The Bridge

StrixVaria

00:01

CC @BenBrocka

user58869

@FEichinger what is this?

user15026

@StrixVaria aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa‌aaaaaaaaaaa

user15026

Okay, Bridge, FF VII, or FF VIII? Go.

StrixVaria

@AshleyNunn VIII.

user20683

VIII but you know that already :)

user15026

00:03

(aka I am going to pick one up on Steam and I can't decide)

user20683

I'd say IX but that's more complicated to get

StrixVaria

VIII is on Steam now?

ugh

user20683

@StrixVaria III will on there on Tuesday

user15026

@StrixVaria That doesn't fill me with confidence.....

StrixVaria

@AshleyNunn It's because now I have to spend money.

user15026

00:04

@StrixVaria Ah, I see. Confidence restored.

user15026

I just want something with a story and I've always wanted to play FF and this is an easy way to do it.

StrixVaria

@WorldEngineer American III or Japanese III?

badp

@AshleyNunn 6

StrixVaria

@AshleyNunn If you want story, then definitely VIII over VII.

user20683

@StrixVaria I believe Japanese?

user15026

00:05

@badp THAT IS NOT AN OPTION

user20683

It's not the ones with Kefka

StrixVaria

@WorldEngineer Ah ok. I like that one then.

badp

FALSE DICHOTOMY IS FALSE

StrixVaria

I never got into VI.

V > VIII > others.

badp

Okay how about this: Chrono Trigger

best final fantasy

StrixVaria

00:05

Chrono Trigger is bad.

Honest opinion.

user15026

I couldn't really get into Chrono Trigger

user20683

Chrono Trigger was meh

badp

Chrono Trigger's floating tower of doom and pain is made of doom and pain

user20683

Chrono Cross was better

user20683

kinda

user20683

00:06

sorta

user20683

maybe

badp

but I enjoyed it thoroughly and, unlike the other games we're talking about here, it's the only one I actually could bring myself to finish

(although I don't have FF8 and haven't played Chrono Cross.)

user20683

Xenogears I've got somewhere

user20683

never did finish that

user15026

keeping in mind that I've only really dabbled in any other FF games, am I going to hate myself, storywise, jumping to this/

user20683

00:07

punishingly hard toward the end

user20683

8 has mostly smooth difficulty curve

StrixVaria

FF8's story is kind of wonky, but it's not even close to as wonky as FF7's story.

So if your choice is between those two, 8 is better.

user15026

But I dont miss anything having not really played the others?

user20683

@StrixVaria Your best one?

Braiam

way too much blue in The Bridge

StrixVaria

00:09

@AshleyNunn No, each one is an entirely separate world and continuity.

user15026

(Also this fills me with hope that all of y'all can answer the bazillion questions I am bound to have)

user15026

@StrixVaria Eeeeexcellent

StrixVaria

There are some back-references you'll miss but the main plots are all completely fine to play in any order you want.

Braiam

meh, if you plan to follow the plot you will fail... miserably

user15026

@agent86 There a a shitload of these weird games. My phone is convinced I will like them.

Origami Robot

00:10

I can't be friends with @strix anymore

user15026

@OrigamiRobot Oh?

Yuki

Oh god, some of you mods need to make like real mods and become inactive. I can't handle this much blue.

4

MBraedley

Okay, Tokarski, you did well last game, let's hope you're just as good this game.

Origami Robot

He knows what he did

user15026

@Yuki Nooooooooooooooooooooo

StrixVaria

00:11

@OrigamiRobot Frog is dumb.

Just like everything in that game.

user15026

@MBraedley Was it you that said you were cheering for the Edmonton Oil Kings in the MemCup?

MBraedley

Hey, no taking back stars like that!

badp

So to substantiate what I said

Origami Robot

You are wrong and dumb. Qed

MBraedley

@AshleyNunn well, I was cheering for not Val D'Or

Yuki

00:12

@AshleyNunn So, I got a box of pocky that I promised I wouldn't start eating until tomorrow.

