The Bridge

kalina

17:00

@SaintWacko I'm sorry, the community spoke clearly when they downvoted me into oblivion for speaking of ESO

HOMETIME

SaintWacko

@kalina o.0

Yuki

@SaintWacko ESO is under a pretty heavy NDA, and I'm not sure if SE would be liable if ESO questions started popping up on Arqade.

Ben Brocka

I've heard very few positive things about ESO but haven't seen real gameplay of it yet of course

SaintWacko

@Yuki Oh, right

OrigamiRobot

@BenBrocka Not much positive to say.

Ben Brocka

17:02

That's what I've gathered. Apparently even the lore is messed up

OrigamiRobot

I have no idea what the story is. I just clicked through everything without reading.

SaintWacko

@OrigamiRobot Good job beta testing

Ben Brocka

TES Lore reddit (which is apparently a thing) had a laundry list of complaints I mostly didn't understand

Unionhawk

Of course it's a thing.

OrigamiRobot

What is a laundry list anyway?

Ben Brocka

17:04

Apparently they removed most races of khajiits to make modeling easier

Unionhawk

> 1. (archaic) Originally, a list of articles of clothing that had been sent to be laundered. 2. (idiomatic, by extension) A long and often tedious list of items.

fredley

such frustrate

Yuki

57 mins ago, by Ullallulloo

badp

@Yuki It would not be

SE has not entered any agreement to NDAs with Bethesda/etc.

Lazers

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Q: Official Pokémon online tools for the games?

I wonder if there are official tools which can be used to manage your game software, too. An imaginable tool would be one to manage your boxes and/or trade with other players. Trading would be a little easer if you can see the boxes of others. Like there is Dota2Lounge to trade and bet with ite...

badp

17:11

so it is not SE's duty to do so

Ben Brocka

Is the monetization scheme ESO is doing ($60 + $15 a month + microtransaction) particularly egregious or am I just out of touch with MMOs? (or both)

badp

@BenBrocka It's probably going to degenerate to F2P at some point anyway

Unionhawk

I'm out of touch with MMOs but that sounds like too much money for me.

Ben Brocka

Yeah, if Bethesda complained it would just be a DCMA takedown. It'd be a bit of hassle and they'd have to take it down at that point, but it's not a "you post and SE is immediately sued" situation

ElfSlice

@GraceNote What's up? Did I do something wrong?

Grace Note

17:12

@ElfSlice No.

badp

@BenBrocka and I honestly don't see how it'd be a copyright violation

You can't hold a copyright on game mechanics.

Ben Brocka

@badp I've seen even more spurious stuff have a DCMA filed against it

badp

What they certainly can do anyway is subpoena SE for personal information, then sue you.

ElfSlice

@GraceNote Fire away, then.

Ben Brocka

Also Twitch.tv has a little notice to EVERYONE that Bethesda will file DCMA claims on any ESO streams

Grace Note

17:13

@ElfSlice What defines "House" as a musical genre?

2

(Isn't it DMCA, by the by?)

Ben Brocka

Not the same as Q, but they are being pretty vicious, as is somewhat standard

badp

@BenBrocka I've noticed that and kind of laughed.

Ben Brocka

whatever. Acronyms

ElfSlice

@GraceNote Mostly the beat.

RedRiderX

@GraceNote I also asked this.

SaintWacko

17:14

@GraceNote Digital Media Copyright Act

Grace Note

@ElfSlice What about it, precisely?

ElfSlice

@GraceNote Kick drum on every beat is the most notable feature

House is also usually in 4/4 time signatures

Grace Note

Uh huh.

fredley

@GraceNote It depends, House contains many subgenres

ElfSlice

I'm wearing two pairs of pants.

@fredley BLUGH

fredley

17:15

@ElfSlice inb4

ElfSlice

House music

House music is a genre of electronic dance music that originated in the American city of Chicago in the early 1980s. It was initially popularized circa 1984 in Chicago, but beginning in 1985, it fanned out to other major cities across North and South America , as well as Europe and later Australia. Early house music commercial success in Europe saw songs such as "House Nation" by House Master Boyz and the Rude Boy of House (1987) and "Doctorin' the House" by Coldcut (1988) in the pop charts. Since the early to mid-1990s, house music has been infused in mainstream pop and dance music worldw...

