The Bridge

Unionhawk

17:00

I'm not sure what I just watched

badp

@Unionhawk In case of confusion, rewatch

Yuuki

@Rapitor A good number of the animators that worked on Gurren Lagann also worked on Kill La Kill.

They left Gainax and formed Studio Trigger. Which is also headed by Anno, I think.

Rapitor

@Yuuki mhm. since Gianax is no more a lot of the staff went on to Trigger, with Kill La Kill being their first, and this season's anime is a bit tamer, but still bonkers

Sterno

LinkedIn is the worst.

Frank

@Rapitor What's this season?

Sterno

17:05

> I am a recruiting consultant specializing in software and wanted to alert you of an opportunity you may be interested in. I work with Amazon.com based in Seattle, WA, and am searching for software engineers of all levels to join a BRAND NEW TEAM in Seattle working on a STEALTH PROJECT.

I've always wanted to work on a STEALTH PROJECT

Frank

@Sterno Oh, boy! STEALTH PROJECT! That means it pays triple my current salary, right? Right!?

Rapitor

When Supernatural Battles Became Commonplace

When Supernatural Battles Became Commonplace, known in Japan as Inou Battle Within Everyday Life (異能バトルは日常系のなかで, Inō-Batoru wa Nichijō-kei no Naka de), is a Japanese light novel series by Kota Nozomi with illustrations by 029. SB Creative has published seven volumes since 2012 under their GA Bunko imprint. A manga adaptation with art by Kōsuke Kurose began serialization in Kadokawa Shoten's Comp Ace from September 2013. An anime television series adaptation by Trigger began airing in Japan on October 6, 2014. == Plot == The story focuses on Senkō High School's Literature Club, whose five members...

Batophobia

@Frank Depends on your level of stealth.

Yuuki

@Rapitor Yeah, kinda interested in that.

@Rapitor Gainax is still a thing. It's just not the big player it used to be.

Unionhawk

@Sterno I feel like this has happened before

HOLY CRAP WHO IS HAMMERING THINGS IN THIS BUILDING

Frank

17:11

@Rapitor Hadn't heard of that one. Might check it out, see if it's any good.

Yuuki

@DwarfSlice If you're okay with not-giant robots and Western animation, Big Hero 6 is dropping next week.

StrixVaria

@Sterno Amazon Recruiters have reached out to me at least every month recently.

Rapitor

@Yuuki it's still got robots. and baloon bots

Frank

@Yuuki I've seen a couple trailers for this movie. Even if it's a kid's movie, it looks pretty good.

Yuuki

@Rapitor I said "not-giant".

Unionhawk

17:12

Welp

Yuuki

@Frank I like the music in the trailers, but apparently it won't be in the movie.

Unionhawk

That just happened

Rapitor

@Frank Disney animation does super kids movies like Frozen, and animated movies for everyone like Wreck-it-Ralph

Frank

@Rapitor To be fair, I kinda liked both of those.

Rapitor

I don't think many young kids would get any of the jokes or references in wreck-it-ralph

Yuuki

17:13

It's also the first Disney-Marvel animated movie.

SaintWacko

@Frank This

Rapitor

Disney owns practically everything at this point...

waiting for that artical on their purchase on like microsoft or google

then world domination

murgatroid99

@Rapitor Yeah, that's not going to happen

Frank

Also, to prepare for Avengers 2, my little sister and I are watching through all of the movies in the Marvel Cinematic universe. In order.

Sconibulus

Disney doesn't seem like they'd go that route... I feel they're more likely to purchase Amtrak and Delta and put the hubs minutes from Disneyland/world

SaintWacko

17:16

@Frank That's awesome

Rapitor

@Frank that will take quite a while

murgatroid99

@Sconibulus Aren't there already airports and train stations near Disneyland/world?

Unionhawk

@Sconibulus hahahahaha it's funny because it's true

Rapitor

@Sconibulus yeah, they have their own transportation stuffs

Frank

@Rapitor Ten movies. We're starting in the middle of January, and watching two movies every three weeks.