I have... five sticks left.

badp

Especially if you're looking for story over gameplay you can turbo+A 98% of the battles in Chrono Trigger, which means shorter waiting between cutscenes

user15026

@MBraedley Well, I am delightfully cheery because BOTH Guelph and London lost, and Val D'Or lost, so yay all around!

user15026

@Yuki haha sounds like you have my willpower.

user15026

What kind of Pocky?

user15026

OKAY BRIDGE I AM GETTING VIII

user15026

00:14

IF IT SUCKS I BLAME YOU

MBraedley

@AshleyNunn 8 what?

user15026

@MBraedley Final Fantasy VIII

badp

The serious problem with FF6 is that at the very end it expects you to take on the final area with 12 out of your 14 characters, and that's if you have the extra optional ones

The serious problem with FF7 is that they even bothered to put a level 4 limit for Aerith in the game

In both cases I have to choose between extreme pain and missing out

StrixVaria

@OrigamiRobot meab

badp

And for FF8 from what I've read completely unbinding spells and casters sounds extremely dumb

Yuki

00:17

@AshleyNunn Some kind of vanilla chocolate?

badp

I don't appreciate that in FF7 either

StrixVaria

FF8's magic system is easily manipulable, but if you don't spend too long min/maxing and just mess around with it for fun it winds up being pretty neat.

badp

that leaves me with my final suggestion to @AshleyNunn for best Final Fantasy: Earthbound, and then Mother 3

user15026

@badp I have Earthbound on an emulator, I keep forgetting about it

badp

Earthbound changes how you take pictures forever

Yuki

00:25

I should play Earthbound again. I barely remember it.

user15026

Is it ridiculous that I want this?

MBraedley

@AshleyNunn I don't think so

badp

@yuki Mr Saturn yes?

user15026

@MBraedley Oh good

badp

00:30

If you feel like the story in Earthbound is too silly for you to stomach, you could just skip to Mother 3... but then you wouldn't be able to go back

user15026

@badp nah, I liked it, I just get SUPER distractifyed

badp

Mushroom on head?

Yuki

Anybody feel like entering this (chrome://inducebrowsercrashforrealz) in their Chrome browser? Warning, do not do this if you have tabs open that you want to keep.

user15026

@Yuki Why would I?

user20683

@Yuki I don't use Chrome

Yuki

00:32

@AshleyNunn Well, it's kinda self-explanatory. I just want to see if it works and am too chicken to test it out on myself.

Ktash

@AshleyNunn Yes. Because it is totally mine

badp

@yuki it auto completes, so it probably works

MBraedley

@Yuki yep, it crashed Chrome for iPad

Ktash

@Yuki It does work

user15026

@Yuki It does what it says on the tin, even if I do it in a different chrome window from my active one.

badp

00:34

Same on Android

Ktash

The z really lets it know you're serious

badp

I suppose it's good ole (void *) 0 = 0?

or whatever the relevant C abomination was

MBraedley

@badp I don't think that will compile.

Pretty sure you can't cast a literal L-value

badp

It was in the Allegiance source code

I forget the precise syntax

When it got caught red handed with an unrecoverable exception it just wrote 0 to the null pointer

MBraedley

Actually, I don't think you can cast any L-value.

badp

00:39

There were a lot of crashes by access violations, unsurprisingly enough

I think the lvalue was wrapped in enough parentheses that it didn't matter

MBraedley

Yeah, you start wrapping it in parens, it becomes an expression

Although assigning to an expression when not dealing with structs or classes is difficult to begin with.

RedRiderX

Found the photosphere mode on the Android camera app, had to try it out today.

My backyard, pretty much. (be sure to click through to the panorama.)

The panorama stuff worked a lot better on my N7

Also I should get a tripod

MBraedley

@RedRiderX that picnic table does not seem to be structurally sound...

RedRiderX

1 min ago, by RedRiderX

Also I should get a tripod

user15026

That was neat. :) Although I am kinda wondering about the Escher-esque picnic table :P

user15026

00:49

@RedRiderX Ah, that would do it

RedRiderX

It was pretty much the perfect day to do it

user15026

Looks like you had awesome weather :)

MBraedley

Oh, someone remind me to take my steel toe boots tomorrow.

