The Bridge

fredley

16:00

@kalina 7/10 (and I'd actually visited one)

kalina

I don't want to look at pictures of toilets

Lazers

0

Q: Ground getting polluted by itself?

After logging in to the game, I suddenly found out most of my city ground is getting poluted. The issue is that, I am running 'green' town, and there was no polution over many days of gameplay, and suddenly lots of it being generated. Also the polution is in very interesting 'mini squares', ple...

simcity

Sterno

File download sites that disguise ads as download buttons are the worst.

14

fbueckert

@Sterno Indeed.

Hate those.

Powerlord

@kalina Why not?

Jason Berkan

16:10

@Sterno Though TBH, they are just file download sites that serve up ads. The advertisers are the ones who know exactly what they are doing.

RedRiderX

@JasonBerkan Very true.

It's more the ad agencies that allow them that are douches.

3ventic

But the download site still has a say on what it shows on its site..

RedRiderX

@3ventic Does it?

FEichinger

@3ventic Yes and No. Depends on the ad network that's used.

3ventic

@FEichinger They can always switch network

kalina

16:12

@3ventic they do, but that normally involves them caring

3ventic

@kalina This.

kalina

they won't generally care unless people complain

and people don't really complain about that kind of thing

FEichinger

A lot of ads are served after the site was scraped for context-sensitive ads. (Oh, hey, that site says "download", let's serve tons of fake download buttons!)

3ventic

People can't care enough for one download to complain

SaintWacko

3ventic

16:13

or they have sense and use adblocker

SaintWacko

@kalina @Fluttershy

fredley

SaintWacko

That's my new base on Tough

Not much to look at yet, but it's great at holding off raiders

kalina

@SaintWacko One of my earlier bases was inside a mountain like that too

RedRiderX

 so glitter
           such daft
    wow

kalina

16:14

you don't even have carpet!

because, carpet requires metal

not sure why that makes sense

SaintWacko

@kalina Haven't done any research yet

Actually

OrigamiRobot

@RedRiderX very luck*

fredley

@RedRiderX many glitter

OrigamiRobot

such daft*

cmon man, you know doge doesn't grammar!

fredley

such pharell

RedRiderX

16:15

I knew I was making too much sense.

THERE I'M DONE

badp

room topic changed to The Bridge: General gaming chat room, wherein everything is fireproof and LAZERS are the new fire. [-....] [-badp-headcanon] [-doge] [-fun] [jin-fanclub] [lazers]*

fredley

@badp silly badp, getting - and + confused

RedRiderX

such topic
                very mod
     wow

2

fredley

            such syntax
very markdown

                                 wow

Sterno

I hate you both.

fredley

16:18

@Sterno You hate everything

Sterno

I like pizza.

fredley

@Sterno hate is equivalent in value to @GnomeSlice links

RedRiderX

                     very hate
     much @sterold
            so grump
wow

FEichinger

Good lord ... Stop it already.

RedRiderX

Okay okay I'm done.

fredley

16:20

@FEichinger Okok, back to ponies it is

FEichinger

@fredley ponies > doge

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OrigamiRobot

such finish

RedRiderX

@OrigamiRobot must resist...

Sterno

At least create an image if you're going to do it, you lazy bastards.

badp

besides, that's so far from the actual thought process I assume dogs have

RedRiderX

16:21

@badp Well, there is only one doge.

badp

I assume the dog mind to be the brain-ification of horror vacui.

FEichinger

Guys, when I out of all people prefer ponies over what you're doing, something has gone terribly terribly wrong.

kalina

@badp ball ball ball there's a ball hey you throw the ball ball throw it ball ball ball ball ball ball ball I need ball ball

2

badp

@kalina yes.

OrigamiRobot

@kalina MOON MOON MOON MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON

RedRiderX

16:22

@FEichinger That's harsh.

Powerlord

►

sjohnston

@SaintWacko What game is this?