By the time we're done, there's three weeks until Avengers 2.

Sconibulus

17:18

@murgatroid99 yes, but they are not national hubs, as far as I know

Unionhawk

"Here delta, here's a bajillion dollars, make this a hub pls"

murgatroid99

@Unionhawk This seems like a more likely scenario to me

Yuuki

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Frank

New user is posting links to their youtube videos. Not disclosing that it's their video. Spam?

Yuuki

I don't like the song Disney seemingly replaced it with.

murgatroid99

17:21

@Frank Eh. I've posted links to my own videos that I made to answer questions without specifically saying that I made the videos

Yuuki

@Frank New user. Notify them of the policy before punitive action.

Frank

@murgatroid99 You're established. The majority of your posts aren't there to promote your videos.

@Yuuki That's what I'm currently doing.

murgatroid99

@Frank I guess I'm just trying to say that if the answer is primarily promoting the video, that's different than if the video is primarily answering the question

Frank

@murgatroid99 We still require video answers to be summarized, just like link only answers.

murgatroid99

@Frank Of course

I didn't say otherwise

When I said "the video is primarily answering the question", I meant "the primary purpose of the video is answering the question"

Lazers

17:25

0

Q: Help: Wondershare MobileGo for Android - Safe to use?

I have just downloaded Wondershare MobileGo for Android (Official key) from here: http://www.tiploot.com/wondershare-mobilego-for-android-free-full-version-serial-key/ Is it safe to use ? I'm going to use it but need help you. Thank you.

android

0

Q: What are the keys to having an active clan?

What are some of the best things to do for your clan in order for them to be active? There is no way to monitor day-to-day activity, and some of my members are inactive despite us begging them to attack in wars or donate. Is there any good way to get members to be active?

clash-of-clans

Frank

@Lazers Speaking of spam...

@murgatroid99 Making videos to answer questions is awesome. So long as there's something in there that goes, "Hey, I made this video to show you how to do this." And there's a summary of what's there, in case the video ever gets removed. If it looks like people are answering questions to promote their videos, though, and that's showing up from one of their first posts, it's starting to get a little iffy.

Unionhawk

If the video answers the question I see literally no problems with it.

Other than the obvious "don't link only", but nobody is arguing that

Frank

@Unionhawk Even if its self promotion?

Unionhawk

@Frank Even if it's self promotion.

Batophobia

I agree with @Unionhawk

Frank

17:29

@Unionhawk Our rules are that you have to disclose that.

Wipqozn

@Frank Link to user?

Unionhawk

@Frank Why does it matter?

Frank

SexyPurpleUnicorn

49 2

minecraft minecraft-forge

murgatroid99

@Frank I think that if anything, you should just comment that they should say that

Frank

@Unionhawk Because it colors how people look at their contributions.

@murgatroid99 That's what I've currently done.

But we've got three answers from him. Two have links to his videos. He's responding to summarizing the video content, but so far, nothing about the fact that they're his videos.

badp

17:30

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murgatroid99

@Frank You only commented on one of the video answers (that I can see), and you were kind of vague about the fact that it's actually a rule

Wipqozn

Flag it for moderator attention then, @Frank. You commented asking him to edit it in. If he doesn't do that, then I think it falls to the mods to deal with.

Yuuki

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A: Limits for self-promotion in answers

Thanks to everyone who participated in this dicussion, particularly Ira. Based on what we've decided in this question, I have updated the /faq on all sites to make it policy: May I promote products I am affiliated with here? The community generally frowns on overt self-promotion and ten...

Frank

@Wipqozn I don't like the whole, "Meh. Let the mods handle it" stance.

Batophobia

Frankly, I find it worse when the answer is something like "I made this video on my amazing Minecraft channel that has let's plays every Thursday" as opposed to "Here is a helpful tutorial video"

murgatroid99

17:31

@Frank If you use words like "generally" and "we tend to frown on...", they might not get the message that it's actually required

Frank

That's kinda just passing the buck.

