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7:00 PM
Kiev is in Ukraine. I thought it was in Russia, so I was confused.
I know what's going on in the Ukraine.
 
@JasonSperske ask questions about problems you encounter while playing games. — Colin D 30 secs ago
This is really not the way it actually works.
 
@Wipqozn they want some of that account selling money
 
@Frank Ah okay
 
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@RedRiderX It's pretty messy.
 
Anyways, I have to go help move stuff for a friend! Back in a while!
 
7:01 PM
@AshleyNunn It seems like the politics that give rise to these conflicts always are.
 
@Wipqozn sounds fair, it is way lower than people selling the service and still high enough that most people won't be doing it all the time
 
@StrixVaria I know I'm stuck on it
 
@StrixVaria It had several games I was thinking about getting but didn't
 
@StrixVaria I think it's one of the best ones I've seen.
 
7:04 PM
Just bought it despite already owning Guacamelee and Antichamber.
 
Though Guacamelee has major stutter issues for me. I can't really play it with vsync on or off
 
I have all games above average but beat it anyway
Hopefully the bonus games will make it even awesomer.
 
The Swapper is a really good game.
 
It's so cheap but I feel bad about spending money on games I know I don't have time to play
 
Hopefully AMD's freesync materializes soon and doesn't suck, otherwise I may have to get a gsync card/monitors and I'll be pretty annoyed if I have to
 
7:05 PM
@GnomeSlice Mamota?
 
Actually gsync will still be useless when I want to play on TV so even that's not really a good option
 
@GnomeSlice Oh. Yes it is playable
Such physics
 
FAE
@BenBrocka Ack, really? I can't stand stuttering/tearing.
 
@FAE yeah it's really awful in guac for me, not sure why. Once a second it drops like 5 frames at once on vsync, and of course has major tearing without it
Even happens in window mode actually
 
FAE
@BenBrocka Nooooooooooo, I despise tearing. T_T
 
7:09 PM
Yeah, I don't think I can play it. Not sure if it's the game or my hardware or some interaction of the two though
 
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Q: Found city in desert hex or improveable tile beside desert hex?

MartinIn Civilization 5, given a situation where you have several desert hexes around a prospective founding location and a few non-desert hexes (e.g. grassland), is it better to found the city itself in one of the desert hexes and be able to immediately improve the grassland, or is it better to found ...

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Q: Found religion in capital or border city?

MartinIn my current Civ5 game, I have four cities relatively close to each other and I just got the first great prophet. Should I found the religion in my capital (most population atm.) or should I found it in a (well connected) "border city" several hexes to the north, which would be closer to my nea...

 
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I haven't fired it up yet, I'll have to check whenever I do.
 
PC really needs an end-all solution for tearing without v sync stuttering, and I'm not sure g sync is going to be it, being Nvidia only and only for some monitors. I really dont' want to rebuy 3 monitors and still be unable to use it for my TV anyway
 
FAE
Is there a way to change the SE chat notification ping through anything?
 
Was impressed with Giana Sisters so far. The world switching animations are great, gameplay very smooth
I just mute it because I hate it
 
7:12 PM
@FAE The sound bit?
 
bowmf
 
The little speaker in the top right turns it off
 
user15026
@FAE I now have one 1up mushroom and one red mushroom stitched and they look so cute :P (I am ridiculously proud of them)
 
FAE
@RedRiderX No, I need to change it, if possible.
@RedRiderX Jochem and I are in the same room and it's hard to tell who is getting pinged.
@AshleyNunn YAY
 
user15026
@RedRiderX I never noticed that til right now.
 
@Wipqozn Look, a deleted message you can't read!
 
Hello. Has anyone played Battlefield 4 on an IPS monitor (PC)
With HDMI preferably
If not I'd still like to know
 
Didn't you go crazy and break the world? I don't know if we should be helping you.
 
Or even Crysis.
@Sterno I'm about to either way :P
I am having a confusing problem here lol.
 
@Sterno it's not his fault the dark one tainted the bloody source
 
7:22 PM
I am trying to decide which colors are more natural. The one on my laptop or external monitor
 
@LewsTherin 0.5 world problems :P
 
@KevinvanderVelden But I could have stopped Mierin
 
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@John Yus, he answeres minecraft questions here and there
 
@FAE Ah okay
 
@James Lol.. well Ikr?
 
7:23 PM
@AshleyNunn Yeah I tried that a while back and couldn't get it to work
 
FAE
@AshleyNunn Thanks, I'll check that out!
 