Grace Note

...wow okay huh.

ElfSlice

House music is generally considered the best to dance to by clubgoers.

Frank

Interview for placement agency over.

ElfSlice

(I think)

Frank

17:17

I now have ~40 minutes to kill.

ElfSlice

Today's Listening

fredley

Nov 11 '13 at 17:37, by fredley

Nov 11 '13 at 17:33, by GnomeSlice

ElfSlice

^

Those are amazing.

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Q: Official Pokémon online tools for the games?

I wonder if there are official tools which can be used to manage your game software, too. An imaginable tool would be one to manage your boxes and/or trade with other players. Trading would be a little easer if you can see the boxes of others. Like there is Dota2Lounge to trade and bet with ite...

pokemon-xy pokemon-sixth-gen

Tool-rec?

StrixVaria

@ElfSlice I don't like the question, but I remember opposition to *-rec being blanket off topic.

ElfSlice

That seems fair.

I'm still not convinced it's actually on-topic though.

@StrixVaria Hey, you changed back.

Oh, I can probably change back now too.

StrixVaria

17:23

Me neither, but I figure I'll let those people step up if they want before I start casting votes.

Jason Berkan

*-rec should not be a blanket off-topic reason. That question, however, has all the bad parts of *-rec => it's an unbound list of subjectiveness.

fredley

Styles of house music

A : Emphasizes a repetitive, hypnotic and trance-like style, often with samples or spoken lines instead of lyrics. It has core electronic "squelch" sounds that were developed around the mid-1980s, particularly by DJs from Chicago who experimented with the Roland TB-303 electronic synthesizer-sequencer. ex: Adonis, Phuture, Tyree, 'Fast' Eddie Smith, L.A. Williams : Combines elements of acid house and ambient music, typically featuring synth pads and "atmospheric style" vocal samples. It emerged in the late 1980s. ex: The Orb B : Also known as Balearic house, initially was an e...

Yuki

Then again, there are very few (read: almost none) "official" Pokemon tools.

fredley

Pretty much all of these can be made into silly images

ElfSlice

So steamcommunity.com is in spanish now

okay

Oh hey, Deadly 30 is now available on Steam.

Yuki

17:27

We need more [Adjective] [Number] games.

Ben Brocka

Decrepit 48

Lazers

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Q: Does Krampus only appear in the winter?

In Don't Starve, does Krampus only appear when it is winter? Or can he appear in any season? From what I've read about it, he appears to punish you for naughtiness. I assume this is a nod to the Krampus of Northern European folklore . . . So, I wonder if he only appears during the winter? I h...

dont-starve

Arperum

@Yuki Serious 60.

Ben Brocka

Tomba 2 coming to PSN

David M

@Yuki I actually came in here to ask if people thought this, too.

@Yuki Itchy 31

Yuki

17:32

@DavidM The only official (as in, Nintendo-endorsed) Pokemon tools are the various Pokemon Box "games" and the not-yet-released-in-the-West PokeBank.

Highly-Inappropriate 69.

Ben Brocka

@Yuki and dream radar and stuff and the website they sink to

David M

@Yuki I figured it was a list that couldn't be more than 4 things long ... I wondered if it was really off-topic myself.

ElfSlice

@Yuki Amped 3

Amped 3

Amped 3 is a snowboarding game, the third installment of the ' sports game franchise, developed by Indie Built/2K Sports. It expands on previous versions of the Xbox exclusive games by featuring larger levels, customizable terrains, a 300 song soundtrack, and various Xbox Live online features as well as the ability to use a snowmobile, a variety of sleds and even a hang glider. There are also substantial changes to the gameplay which provide for a more irreverent tone, such as challenges in which two players compete to amass the most injuries and a 10 hour story mode presented in a var...

:P

Also, that game is ridiculous

Ben Brocka

@Yuki Dyslexically naughty 96

ElfSlice

They must have been on so many drugs when they made Amped 3.

Ben Brocka

17:33

@Kalina Made a game?

