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Wipqozn

12:00

@BenBrocka Poor guy.

5pike

@BenBrocka That doesn't look mega to me.

More like "get me out of this thing!"

Wipqozn

The anime movie list is very disappointing. Most of it is bleach and naruto movies.

Ben Brocka

@Wipqozn I hardly looked at the movie/show list

I don't even know how ownership of that works on PSN, I assume not DRM free/something that works on PC

Wipqozn

well I might pick up DMC. Emphasis on might. Not sure if I ever would play it, but it's $15 off.

I'll just wait to decide until it's too late.

Ben Brocka

always a solid plan

For some reason my brain is tempted to grab the digital copy of ToS Chronicles even though I already have and never play the disk version

It's not actually a great remaster visually, but it's a good price for a great game

Wipqozn

12:06

@BenBrocka ToS was really good.

I played it back on the gamecube.

Ben Brocka

same, but I only borrowed it

Wipqozn

I owned it, back in the day.

I likely traded it in to EB Games at some point.

Origami Robot

@Wipqozn IF DMC4 IS ANY REPRESENTATIVE OF THE SERIES AS A WHOLE, JUST PLAY ONIMUSHA. IT'S WAY MORE FUN.

Ben Brocka

...beat the whole game and played like 200 hours but didn't own it. I bought ToSC to assuage my guilt for getting an ISO

Wipqozn

I always regret every decision I've ever made which involved me trading in games.

Ben Brocka

12:08

@OrigamiRobot ugh capcom why you no make more onimusha

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot THis might sound strange, but I honestly don't know if I 've played that series before.

Origami Robot

@BenBrocka DAWN OF DREAMS WAS '06 T_T

Wipqozn

@BenBrocka Because Capcom is a poorly managed company.

Also, there's been an Onimusha game since dawn of dreams.

They released a browser game in 2012!

Origami Robot

> Inafune also talked about making a follow up to Dawn of Dreams but he stated he was more interested in developing Mega Man Legends 3.

:/

Wipqozn

►

My zeus I hate Capcom.

I hope a more competent company buys them, and makes non-terrible business decisions.

I thnk I may have played dawn of dreams.

Fluttershy

12:13

@BenBrocka Oh nice! I'll have to see what I can afford after I get paid.

Wipqozn

I have some vague memories of the blue armored guy on the cover

Origami Robot

Wipqozn

I could just be confusing it with Ninja Gaidan though.

Yeah, looking at gameplay I'm pretty sure I neve rplayed, but instead thought about buying it but never did.

Origami Robot

FROM WHAT I CAN TELL, IT'S LIKE DMC EXCEPT INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON UNBROKEN ATTACK CHAINS AND JUGGLING, YOU HAVE FUN.

Michel

store.steampowered.com/app/230230

Anyone?

o.o I'm dead curious about this game, I saw/read a lot of it. But, I think you guys comments > all xD

Wipqozn

12:19

@Michel I think @Sterno ownsi t.

Michel

* - *

Wipqozn

However he might currently be busy having a baby.

Michel

@Wipqozn thanks xD

WHaaaaat ?!

@Wipqozn for real?

Wipqozn

@Michel Yes. His second child is due sometime around now.

Fluttershy

@Michel I have heard nothing bad about Divonity: Original Sin.

Origami Robot

12:21

@Wipqozn WHAT A SCAMP

Ben Brocka

@OrigamiRobot I still need to get that

I still have no working offical PS2/ps2 emulating hardware though

pcsx2 is amazing but kinda just wonky enough I'm not sure I want to use it

same with dolphin

Origami Robot

I NEVER FINISHED IT :/

Ben Brocka

I had 1-3 on PS2, sold 2 (woulda kept it if I decided today), never got dawn of dreams, those are the only worthwhile ones right?

Wipqozn

@Fluttershy Yeah, everyone who has played it is enjoying it.

Michel

@Fluttershy Thanks for the feedback ^.^

Origami Robot

12:25

@BenBrocka YEA, AND 2 IS THE WORST

Ben Brocka

yeah 2 felt really weird

Martin Sojka

@Fluttershy There are some mildly critical reviews on Metacritic (from God is a Geek and Kill Screen), but that's about it. Personally, no time to check the game.

