The Bridge

Panic Bomb

21:00

> Upon ending the Time of Suffering, Jafan established a unified kingdom at Theed and the Great Time of Peace ensued. The Jafan Dynasty would reign in peace for centuries until the death of Queen Yram, when the citizens of Naboo appointed the first non-hereditary monarch.[source?] Henceforth, the monarch of Naboo remained an elected official, maintaining residence at the Royal Palace in Theed during their four-year terms.

my eyes glazed over just reading that, but it may be relevant

Yuki

I'm just using Naboo as an easily-related example case for the difference between monarchy and dictatorship.

badp

@Yuki Well my memory is fairly fuzzy but the dictator in Rome was quite a different thing than what we mean today

Unionhawk

The literal meaning of the word boils down to "dude who is in charge to the degree that he gets to say 'This is what we are doing'"

Yuki

@badp Yeah, an elected leader who was given complete and absolute power/rule for two years, I think? In times of crisis?

badp

Basically Rome elected two consuls per year (I think) who acted as sort-of elected monarchs, each keeping the other in check. When things got dire and shit hit the fan, the consuls could elect a third person as dictator and he'd be effectively the indirectly-elected monarch

give or take 20%

like, 1 in 5 of those words is wrong

probably more

Yuki

21:03

Essentially, my question is about hereditary vs elected rule.

badp

So yeah, there's no trace of hereditary anything here

Yuki

And whether that distinguishes a dictatorship from a monarchy.

badp

I don't even believe the roman emperors were hereditary? or am I wrong?

Unionhawk

Elective monarchy

An elective monarchy is a monarchy ruled by an elected monarch, in contrast to a hereditary monarchy in which the office is automatically passed down as a family inheritance. The manner of election, the nature of candidate qualifications, and the electors vary from case to case. Historically it is not uncommon for elective monarchies to transform into hereditary ones over time, or for hereditary ones to acquire at least occasional elective aspects. Evolution Many, if not most, kingdoms were officially elective historically, though the candidates were typically only from the family of t...

badp

I might be wrong on that one

Unionhawk

21:04

Welp

That certainly complicates things.

Panic Bomb

I don't feel like "dictatorship" has anything really to do with heredity or the lack thereof

They seem like orthagonal concepts

badp

Mind you - while the consuls theoretically could've chosen any one as Monarch, at the end of the day there were only so many families that mattered

so in a way the political system as a whole was fairly hereditary

Yuki

@panic Well, both monarchies and dictatorships give absolute rule to their heads of state. So what else differentiates the two?

badp

@Yuki I think the only time Rome had a king was at the very early times

Panic Bomb

@Yuki I feel like anything that has true "absolute rule" is by definition a dictatorship

Yuki

21:05

Other than the way they (theoretically) gain power?

badp

@Yuki there's also the length-of-time thing

Dictators were temporary

Yuki

@panic But the definition of a monarchy is a king/queen that maintains absolute rule over their population.

badp

seems pretty fundamental to me, too.

Unionhawk

I feel like a Dictator is generally more of a military ruler

spugsley

OKAY BRIDGE

Unionhawk

21:07

Like, in both the Roman sense and the modern sense

spugsley

I need to write for the next half hour on something that isn't smut. Keep me accountable. GO!

Yuki

GB is not a traditional monarchy. Or at least it isn't anymore.

badp

@spugsley I'M HAPPY TO SEE YOU ARE OKAY

spugsley

@badp DONT LIE NO YOU AREN'T

badp

@spugsley YES I AM PEOPLE ARE HAPPIER WHEN THEIR FRIENDS ARE HAPPY

AND ACQUAINTANCES

AND FRENEMIES

AND OTHER ASSORTED RANDOM PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET

spugsley

21:08

omg

Yuki

@badp But okay != happy...

badp

@Yuki it probably means at least content

spugsley

SERIOUSLY WRITING NOW

Panic Bomb

@spugsley So should we just keep pinging you "ARE YOU WRITING" every 15 seconds or what?

spugsley

@PanicBomb No one talk to me for the next 30 mins even if I try to get you to talk to me. IGNORE ME AND CRY IF I STOP WRITING

Panic Bomb

21:09

lol

spugsley

DOC OPEN

badp

@PanicBomb I think the proper question given the "no smut" proposition is "ARE THEY HUMPING YET?"

spugsley

5:09. GO!