David M

Axillary 37

Yuki

@ElfSlice That seems to be the case with so many snowboarding games...

David M

@ElfSlice But, clean and sober for Amped 1&2?

ElfSlice

@DavidM I dunno, I haven't played those ones.

Presumably they're similarly messed up.

That's the starting costume in Amped 3

David M

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StrixVaria

17:36

@ElfSlice Pink brand Donnie Darko

ElfSlice

@StrixVaria Yeah.

It's actually a really fun game.

You can ride sleds too, and they're like impossible to control.

And you fly off them a lot.

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There's a rocket powered sled that floats over the ground and goes really fast.

The cutscenes are all on drugs too.

One is presented like an anime.

One is all puppets.

etc

Ben Brocka

@ElfSlice reminds me of the Silent Hill rabbit

OrigamiRobot

@STRIX MAKE UP YOUR MIND

ElfSlice

ugbnm

why am I still elf

StrixVaria

@OrigamiRobot What?

OrigamiRobot

17:40

DON'T ACT LIKE YOU DON'T KNOW

ElfSlice

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This looks interesting.

Lazers

0

Q: Is there any way to edit my character's voice in Borderlands 2?

I love playing as Gaige, but her screams of pain are really disturbing.

borderlands-2

Arperum

@ElfSlice SLow chat is being slow, that is all.

Yuki

@Lazers Should be migrated to Minimalism.SE.

StrixVaria

@GnomeSlice chat takes a while to update your name.

ElfSlice

17:44

trsygigjrhigtnbmrsdt

Nope, still elf

Yuki

@ElfSlice This is why you should have just linked an account on a random SE with the name "ElfSlice" instead of changing your name on Arqade.

ElfSlice

Eh, I wanted it changed on Arqade too.

OrigamiRobot

@Yuki That's what we tell him every time

Yuki

It's what I did that one time I went by "Steam".

Ben Brocka

Xbox One is so realistic it will cause hallucinations of grievous injury! In stores now

2

And apparently they're seriously going with " If it were any more real, it would be real"

ElfSlice

17:47

@BenBrocka wtf

Lazers

0

Q: Does cooking food impact the spoilage rate in Don't Starve?

In Don't Starve, cooking food can have a variety of effects on the restorative and degenerative properties of food. I've seen people say to keep it in crock pots until ready to use to prevent spoilage, but this is not great when you have low research. And, I've seen mods that prevent spoilage, ...

dont-starve

MBraedley

Just had a chat with our IT admin. There's a set of Java updates coming out tomorrow, 34 of which are critical-oh-my-god-my-machine-is-owned vulnerabilities. They need to do something about how insecure it is.

Yuki

@Lazers Hmm... I know that cooking food doesn't change how spoiled a food item is, but I don't know about decay rate differences.

kalina

I'm baaaack

suddenly it goes quiet

David M

@Yuki That's my question. I know there is a pickling mod, etc. But, I wonder if the native in-game does anything.

Ben Brocka

17:50

@ElfSlice Their marketing team is...special

OrigamiRobot

@kalina fanfare

Happy now?

kalina

@OrigamiRobot IT'S FINE I'LL GO AND PLAY SOMETHING ON STEAM

It's no worry.

David M

@BenBrocka Douchy console marketing has been around forever! Check out the old Atari ads on Youtube sometime.

kalina

There's nothing I want to play on Steam

Yuki

> fanfare

David M

17:52

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MBraedley

@DavidM You really don't need the "in Don't Starve" in the title. It actually detracts from the SOI, since the tag isn't added to the beginning for the title. The only time I'd add the title in this case is if another question already has that title.

kalina

@Yuki -.-

ElfSlice

@MBraedley SOI?

David M

@MBraedley There were a few what's the point of cooking, etc.

MBraedley

@ElfSlice Oops, SEO

ElfSlice

17:53

Oh.

Yuki

@BenBrocka I don't see how that's a plus...

Ben Brocka

@DavidM They're always awful (I think the greatness awaits is a bit less awful, but still focusing on the well-worn "explosions! cars! COOL THINGS!" stuff) but this one is particularly...off

David M

@MBraedley Not that I don't believe you, but why would that happen? I'm by no means an expert at SEO. It's a sincere question.

