The Bridge

Arperum

14:00

@tombull89 I have no time for your pesky flagging, I must catch that butterfly!

tombull89

@Arperum but look at the flags! the pretty waving fluttering flags!

LpSamuelm

I just lost 350 rep on a question being deleted. Oh, such pain have I rarely felt.

3ventic

350 rep on one question in under 60 days?

LpSamuelm

@3ventic Yeah.

3ventic

Impressive

LpSamuelm

14:06

@3ventic I am currently in mourning.

Lazers

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Q: Similar games to Clash of clans

for the last two weaks I have been playing mobile game called clash of clans, I enjoy it very much, but i am frustrated with the gem system (you know where you need to spend the money to complete sertain things much faster). I know that you can play this game completely without spending a dime, b...

pc clash-of-clans

Sterno

It was that "which platform does the developer get the most money for a game" question, right?

Arperum

@Lazers No. Off-topic

Frank

Good morning, Bridge

4

Wandang

When I posted this question there was no clear answer. Now, that valve have implemented the new MM system I feel that it should be closed. Thank you for your input. — Bloodcount 7 mins ago

why would we close it?

now there is a clear answer and this is q&a

Frank

14:10

We wouldn't.

kalina

Hello "Frank"

Sterno

@Frank Whoever normally stars that must not be around, so I'll star that for you.

Frank

@kalina Hello, "kalina"

kalina

you know, Frank is the UK's drug assistance service

Yuki

@Sterno They must be confused because it's "Frank", not "fbjaklafjekj-kert".

Sterno

14:11

Oh, man, now you just made it turn into "JerkBert" in my head.

Finally a non-swear version!

Frank

@Sterno And hence why I changed it!

kalina

@Sterno fbucket

Sterno

Now it just changed into JuiceBucket.

I don't want to keep going down this rabbit hole.

tombull89

Wasn't Frank the "rabbit" from Donnie Darko?

kalina

@tombull89 yes

also

2

Frank

14:15

You guys suck.

3

kalina

I don't talk about that in public

oh

right...

Arperum

@Frank Name changes suck too.

Wandang

i live near the netherland border i dont need frank :)

kalina

@Frank welcome to the literally worse than hitler club

allow me to extend this friendly invitation

@FEichinger ...

Wandang

@Frank nice editing: how?how?

gaming.stackexchange.com/posts/136325/revisions

Frank

14:17

@Wandang Use the side by side markdown to see the difference.

Lazers

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Q: What's the easiest/fastest way to get tokens?

As topic says: What's the easiest/fastest way to get tokens? I collected all of them from achievements that I got. And I know that fastest way is just to purchase them, however it's not what I'm planning to do. I also know that sometimes you get 50 tokens as a daily reward when you collect all 3...

despicable-me-minion-rush

Wandang

@Frank terrific view

Sterno

Flag Troll sense tingling

FEichinger

DESTROY ALL EVIDENCE.

kalina

did somebody just flag me?

oh

there it is

I GUESS I WILL SEE YOU LATER THEN

Journeyman Geek

14:19

hi

Sterno

inb4 flag troll

FEichinger

sigh

Journeyman Geek

sigh

FEichinger

inb4

Journeyman Geek

and this is why WE CANNOT HAVE NICE THings.

Frank

14:20

23 hours ago, by Wipqozn

Oct 9 at 19:07, by Sterno

I think we can all agree that if @fbueckert changed his name, it would be the one name change that doesn't make someone worse than Hitler.

Sterno

Okay, that one could legitimately not be a troll.

FEichinger

@Sterno Ahyup.

ElfSlice

@Sterno I think you placed your hat wrong

wtf who flagged that

Yuki

Okay, that one was trolling.

FEichinger

That said, it wasn't me. I was busy thinking of a better comeback.

Sterno

14:20

@ElfSlice I did it exactly as I intended.

Apparently someone in here really hates the word "penis".

Frank

I sincerely hope whoever it is gets whacked with a ban, too.

ElfSlice

ಠ_ಠ

Yuki

Are you kidding me?

tombull89

You get a ban! and you get a ban! Everyone gets a chat ban!

Arperum

Who got flagged? aside of @kalina

Mad Scientist

14:22

Just FYI, I'm currently running that script that shows the names of flaggers here in this room.

