5

Koviko

14:41

@Rapitor lmao

Unionhawk

@OrigamiRobot is terrible at sportsball

5

"OH NO, YOU'RE UNDER ATTACK... /lazy"

Koviko

I was forced to sleep in hut one turn extra than i scheduled ._.

Why am I even scheduling >_<

Unionhawk

~~Florida~~ Detroit Man Strikes!

Rapitor

@Unionhawk florida man is just on vacation up north

Unionhawk

Right?

THAT'S TOTALLY SOMETHING FLORIDA MAN WOULD DO

Rapitor

14:52

completely on par with florida man

Origami Robot

Mark of shame

Unionhawk

15:10

So it's looking like my best flight deal is an overnight stopping in DFW. Awesome.

Actually, no, there's a non-overnight arriving at... 6:40...

At least I can do multi-airport itineraries. Woo rides to the airport \o/

Oh, wait, that flight is "Stay overnight in Dallas". I'm thinking no.

Bah

Powerlord

Overheard in the office: "Is that some sort of Wiccan bible?" "No, it's a history book."

Unionhawk

Ooo... 30 minute layover in Chicago is probably too tight huh

There we go, hour and a half is better

(welcome to episode 2 of @Uni narrates his travel planning)

Rapitor

ah, so stables increase wood collection.

Unionhawk

I'm about to jump on this option. It's the only one that doesn't arrive at 7 pm

Origami Robot

@Rapitor iNTERESTING.

What? Why were caps on?

Rapitor

15:20

cadbot

Lazers

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Q: What's the difference between an cabin and a stable?

I can upgrade my hut to either a cabin or a stable. What is the difference? Is there any way to see what the actual stat increases/new options will be from new buildings in advance of building them?

mmo-incremental

Origami Robot

not even

Chippies

@OrigamiRobot I'm assuming having 2 handcarts doesn't help you whatsoever, right?

Origami Robot

2 hours ago, by Origami Robot

The only thing building a 2nd Handcarft seems to do is waste 20 wood

Chippies

that's what I figured

fredley

15:27

Cooking food eats it for you right?

Koviko

@fredley Yup

Batophobia

$2500 for an amiibo

fredley

Koviko

Tim Stone

@Batophobia Imagine if you paid extra for your car because the factory forgot lugnuts

Koviko

15:29

Excess of 150 food per cycle

Loss of 10 zen per cycle

fredley

Loss of 10 zen is unacceptable

Koviko

I toss in an extra sleep every 10 cycles

And then revert

Origami Robot

Why are you stockpiling food?

Koviko

At least that's the plan when I hit 0

Lazers

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Q: Where do the different paths lead?

Near the beginning of the game, I can choose between the following three paths: Take the dusty path. Take the grassy path. Take the gravel path. Does it matter which I choose? Where does each one lead? Can I eventually come back and take a different path?

mmo-incremental

Koviko

15:30

So that later on, I can just do straight cook -> woodx5 for a few cycles

days*

Or spend the food if that's what the game wants me to do

fredley

This guy has the weirdest sleep cycles

Koviko

lol yeah

Unionhawk

@TimStone That's... not exactly the same thing

Koviko

Damnit, now you've got me seriously considering making the sleep more continous purely for less weirdness

fredley

Basically Uberman

Batophobia

15:32

@TimStone Rare Mint Condition 2014 AutoCar With Missing Ignition Factory Defect

Rapitor

fredley

Polyphasic sleep

Polyphasic sleep is the practice of sleeping multiple times in a 24-hour period—usually more than two, in contrast to biphasic sleep (twice per day) or monophasic sleep (once per day). The term was probably first used in the early 20th-century by psychologist J. S. Szymanski who observed daily fluctuations in activity patterns (Stampi 1992). It does not imply any particular sleep schedule. The circadian rhythm disorder known as irregular sleep-wake syndrome is an example of polyphasic sleep in humans. Polyphasic sleep is common in many animals, and is believed to be the ancestral sleep state for...

Origami Robot

You guys have gross looking schedules.

Unionhawk

Yeah, well you have a gross looking face

Rapitor

most efficient I can come up with... 114 wood per day

Koviko

15:33

@Unionhawk cash4told.com

Chippies

nothing wasted!

Koviko

@Rapitor I think eventually we get even better at wood

Origami Robot

Koviko

So far, we are awful at it

@Chippies Yeah, but no cooking yet

Batophobia

@Koviko I had to read this several times to figure out what it means

Koviko

15:34

lol

Origami Robot

Mine is the same as @Rapitor's, but prettier.

Rapitor

@Koviko stable increases wood rate

fredley

How do I get better at wood?

I feel like I should be able to get better at wood soon

Koviko

@Rapitor Oooh must get stable

Rapitor

from the reddit: Stables lets you collect 30 wood an hour, at the cost of 20 energy and 10 food.

fredley

15:35

gib stable

@Rapitor Stockpiling that food was a good idea

Koviko

@Rapitor I knew food would become a spendable resource!

The math is just gonna get more complex, though.

Rapitor

Cabin I'm guessing is just an increase in zen and cooking..

so stable is the way to go

Chippies

@Rapitor are you making the horses chop wood now?

fredley

All this needs now is the concept of switching out different schedules

Origami Robot

The horses pull the cart, obviously.

fredley

15:36

and a scheme by which you can program what causes the schedule to change

Koviko

@fredley That'd be great. Make a few schedules that you swap between to deal with excesses

fredley

Then it's basically a turing machine

Koviko

@OrigamiRobot That... makes sense.

fredley

Turing Machine Incremental...