RedRiderX

@MBraedley Take your steel toe boots tomorrow

@AshleyNunn Oh yeah it's been the best this yeat

badp

@mbr unfortunately trac does not allow me to do regular expression searches across the entirety of a repository!

user15026

00:55

I was on a lunch boat cruise today and it was fantastically nice out

user15026

it was pretty nice

RedRiderX

@AshleyNunn Oh wow

user15026

Even if I don't super like boats

RedRiderX

What's a lunch boat?

Frank

So much good foooooood.

user15026

00:55

@RedRiderX It was a boat cruise that offered me a lunch

user15026

and the lunch was yum

RedRiderX

Woah

badp

@ash next time try doing the same but late in the evening

RedRiderX

Google is making panoramas out of disparate photos I'm taking.

user15026

One of my relatives turned 90 this year and was like LETS PARTY so we did the lunch thing today and it was cool

user15026

00:56

@badp I've always thought that would be neat

badp

I can almost guarantee you'll have neck pain by the amount of ensuing star gazing

Which means I don't guarantee it

user15026

That sounds AWESOME

badp

But hey! It's pretty much the best way to be far away from human lighting without subjecting yourself to long trips on top of mountain peaks

user15026

@badp My parents place is pretty good for star gazing, especially if you walk a couple km from their house

user15026

then it is like OMG SKY FULL OF STARS

badp

00:59

I guess you trade car sickness with boat sickness

agent86

@AshleyNunn you must have little mermaid nose adventure installed.

badp

"Oh my god it's full of 180 degrees turns"

user15026

@agent86 I do not! (Trust me you would know, I manage to find ways to ask questions about almost anything)

agent86

I put Threes and also Monument Valley on my phone today because free amazon coins or whatever

woooooo

free games

badp

Threes for free?

user15026

01:00

@badp Eh, getting to my parents house isn't too bad, they're not far from me

agent86

Frees

badp

You are an awful human being

user15026

and they live in a valley so I just need to walk up a couple of giant hills

agent86

actually, I'm an awesome human being, but thanks for your opinion.

user15026

then it is EMPTY FARMLAND FOR MILES

agent86

01:01

I took money from amazon, and I gave it to indie developers. I'm the opposite of evil.

user15026

aka space to plop with a blanket (and maybe another preferably cuddleable human....@WorldEngineer take note) and watch stars be all star like

Yuki

@AshleyNunn Best stargazing ever.

agent86

I am appstore Robin Hood

Yuki

11 hours ago, by Yuki

> Good thing I've got these jars of peanut butter to go with ALL MY F--KING JELLY.

user15026

@Yuki It's pretty fun. Funner with a cuddle-human but my CUDDLE HUMAN IS FAR AWAY RIGHT NOW sad

user15026

01:02

@Yuki Well, maybe you should come visit.

user15026

:P

agent86

SE chat three-way? I'll have to prep the wide angle lenses.

user15026

@agent86 Only if I manage to get @WorldEngineer and @yuki in my space at once

user15026

:P

agent86

make notes, @badp, we've got to up our creepy peeping tom game here.

user15026

01:03

@agent86 psh, he's already got my house under full surveillance

user20683

walks in

Yuki

@AshleyNunn Should I be feeling flattered that I'm being considered for a three-way?

user20683

walks out

agent86

yeah, I had to take some of his cameras down to make room for more of mine. dude doesn't even have HD, let alone 4k :/

user15026

@WorldEngineer noooo cuddle human come baaaaaack

user15026

01:04

@Yuki giggles i dunno, are you? ;)

Ktash

@AshleyNunn I feel so left out

Yuki

@AshleyNunn I don't know. I haven't been in this situation before.

badp

Not my fault that the kinect v2 only came out now

You find me good 3D cameras

agent86

@badp brings all new meaning to the term 'xbone'

badp

...three years ago

user15026

01:04

@badp And I don't have an xbox!