SaintWacko

@sjohnston Rimworld

badp

OH WOW A BALL LOOK IT THAT A BALL IS THAT A BALL OH GOD YES YES YES YES A BALL YES PLEASE OWNER OWNER PLEASE OWNER PLEASE OWNER PLEASE PLEASE THROW IT CMON GO BALL THROW GO YOU THROW I FETCH CMON THROW GO NOW PLEASE OH MY GOD YES YES RUN RUN RUN I SMELL YOU BALL I SHALL HAVE THE BALL IT WILL BE MINE AND THEN THERE WILL BE FOOD YES FOOD HMM FOOD FOOD FOOD NOM BALL GET I HASSS THE BALL IT IS MINE OWNER OWNER HEY OWNER OWNER HEY LOOK HERE OWNER LOOK OWNER HEY LISTEN I HAVE THE BALL LOOK SEE BALL

Sterno

My favorite dogs are the ones that neighbors let outside and then leave out there all day long while the bark and bark and bark and bark and bark and bark and bark and bark and bark and bark and bark and bark and bark and bark and bark and bark and bark and

fredley

16:24

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Sterno

@fredley A for effort. F- for doge

Fluttershy

@SaintWacko I'm doing a similar design for my base.

fredley

@Sterno eh

RedRiderX

@fredley -1 for no @Sternold

fredley

@RedRiderX oh ffs

Anna Lear

16:24

@Sterno F is for Fallout, clearly.

Sterno

You revealed my poor MSPaint coloring job of that by blowing it up

SaintWacko

@Fluttershy I've found the funnel, with the pillars for people to hide behind, is incredibly effective

OrigamiRobot

RedRiderX

@OrigamiRobot wow

Sterno

BRB, having a seizure

fredley

16:28

7

RedRiderX

This from the guy who listens to Rebecca Black for fun...

OrigamiRobot

Oh god the comments

fredley

@OrigamiRobot You read YouTube comments. Why?

Lazers

0

Q: China Rising DLC

I pre-ordered my BF4 and got the China rising DLC now I haven't got a chance to put in enough hours to be able to tell you if I played it. But by reading this post it says that the DLC isn't released till the 3rd of Dec. So does that mean even though I put in the code and downloaded the DLC I can...

battlefield-4

RedRiderX

@fredley Much better.

Sterno

16:31

HEY!

Only two months of the year left.

Fluttershy

@OrigamiRobot such comment. many doge. wow.

fredley

@Sterno I'll go on a diet next year

tag team

Sterno

I'll need a new New Year's Chat Resolution.

RedRiderX

@Sterno Less RB.

Or more RB.

I don't judge.

Sterno

@RedRiderX That was last year. I have not directly linked RB in 10 months

Powerlord

16:33

Less Arbys? :O

Sterno

I did once or twice quote Fredley linking it though

RedRiderX

@Sterno Good point.

fredley

5

RedRiderX

@fredley I'm liking this, but I don't know if everyone is.

fredley

@RedRiderX Fine I'll stop

RedRiderX

16:34

But I'm really liking this.

fredley

It's like ponies all over again

Powerlord

@fredley Is it just me, or did this meme get really old, really quickly? mememe

fredley

@Powerlord -fun

OrigamiRobot

yesterday, by OrigamiRobot

Ain't nobody knows how to kill a joke like The Bridge.

badp

@Powerlord No, it's not just you. It's been really dumb since day -500

Powerlord

16:37

~This is no ero story, won't show you smutty CGs, those things aren't romantic to me~ Why is this song stuck in my head?

badp

We have already established that dogs don't think like that

Gaming Topics From Outside

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Q: Would Ubuntu support this GAMING NOTEBOOK?

I just bought a gaming notebook (model G1711) from a local brand in Brazil named Avell. Its configuration is quite advanced and this is the reason for my purchase. However, all of their oficial support relies on Windows 7 or 8, actually. So which Ubuntu vesrion or its derivative Distro I'd probab...

nvidia sound games support derivatives

OrigamiRobot

What do you know? Blueberries don't even have brains.