Ben Brocka

apparently it was a different team

Wipqozn

12:38

I'll probably finish the second stratum tomorrow in EO3. Should be rad. Second Stratum has been very difficult, what with all the blasted starfish.

Arperum

Dammit Java. Properly repaint your forms you moronic thing.

Lazers

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I used to play NBA Street v3 (PS2) a lot back a few years. Today I decided to start all over again. I remember playing career mode only with created ballers using my custom team (if I'm not crazy!) but now I can't find a way to do that. Every time I try to start a career, I can only choose one ...

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Sterno has added Wipqozn to the list of this room's owners.

Sterno

@Michel I've only played the first hour or so, but I'm looking forward to it when I have more time. My only complaint is that it's a little on the silly side

Like, a talking clamshell that you throw into the sea, and it throws you back a treasure chest with a golden butter knife

Lazers

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Q: Beyblade MF for DS: How do I change Bey equipments before Story Mode battles?

I went to Bey Garage and bought many new improvement items, and customised my Bey from the MOD. Now, when I save it and go over to Story Mode, and resume my play, I cannot change anything or into another Bey. I'm attaching a picture. It's of the time when I "Equip" my Beyblade. It's exactly wha...

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Fluttershy

12:52

@Sterno Now I want to play it even more. :P

I'm a sucker for unnecessary silliness in things.

Origami Robot

GAMES ARE SRS BSNS

Sterno

I'm not against general silliness. But I like understanding how the world behaves, and giant talking clamshells that can't get themselves back into the sea, but can throw you massive treasure chests from the sea once they're in there, make it hard for me to follow the reality they're trying to create.

That golden butter knife was my warrior's new weapon, though. That part was awesome.

Combat is fun. Character creation/improvement is fun.

Fluttershy

Silliness is part of why I loved Shadows of the Damned.

Wipqozn

@Sterno I'll probably need to play it at some point. Probably.

I honestly don't know much about it, except that it's supposedly similiarto baldurs gate, which I've never played.

Fluttershy

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Q: What was the first FPS to use WASD for controls?

Somewhere between Wolfenstein 3D and Quake III Arena, the default controls changed from the arrow keys to W A S D. When did that happen and which was the first game to use WASD as its default control scheme?

first-person-shooter gaming-history

Needs more close votes.

Frank

13:08

I have too much to play, and not enough time to play them all.

SaintWacko

@Fluttershy Do we not allow history of gaming questions?

Frank

@SaintWacko We really shouldn't, in my opinion.

We're actually setting somewhat of an inconsistent policy by allowing historical trivia.

Fluttershy

@SaintWacko We do not.

It's in the game identification close reason.

Frank

We currently allow historical trivia, so long as you don't hit the magical word syndrome of asking for which game was first.

Fluttershy

Also... What the hell. Rise of the Tomb Raider is exclusive to Xbone.

SaintWacko

13:11

@Frank Hm, that's... odd

Fluttershy

Guess I'll pick it up on PC later.

Origami Robot

Frank

@SaintWacko Yeah. One is a game rec in disguise, if you ask for which game was first, but avoid asking that, and we allow it, apparently.

Fluttershy

@BenBrocka Below is debuting on Xbone. No word on any other platform releases. :(

Frank

Which is strange, as not asking for a game broadens the scope enormously.

Martin Sojka

13:14

The "Which MMO had the first player-limited dungeons?" was closed down/deleted pretty damn quickly too. Though to be fair, that's a hard one to answer.

Rapitor

@Fluttershy doesn't surprise me.

Fluttershy

Regardless, the itg close reason plainly says asking which was first is not allowed. :P

Ben Brocka

@Fluttershy It's going to be on Steam

Arperum

Gah. Java is being stupid. If I tell you to repaint PanelX you should do so, and not repaint it's parent in the background of said parent...

Biggest part of the offender is the transparency though, remove that and all problems are magically fixed...

Lazers

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Q: Additional soldier customisation options in X-Com Enemy Within

I have noticed some videos on Youtube show the Soldier Customisation screen with more options (e.g different suit/colours/helmet etc)... Is this a cheat or just an additional DLC pack I don't know about?

xcom-enemy-within turn-based-strategy

Ben Brocka

13:26

Poor Kinect, 3 new bundles, not one with Kinect

Rapitor

@BenBrocka it's good tech... just no dev (other than poor Rare) touches it.