Yuki

I always interpreted "okay" as a state of good physical condition whereas "happy" is a completely mental condition.

badp

@Yuki both are good!

agent86

21:11

Yuki

For example, an injury may effect a bad mental condition (not happy) but you can still be happy while injured (as unlikely as that is). However, you can't be okay while injured in my interpretation.

Today's accomplishment: used "effect" as a verb correctly.

badp

@Yuki If you are "happy" but not "okay" I won't be as "happy" by reflection

YOU MIGHT DIE HAPPY BUT YOU WILL STILL BE DEAD

that's still kind of a downer.

Yuki

That's my point, isn't it?

badp

I didn't take the scare quotes off

Yuki

@ash I used "effect" as a verb correctly! Or at least I think I did!

spugsley

21:14

omg...Tumblr is open

...........................I.....can't.....focus

Yuki

Sadly, nobody tried to correct me.

Panic Bomb

Did you just have that XKCD comic ready and waiting?

Unionhawk

I couldn't be asked to correct such an obscure thing as that.

Fluttershy

@spugsley YOU CAN DO IT

agent86

look CATS

Fluttershy

21:15

Close tumblr!

agent86

there were cute CATS PEOPLE

Yuki

@panic No, I just know the definitions.

agent86

>:|

SaintWacko

@Frank That compact belt setup I showed you earlier would also allow you to access 4 separate components from a single side of an assembler

Yuki

At least this means the Bridge doesn't have any overreacting grammar Nazis, I guess. Which is always a good thing.

Frank

21:17

@SaintWacko From a single side?

How do you take into account item randomness?

SaintWacko

@Frank Yeah. With only two inserters

@Frank There's no randomness

Frank

@SaintWacko Whenever I throw two things on one side of a belt, it's usually because an assembler needs both items, and doesn't need to be picky.

SaintWacko

One side of the belt is for one item, one side for the other

badp

are they humping yet?

SaintWacko

@Frank Each side of the belt would only have one item

Frank

21:18

Oh, a single side of an assembler.

SaintWacko

@Frank Ah, yeah

Frank

Yeah, that's easy. Two belts, one long-arm inserter.

SaintWacko

@Frank That's one way to do it. This way is more compact

Frank

@SaintWacko You'll need to screenie it for me, then.

SaintWacko

It would take a lot of pre-planning

Lazers

21:20

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Q: Getting back in the waste exchange in batman arkham city.

How would I get back into the waste exchange after the tower has been blown up?

batman-arkham-city

Frank

@SaintWacko I'm not sure how your setup would allow four items on a single side that's more compact than two belts side by side.

SaintWacko

@Frank building it now. I'll show you in a second

@Frank there

And it's extensible

Fluttershy

Humble Daily Bundle, new bundles every day.

SaintWacko

Wow. Quite compactly extensible, actually

When that's extended, it will have 100% density

Yuki

@flutter Isn't that the definition of daily? Happening every day?

agent86

21:32

lifehack: buy humble bundles to save money on games

Fluttershy

@Yuki Maybe.

Yuki

Corrected lifehack: buy humble bundles to save money on games you'll never play.

cc @Sterno

Panic Bomb

lifehack: put the milk carton in the fridge and save the rest for next time rather than dumping out whatever amount you can't drink.

agent86

I have played like... almost all my humble bundle games

I FOR ONE PLAN TO BUY MANY MORE HUMBLE BUNDLES AND THEREFORE GET MORE GAMES

badp

Lifehack: beds are more comfortable to sleep than rocks

agent86

21:34

LIFE: HACKED

SaintWacko

badp

@agent86 HA! BUT TODAY'S A RERUN!

agent86

@badp :(

SaintWacko

@frank it's a little hard to see, but that's the planned extension of it

agent86

@SaintWacko what game is this?

SaintWacko

21:35

@agent86 Factorio

agent86

@SaintWacko I kind of want to make a game like this at some point.

spugsley

DONE 5:39

I DID IT!

badp

@spugsley Was there any humping?