I might have been doing it wrong though
 
@FAE Ah. Cool :D
 
I figured you guys will have proper monitors
 
user15026
Yeah, I have no idea if it works or anything, I've not used it.
 
7:24 PM
At least I hope so. Am I wrong?
 
@LewsTherin I have a wretched monitor which glows like a streetlamp at night
But it's a work machine so I can't put f.lux on it
 
I put f.lux machine at work. Different rules I guess
But I'm talking about monitors you guys game on now :P
 
@LewsTherin Oh yes
 
Ok has anyone here played Battlefield 4 at least?
 
the IT people would probably just look at me strange if I asked
 
7:26 PM
@RedRiderX :P
 
@LewsTherin IPS colors are better at an angle. Not sure there's much difference head-on. I have an IPS laptop but it's an old Tablet PC with that nasty rainbow-grain screen effect so it's not the best judge of color
 
@BenBrocka Yeah both monitors handle viewing angles well.
The problem is which color is natural
 
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@John He mostly hangs about in the Minecraft chat room
 
For example the home screen of BF 4 on the laptop monitor is blueish. However on the external IPS it is less blue
 
user15026
The only problem with having four different delicious cupcakes is that I am not sure which to eat first.
 
7:28 PM
The chat bar is a dark blue.. but it is lighter on the laptop monitor
 
@FAE ..........why did I never realize it was the same Jochem. I should've known this.
 
FAE
@LewsTherin Your laptop won't have an IPS screen though neh, just TN?
 
IPS has better color production, the main minuses are poor black level (TN doesn't have great black either) and input lag
 
@FAE Well if it is TN panel then it is a damn good one.
 
And colors can be different for reasons other than accuracy; could simply be how either monitor was set up or manufacturing oddities (diff production runs have slightly different colors)
@FAE laptops can have IPS
 
FAE
7:29 PM
@BenBrocka Jochem has my old IPS and his old TN, there's definitely a difference in color depth head on.
 
@FAE TNs also vary widely though
 
I just want to know what colors you guys are seeing when gaming
 
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@BenBrocka That's true. I prefer IPS screens because color depth and accurate reproduction is important to me for stuff like photography and whatnot.
@John Oh wow, haha, really?
 
I don't do pictures, in theory I would like IPS but they're not really worth the fuss until the lag is low and price is decent, currently takes a lot of fussing to try and find anything like that
 
7:32 PM
@FAE Yes, really. I feel rather dense now.
 
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@BenBrocka Lag's 5ms~ on mine, it's an important feature I look for considering gaming.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I see what you did there.
 
FAE
I've been pleased with both my LG IPS purchases.
Realistically, can't get the lag much lower than that atm for an IPS panel, that I've found at least (in my price range).
@John S'all good. :) But yes, same Jochem!
Ok, food now.
 
@John What can I say? I'm very fond of semicolons; they really do capture the rhythms of speech in punctuation in a way better than any comma, period, or exclamation might.
 
@FAE :D
@FAE double :D
 
7:34 PM
99% of the time, when someone on the internet misuses an ellipsis, it's because they didn't understand what a semicolon is for.
 
Semicolon is hard >.>
 
If I get new monitors they'll probably be 120hz, not sure IPS does that either. OLED would be sweet if they could get the price down. Though ideally they'd have to kill the dark splotch problem the Vita has, not sure if that's inherent to all OLEDs or just the Vita's
 
@John semicolon is easy!
 
So you guys going to tell me what color you see?
 
7:36 PM
@LewsTherin What do you mean?
 
@LewsTherin Colors...where?
If this is about BF4, I don't have it, so I can't help you :\
 
On chat for example
 
6 mins ago, by Lews Therin
I just want to know what colors you guys are seeing when gaming
 
Ok can you tell me the colors on chat.. light blue or dark blue?
dark grey or light grey?
 
7:37 PM
@LewsTherin screenie incoming
 
That may not help due to monitor differences but it is worth a shot ha
 
@LewsTherin good point
What I see is basically @GnomeSlice
 
The bottom area around the text entry is dark blue
 
@GnomeSlice Yeah I still can't tell.
 
7:38 PM
That is, light blue for my messages
 
@LewsTherin you mean your own speech bubbles? Definitely light blue. The scanlined part is dark blue
 
Messages you posted yourself are light blue
 
Medium gray for everyone else's messages
 
Color blindness?
 
Ok my laptop screen looks aqua
 
7:38 PM
room topic changed to The Bridge: General Arqade chat room. First rule is, we do not talk about games. Second rule is, we do not. talk. about. games. Third rule, if a joke says "stop" or goes limp, taps out hammertime. [+fun] [-context] [jin-fanclub] [lazers] [murder] [-pokemon]
 
So I'm guessing laptop screen has lighter colors
 
Fun has been reinstated, at the expense of Pokemon
 
...You guys
 
@LewsTherin Or it's just miscalibrated.
 