Ben Brocka

Plenty of devs touch it

good tech just didn't translate to good gameplay, especially not in traditinoal games

And the non-traditional games were mostly crap

Fluttershy

@BenBrocka Hopefully. I was looking forward to playing it.

Ben Brocka

@Fluttershy not hopefully, they've confirmed it

polygon.com/2014/4/11/5603552/…

Fluttershy

Oh, yayy!

Ben Brocka

13:34

I've lost count of how many times they've promised Halo 2's gameplay will be unmolested

Rapitor

Is that a bad thing? Halo 2's gameplay was arguably the best of the 4

Ben Brocka

They don't need to mention it like 5 times though

5pike

@BenBrocka When it comes to avoiding nerd rage, you can't be too safe.

Ben Brocka

It's like the entire selling point of the collection, I think people get it

Arperum

@5pike If they keep hammering on it, they probably did though.

Rapitor

13:43

@5pike MS learned that when they first revealed the XB1... the hard way

5pike

@Arperum and then we get the other part of the spectrum. You can't make everyone happy, can you?

Arperum

@5pike Also true.

Ben Brocka

lol tomb raider's announcement of exclusivity is blowing up on tumblr

tombraider.tumblr.com/post/94529480860/…

Wipqozn

> We know they will get behind this game more than any support we have had from them in the past - we believe this will be a step to really forging the Tomb Raider brand as one of the biggest in gaming, with the help, belief and backing of a major partner like Microsoft.

Origami Robot

@BenBrocka WHY CAN'T THEY JUST SAY "MICROSOFT GAVE IS A LOT OF MONEY TO MAKE IT EXCLUSIVE"

Wipqozn

13:50

so they gave us a lot of money. Gotcha.

@OrigamiRobot Because very few companies actually understand the internet PR is different than non=internet PR.

Ben Brocka

@OrigamiRobot I dunno honestly, we all know that's what they mean

Wipqozn

Internet PR is about being honest, since on the internet everyone can easily call you out on your bullshit.

Origami Robot

IF THEY JUST PLAYED THE "WITH MORE MONEY WE CAN MAKE A BETTER GAME AND THEY GAVE US MORE MONEY SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A GREAT GAME" ANGLE, I CAN GET BEHIND THAT

5pike

I have a feeling that it will not be exclusive for long.

Ben Brocka

Their wording is surprisingly definite

I think they bought themselves too much negative PR for a timed exclusive with how they posted it

5pike

13:54

Eh, money can change things. If the game is good and there's demand, it'll get released on other consoles/pc.

But I don't know the contract conditions behind the exclusive deal.

Ben Brocka

@5pike terms of the deal matter more than demand

There's rarely a reason not to release on both consoles, and usually PC, these days

"we're contractually not allowed to" is about the only reason, and that only makes sense if you're paid enough to lose all those sales

5pike

@BenBrocka That has to be a pretty hefty sum.

Ben Brocka

Tomb Raider (2013) Sales by platform

PS3 - 2.2 million
X360 - 1.71 million
PS4 - 0.46 million
PC - 0.27 million
XOne - 0.17 million

from someone on neogaf

they better have secured a lot of money

SaintWacko

Morning, Bridge

Fluttershy

I'm taking comfort in the fact that Ryse and Dead Rising 3 were Xbone exclusives too.

5pike

14:02

@BenBrocka They could potentially lose out on selling ~3 million copies.

Ben Brocka

yeah, and there's no way MS paid them $180 million - distribution costs. not sure what they're thinking

Powerlord

> C++ is the programming language equivalent of a powerful but touchy sports car that's almost guaranteed to crash and burn in the hands of novice drivers, but can perform beautifully in the hands of an expert. C is that same car with the mirrors, safety belts, and airbags removed.

Ben Brocka

also selling better on PS3 than 360 seems to indicate their audience either isn't multiplat or strongly prefers PS--360 usually sells better for multi (but Tomb raider is more heavily PS anyway)

5pike

@BenBrocka Probably a timed contract. A year, or 8 months ...

Ben Brocka

the tumblr post's wording is pretty definite

I suppose it could be a "rise of the tomb raider sigma" situation though

Martin Sojka

14:05

@Powerlord No. C is the same car, but from the 60ties, which means it lacks all the great new security features, but is also several orders of magnitude easier to understand.