Sterno

@OrigamiRobot Unsure if you're intentionally being ironic by quoting that repeatedly.

Powerlord

@OrigamiRobot Castles don't have phones.

badp

16:38

Actually, the dumber the dog, the higher their frequency of thought is

OrigamiRobot

@Sterno That's not irony.

Sterno

What, we can abuse "literal" in here, but not "ironic"?

OrigamiRobot

What abuse?

FEichinger

@Sterno No, we can't do either. ò.ó

fredley

@OrigamiRobot No abuse in here. Nope. Move right along.

kalina

16:44

@Sterno it's actually 1 month and 3 weeks

Sterno

@kalina Well, if we're being all anal about it, it's technically 1 month, 3 weeks, and 5 days

awaits an answer of greater precision

kalina

I'm not going to type what I was going to say

Sterno

Disappointing

fredley

spritelamp.com

Sterno

Anyone try out Paper Sorcerer yet? I Kickstarter'd it, but am too lazy to try it.

OrigamiRobot

16:55

Paper you say?

Lazers

0

Q: Looking for a particular dota 2 video

I am looking for a particular dota 2 video. What i remember is: I saw it on youtube Was of some famous team (dont remember which one exactly) There was somebody playing templar Assassin, korlak is the name I remember. TA was almost singlehandedly doing the damage, had 800+ XP/min and gold/min a...

dota-2

Tim Stone

I wonder how @Jin will be able to resist the temptation of inserting bacon into the design of ham.SE if it eventually graduates.

kalina

@fredley we're both on row 3

fbueckert

@Lazers burn

GnomeSlice

Okay, so Operation Smash is pretty cool.

OrigamiRobot

17:00

110 REP TO GO

kalina

@OrigamiRobot LET ME HELP YOU WITH THAT

SaintWacko

@fredley That's impressive. Not perfect, but very nice

GnomeSlice

fredley

@kalina I know

@kalina Still a healthy 2k gap

I should make it up to two, at least for a bit, before you catch up

kalina

@fredley by my reckoning that gap consists of: 1k rep from edits (which I can't recover), and ~700 rep from the bounties that are no longer associated with my account

not to mention all of the +4 reps from tag wiki edits, which I can't recover

fredley

17:03

@kalina Meh, still a gap

Imaginary rep is imaginary

kalina

Sounds like fighting talk

fredley

@kalina I'm not about to enter into a rep battle

You can fight one against me, but I won't fight back

John

@fredley BUT THE POWAH

kalina

@fredley only because you know I'd win

GnomeSlice

kickstarter.com/projects/829559023/confederate-express

Sterno

17:06

@fredley cheats by releasing his own games and answering questions about them.

kalina

@Sterno this is also true

I have about 10 questions I could ask right now, I'm just too lazy to type them up

not to mention I could MSO my missing bounties

fbueckert

@kalina I just got home from shopping, it's 11 AM, and I feel like I had a productive day.

kalina

@fbueckert I woke up like an hour ago

fredley

@Sterno Because investing hundreds of hours making a game was the fastest way to earn rep

kalina

I got out of bed without falling over, I feel like I had a productive day

Sterno

17:08

@fredley It's not my fault you're really inefficient at this compared to @kalina.

kalina

@fredley then you did the whole candy box thing, where you asked every single question before anybody else had realised the game was out

@Sterno oooh burn

OrigamiRobot

@kalina Every single question about every miniscule detail.

GnomeSlice

I am so stressed out about this dumb job interview later

kalina

@OrigamiRobot EVERY SINGLE QUESTION

@GnomeSlice take a chill pill

GnomeSlice

@kalina If only that were a real thing

John

17:10

It amuses me how everyone is having this deep conversation about reputation, and @GnomeSlice is still spouting random stuff.

kalina

@GnomeSlice It... is...

It's called Diazepam

GnomeSlice

@kalina Never heard of it

@badp Say, you like speedrunning games, right?