MBraedley

@DavidM Because the tag is put at the beginning of the title, which is just the question name, and SEO says that order of terms in the title is important.

David M

@MBraedley So, if I understand correctly, an ideal question would read: "Don't Starve - Does cooking affect the rate of spoilage/decay of food items?"

In terms of SEO. Not readability.

MBraedley

17:58

@DavidM but the system handles that automatically by adding the tags to the beginning of the title if they aren't added by the user.

3ventic

The <title> tag takes the format <title> [most popular tag in the question] - [title of the question]</title> as far as I know

David M

AHHHHHHHHHHH! I see it now.

So, if no tag, it adds it automatically.

3ventic

That's why adding the tag name in the title of the question is useless, or even worse than adding it.

MBraedley

@3ventic Iff the tag isn't in the question title already

3ventic

I don't know the specifics

It's just something I noticed while using the site

David M

17:59

In this case, Don't Starve is not the tag, though. It's dont-starve. So, I assume it would add it anyway????

MBraedley

@DavidM Doesn't really matter for SEO.

And actually, there's some more smarts in the system anyway.

David M

The only reason I added it is for HSEO - Human SEO. It's easier when looking at a list of questions to see the title when it includes the name of the game . . . It catches your eye faster.

So, I guess it depends upon where you expect the answer to come from. A google search or a user who is already perusing the site.

MBraedley

@DavidM For experienced users, they'll have the tag in their favourite tags list. For people coming from Google it doesn't really matter

ElfSlice

LEAGUE OF LEGENDS - how to jungle ult jungle lane ult ult jungle?

3ventic

Favorite tags are good for seeing quickly whether a question is about a game you know about.

Yuki

18:06

@ElfSlice I don't think you mentioned "lane" enough times for that to be a proper league-of-legends question.

fredley

@Yuki CLOSED AS LOL

David M

@MBraedley I have a few myself, I guess I will bow to the power of SEO.

StrixVaria

Jul 18 '13 at 13:57, by StrixVaria

I'll put a standing offer out there that I will explain any LoL term (that I know; but it should be most of them I think) to anyone who wants to know.

Jul 18 '13 at 13:57, by StrixVaria

I'm tired of people complaining (yes, complaining) that they can't read LoL questions because of the terminology. It doesn't help anything.

badp

I'm home!

@StrixVaria woo!

David M

@badp Home meaning Italy or Germany?

badp

18:15

@DavidM Germany, for less than a month now.

David M

@badp Have you been enjoying your stay there?

badp

@DavidM I can't say I have. All that DEUTSCHESPRACHEGERMANSPRECHIEREN numbo jumbo gets in the way occasionally,

David M

I've not visited Germany yet, despite my extensive (for an American) travel throughout Europe.

StrixVaria

Germany is the only place in Europe I've visited (unless you count Heathrow airport, which I don't).

badp

I've never been outside of Europe

Grace Note

18:17

Oh, you're back in Germany?

David M

@badp numbo jumbo - typo or were you trying to use the term mumbo jumbo?

OrigamiRobot

Jun 28 '13 at 15:41, by OrigamiRobot

@StrixVaria Complaining should be a bannable offense.

badp

@GraceNote Yeah. My last day is the 7th and I have an exam in Milan on the 12th so timing is kinda tight.

@DavidM it's like mumbo jumbo but numb. Duh

(yes, typo)

David M

@badp LOL

I must say that I'm constantly amazed by the quality of the English spoken by everyone on this site.

In chat, anyway.

Mad Scientist

@badp You can get pretty far with english, at least in the major cities

badp

18:19

@DavidM ur welcom lol xD ,,,,trolol

SaintWacko

@DavidM It's because we sternly disapprove of the common vernacular of the internet

badp

@MadScientist and indeed, thankfully, I have.

Grace Note

@badp ...isn't it the 13th right now?