Fluttershy

@BenBrocka If you think about it, Tomb Raider started on Playstation. It makes sense that the majority of its fans are there.

Wipqozn

Exclusives are the worst.

Fluttershy

Yeah. Squeenix really screwed this one up.

If you're going to make something exclusive, at least put it on the better selling of the platforms...

Ben Brocka

@Fluttershy yeah

MBraedley

@MartinSojka It's more like the same car, but C doesn't have traction control, so it's harder to get the power of the engine effectively to the tires, and it doesn't have ABS, so if there's something unexpected on the road, it's harder to avoid.

Ben Brocka

14:11

@Wipqozn I don't mind first party exclusives, and I don't entirely mind third party exclusives funded by a platform (titanfall, sunset overdrive, Grim Fandango remake), but "pay so you don't put it on the other platforms" is such shit

Rise of the Tomb Raider was happening anyway

Megaton: white vertical PS4 stand amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00MI4Y3W2/15-24-20

Lazers

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minecraft technical-issues

5pike

@BenBrocka Do you actually need a stand? It looks like it could stand on its own.

Wipqozn

@BenBrocka First party are fine, I dislike others. At least for XBONE and PS4.

The consoles are essentially identical from a user point of view, so needing to buy both is just annoying.

Ben Brocka

@5pike Vertically? It can possibly, but a light touch would probably knock it over

I have a cat so no vertical consoles for me

which is a shame, I'd save a lot of floor space that way

MBraedley

Ars Technica's take on Tomb Raider exclusivity for those behind a work filter

5pike

14:18

@BenBrocka Looking at a picture of a black stand attached to a ps4, doesn't look any safer.

Wipqozn

either way, my next major gaming purchase will be a new PC.

Ben Brocka

Not insanely stable but it's much better than the stock base width I'd assume

Can't just upgrade parts? Usually cheaper and you can be more selective

5pike

@BenBrocka True. It's also nice that it can be fixed on the console.

Ben Brocka

It looks fine flat though

Wipqozn

@BenBrocka I could, but I'd rather just build a new one.

Ben Brocka

14:22

and unlike the PS3 models, the USB is well exposed when flat

they're totally hidden by the fat/slim ps3's big...overlapping...thing

5pike

@BenBrocka I know. Was a real pain to plug one in.

Ben Brocka

I can find them by feel now, much nicer on PS4 though

However the 2 USB limit is kinda annoying--especially since I use 1 for the Gold Headset thing pretty often. Hopefully they go back to 4 at some point

5pike

@BenBrocka A hub doesn't work?

Ben Brocka

I'd probably need a USB hub if Wii U only had 2 USBs. I already use 2 for an external HDD and the Smash gamecube adapter thing also uses 2

Fluttershy

My PS4 just sits flat. Ever since my 360 dug a ring in a disc after falling from its vertical position, I just don't trust it.

Ben Brocka

14:25

@5pike I thing you can use a hub but I haven't tried

yeah I just sit 'em all flat

Origami Robot

@Fluttershy UGH, 360 WAS SO BAD ABOUT THAT

Ben Brocka

I dont' think the 360 was meant to be vertical, though a lot of ads made it look that way

Origami Robot

NOT PERFECTLY LEVEL? I'LL JUST RUIN YOUR GAME.

Ben Brocka

Speaking of, is the 360 supposed to be really hot? the "top" vents seem way hotter than any other console

Origami Robot

@BenBrocka THE FRONT USB DEFINITELY IMPLY VERTICAL

Wipqozn

14:27

@OrigamiRobot The 360 was poorly built.

I lived everyday in fear that I'd wake up to a RROD on my 360.

Ben Brocka

There's front USB?

Wipqozn

Every. Single. Day.

Ben Brocka

oh is that what's in the little slip cover thing?

Wipqozn

Pure. Fear. Italics.

Rapitor

@BenBrocka original 360s were horribly made. thats why many of them red-ringed. the ones now are fine

Origami Robot

14:28

@Wipqozn THAT'S AN EASY FIX THOUGH

Ben Brocka

It's a slim Reach LE console

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot Buy a PS3 instead? Oh buuurrrnnnn!