Sterno

This conversation qualified as deep?

kalina

well obviously not, since you didn't realise a chill pill was a real thing

John

@Sterno This is the Bridge. Standards aren't high.

GnomeSlice

17:12

This weekend you can buy my game Operation Smash at https://indiegamestand.com/, pay what you want! 10% goes to @WWF.

Tweeted by steveolofsson on November 8, 2013 at 8:56 AM

OrigamiRobot

@Sterno Considering the normal topics here, yes.

GnomeSlice

@badp This game is basically meant to be speedrunned, if you are interested.

Ben Brocka

Microsoft is about to turn your TV into a smartphone. http://f-st.co/8EVI8l7 http://t.co/J6nF250ai9

Tweeted by FastCoDesign on November 8, 2013 at 5:09 PM

Sterno

The bar is depressingly low in here.

Ben Brocka

That's an outstanding way of describing why I dont' care about it

John

17:12

@BenBrocka But I can't fit that in my pocket.

GnomeSlice

Also

Indie Royale The Debut 6 Bundle http://bit.ly/1iS10wK @indieroyale http://t.co/wk1X0z3tEF

Tweeted by IndieDB on November 8, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Ullallulloo

@MBraedley Based on Google, the US terms are more well-understood. We don't use Lycan Wars just because it's international. Since this is a US site, I don't see why we would use more obscure terms just because they're international. — Ullallulloo 9 mins ago

Sterno

GnomeRSSlice

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fredley

@kalina That was a good day

kalina

@fredley no it wasn't, that was the day I was fired

how insensitive

John

17:15

@kalina got "fired"...heehee..

kalina

@John ...

John

@kalina (In case it's not obvious, there's an actual joke in there and I'm not just being insensitive too >.> )

kalina

@BenBrocka I actually think this works quite well

Ben Brocka

I like my smartphone, but as a gaming device it's a time waster at best. I don't care about that other crap when I'm sat down in front of my TV for a game

kalina

@BenBrocka yeah but the TV integration means that you get game overlays on top of TV for like friend invites to games or skype phone calls etc

Ben Brocka

17:19

I guess, I have zero desire for the TV integration though

Skype is the only thing that sounds useful for me

And since I usually prefer local co-op it's still not a great selling point

kalina

I duno, I'm a sucker for integration that works well

Ben Brocka

I'm sure the sports TV call of duty crowd will love it though

Given Windows 8 I'm not sure how much I trust their multitasking

kalina

what do you mean?

Ben Brocka

It is an incredibly annoyingly binary experience

Very smartphone-y, each single app steals the whole stage

fredley

@kalina A good day for m... Oh never mind

Ben Brocka

17:22

I just immediately went to Desktop mode and never touched metro stuff though. Every metro app had a better version in desktop

kalina

@BenBrocka Windows 8.1 does a lot to improve multitasking with apps

I don't know how much of that will be in XBONE

OrigamiRobot

0

A: Mii Plaza mini games have different names worldwide than in the US, can the tags be synonymised?

Why don't we just avoid the US vs Worldwide debate and use streetpass-mii-plaza for all the minigames? Just leave off the individual tags. We don't have individual tags for wii-bowling and wii-tennis. We just have wii-sports. If Mii Plaza is one application with multiple minigames, I don't se...

Ben Brocka

I almost wish I got to try win 8.1, but it'd probably just be slightly less annoying

kalina

I duno, I like Windows 8

Ben Brocka

I just want win 8's file copy dialogs and task manager in 7, really

2

Ullallulloo

17:26

@ori hmm,I guess that would work. It makes sense.

kalina

meh

There is no real issue with metro

Ben Brocka

Aside from the fact that it's useless garbage

kalina

that's not completely true though

Ben Brocka

I multitask far too much to use my computer like a shitty iPad

kalina

for example, it's a pretty awesome search screen

metro doesn't stop you from multitasking

FEichinger

17:27

The break in the workflow that Metro introduces is just pointless on a work PC.