StrixVaria

which one

Sep 23 '12 at 14:51, 5 minutes total – 7 messages, 2 users, 12 stars

Bookmarked Dec 12 '12 at 21:04 by StrixVaria

Every time I find this it's the best thing I've seen all day.

badp

@GraceNote Both dates in February

Grace Note

18:19

Ah

badp

@StrixVaria The very concept of having conversations in the Android Hell blows my mind.

3

David M

@StrixVaria Heathrow is lovely airport, though. A destination all its own.

spugsley

hi guys

David M

@spugsley Hey! Did you wind up picking a photo for the flyer?

badp

@spugsley yo. How's the taking of the photos going?

RedRiderX

18:26

in The Android Hell: This Is The Part Where All The Robots Scream At You., Jan 5 at 20:01, by ElfSlice

You guys are weird.

Should be pinned

6

spugsley

@DavidM not yet. I haven't been doing much of anything. I've been super stomach virus sick :/

I made it to my computer again today so that's a win

David M

@spugsley Lots of that going around lately. I've gotten no less than 4 emails from the hospital warning us to wash our hands more . . .

spugsley

I was feeling a lot better last night but as soon as I woke up this morning I was super sick again

this stuff sucks

FAE

This makes me so glad I'm not actually physically in the same room with you guys. >_>

6

David M

@spugsley Fever, nasal congestion, too? Or just stomach?

@FAE THIS IS THE ONLY THING?!?

GnomeSlice

18:28

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spugsley

@DavidM small fever on day one. Aches, stomach pains, terrible, horrible headache.

Arperum

@FAE The part where they are all sick?

Danny Beckett

FAE

@DavidM Well, pretty much.

@Arperum Yes.

OrigamiRobot

@FAE :(

FAE

18:31

@OrigamiRobot I don't want to get sick!

spugsley

@FAE I managed to get sick despite staying away from everyone :( I'm convinced @GnomeSlice set me the sickness via internet

OrigamiRobot

@spugsley Did you lick @Fluttershy?

2

spugsley

@OrigamiRobot yes. I licked him.

OrigamiRobot

That'll do it.

FAE

@spugsley Ian goes out for work though doesn't he? He probably brought something back.

(as in he doesn't work from home)

spugsley

18:33

@FAE yeah that terrible, terrible sickness spreading @IanPugsley. It's all his fault.

FAE

@spugsley Obviously he should repay you by buying you games.

MBraedley

@FAE That would seem like a fair trade

OrigamiRobot

@spugsley He better not get me sick. He didn't tell me you were sick till we were on our way home last night.

spugsley

@FAE yes. Or oatmeal and bread. Because I'm about to ragequit soup for life

@OrigamiRobot yup, you're doomed.

FAE

@OrigamiRobot oh noooooo

GnomeSlice

18:35

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There, I sent you the sickness through the internet.

Unionhawk

ಠ_ಠ

GnomeSlice

heehee

spugsley

@GnomeSlice hahaha Disturbed was my shit in early high school. Those were my goth days :3

GnomeSlice

@spugsley They were my fav band for a looong time in high school

FAE

@spugsley I bought all their songs on Rock Band. <_<

GnomeSlice

18:37

I wasn't even goth

I just really liked them

OrigamiRobot

Nerds.

FAE

I was too lazy to be goth.

GnomeSlice

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One of their best songs in my opinion

FAE

That required putting an amount of work into makeup and clothes that I couldn't be arsed for.

GnomeSlice

@FAE Yeah, fuck that

FAE

18:38

Also I can't imagine how much worse the bullying would've got then if I did do that.

spugsley

@FAE yeah I can attest that it was not good.

at least for me

but then it was just as bad when I decided that I wouldn't dress like that anymore so idk

FAE

A lot of what I got was racist stuff, so I couldn't ever escape that part.

GnomeSlice

Ilamentia is now available on the indiegamestand store

CC @FAE

I know you're into shit like Kairo

spugsley

@FAE :( mine was just stupid teenage ignorance stuff

GnomeSlice

I never actually got beat up in highschool

My highschool was pretty chill I guess

spugsley

18:44

@GnomeSlice the worst I ever got was someone spit dip on me. I went to a really redneck high school

GnomeSlice

wtf

StrixVaria

Disturbed was so good.