Origami Robot

Whoa, wtf

spugsley

@badp Zero!

Origami Robot

21:44

I agree with @Chippies, this damage boost is weird

Like, a 50% increase.

Chippies

@OrigamiRobot I'm sure the source could be found somewhere, I wasn't really fussy about finding it though

my increase was more like 10-20%, not 50 though

Origami Robot

ok, maybe more like 30-40%, but still

spugsley

HOLY SHIT

I just

Chippies

@OrigamiRobot are you using any of the buffed items?

spugsley

omg

the email I just got

is HUGE news

Fluttershy

21:46

@spugsley Go on.

spugsley

"Hi Samantha!
I just had a meeting with the folks at the gallery and we all love your work and agree that the following photo would be a nice image to represent the Broken Light Collective exhibit… as the title image! What do you think?? I hope you love that idea too! That means it would be on the marketing materials (postcards, evite, etc.) and a poster outside the gallery with the event info! And you of course will be credited throughout!"

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EXHIBIT. My photo is the FUCKING TITLE IMAGE

Chippies

@spugsley congrats!

Panic Bomb

Nice!

spugsley

holy shit

Chippies

do you get a small fortune?

spugsley

21:47

wow

hahaha no. Actually anything that I make from this image goes 100% to mental health awareness/research

John

@spugsley I express my "yay" through the stars.

Origami Robot

@Chippies My offhand had +9% damage which resulted in +200 average base damage on that weapon, but that can't be everything translating to this ~200k sheet dps increase

Chippies

ah, oh well, at least your name is getting out there

spugsley

dis guy :3

Chippies

@OrigamiRobot any of your passives got buffed maybe?

Origami Robot

21:49

Nope

SaintWacko

@spugsley That's so cool!

Arperum

@spugsley Nice picture indeed!

Fluttershy

@spugsley I totally guessed that based on the name of the site. :P

Chippies

I guess the only thing I can think of is that they changed something that wasn't mentioned in patch notes

spugsley

@Fluttershy :D

Yuki

21:49

WHOOOOOOOO @SPUGSLEY WHOOOOOOOOOO

spugsley

I am literally shaking

I can't believe this

It's an exhibit in NEW YORK FUCKING CITY

Yuki

LOUD CELEBRATORY NOISES!!!!

SaintWacko

FIREWORKS!!!!

@spugsley Wow!

Yuki

@SPUGSLEY IS SO INTERNET FAMOUS, SHE'S REAL LIFE FAMOUS NOW.

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Arperum

Also @spugsley: I'll get to buying one of your pictures once I've properly moved, I have to leave this house by the end of the month, don't want to risk it ending up in a house where I don't live and I somehow not getting it.

Chippies

21:51

@OrigamiRobot is %damage supposed to apply to weapon or total? I would think total

Yuki

I WOULD STAR YOUR ANNOUNCEMENT MESSAGE BUT I CAN'T BECAUSE MOBILE CHAT IS TERRIBLE AND COMPARABLE TO HITLER IN THAT REGARD.

spugsley

@Yuki :DDDDDD

Origami Robot

@Chippies On weapons it only applies to the base damage of that weapon

spugsley

omg I gotta title it but I'm so bad at titles

Chippies

@OrigamiRobot has that been mentioned anywhere on legit sources or is that what people say?

badp

21:53

"come out kitty kitty kitty"

spugsley

lol

Origami Robot

@Chippies That's the way it has worked forever.

Yuki

YOU SHOULD TITLE IT "HOLY INTERNET FAME, BATMAN!".

Chippies

@OrigamiRobot mkay then.

I should log on monk and see if he got some huge damage buff

spugsley

It sounds cheesy but I'm goign to go with what my gut tells me

Origami Robot

21:54

The simplest explanation is that I am simply misremembering my previous damage

spugsley

Into the Unknown

badp

"into"?

Chippies

nope, my monk is same'ish

badp

It looks more like "The Unknown stares back at you"

but hey! I'm not the author!