GnomeSlice

@agent86 wtf

agent86

don't ask me man, they're talking about some kind of cuddles.

badp

@ash just the kinect cameras are good enough

agent86

spent like 10 minutes debugging a script to realize I was logged into the wrong box. fml.

badp

The 3D image feeds mean I can literally look at the place from virtually any angle!!

agent86

01:06

I HAVE BATMANZ

badp

Combine with the oculus rift for best results

agent86

I am seriously considering signing up for marvel unlimited or whatever

all these marvel movies are making me interested in the comics

Ktash

@agent86 I did a couple weeks ago

agent86

and probably in a couple of months I could read everything I could possibly want

user15026

I find the style of comics awkward to read

agent86

01:07

@Ktash is it well organized? I worry I'll be lost in all the timelines and crossovers and stuff

Ktash

@agent86 Unfortunately, not

user15026

I want to read them but I just....I dunno

Ktash

@agent86 That's the biggest problem

it's not organized at all

it's hard to find the right place to start

agent86

@Ktash why not :(

badp

►

agent86

01:07

@Ktash bummer :(

RedRiderX

►

Ktash

and when you do, there is a chance you will be left out in the cold halfway through a storyline because the rest is in a comic not yet added

I was disappointed

it has so much potential, but I don't think it is there yet

agent86

even like older stuff?

Yuki

@agent86 Yeah. I used to recommend Ultimates to people who didn't want to bother with the timeline BS, but even that universe is starting to get tangled up too.

RedRiderX

Big Rig Racing has a strong competitor.

Yuki

01:08

At this point, just watch the movies. I'll let you know if they make any obscure references.

agent86

I thought they had all the stuff more than 6 mos old available, but not really?

blargh

Ktash

@agent86 Yeah. I was trying to read through some Spiderman from 90s and a few comics in it is like "Continued in Peter Parker: Spiderman" which is not on there

agent86

way to not get my money, marvel.

badp

If you can do that with 3 kinects v1, just imagine the quality once I upgrade @ashley's eleventy cameras to full HD kinect v2's

agent86

well, glad I asked you guys cause I was pretty close to dropping $10

user15026

01:10

@badp I will be doomed

Ktash

@agent86 It's not terrible. There were a few storm comics which were really cool. But I wouldn't do it until it gets better

Too disorganized and incomplete

agent86

@Ktash roger that.

I don't really have time for it right now, even. I was just intrigued after seeing the new xmen movie.

badp

@ash in glorious 3D

We will have to make a special YouTube for just how much doomed you're going to be

So you can play the doom from all possible angles over and over again

Isn't the future amazing?

:D

user15026

So much amazing

Ktash

If you're interested in the cool Storm comics, these are them

The days of future past storyline is on unlimited, though

haven't figured out if I'm going to read it before I see the movie though

agent86

01:15

I don't think the movie hews that closely to the comics, tbh

I saw it on Friday

Ktash

Yeah, I doubt it does

agent86

it was good, but I'm a fan of the movies and know very little about the comics, so take that review from that perspective :)

continuity, even with the previous movies that it seems to be acknowledging, is thrown totally out the window

Yuki

Just stick to the movies, I'd say. They cost too much to make for there to be the rampant editmongering that occurs in the comics.

Fluttershy

I'm about to get into comics! :D A friend of mine is sending me nearly everything Marvel's done since 2012.

Ktash

BTW, here's the best guide I've found for Unlimited. And it's not that great

Also, I really want it to be like Netflix and let me pick up where I left off, but it doesn't. It has a terrible system for continuing to read stuff

gah, sorry, I'll stop. Bottom line is wait at the very least

agent86

01:19

:(

MBraedley

There should be a new rule in the NHL next year: knocking down a goalie after they make a save, even if the whistle hasn't been blown and even if it's accidental, is a 5 minute major for roughing.

user15026

@MBraedley Uh, I vote yes on this proposal

RedRiderX

@badp That... really does feel a little bit like the future.