Ben Brocka

still hot

Origami Robot

THE FACT THAT MS DIDN'T FIX IT PROPERLY IS THE REAL DUMB PART

Ben Brocka

even when running arcade ports...I assume it doesn't have proper processor stepping

not sure if consoles ever do

Powerlord

14:28

The best part of the launch model PS3 is that it has like 6 USB ports.

MBraedley

@BenBrocka Don't put anything on top of your 360.

Powerlord

4 in front, 2 in back iirc

Ben Brocka

I'm not stupid

It's on it's own on the floor, flat, still hot

Rapitor

on carpet?

Ben Brocka

no, hardwood

dont' think it exhausts downward anyway

Rapitor

14:31

I'm pretty certain the 360S was meant to be used standing as the cooling vents are on the sides.

I have the reach edition and it definitely performed cooler while standing

MBraedley

My suggestion would be to do your best to clean out any dust. Electronics closer to the floor tend to pick up more dust than those that are elevated.

Ben Brocka

It was unopened for like 3 years and I've had it for 2 weeks, shouldn't be much dust

MBraedley

Still, might be worth a try to see if that reduces the heat

Ben Brocka

Journey & The Unfinished Swan confirmed for PS4: http://bit.ly/1kyQgKn Two of PSN's best, revisited in 1080p http://t.co/152ylipJbK

Tweeted by PlayStation on August 12, 2014 at 2:35 PM

aw yiss

motha
fuckin
journey

MBraedley

@BenBrocka Wait, Journey wasn't in 1080p in the PS3?

Rapitor

14:38

wasn't it already confirmed long time ago?

Frank

We've got some @Sterno-level drama going on about our historical trivia policies.

Ben Brocka

It was teased but not confirmed like back at launch

And no, 720p, very few 3D games were 1080p unless they had PS2-level polygons

flower was also 720p, not sure about Flow, it was pretty basic but also pretty early

Rapitor

goes to show resolution != beauty.

Ben Brocka

Er, no, Flower still looks much better on PS4

Art style is more important, but I'm quite happy to have the PS4 versions

agent86

Chippies

14:41

@Rapitor TVs are generally slightly more "blurry" to cover up the lower resolutions

but generally, higher settings > higher resolution

if you can't have both, of course

Ben Brocka

Non-native res is pretty gross

I'd rather devs just make things to a standard, considering we're talking consoles that output to TV over HDMI thus 1080p is basically the ceiling anyway

Chippies

@BenBrocka depends on game and screen

there's still plenty of people using 720p TVs

Ben Brocka

No, upscaling is universally cross on anything that's not a CRT because CRTs basically dont' have "native res"

also 720p TVs aren't usually 720p

Chippies

@BenBrocka they're usually not 1080p either?

Ben Brocka

no, 1080p TVs are real 1080p

720p TVs are usually 1366x768

I don't think many 720p tvs exist in the wild anymore either, you can get 1080p for really cheap now

Chippies

14:44

@BenBrocka I meant 720p TVs aren't 1080p

and Idk about consoles, don't they do 1366x768 if that's the "standard" for 720p TVs?

Ben Brocka

They're never native res is the problem, and they're also dinosaurs so it's no longer a very relevant target

Frank

I love it when users think the subject field of tickets is optional.

Fluttershy

pushsquare.com/news/2014/08/…

They make a pretty good argument about TR still coming to the PS4.

Chippies

non-1080p TVs are still very popular, especially if you want a smaller one

Arperum

@Frank You then see the reply field as optional too?µ

Frank

14:46

@Arperum Sadly, my entire job right now is to reply to tickets.

Ben Brocka

There are plenty of small 1080p TVs

Fluttershy

I need a new TV.

Powerlord

@Frank :O

Ben Brocka

according to a quick google search, 1080p was the majority as of 3 years ago, probably much higher for gamers

Chippies

of course there are, but they are more expensive

Arperum

14:46

@Frank Gah.

Chippies

when I was looking for a cheap TV, I came across A LOT of 720p TVs

Lazers

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Q: What/Who is this Blue Dragon? And why is it in Orgimmar?