Wipqozn

@Frank Certain things are mod responsibilities. This is one of those things.

Unionhawk

@Yuuki I think there's a difference between the SO brand of self promotion, and the "I made a video about this" brand of self promotion.

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Frank

@murgatroid99 Man, I get flak for speaking too authoritatively, and now I'm getting flak for not speaking authoritatively enough. :P

Wipqozn

I don't think regular users should be getting into extended discussion about users not following rules. You told him the rule, if he doesn't respond or make the edit, then it's something mods should deal with, not a regular user.

Frank

17:32

@Wipqozn Mods are exception handlers. This is something we can handle ourselves.

badp

hi im a mod

murgatroid99

@Frank If it's an actual rule, and you make it sound like it's not, they might not understand that it's an actual rule

Yuuki

@Frank You must walk on the razor's edge, young Padawan.

Batophobia

@badp readies abuse button

badp

There's no mod abuse here really

Frank told him to add a description... and he did

murgatroid99

17:34

Hello, welcome to Arqade. As a rule, we require that you disclose when you reference outside resources that you are affiliated with. In this case, it just means that you have to say in your answer that you made the video you linked to. — murgatroid99 11 secs ago

badp

and I'm like

►

Wipqozn

@murgatroid99 That's much more clear.

Unionhawk

(translation: @badp is confused as to why this is still an issue) does that sum it up well enough?

Yuuki

@Unionhawk It's policy on all sites.

> However, you must disclose your affiliation with the product in your answers.

murgatroid99

If they edit the information in following that comment, then that confirms my hypothesis about @Frank's wording

Yuuki

17:35

"Product" does not mean "thing you can sell".

badp

@Unionhawk and/or amazed that the user actually went back to add details

Frank

@murgatroid99 I hope they do.

badp

Given the avatar and name I was fully expecting some sort of @fredley joke account

Wipqozn

He made an edit.

> Here is a tutorial I made showing you [how to install Optifine for Minecraft 1.8][1]

Yuuki

Yay, problem solved.

badp

17:36

2 mins ago, by badp

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Unionhawk

Hooray, non-issue status achieved

Wipqozn

Yes. Balance is restored.

Unionhawk

I argue this was basically a non-issue to begin with but whatever!

Yay!

Batophobia

ORAGAMIROBOT THE LOUD, you are the first to make it to the tower

Frank

Problem, it is solved! Yay!

Wipqozn

17:37

@Unionhawk Frank's concerns about not stating it was his own video are valid.

Unionhawk

@Wipqozn The username and avatar matched for both, I think the "I made this" is self-evident.

SaintWacko

@Wipqozn always good to see a user listen

Frank

8 mins ago, by Frank

@Unionhawk Because it colors how people look at their contributions.

Unionhawk

Whatever

11 hours ago, by Unionhawk

(whenever I say "who cares", it's a rhetorical question where the answer is "I don't!")

Frank

If you have to click through a link to find out the user made it, that's sorta sketchy in my book. It feels like they're contributing for the wrong reasons.

Especially when the bar for disclosure is so low.

badp

17:40

btw

Wipqozn

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A: Why does saying "Swiper, no swiping!" three times prevent Swiper from swiping?

This is discussed at some considerable length in this article from howstuffworks. In short, his swiping is to be viewed less as a character flaw and more of a character trait: Show Co-Creator Valerie Walsh gives us some further insight: Swiper is a one-dimensional character. You don’t know w...

badp

I honestly think that it's still to enforce "spam" rules on random people on the internet

Reddit does that and it's stupid

Yuuki

@Unionhawk You're arguing a bit too much for a "I don't care" reaction.

Anyways, back to giant robots!

Unionhawk

So you're telling me the difference between a helpful user and a user who is promoting their stuff is an "I made this"?

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Frank

@Unionhawk Yes.

Unionhawk

17:41

Really?

...

murgatroid99

Is it really this much of a problem to ask users to follow rules?