Very cool

FEichinger

@badp

MBraedley

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAALLLL!!!!!!!

@AshleyNunn and similar penalty for knocking a skater into the net. If the league wants to be serious about player safety, they have to penalize risky behaviour

user15026

01:25

@MBraedley True that.

GnomeSlice

@RedRiderX Hahaha, I laughed so hard when air control got greenlit

Lazers

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user15026

I mean heck in the OHL they have made so many more rules for safety. I mean some of them came because a Kitchener player got a check to the head that resulted in major brain injury.

user15026

But at least they REALIZED an changed some rules

GnomeSlice

Also I feel like Ascendant is a game that a lot of bridgefolk would really enjoy. It reminds me of Risk of Rain in many ways

Yuki

01:29

This looks interesting.

cc @AshleyNunn

Ktash

> Downloading copyrighted material may be illegal in your country. Use at your own risk.

Hahaha

GnomeSlice

i just had a very good idea fora feature request on meta stackexchange

RedRiderX

@Yuki IT CAME BACK

Yuki

@AshleyNunn Also interesting for you book-lovers, in case you didn't know about it already.

RedRiderX

Cool

It fell off the map a while ago

user20683

01:30

Okay, poll: Planescape Torment

user20683

Good for @AshleyNunn or no?

user20683

I think yes

user20683

I think she would enjoy

user20683

What do you guys think?

user15026

@Yuki oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo yes this makes me SOOOOOOOOOOOOO happy

Yuki

01:32

Also, want US Netflix?

Here, have US Netflix.

user15026

@Yuki I have an essentially universal proxy thingie that I pay $5 for a month, so I am good

Ben Brocka

@AshleyNunn 8

Yuki

@AshleyNunn ... Is it Media Hint?

GnomeSlice

media hint is free innit?

user15026

@Yuki Nope, unblock-us. (Allows me to choose which country I want to be for anything at any time, which works for me)

Yuki

01:35

@GnomeSlice They've started charging.

RedRiderX

@Yuki When it comes to actually obtaining copies, it's kind of meh.

Yuki

But there is a workaround.

RedRiderX

I had high hopes, but it's curenlty meh

user15026

(and unlike a lot of free things, actually lets me do that for Netflix, which a lot of them throttle)

user15026

@RedRiderX I tend to stick with my local library's Overdrive offerings

GnomeSlice

01:35

huh

user15026

even if the DRM makes me want to throw rocks

RedRiderX

@AshleyNunn Ugh Overdive

I don't even bother

Remember that one time I tried to bother?

user15026

@RedRiderX I just break my way through things.

RedRiderX

That's why I don't bother

Ktash

oh bother

GnomeSlice

01:36

^ that better be winnie the pooh

close enough

user15026

@Ktash I have seen this before and it made me giggle insanely

Ktash

@AshleyNunn I was trying to find the oh bother scene

update :)

GnomeSlice

giggle an insane amount? or giggle like you were insane?

MBraedley

The fourth issue of Ms. Marvel isn't out yet? Boo-urns. Mind you I have a backlog of other comics to read.

user15026

@GnomeSlice amount, not quality

Ktash

01:40

@MBraedley Is that one good? I've heard good things and really have been eying it

MBraedley

@Ktash yeah, I'm enjoying it. I prefer a cleaner art style, but that's about my only complaint.

Ktash

@MBraedley Alright, I think I'll bite the bullet on it then

MBraedley

@Ktash if you haven't seen the idea channel episode about it, I would suggest watching it. I was always planning on reading the series, but I was convinced to read it as the issues came out.

spugsley

HELLO LOVELIES

Ktash

@spugsley Hey that includes me!

Hi

spugsley

01:52

hi :D

MBraedley

Hmm, I said I'd be in at work tomorrow by 8. Should I head to bed now, or stay up and watch the rest of the game?

user15026

Okay, because I am super confused - I am playing Torchlight, and have two options - I can use two different one handed weapons, each with 78 damage, or one twohanded with 88 damage....wouldn't it be better to use the two, or is the damage not additive (aka not 78+78)?

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