Yuki

OR YOU COULD TITLE IT "@SPUGSLEY INTO DARKNESS" AND HAVE PEOPLE DISCUSS WHETHER THERE SHOULD BE A COMMA AND HOW IT SHOULD BE CAPITALIZED.

spugsley

21:56

@Yuki HAHAHAHAHAHA

badp

@Yuki what wait who why would you put a comma there

spugsley

I could name it #spugsley into darkness

that'll really creep them out

Arperum

@Yuki WHat about "Bridge: After Dark."

Yuki

I EXPECT AT LEAST 200 PAGES ON THE WIKIPEDIA TALK PAGE.

spugsley

how about SHE WHO HAS A THOUSAND MOUTHS

Panic Bomb

21:56

@Arperum gross

Chippies

hashtag deep

Yuki

@BADP COLON. AUTO-CORRECT SUCKS.

spugsley

NO

Facing the Unknown

way better

Arperum

@spugsley Yes.

spugsley

I got there eventually :p

Chippies

21:57

@spugsley I like that one

badp

How about NONAME92.JPG

Yuki

THE EXHIBIT SHOULD ALSO GUEST STAR BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH.

Panic Bomb

@badp Seven blank spaces.

Arperum

@badp 421 IS SUPERIOR.

badp

gives off that kind of Photoshop 1.0 vibe

Chippies

21:58

@badp Untitled592.jpg you meant

badp

sorry, it wasn't 8.3

Panic Bomb

"Copy of lantern_copy.bmp.jpg"

spugsley

omg you guys are awful lol

badp

@PanicBomb "COPYOF~4.TIF"

Yuki

I STILL BELIEVE "@SPUGSLEY INTO DARKNESS" IS A GREAT TITLE.

aaaand i'm gonna stop yelling now.

badp

22:00

@Yuki I still don't think you want to offer "haters" such a prominent channel to send surely highly intelligent and quite constructive internet critique to @spugsley

So I'd avoid the at- and pound signs :)

Panic Bomb

"@BADP INTO DARKNESS", a tribute work

badp

@PanicBomb Only if there is a faint shadow of my avatar in that cave!!

and as always by "!!" I mean I'm not serious :P

Frank

@SaintWacko Ah, going down in one, and coming up in the other. Makes sense.

Not sure if you really need to compact it that much, though.

Yuki

I don't think naming a state as "not running" is particularly useful when your other states are "running" and "suspended".

badp

@Yuki Well if you're talking about processes, suspended processes are kind of still running, just they have nothing to actually run as they wait for an interrupt or data from the OS

Yuki

22:03

"Terminated" is perhaps a better name.

badp

@Yuki So what do you call something that hasn't entered the running state yet?

Is there any reason to keep this state separate from "Terminated"?

Yuki

Doesn't look like it.

At least not from this lifecycle diagram.

badp

I guess you could instead go for something like "unloaded" or "uninitialized"

Yuki

I just think that "not running" is a terrible name for this state.

As "A" and "not A" imply an all-encompassing set.

Probably using the terminology incorrectly.

Unionhawk

"not running" would technically any other possible state other than "running", I guess

I accidentally a word. cba

Lazers

22:10

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Q: TPPI Server wont' play nicely with my client

I'm attempting to setup a TPPI server, and for the life of me I can't get the dam thing to work. Everytime I try to login I get a client message about pr_100v. My console reports a large list of mods this way: The version I'm attempting is 1.0.2. These mods are present and the versions matc...

minecraft minecraft-feed-the-beast

badp

@Yuki if you decide to reject the given terminology and replace it with your own, I don't think it's going to be a problem so long as you can map it to what the professor (and others) will expect

Yuki

Oh, this isn't a class per say. I'm looking over material for the Windows 8.1 Store Apps certification.

By the way, my dad calls them "A.P.Ps" instead of "apps". It's kinda funny.

badp

Applications Packaged for People

remember when we called them programs?

Yuki

Apps Packaged for People?

badp

A.P.P.s Packaged Program

Yuki

22:16

Random thought: I need to use the following sentence someday, "it's one of those redundant terminologies like ATM number or PIN machine".

FEichinger

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Fluttershy

@Yuki You want people to think you have RAS syndrome or something?

Origami Robot

@Fluttershy ...

spugsley

omg today is the best day

I'm just asddsg;lfdkghh

Fluttershy

Oh, speaking of today, my interview went well!

spugsley

22:21

OMG YAY!