Yuki

I think @FEichinger got flagged.

Arperum

(for god knows what stupid reason?)

Sterno

Dear Flag Troll,

Yesterday, moderators discovered that they can figure out who flagged things with a script one of them wrote. Check yesterday's transcript for details. Please stop being an ass. Thank you!

Sincerely,
Everyone Else on The Bridge

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FEichinger

@Yuki Hm? No, I'm still here.

I manually deleted that one message, no need to keep it around.

Yuki

@FEichinger Well, I think I invalidated that one.

Frank

14:22

@Sterno Alternatively, don't stop being an ass, so you can get banned, and everyone else will be happy about it.

FEichinger

To be fair, calling someone a troll and an ass doesn't really help.

Yuki

Also, @Frank got flagged for sure, but I think everyone invalidated that.

At least, I would hope.

Sterno

@FEichinger I'm not always helpful.

Frank

@Yuki I...did?

5pike

@FEichinger Even if Sterno would change those into non-swear words, the message would be the same.

Sterno

14:23

Whoever flagged @kalina may have had a legit complaint (which I don't agree with, but whatevs). Whoever flagged @Frank is definitely a troll, though.

Yuki

@MadScientist @kalina would like to know if you can un-ban her.

FEichinger

@Yuki I second this request.

Yuki

@FEichinger I third this seconding.

ElfSlice

So it's only a legit ban if it's me?

FEichinger

@5pike I have my fair share of problems with the whole "bah, flag troll!" thing, this public shaming is going too far.

ElfSlice

14:25

ಠ_ಠ

tombull89

@MadScientist so...how would we go about using this in other rooms?

Mad Scientist

@Yuki That flag was validated by quite some users,. I didn't follow the whole discussions so I've no idea if that was purely a joke, but I'm not going to reverse it in this case

Arperum

@ElfSlice That's not what was said.

Mad Scientist

@tombull89 Works only for mods as far as I know

FEichinger

@MadScientist Seeing how it was directed at me ... o.ô

ElfSlice

14:26

@MadScientist You should run it in the math room too

They produce even dumber flags than us from time to time.

Sterno

@FEichinger To be clear, I'm directing my message at whoever flagged Frank. In which case, it is not too far. Besides, no one is being publicly shamed, because I have no idea who the person is

Mad Scientist

@FEichinger Didn't check that. If it was directed at you and you want her unbanned, I can do that

tombull89

@ElfSlice mwahaha...and The DMZ

Yuki

@ElfSlice I'm just reporting for @kalina since she's been banned. I don't have you on Steam, so...

Rob

I totally dont understand whats gong on here. Someone is getting flagged for spam?

FEichinger

14:26

Re "flag troll": If the flag is invalid, invalidate it, done. Don't claim to know what the motivation behind the flag was.

Ben Brocka

@Sterno what? Gimmie

Rob

Because of a chat message here?

FEichinger

@MadScientist Ahyup.

Sterno

@BenBrocka Maybe this: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/12672900#12672900

ElfSlice

@Rob Yes. Somebody flagged a bunch of messages, two of which were pretty clearly not offensive in any way.

Sterno

14:27

I can't read that so I'm not sure

kalina

@MadScientist thanks mwah

I hope you got a name out of the script

Rob

@ElfSlice, and that bans ytou from the chat room?

FEichinger

Alrighty, hometime for me again, then.

Frank

@Sterno And I wouldn't expect us to be told who it is, anyways.

Sterno

@Frank Agreed.

ElfSlice

14:28

@Rob If people validate the flags, yes. The two nonoffensive ones were invalidated though.

kalina

@FEichinger wave

ElfSlice

But the first one was validated, so @kalina was temporarily banned from the chatroom, yes.

Frank

I'm still not even sure which of my stuff got flagged.

ElfSlice

I am an expert on chat bans.

Rob

@ElfSlice, so does a message pop up someowhere asking others to confirm it's Spam or something? (My first time in the chat system today...)

kalina

14:29

@Frank the comment you said immediately after I got banned

ElfSlice

8 mins ago, by Frank

I sincerely hope whoever it is gets whacked with a ban, too.

@Rob Only if you have 10k network rep or more.

Frank

Oh, me hoping whoever's doing it gets banned, too?