Or that yeah
 
@SaintWacko No, YOU guys.
 
Mmn let me see if I can change that
 
How on earth is a screenshot going to help him with colors?
 
features all colours of the rainbow
 
I don't even...
 
7:40 PM
3 mins ago, by Lews Therin
That may not help due to monitor differences but it is worth a shot ha
Thank you, we realized.
It was still worth a shot, as it could've ruled out the monitor if it was different
 
@badp MY MONITOR IS FULL OF JIN, GAMUT TEST PASSED
 
If you go on that site.. is the surrounding layer blue?
Oh nvm
Rendering delay
It was white
Actually this is a good test.
On that forum.. the guy in the hat
 
Good evening, folks!
 
I'm so angry I am literally in the hospital because I bonked my head while cheering Twitch Plays Pokemon this is so dumb
4
 
7:43 PM
What color is his hat? The OP profile pic
 
TPP is intense
 
@LewsTherin You can also use a smartphone app and it's camera to take the failures of your own eyes out of the picture. THX makes one for iOS and Android.
 
Danger: the current music in TPP is absolutely awful
 
TPP?
 
Twitch Plays Pokémon
The current theme is quite grating
Oh wait they left, er, lavender city?
 
7:47 PM
I think it's fine when it's not missing audio tracks
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Lol failures of your own eye? Hehe or I have such perfect eyes that I can notice slight differences :P
 
which the stupid gameboy does constantly
 
Uh.. one last thing (hopefully). If anyone is willing to help
If you go on google images
Can you tell me the color of the header layer?
I think this will tell me the answer
 
?
 
The color differences are greater here
 
7:49 PM
Dark grey?
 
The external monitor is light grey
 
@LewsTherin Would this help? snapfiles.com/get/nokiamonitortest.html
 
I will try it thanks
 
> Extras
Turn “moo can” on and tilt the iPhone or iPad to hear your device “moo”
Sold
 
Damn it. There is nothing worse I hate than architecture compatibility
 
7:56 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz No external hardware? I'd like to calibrate my monitors but fiddling with them never quite works and the dedicated color samplers are a bit much
 
@BenBrocka Looks like you need an HDMI->Phone cable but other than that, nope.
 
Send help, I'm trapped on snapfiles again
 
WHY WAS I NOT MADE AWARE OF THIS SOONER?
 
@Garan Of what?
 
Snapfiles.
 
8:03 PM
@Garan omg it's so addicting
 
It worked for you?
What architecture?
Oh
The actual site facepalm
 
@Wipqozn This answer makes me want to buy the game just to support the developer, even if I don't ever play it.
 
@StrixVaria Yeah, markets are a really nice idea.
 
So as I am new to this room, how literal is the "do not talk about games"?
Also, I was about to ask about that game. It looks astonishing.
 
@Garan Mostly a meta-joke.
We usually don't talk about games, but it's certainly not against the rules.
 
I need a second school house. My current one is maxed.
 
Ah, ok.
 
Did someone say games?! explodes
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I was surprised he enjoyed it considering he didn't enjoy the first one.
 
@Garan Which game?
 
8:09 PM
Banished
 
@Garan Oh, yeah, a bunch of people here are playing it, ask away.
 
How large is the map?
As in, that question was asking about off-shoot settlements.
 
@Garan I think there's different sizes you can choose from.
 
You can select between small, medium and large
I don't know exact sizes as I haven't beaten the tutorial yet, which I want to do before starting a game of my own
 
And how dangerous is it? As in, how likely are you to have all your villagers die from plague, starvation, wild animals, goblin invasion, cats...
(I went a bit DF there)
 
@Garan There's no combat in the game. Villagers can die from old age, starvation, the cold, and random accidents. I've had a few people die from child birth, and another die when a rock crushed them. I saw a Let's Player have someone die due to being trampled by a herd of cattle.
Oh, and diseases.
 
@Wipqozn No combat? Then how do you get Heads on Spikes
 
@Wipqozn Cool, cool. Sounds like a game in the vein of the Caesar and SimCity games.
 
@Sconibulus Imagination.
@Garan It's somewhere in-between Anno and Dwarf Fortress.
Anno being a city building game liek Caesar.
 
Right, I definitely see Anno influences in it.
 
8:17 PM
I think Caeser had combat
didn't play Anno
 
@Sconibulus Only in the campaign
Not in the city-only.
 