Ben Brocka

Only having a single app or snapping two apps (that are designed for full screen) significantly impeeds mutlitasking, as does not having a visible taskbar

There's nothing that helps but a few things that hurts, making it mostly a straight downgrade

kalina

@BenBrocka The desktop is an app

fbueckert

I called this spam, but I'm not exactly sure WHAT it is

kalina

Just change the way you work to match the way the OS works

I pin everything I use frequently to my taskbar

and everything else I need I search for in metro

FEichinger

@kalina ... And this is exactly why people are moving away from Windows.

kalina

17:28

I have a page of active tiles on the first page of metro

that give me a bunch of at a glance info

FEichinger

Or at least condemning it if they don't have the option.

kalina

and the rest of the time I'm either on my desktop or searching in metro

It's not hard to use

I can't imagine it's more of a shift than the Windows 3.x to 95 shift was

Ben Brocka

It's just unnecessary layers though. Everything Windows 8 does right windows 7 does the same or better, with some minor exceptions. To get windows 8 working how I want I basically have to cut out all of the new features (metro, start screen)

2

kalina

since that completely changed the user interface

@BenBrocka I don't see this as an issue

FEichinger

@kalina No, but there's hardly any benefit to the change and instead you have to adapt to a wholly new workflow. That is nonsense.

kalina

17:29

I click on the start button like 4 times a week

@FEichinger A more efficient workflow

Ben Brocka

There's nothing efficient about it

kalina

Having everything pinned to the taskbar cuts out multiple clicks on the start menu

in any version of windows

FEichinger

What's efficient about adding another layer of different UI to it?

Ben Brocka

only if you never leave certain apps. Every transition to metro harshes the experience

kalina

@BenBrocka There is more than enough space for 20+ applications on the taskbar

if you use more than 20+ applications, you likely have multiple monitors

which means you have space for 40+ applications

Ben Brocka

17:31

I mean Metro

kalina

Stop focussing on metro like it underpins your argument

Ben Brocka

the desktop is the same, except the lack of startbar and, more annoyingly, the jarring switches to Metro that random-ass stuff forces you to do

kalina

Metro is a great search screen and a nice dashboard if you set it up right

Ben Brocka

Well if you only focus on the stuff windows 8 does the same as 7 then yes, windows 8 is just like 7

FEichinger

@kalina The thing is that you largely cannot avoid Metro. And Metro is a hassle.

kalina

17:32

@FEichinger This isn't true

Windows 8.1 is far less "jarring" when you switch to metro, since it behaves now as you'd expect, especially in a multimonitor environment

It boots to desktop, rather than metro

The side scrolling with up/down mousewheel has been switched to moving up and down

There is nothing wrong with it other than you wanting to stick to the last 10 years of computing

Windows 8 is not only faster than Windows 7, it's more resource efficient

It is - IMO - the best OS Microsoft have ever made

Ullallulloo

@kalina This does not sound like a good design if you have to do that.

kalina

@Ullallulloo Switching to another OS will require the same

Switching from Windows 3.x to 95 would have required the same

You can't expect things to get better if you're not willing to accept change

SaintWacko

@Fluttershy @kalina I have 6 colonists right now. Just fought off a wave of 12 raiders

kalina

@SaintWacko nice

SaintWacko

Two colonists downed, but rescued them both

And got a prisoner

Yuki

17:35

@SaintWacko I got overrun by psychically enraged squirrels.

TIL Turrets don't target squirrels.

SaintWacko

@Yuki Oh, I hate that one

kalina

@Yuki I lost multiple members of my colony to an enraged muffalo

FEichinger

@kalina Here's the thing, though, the change has, in my opinion, not made things better. It's change for the sake of change, rather than actually improving anything - aside from being a glorified tablet OS.

SaintWacko

as soon as I see one of those messages, I enlist all my colonists

kalina

@FEichinger how many hours have you used Windows 8?