ElfSlice

@Rob Also, everyone on the entire network with over 10k rep can see it.

kalina

@Frank yeah that one

ElfSlice

@kalina Welcome back. =]

Rob

14:29

Ah, I have a way to go there then.... :)

kalina

@ElfSlice o/

Sterno

@ElfSlice I'd elect you moderator of ChatBans.SE

ElfSlice

@Sterno =[

Frank

Well, I still sincerely hope that. If that means we get less stupid flags in here, I'm all for it.

Sterno

@ElfSlice That should be cause for rejoicing!

kalina

14:31

there have been a lot of silly flags in here recently

that's why I hope that little episode resulted in high quality data for @MadScientist

Sterno

It is unclear to me what action, if any, moderators can actually take with that data.

tombull89

@kalina yes but is anything going to be done about it?

kalina

@tombull89 a chat wide ban for a week as a warning, a month as a second warning, a year as a third warning

+please

Sterno

Particularly on the more subjective cases of flag abuse. The one on Frank's message is the only one that was unquestionably bad.

Mad Scientist

@Frank The existence of that script is likely to discourage malicious flagging. I have the users logged that cast the two frivolous flags, the only reason I haven't acted is that I've no idea how reliable the script is. If stupid flags happen again, I'll stop caring about that and assume the script is correct

kalina

14:32

@Sterno in this instance

tombull89

@kalina chat ban, or chat flag ban?

ElfSlice

@Sterno Kalina's second flag was pretty bad too

kalina

@tombull89 chat ban

ElfSlice

13 mins ago, by kalina

I GUESS I WILL SEE YOU LATER THEN

That was also flagged

Sterno

@ElfSlice I didn't even see that one

kalina

14:32

yep

Sterno

I agree then.

ElfSlice

You... agree? ...with me?

I... I'm so full of emotion

kalina

careful, precedents being set

Sterno

I understand @FEichinger's point of "be nice and try to be understanding of flaggers", but come on, some of these are OBVIOUSLY trolling

Frank

@MadScientist I approve of this.

ElfSlice

14:33

;_;

@MadScientist can't room owner mods see flaggers as well?

Sterno

In other news, Saints Row IV is awesome in every way that GTA 5 was not.

kalina

@ElfSlice mods only

ElfSlice

@kalina mods who are room owners, right?

5pike

@Sterno Isn't that always the case?

Kevin van der Velden

@Sterno this could be taken to mean that SR4 is not awesome at all because there were no ways in which GTA5 was not awesome.

kalina

14:34

@MadScientist it's good you got info from it, from the testing Manish did yesterday it was spot on

Sterno

@KevinvanderVelden Only by a crazy person.

kalina

@ElfSlice mods in general

any mods

ElfSlice

Why do they need a script then?

tombull89

within 3 hours of release, 3800 unique players on 400 different servers for Just Cause 2 Multiplayer. Aww yiss.

kalina

because there's no user interface for the data

the data is present but there are no buttons to show it

Kevin van der Velden

14:35

@Sterno have you seen some of the spam we get? There are a lot of crazy people

ElfSlice

@tombull89 yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

tombull89

@ElfSlice first hour was a bit screwey but after that things went well

Lazers

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Q: Fallout 3 GOTY edition doesn't start

I can start the launcher, but when I press play the game closes instead of running. Any one have an idea what the problem might be or away around it? Or any idea for something I can try would be appreciated.

fallout-3

ElfSlice

@tombull89 I'm annoyed I had to start with the rico skin again, but otherwise had some fun. The trick to playing JC2MP is you have to expect you're going to die.

I was getting really frustrated at first but then I changed how I was playing

much more fun

Frank

Ok, Christmas is coming early for somebody. I have a gift of Defender's Quest available, for whoever wants it.

Sterno

14:38

Good game.

ElfSlice

@Frank That game is excellent.

Sterno

I should check what Steam gifts I have

tombull89

@ElfSlice Yeah, don't play is as a deathmatch and more of a sandbox and it's a lot more fun.

Fluttershy

Did I miss flag drama?

tombull89

I got a faction together and base jumped off a few mountains during the beta, that was good fun.

Frank

14:40

Only requirement is: you need to contact me on Steam to get it.