RPi Awesomeness

#AllTheParagraphs

Yuuki

@Unionhawk Relevant:

(P.S. not that relevant at all)

RPi Awesomeness

@Yuuki lol, that comic :)

Frank

@Yuuki That's plagiarism. :P

DwarfSlice

17:42

Was it really necessary to ban me over that

Unionhawk

@DwarfSlice Probably

Yuuki

@DwarfSlice Huh?

What happened?

Unionhawk

:?

DwarfSlice

Dark Souls PVP: The Indie Game is now on Steam 'Early Access'

@Yuuki I got a 30 minute ban 30 minutes ago.

For the gif of the lady with the hammer

Koviko

@Wipqozn This happened. Dora is now more legitimately answered than many questions on SFF.

Batophobia

17:43

Wipqozn

@Koviko Nah. SFF has always been an excellent source of answers. The problems The Bridge has with SFF has to do with their question scope, not the quality of their answers.

Unionhawk

@Yuuki I just, think that the bar for "spammy self promotion" should be more geared towards "is user helpful y/n", especially in the context of youtube videos and not "I made this thing". Why is the user making the thing relevant?

RPi Awesomeness

Dat Windows 93 though :P

Wipqozn

@Yuuki He posted a NSFW picture

DwarfSlice

@Unionhawk It's not.

Koviko

17:44

@Wipqozn I mean that this answer has a very official source rather than a scramble of canon.

Unionhawk

EXACTLY

DwarfSlice

@Wipqozn What was nsfw about it?

StrixVaria

@DwarfSlice The scantily clad lady drawing attention to her buttocks.

Koviko

My idea of "legitimate" is colored by my time spent on Arqade where we make lots of guesses and assumptions about lore and mechanics, but an official developer response is the only "legitimate" answer.

DwarfSlice

she was fully clothed, what are you talking about

Koviko

17:46

@StrixVaria Where can I find this image?

DwarfSlice

it's from a shitty music video

StrixVaria

@Koviko Not on the bridge, preferably.

DwarfSlice

jeez

it didn't even get flagged

nobody even asked me to remove it

you just banned me

it wasn't even bad

Koviko

:18345667 I didn't realize how much I liked this song until just now.

Unionhawk

Like, if it's a link only like "Click on my video to learn!" yes that's spammy self promotion and furthermore a link-only, but if the user posts an answer and supplements it with a video why does it matter if they made the video or not, mention or no mention

Frank

17:47

8 mins ago, by Frank

@Unionhawk Because it colors how people look at their contributions.

James

@Unionhawk D: I have some videos in my answers

Batophobia

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RPi Awesomeness

@Batophobia Eh?

Koviko

With video answers, I am conflicted.

James

@Chippies @Arperum Damn.. I might be losing my game's progress from an unknown time :(

Yuuki

17:48

@Unionhawk Because, at this point in time, it is a network-wide policy. If you want that to change, you should bring it up on either our meta or Meta.SE.

Unionhawk

sigh

SaintWacko

Anyone else here play the Hexxit modpack?

Frank

If the main reason users are posting answers here to direct traffic to their channel, they can be (and should be) flagged as spam.

Yuuki

You don't try to change the law by breaking it first.

Unionhawk

Sure you do/.

Frank

17:48

Utility is entirely beside the point.

Batophobia

@Unionhawk Consider this: Do you REALLY care that much?

Unionhawk

@Frank I disagree 100%

Koviko

On one hand, I think that the relevant content of the video should be expressed in the post just like linking to a website, you should quote the relevant material in case the website ever goes down or is changed.

James

Would seem that when my computer was crashing this morning and I tried to save my file which all said it was ok... Dropbox is reporting it at a size of 0 :(

Unionhawk

@Batophobia I guess I do. If only for the principle of the thing.