I was flying through Orgrimmar when I saw this blue dragon, hovering over the city. Here is a screen shot: It kind of looks as though it is creating a blue version of The Matrix there.. Why is/was it there, and what is/was it doing?

world-of-warcraft

MBraedley

@BenBrocka I still use a 720p TV, although I'll be in the market for a new one when it's financially right for me

Arperum

Mine consist of remaking a website with DB into some offline portalble variant in Java. With somewhat betterlooking design.

Chippies

1080p TVs were usually above 400$, whereas majority under that price was 720p

Arperum

14:47

Transparancy in Swing is a bitch.

Ben Brocka

they're like $100-$200 for a 24" 1080p TV

Chippies

we did get a 1080p TV on black friday for 300$ tho

Ben Brocka

even cheaper if you just get an HDMI monitor usually

Chippies

@BenBrocka I actually have not seen a 24" 1080p TV around here, but I haven't looked at such tiny ones either, because I'd rather just get a monitor

at 24" there's very little reason to get a TV

imho

Ben Brocka

lots of people don't properly understand that a monitor and a TV aren't very different

If it's only for consoles or other HDMI input devices, yeah, just get a monitor at that size

MBraedley

14:50

I wish I could set a specific size range (for instance, 46"-54") instead of the pre-canned selections when searching for a TV on most retailer websites.

Chippies

lots of people don't understand that 720p and 1080p is quite different :P

Ben Brocka

@MBraedley newegg is usually pretty good for that

fancy sliders and crap for specific specs

Chippies

and most often people buy a console for their TV, not a TV for their console

as long as 720p TVs keep being made, we will keep getting 720p games for consoles

Ben Brocka

which is kinda silly if you're talking buying a $400 console for a Tv it'd cost less than $200 to replace

@Chippies eh, not on PS4. Wii U and last gen are hitting it because of power, Xbox One is more like 900p

Not many are deliberately targeting 720p anymore. 30 FPS, yeah they'll target that

Chippies

@BenBrocka well, I haven't seen any 900p TVs, so that's not very helpful :P

MBraedley

14:53

Chippies

I have Wii U on a 1080p TV and I can honestly say it looks beautiful at whatever resolution it's running

although I don't have a 720p TV to compare it with

MBraedley

Oh, but those options expand. I guess that's not so bad

Ben Brocka

@Chippies the difference is very apparent when you see it. 720p looking okay doesn't mean 1080p isn't noticeably better

It takes about 5 seconds on a PC to see this

@MBraedley ah. I don't think you get to be that picky anyway, most TV makers design them for the 40/50/60" cutoffs anyway

Chippies

@BenBrocka I can see it on my laptop monitor, not so much on TV

but again - I don't have direct comparisons for TV

Ben Brocka

I use both TV and monitor for both console and PC--extremely visible on both

Chippies

14:56

I can tell you that 480p or whatever Wii games are running at look horrendous though

Powerlord

@BenBrocka Well, other than TVs have more inputs? :P

Fluttershy

I'm probably gonna have to suck it up and get a TV with a 120hz refresh rate... Bleh. I'm not even sure my current TV is 1080p.

MBraedley

Chippies

@Powerlord nowadays you don't really need all those inputs

Powerlord

(and a TV Tuner, but that's obvious)

Chippies

14:57

hdmi is all you need in a modern household :P

Powerlord

@Chippies My TV has a Wii, PS3, Xbox 360, and cable television line plugged into it.

Origami Robot

WHY WOULD ANYONE EVER NEED MORE THAN 64K?

Chippies

@Powerlord I suppose if you want to plug all your consoles at once it helps to have more inputs... :P often monitors have 2 hdmi inputs or more though

Powerlord

That's Component, HDMI, HDMI, and coaxial.

Chippies

but you can't really do component or coaxial on a monitor

Frank

14:58

@Fluttershy Eh? You can see 60Hz?

Ben Brocka

@Powerlord just need an HDMI switch

non-HDMI is a problem though, need weird adapters in most cases

Chippies

if you switch from Wii to Wii U, you only need hdmi

MBraedley

Or home theatre amp

Powerlord

@Chippies Yes, but then I'd need a Gamecube to play old Gamecube games... :P

Ben Brocka

TVs usually don't have enough inputs anyway, 3 is still pretty limiting for me

Chippies

14:59

@Powerlord you can softmod Wii U to run gamecube games, but you'd need extra stuff to use the controllers

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