I'm so glad!!!!!!

Frank

...D3 just crashed on me

James

@FEichinger This is indeed the only appropriate response to that statement.

Blem

@Frank a sign that you should go to bed

Frank

@Blem I just got home from work!

James

@spugsley There is a joke in here some where about having an awesome photograph's proceeds go to a foundation for mental awareness :D

Blem

22:26

@Frank then you will be ready for another day of work tomorrow

Frank

And I have a hot date tonight, so no to that.

Blem

you go out with your oven?

spugsley

@James lol like what?

James

@spugsley I dunno, maybe more funds need to be raised but its making me grin like there should be a joke in there!! :D

Frank

@Blem Hamstare @Blem

...No?

Blem

22:27

:D

spugsley

@James it's something I take really seriously so I hope it's not a bad/mean joke :(

Frank

Dammit, @fredley what did you do to your script?

James

@spugsley Haha, No nothing I say should ever really be taken seriously :)

Origami Robot

@Frank us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/12674629695

Blem

3ventic

22:33

@Blem ...

spugsley

holy shit guys

they just told me the actual gallery name

it's a huge mental health non-profit

Lady Gaga and Glen Close both do work for them.

like. This is fucking real as shit

O_O

I'm freaking out

Yuki

You should totally get pictures.

Arperum

@Yuki She did. Now she is getting into the pictures.

Blem

@spugsley If you meet Lady Gaga say hi from me

spugsley

@Blem haha unfortunately I'm not going to be able to go to the reception :(

it's all the way in NYC which is a bit too far of a drive and too expensive of a flight

Blem

22:41

:(

Origami Robot

@spugsley Tell them you want to go, but can't afford to. Maybe they'll help you out.

Yuki

Man, not having half your health is pretty intense. I haven't been this Hollow in a long time.

cc @3ventic

RedRiderX

NOW TO FINISH E11

DONT WORRY NO SPOILERS THO

Frank

►

cc @SAO lovers

Yuki

JUST YOU TALKING ABOUT DATA AND HIS USUAL SHENANIGANS.

@frank I kinda liked it when I was reading the LN and just lost all interest when the anime started. I have no clue why.

Frank

22:49

@Yuki The game looks pretty decent.

RedRiderX

@Frank OH DANG

Yuki

Honestly, a SAO game that isn't an MMO just feels wrong.

RedRiderX

Also no permadeath

Yuki

Is it an MMO?

RedRiderX

@Yuki No

Frank

22:50

@Yuki I wouldn't want an MMO. It would make it seem too close.

All you need then is to get sucked in.

RedRiderX

It just plays like an MMORPG

Frank

And not be able to leave.

RedRiderX

@Frank Rift v3

Flagship Title: SAO: Deluxe

Frank

@RedRiderX I would so buy that.

Threat of permadeath and brain frying notwithstanding.

Yuki

The one question I have for every MMORPG is this: is crafting interesting and can I play through the game by only crafting?

RedRiderX

22:52

Wait actually that would be great

OH NOES THE CONVICT IS ESCAPING

Yuki

I know, right?

Frank

@Yuki For this one, no.

RedRiderX

@Frank Well there are merchants.

Fluttershy

Yuki

According to @frank, you can in FFXIV after the first ten levels or so.

Frank

22:54

@RedRiderX Yeah, but to progress (as in get higher), the bosses need to be beaten.

And since it's a single player game...

@Yuki Yep.

It'll be expensive, though.

RedRiderX

@Frank Oh well I mean if it was a SAO MMO

Braiam

@agent86 StinkingBadges is down, fix pls :P

RedRiderX

@Fluttershy ALL ABOARD THE CATBUS WHOO WHOO

Braiam

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RedRiderX

@Braiam Aren't you supposed to be using 3.0 or something anyway?

Frank

22:57

@RedRiderX True

Braiam

@RedRiderX no, only 1.0 and 1.1 were shutdown api.stackexchange.com/docs/api-v1-shutdown

RedRiderX

Oh wait that's 2.2 anyway

OH NOES THE CONVICT ESCAPED

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