Frank

17:49

yesterday, by Unionhawk

Oct 15 at 19:09, by badp

@Frank Well then, I shall respect your right to be wrong on the internet.

murgatroid99

@Koviko This is an orthogonal problem

Koviko

On the other hand, I think if it's easier to just answer with a video rather than typing it out, you should be welcome to do so and the upvotes/downvotes will speak from there

Unionhawk

@Frank No.

You.

Frank

18 secs ago, by Frank

yesterday, by Unionhawk

Oct 15 at 19:09, by badp

@Frank Well then, I shall respect your right to be wrong on the internet.

murgatroid99

@Frank Can we please stop with this stupid quote

It's condescending and obnoxious

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Koviko

17:49

._.

Unionhawk

I've deleted it myself

RPi Awesomeness

Good lord, it's a star spam

Rapitor

STARS

Frank

I'm just finding the irony here of using his own quote against him somewhat amusing.

Unionhawk

@RPiAwesomeness You haven't seen star spam

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RPi Awesomeness

17:50

@Rapitor All the stars

Frank

Especially when he enjoys using it against me.

RPi Awesomeness

@Unionhawk I've seen something close to it

murgatroid99

@Frank Sure, fine, but that quote was never not stupid

James

@RPiAwesomeness Nah its just the rare Bridge agreeing with each other time it seems

Unionhawk

@Frank I have words that would rightfully get me banned right now to respond to this, so I won't use them.

Just know they exist.

Wipqozn

17:51

I think we should all just hug it out.

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James

@Frank um.. @badp and @Unionhawk are the same person all of a sudden? :D

Arperum

@James WHy?

Rapitor

apparently @DwarfSlice was beaned again

murgatroid99

> yesterday, by Unionhawk

Koviko

@James Frank linked Union quoting it.

James

17:51

@Arperum I dont know! I am all Distraught! :(

Wipqozn

@Rapitor He posted the video containing the image that got him banned earlier.

Koviko

QUote of a quote is still a quote

SaintWacko

> I have… seen things you people wouldn't believe… Attack stars on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched pins glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those… moments… will be lost to modabuse, like [small cough] tears… in… rain. Time… to die…

Koviko

""You miss every shot you don't take" ~ Wayne Gretzky" - Micheal Scott

James

@Koviko Ahhh

fredley

17:52

@Koviko Quote overflow

Frank

@Unionhawk Well, if you want to disagree, I have no issue arguing it out with you. But you're going with is, "No. I disagree." without actually arguing.

Wipqozn

@fredley oh zeus what the hell

Sconibulus

@Koviko this quote has always bothered me, just because it's super wrong

Wipqozn

CHANGE YOUR GRAVATAR BACK

fredley

@Wipqozn What

I didn't do that!

wtf

James

17:52

@fredley I am soooooooooooooo there.

SaintWacko

@Sconibulus I once sold pies without ever attempting to sell pies

murgatroid99

@Sconibulus You also make every shot you don't take, but that's not as motivating

Jason Berkan

@Wipqozn Pot. Meet kettle.

fredley

cc: @badp WAT

Sconibulus

any good hockey player knows roughly 5% of goals are lucky bounces off of attempted passes

Frank

17:53

@fredley You're probably attached to meta.SE

SaintWacko

I also once sold a couple muffins twice

James

@fredley OMG The porkchop is gone!?

Sconibulus

that counts as a made shot you don't take

Unionhawk

Chat's being weird, it's fine on site

Wipqozn

I'm so angry at this that I'm going to leave chat forever!

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fredley

17:53

I'm still attached to gaming

Batophobia

I think it's safe to say

fredley

but the gravatar has got confused

Wipqozn

@fredley amd you're gaming avatar is right... this is weird.

fredley

I BLAME CACHEING

Wipqozn

@fredley Yeah, caching is always at fault.

Yuuki

17:54

I BLAME ME BLAMING THINGS.

SaintWacko

@Wipqozn your*

StrixVaria

shouldiblamecaching.com

Batophobia

SaintWacko

>.>

murgatroid99

@Batophobia Just link to the actual xkcd link

badp

17:54

@fredley mod abuse!

fredley

IT'S OKAY, PORKCHOP IS BACK

@badp YOU DONE REFRESHED MY SCREEN

SaintWacko

Whew!

murgatroid99

What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!