FEichinger

17:37

@kalina It ran on my PC for a good three months until I BSOD'd it and went back to 7.

kalina

@FEichinger 8 or 8.1?

I've used it as my primary OS on all computers I used since the special offer they launched it with

FEichinger

@kalina You honestly think I'm going back to trying that messy pile of nonsense that I have to adapt to so I can avoid it?

kalina

@FEichinger 8.1 makes reasonable improvements

FEichinger

Seriously, your description of "adapting to Win8" is basically "Here's how you can avoid Metro as much as possible except for the parts it does kinda nice."

kalina

nope, I did actually say I use metro

for the things it's intended to be used for

Also, 8.1 changes the apps list in metro so it no longer shows all of the stupid stuff it was showing in 8

like readme files

so the apps list is now actually just a full screen start menu

FEichinger

17:39

And that's my experience: I have to adapt so I use Metro as little as possible, because every time I interact with Metro is a break to my workflow.

kalina

then you're using metro completely differently to the way I use it

I find the start screen incredibly useful

FEichinger

8.1 may well have made some things better. But at the end of the day, Metro is a tacked-on nonsensical layer.

kalina

Not really, it's just a full screen start menu with animated tiles

that handles the sorting and grouping of your applications far better than any previous start menu did

GnomeSlice

Risk of Rain and Project Zomboid are now on Steam.

RedRiderX

@GnomeSlice Risk of Rain is done?

GnomeSlice

17:43

@RedRiderX I'm not sure actually... It's not early access is it... I didn't think it was done...

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlice What's your jarb interview fer?

GnomeSlice

@Fluttershy The Source.

Fluttershy

I don't know what that is.

Pretend I'm not from Canada.

GnomeSlice

@Fluttershy Used to be Radio Shack

FEichinger

@kalina Here's the thing, though: Other operating systems offer me a large start menu with nice grouping + workspace switching + window switching + favourite apps all in one screen, one button press away. Metro, however, has hardly improved anything over the previous start menu except for making it pretty and easier to maneuver - while ripping the start menu out of the usual workspace.

GnomeSlice

17:48

@Fluttershy It's a technology store.

Yuki

@GnomeSlice Huh. They're still called Radio Shack where I live.

Ben Brocka

We've always been an #Asgardian. #Thor #SeeWhatWeDidThere http://t.co/xmK2qOCReY

Tweeted by Charmin on November 8, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlice Oooh. Good luck! Don't take a diazepam or Valium beforehand. That's a bad idea.

Krazer

@GnomeSlice In the Matrix?

FEichinger

And then there's the various parts where Metro likes to pretend it's more than just the start menu. And that's when things get really annoying.

fbueckert

17:49

@Fluttershy But...you're NOT from Canada.

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka wtf

Ben Brocka

Fluttershy

@fbueckert Shhhh.

Ben Brocka

If he were canadian he would be a moose instead of a squirrelpony

fbueckert

@BenBrocka Moose are mean.

fredley

17:51

@BenBrocka Ass guardian?

Krazer

@fredley yes, that is the punchline.

kalina

@FEichinger Using the "other operating systems..." argument is counter your "changing my workflow" argument

GnomeSlice

@Fluttershy you're a fan of metroidvanias, right?

fredley

@Krazer That pun is so awful I failed to process it

Yuki

@fredley Most companies aren't terribly well-known for their wit.

Krazer

17:53

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlice Yis.

GnomeSlice

@Fluttershy You should grab Operation Smash while it's on IndieGameStand. Really liking it so far.

FEichinger

@kalina Not really. My problem isn't so much the change to the workflow, it's the break to it. Metro introduces change for the sake of change, and rips it all out. A different OS offers a different workflow with actual benefits to the change.

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlice I'll look at it when I get home from work. Thanks!

FEichinger

Metro is like a kid dancing on the highway singing about how fabulous it is.

GnomeSlice

17:59

Okay, I'm really liking this game.

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