Sterno

I've got Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light and XCOM: Enemy Unknown for anyone who wants.

Fluttershy

Why would anyone flag twerkalina? :o Or fibbikert?

2

tombull89

@Fluttershy this is The Bridge. There's always flag drama.

ElfSlice

@Frank Guess that won't work for me since you blocked me

Fluttershy

@Sterno You want anything for TR?

kalina

14:40

gaming.stackexchange.com/q/146622/#comment198169_146622

Sterno

Free.

What's your steam name?

kalina

oh

it's been deleted already

ElfSlice

Speaking of gifts:

Fluttershy

@Sterno Er... Lara Croft, or whatevs. I'm nihilistronin on Steam. I think we're friends on there.

ElfSlice

Anybody interested in any of those?

I need ~~friendship~~ nothing in return

kalina

14:42

FBueckert, I am tired of your shit. An artifact cannot be provided because it violates LAW. The law supersedes the rules of this website. Go harass someone else please. Owners can go to this place at anytime and listen to it, since I provided an accurate location. — Assylum 21 mins ago

there we go

Kevin van der Velden

@kalina hasn't been deleted for me

Frank

@kalina Yeah, he doesn't like me. I don't care.

Kevin van der Velden

But yeah that person apparently doesn't know much about copyright law, specifically the fair use bit.

Sterno

@ElfSlice I disliked Hack Slash Loot so much

5pike

@ElfSlice Hack, Slash, Loot and Paranoutical Activity look interesting.

tombull89

14:43

Frank = FBueckert?

ElfSlice

@Sterno Yeah it was kind of a letdown

@tombull89 Correct.

kalina

@tombull89 ...

Tim Stone

Snorkeling Rainbow Dash is best Winterbash hatting, well done @kalina.

Frank

@tombull89 Yes. I changed my name.

ElfSlice

@5pike Do I have you on Steam?

Sterno

14:43

I feel like someone telling you exactly what point in the game a song plays is valid in terms of having an artifact.

kalina

@TimStone thanks

5pike

@ElfSlice I don't think so

Ben Brocka

But who will I internally call f*ckbert now

5pike

steamcommunity.com/id/spike1988

ElfSlice

@5pike steamcommunity.com/id/GnomeSlice

OrigamiRobot

14:44

@TimStone Thanks. We'll try again tomorrow.

kalina

@BenBrocka so mean

Sconibulus

@Sterno That does seem like a decent audiovisual artifact

kalina

@Sconibulus there's no audio involved

Tim Stone

Unbelievable. Prolonged doge exposure has made me into a comic sans fan. I feel... such free

Tweeted by yjsoon on December 17, 2013 at 9:04 AM

kalina

but the question is about audio

Ben Brocka

14:44

@kalina blame my brain, I read it like that a lot

kalina

it's a bit middle of the road

@BenBrocka yes but that's his name, you might offend him

Sconibulus

There is enough to identify it precisely

Tim Stone

@OrigamiRobot If you come back I'll ban myself for mentioning ~~hats~~ that which shall not be mentioned.

kalina

...in some parallel universe

Sconibulus

which is the point of the artifact

Sterno

14:45

We're not asking someone to identify a game, either. We're asking about content in a game. The thing we're supposed to be experts on.

Ben Brocka

@TimStone got tired of that meme when I started people using it as advertisements

kalina

...where @Frank actually takes offence to anything

Tim Stone

@BenBrocka Yeaaaah.

Sterno

Whether or not music identification in games is on-topic is one thing, but saying "At this exact point in the game, what is it?" seems solid in terms of providing what is needed for an expert to answer your question

Fluttershy

@kalina You stole my snorkel idea? :(

Frank

14:46

@Sterno And if any more effort had been provided, beyond, "Here's screenshots, find it yourself", I'd be fine with it.

ElfSlice

@Assylum if you're worried about Youtube taking issue with you uploading music (which is perfectly reasonable), see if you can upload a snippet to Ge.tt or dropbox or something for us to listen to. =] — ElfSlice 5 secs ago

Constructive?

Frank

There needs to be more effort on the asker's part (especially THIS guy).