GnomeSlice

Is*

StrixVaria

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My favorite song of thiers.

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria Voices is awesome

Are you breathing nooooooow.

StrixVaria

18:46

This version is censored :(

GnomeSlice

Some kinda funny lyrics though

'you're making me glum'

StrixVaria

I don't know any words to any songs.

spugsley

@StrixVaria that was my favorite too!

FAE

@spugsley My HS was 99% white and in a really rural town. I was one of three non-white kids in my grade. Our HS was a combined middle school/high school, so 6th through 12th and the largest minority was adopted Koreans, because there were like... 6 of us. 369

GnomeSlice

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My favouite off their newest album

which is pretty old now

Actually they've done at least one since then

Kevin van der Velden

18:49

In a "If you like disturbed you might like this" sense:

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GnomeSlice

Now I'm gonna listen to Disturbed again

uebqgivewbrnjve

Kevin van der Velden

@GnomeSlice naah, listen to dark empire, much better :)

GnomeSlice

I doubt it

Kevin van der Velden

Slightly less screamy

GnomeSlice

also then I have to stream it

Wat

OrigamiRobot

18:50

I went to the "poor/dumb/black/trouble school"

spugsley

I listened to The Used for a long time. And My Chemical Romance's early stuff.

GnomeSlice

Disturbed is like the least screamy stuff

that's one of the things I like about them so much

Kevin van der Velden

@GnomeSlice well this is even less screamy. Also much awesome

OrigamiRobot

"Trouble" I'll give them. One year my entire grade was banned from going on field trips because people misbehaved so bad.

spugsley

@OrigamiRobot O_o they can do that?

FAE

18:52

@spugsley Also I just had some major chat lag, so I've no idea how the 369 got on the end of that.

spugsley

@FAE haha :p

StrixVaria

@KevinvanderVelden This is nothing like Disturbed, really. It's good, but not similar to Disturbed.

OrigamiRobot

@spugsley Why wouldn't they be able to?

Kevin van der Velden

@FAE sssh you'll scare the chat fairys away if you talk about them

StrixVaria

I feel like I'm listening to Blind Guardian with this song @KevinvanderVelden linked.

spugsley

18:53

@OrigamiRobot lol idk it just never occured to me

Kevin van der Velden

@StrixVaria I... wait which band was I thinking about then

FAE

@StrixVaria haha, wow, yeah

StrixVaria

@KevinvanderVelden Darkest Hour?

GnomeSlice

Did you guys hear about the new band the frontman from Disturbed accidentally started?

Kevin van der Velden

But you're right, I didn't listen to the linked song I thought I knew their music (which I do, I just messed it up with someone else, who, no idea)

GnomeSlice

18:55

Device

Kevin van der Velden

@StrixVaria hmm doubt it, never listened to that as far as I know

Ben Brocka

@OrigamiRobot I went to the poor/black/mostly still okay school for high school.

FAE

@OrigamiRobot My grade was the year all the teachers hated. After the French teacher had us for the first year, she literally refused to teach us ever again and they had to hire another French teacher.

Ben Brocka

We didn't have as many fights as one of the other schools

FAE

They apparently prewarned teachers about us.

GnomeSlice

18:56

@spugsley @StrixVaria

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Vocalist may sound familiar. ;]

StrixVaria

@KevinvanderVelden Just listed the closest thing to Disturbed I could think of with "Dark" in the name :P

FAE

I find inexplicably David Draiman attractive for some reason.

spugsley

@GnomeSlice I'll listen in a min. I got stuck in a My Chemical Romance nostalgia vortex :p

GnomeSlice

@spugsley Uh oh!

FAE

@GnomeSlice I like this.

GnomeSlice

18:59

Me too.

It sounds a lot like Disturbed though.

Which honestly I'm fine with

FAE

@GnomeSlice It does.

GnomeSlice

I used to listen to them so much

OrigamiRobot

I hate you all for not liking the exact same music as me.

StrixVaria

@spugsley They're from New Jersey.

I only like the Black Parade album by them, though.

Kevin van der Velden

@OrigamiRobot you should, how dare people be interesting and different!

which one

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