3

It has hover text

djsmiley2k

/me looks in

Unionhawk

@Frank I mean, the argument came down to "why is this an issue" "because it is, okay?", so I don't think this would be productive.

badp

17:54

@fredley mod abuse!

Arperum

@James what happened? :(

Batophobia

xkcd spamming :D

fredley

@badp what do?

SaintWacko

@djsmiley2k Run. RUN! RUN!!!!!

fredley

@badp I think you should show @Wipqozn the same courtesy you showed me

djsmiley2k

17:55

@SaintWacko I've been running all my life.... time to stop I think.

Yuuki

@Unionhawk My point is that you're kinda arguing to the wrong people.

badp

@fredley moderation tools → refresh profile

James

@Batophobia Dunno I think something made my computer unstable this morning (ithas some CRT Dialog box up) but I was in a hurry to work so I saved it real quick .. but with the file being empty I am concerned :/

SaintWacko

@djsmiley2k Bad place to stop!

Koviko

@Unionhawk Wait, what argument was it? Was it the video content argument or no?

Unionhawk

17:55

@Yuuki Fair enough.

badp

although nothing changed for @Wipqozn.

fredley

@badp How did it even become unfresh?

Unionhawk

Well, heh.

James

I think I had around 1500 souls to ascend with as well :/

badp

@fredley iunno

Unionhawk

17:55

hehe

Yuuki

Even if everyone on the Bridge agreed with your position, it doesn't make a difference because it's Stack Exchange policy.

Batophobia

@James I'm guessing this was meant for @Arperum

djsmiley2k

@SaintWacko lol yah maybe.

badp

@Yuuki er... what happen? I wasn't looking

Koviko

@Yuuki We could always try to get it changed. The whole meta thing should allow for the site culture to mature.

Frank

17:56

@Unionhawk I could keep this going, but whatever. You're right, it would just be completely unproductive, as we won't agree on this.

Yuuki

@Koviko ... That was my point...

James

@badp Yes it was, that is the second time its chosen to reply to you instead of whom itshould be going too..

Damn!

Yuuki

If @Unionhawk has a problem with Stack Exchange policy, he needs to go the proper channels.

James

Effing mouse track pad!

Chippies

@Arperum I haven't tested it much, but I think the gold is based on the highest zone you have available. The reason I say this is because if I ascend, my highest zone is 101, because of Iris and if I click on candy in level 1, I get enough gold to buy 100 King Midas and even few above him

Yuuki

17:57

The Bridge is not a proper channel for changing network-wide policy.

badp

@James I'm popular!

James

@Batophobia Grah! Yes! [gets away form the keyboard]

Unionhawk

Yeah yeah I might take it to meta.SE someday

in the mean time I will rant on the bridge

er, have ranted

Arperum

@Chippies hmmm, I'll test when I get a candy.

Batophobia

What's the latest on the @Sterno Dora question?

Unionhawk

17:58

I don't even think it requires a policy change per se as much as a clarification

Powerlord

@RPiAwesomeness We called that version "Windows 3.1"

murgatroid99

@Unionhawk The current rule is "If you made something and you link to it, you have to say that you made it"

RPi Awesomeness

@Powerlord It's so rainbows and and dancy!

murgatroid99

It would need to change for that to only apply sometimes

RPi Awesomeness

And Virus-y, but that's normal for Windows :P

Unionhawk

17:59

Okay, let's pretend I'm secretly CaptainSparklez. Does this answer now break the rules?

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A: How to channel Redstone current vertically?

You can place redstone dust on glowstone and upside-down slabs. This is important because they are also transparent blocks, so the redstone current won't be blocked. You can set up your glowstone or top slabs in an alternating pattern, with redstone on top, and then run the current from there. ...

Frank

@murgatroid99 And exactly where it would apply then.

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