Rapitor

oh that's interesting. dev says he's planning more multiplayer features.. like trading

Kevin van der Velden

15:37

@fredley incremental where you have to write incrementals and then get more points so you can write more incrementals

3

Chippies

@OrigamiRobot but then you'd need a bigger cart

I don't imagine the handcart is very big

Origami Robot

@Chippies No, it's just more trips per hour.

Chippies

@OrigamiRobot well that's just wasteful use of time

Koviko

Maybe you just toss 10 wood in the horse's mouth.

Chippies

and horse power

Koviko

15:38

@Chippies hehehe

Origami Robot

Now you're not making any sense.

SaintWacko

@Unionhawk Ugh, this. My cat keeps chewing on the damn tree

Chippies

@OrigamiRobot unless the trees are literally next to your house, you're probably spending more time going back and forth with the cart, than actually chopping wood

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk It kinda is, just someone would get that fixed instead of leaving the car on display. :P

Origami Robot

@Chippies You're already doing that.

Unionhawk

15:39

yesterday, by Unionhawk

Origami Robot

A horse lets you make 3 times as many trips in the same hour.

Unionhawk

There is no way that was yesterday

fredley

@SaintWacko Spray tree with peppermint?

Unionhawk

That was yesterday

fredley

What do cats hate?

Unionhawk

15:40

How do I not remember this?

Origami Robot

The obvious solution is to not get a tree.

fredley

Pick a different religion

Chippies

@OrigamiRobot I doubt a horse goes much faster through the woods with a cart than a human would

fredley

Problem solved

Wololo

Chippies

the benefit of a horse would be that it can pull more at once

Origami Robot

15:40

@Chippies You need to watch more Dirty Jobs.

Chippies

@OrigamiRobot What is that, some TV show?

Unionhawk

@Chippies is too cool for TV

Origami Robot

Of course, those were donkeys.

Chippies

@Unionhawk that is true

cable is a major waste of money

Koviko

It's taking forever to get 2000 wood

Unionhawk

15:42

@OrigamiRobot Donkeys are slower than horses even

Rapitor

@Koviko will take about 19 days

fredley

@Koviko Yeah. Time to idle

Origami Robot

@Unionhawk They don't need to run to be faster than people.

Matt Эллен

@Koviko sounds like it's hard for you to get wood

Chippies

@OrigamiRobot the benefit of an animal pulling carts is that they can pull more, not that they are faster

Koviko

15:43

I guess I need to figure out how much food I want before I do the wood-binge

@Chippies They also pull with less effort, which implies speed too.

Rapitor

but, being an "mmo" server based game. it's always running. and you can login from any device

Chippies

if a human can pull a cart of wood, a horse wouldn't be much faster pulling that same amount of wood

@Koviko unless you built a road in the forest, it's not gonna be fast much

Origami Robot

@Chippies I really don't understand how you're getting here

Koviko

@Rapitor Good thing about it being an MMO is that I don't have to manually move my save around. Bad thing is that there's server sync and lag issues.

Lazers

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Q: How do I get a permit for the Sirius system to make a delivery?

I picked up a delivery at Gorbachev Station to be delivered to Sirius, but I can't jump there as I don't have a permit. How do I get one for Sirius? Thanks!

elite-dangerous

Origami Robot

15:44

That's like saying "If a human can walk, a horse can't walk much faster"

3 mins ago, by Origami Robot

@Chippies You need to watch more Dirty Jobs.

Chippies

@OrigamiRobot the horse would have to run 3 times as fast as human can to move the wood 3 times more in an hour

Origami Robot

Are you running with a cart?

Chippies

for one, on a rough terrain, going that fast is probably going to get your wood spilt

Origami Robot

If I am slogging through a forest dragging a cart with my bare hands, a horse could easily pull that same cart 3 times faster than me.

It doesn't even have to try.

Chippies

@OrigamiRobot considering your energy consumption doesn't increase, neither do you

Origami Robot

15:48

Now I'm just not convinced @Chippies even knows what a horse is.

Chippies

are you implying that making the horse pull the cart uses as much human energy as pulling the cart (0)?

13 mins ago, by Rapitor

from the reddit: Stables lets you collect 30 wood an hour, at the cost of 20 energy and 10 food.

considering it's 20 energy with or without horse, all that energy goes into chopping the wood

Rapitor

Koviko

@Rapitor I'm terrified and amused at the same time.

Chippies

which pretty much implies that you're not even putting any effort when you're pulling the cart yourself

I mean, literally zero effort

Unionhawk

I'm confused

Koviko

15:50

Can we just agree that "video game logic" is video game logic?

Origami Robot

You spend less energy pulling the cart, but you're chopping 3 times as much wood.

Tim Stone

@Koviko I was going to agree that horses are demons based on the above picture but I can go with that too.

Unionhawk

You collect 3 times as much wood and don't have to spend any energy anymore pulling it so you now spend the same amount of energy chopping but no energy pulling

SaintWacko

So is this really an mmo incremental, or is it just an incremental with an attached chatroom?

Origami Robot

@SaintWacko The latter, so far.

Rapitor

15:52

I have 3 collect food and 3 cook food. it should be breaking even. why am i making a profit on food?

Origami Robot

@Rapitor hax

Unionhawk

When you get to fight to the death, call me.

Actually don't

I don't care

I won't care

Koviko

On my wood binge, now!

Can't idle it ._.

Unionhawk

I'll idle your face!

I don't know what that means

So don't ask me

Rapitor

@Koviko hours 3->9 will be derped

you can only get 5 max at a time without food

Koviko

15:56

@Rapitor I'm wrapping directly behind the highlighted hour

Rapitor

oh

Koviko

As long as I'm paying attention once every 10 minutes I can keep it going

Origami Robot

My favorite part is when @Unionhawk's brain is so befuddled that he just starts saying words which further buffudles him.

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