Lack of combat is definitly a case of YMMV. I prefer no combat myself, but I know that no combat will be a deal breaker for some.
 
Is there mod support?
Or at least the ability to mod?
(Whether officially supported or not)
 
NOt yet, but he's working on it.
He wants to get it out asap, but I think he's going to focus on bugs for the time being.
 
Ok, it's planned. Good. This looks like a good game for mods.
 
8:20 PM
Anyways guys thanks
 
@Wipqozn Sounds a bit like Bethesda.
 
@LewsTherin You're welcome! (I have no idea who you are or what you're thanking people for but I'm happy to take credit)
 
Bethesda, focusing on bugs. Heh
 
@Wipqozn xD
 
8:21 PM
@BenBrocka Bethesda putting the game out despite bugs.
The funniest part about it is it works.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Too slow, I finished reading that five seconds before you posted the link.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz 1000 fold? Sounds like its faster than my home internet.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz That sounds like something that will fly well here in Israel.
 
@Garan He's done a lot of bug fixing before release, but he's going to be fixing the bugs people report post launch/
 
With only the size of NJ to cover, you can do wonderful things with tech.
@Wipqozn You keep saying "he". One developer?
 
8:24 PM
@Wipqozn That is the first game.
 
@Garan Yes
 
The entire game was done by one person?
 
@Garan Yeah. He got someone to do music for him, but aside from that it was one person.
 
Wow. Just wow.
That puts my 4X game that I'm making with my brother to shame.
 
I just found a really nice free music player
Probably going to use this as my portable player from now on.
Gonna stick with Winyl at home though.
 
8:35 PM
...I see you're all stunned by the majesty of it
 
Oh god. I just had the thought to create an Oodish.
 
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FlipMcFI have never even got 4 bio-hazards before. What's required to get 5 bio-hazards when you win?

 
That game sounds a lot like Endemic.
A flash game from many years ago.
 
@Garan I think it was pretty obviously based off of Pandemic.
I'm not sure what the first game like that was.
 
8:44 PM
@Ullallulloo I meant that
 
@Garan Then yeah, it's pretty much that game on mobile with some additions.
 
@Krazer PSY-Duck is pimping!
 
@Garan You mean Pandemic?
 
Well, it's pretty obvious that mobile games are the new Flash games.
@GnomeSlice See where I said "I meant that"
 
Oh, right.
Is it just me, or does this look pretty good?
 
8:49 PM
Looks a bit like the inverse of Populous or Black and White.
 
I only vaguely remember watching my cousin play one of the black and white games when I was very young. I've never played Populous, but I have played Reprisal
 
@GnomeSlice Reprisal honestly isn't too for off the mark of Populous.
 
@RedRiderX Have you seen the stuff they've announced about Reprisal Universe?
 
Oh no
 
looks pretty great
@RedRiderX And yeah I've heard it compared to Populous a lot.
 
8:52 PM
@GnomeSlice Oh wow
 
@Blem ;3
 
That would be great
 
I'm getting slightly better at asking for press codes
 
@BenBrocka Hey if you can get it you might as well ask for it.
 
Music by Robinerd in that game.
 
8:54 PM
@RedRiderX Yeah, I just feel kinda like an ass doing it. But indies are generally quite happy to do it. Wasn't really sure what threshold they'd be willing to do it for
 
@BenBrocka Yeah that would be super hard for me to gauge too.
 
I have Tower of Guns and Drunken Robot Pornography to make videos for thanks to press codes though
 
 
@BenBrocka Do they want you to wait for the Steam release of ToG?
 
@BenBrocka ...
> Drunken Robot Pornography
 
8:55 PM
It's an arena shooter apparently
It is, perhaps unsurprisingly, by the guy who made AaaaaAAaaAaAAaa
 
Ah I see
 
@BenBrocka Dejobaan are awesome.
 
@GnomeSlice yeah, that's the "embargo" basically.
 
DAMMIT BANISHED, Y U NO MAC?
NOW I CAN ONLY PLAY AT HOME.
 
8:58 PM
@GnomeSlice ...
You're entirely missing my point.
You do this very often to me, I've noticed.
 
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Q: Loading previous playthroughs with Borderlands 2 not working

Alexander LozadaI currently finished the normal mode of Borderlands 2, and I wanted to try out True Vault Hunter Mode, thinking that I could revert back whenever I wanted. Now, I want to play the DLC on Normal mode, but I'm having problems loading my character. I've followed the directions mentioned here, but ...

 
@Yuki Sorry. =[
 

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