Sconibulus

@Sterno The only exception being if it can vary between plays

ElfSlice

@TimStone huehuehue

kalina

@Fluttershy what? you didn't have this idea

what

WHAT

link

Sterno

14:47

@Sconibulus Granted

Fluttershy

@kalina I've had a snorkel on since day 1 of the Winter Bash! :P

kalina

oh wow you're using snorkle

no you were using the bear last time I looked

Frank

If I actually played Postal 2, or knew where it was, it's easily possible to find a walkthrough on Youtube ALREADY.

kalina

-.-

Sterno

@Frank Well, if I agreed with you, we'd know there was something wrong.

Ben Brocka

14:47

you people. Can horses even swim?

Fluttershy

I've never used a bear. O_o I don't even have a bear.

kalina

fine we can be the mane six snorkellers

Lazers

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Q: Can I find out what data is in the Steam Cloud for my games?

Out of idle curiosity I'm interested to know what files the Steam Cloud contains for my games. Is there anyway of seeing this information, either via a Valve website or an application that maybe uses Steam API's to interrogate the cloud?

steam steam-cloud

kalina

my rainbow dash avatar looks like she's smacked on coke

Sterno

I guess my point is that the point at which he links the audio, it's not even really a video game question anymore. It's a song identification question.

So requiring that seems odd

ElfSlice

14:48

@Assylum if you're worried about Youtube taking issue with you uploading music (which is perfectly reasonable), see if you can upload a snippet to Ge.tt or dropbox or something for us to listen to. =] — ElfSlice 2 mins ago

Is this constructive?

Sconibulus

@ElfSlice seems so

kalina

@Fluttershy you have a strange hat on last time I looked (around the time you first noticed there were hats in chat) that wasn't the snorkel

Fluttershy

@kalina Mane six swim team? I'm okay with this.

Kevin van der Velden

Aah, I missed @OrigamiRobot's one message today!

kalina

I was trying to find a good avatar lastnight to use my unicorn horn

Frank

14:49

@Sterno Which is another problem I have, since it does nothing to play to our strengths.

kalina

and gave up and went with this

completely independently

Frank

But that, apparently, is still something we help with.

Ben Brocka

Are any hats small enough to work with my avatar?

ElfSlice

@BenBrocka No.

Fluttershy

@kalina The snorkel was the first one I wore. I tried that eagle thing for a minute, but it looked dumb, so I went back to the snorkel. It is best hat. Until I get doge. Or Twilight Sparkle.

kalina

14:51

@BenBrocka have a look through my hat collection and see

ElfSlice

@Fluttershy How do you get the doge hat?

kalina

@Fluttershy twilight sparkle is the horn?

Fluttershy

@ElfSlice I dunno. It's apparently a secret hat.

kalina

I have a unicorn horn and ears

but it doesn't fit my avatar properly

I willed gravatar with like 20 pictures of rainbow dash

trying to find one that worked

Fluttershy

@kalina According to that list of hats that Ktash posted, it's her actual face.

kalina

14:52

interesting

wait, list of hats?

Sterno

Hey. Did we ever get the receipt photo for that purple dye?

kalina

that purple hair dye that turned my hair black except under direct light?

no

I should still have it somewhere

Ben Brocka

@kalina A+

kalina

don't even

I was so angry

Ben Brocka

Hat bugs are amusing

Sterno

14:55

Clearly you should just dye your avatar's hair.

ElfSlice

I wonder if I can place a hat so that it obscures my name in chat

kalina

@BenBrocka crackcocaine dash

Ben Brocka

I DO COCAAAAAAAAAAAIN

tombull89

@kalina that's not snow...

kalina

TWENTY PERCENT FASTER?

TWO HUNDRED PERCENT FASTER

FROM ZERO TO AWESOME IN... wait, what was I doing?

OH! FLYING! ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

splat

Sterno

14:57

@OrigamiRobot HATS HATS HATS

kalina

@OrigamiRobot HATS

@OrigamiRobot HATS HATS HATS HATS

ElfSlice

in Mashup , 1 min ago, by Fooxz

http://puu.sh/5PBgW.png <<< no upload button?

wat

Fluttershy

@Sterno Gift received! Thanks!

Rob

In other hat related news I somehow ended up with some rare TF2 hat. I never even play TF2. People kept contacting me over IM to buy it...

sold it for about £15 in the end. Result

ElfSlice

Sterno

14:59

@Rob nice

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