The Bridge

kalina

7:00 PM

as usual for British TV shows, 2 seasons, 7 episodes per season

Ben Brocka

GameStick public launch delayed, backers reporting crashes http://sbn.to/HNjwud

Tweeted by Polygon on November 8, 2013 at 7:01 PM

womp womp

Fluttershy

The UK version of Being Human was way better than the US version...

OrigamiRobot

@Fluttershy I couldn't get in to that show. Never bothered with the US version

Ben Brocka

I guess the good thing about the Ouya yearly refresh is these microconsoles are probably never going to be perfect/usable in the first batch

Pokewalker vs wii u fitmeter

Fluttershy

Further proof that Call of Duty games just reskin old garbage.

ManishEarth

7:05 PM

@kalina I downloaded it, I think this will work

so no blame for you

kalina

victorious

ManishEarth

meh, I'll find something else to blame you for

hey, I'm hungry. your fault

kalina

you can't, I left the DMZ

there's nothing to blame me for

ManishEarth

bleh

fbueckert

Woo! Finished putting together my first model.

kalina

7:08 PM

@fbueckert this sounds like a productive thing to be doing instead of looking for work

TZHX

@Fluttershy Call of Duty has a single player mode?

fbueckert

@kalina I need some rest from job stuff.

Putting together models is a nice distraction.

kalina

@fbueckert I'm using this reasoning too

fbueckert

And with that, all my productive stuff planned for the day is done. Even cleaned the bathroom!

kalina

sounds like you had... fun

fbueckert

7:10 PM

@kalina If you can call it that. I called it checking stuff off the list of stuff that needed doing.

kalina

clean the oven, get high off the oven cleaner fumes

fbueckert

So now it's lunchtime, and then more Guided Fate Paradox.

Lazers

0

Q: Skill points acquired during training and skill books and respecing

My question is: When i get some skill points in for example Blacksmithing, Detect Hidden etc by reading books and using trainers, will i get those skill points back when i respec my char at fatewaever? Or those points will be gone?

kingdoms-amalur-reckoning

kalina

my random downvoter is back!

I blame @fredley

just trying to get that edge on me all of the time

GnomeSlice

Yuki

7:15 PM

@GnomeSlice So... two more hours?

GnomeSlice

@Yuki shrug

3ventic

What's AMA?

Ben Brocka

ask me anything

they go on Reddit and answer questions

Yuki

@3ventic American Musical Aardvarks.

Ben Brocka

those are probably also on reddit

Yuki

7:18 PM

So... did we ever find out what caused the numerous SteamAppXXXX entries in the Steam Library?

kalina

@Yuki half life 3

Yuki

@kalina I refuse to be believe that Valve will ever release anything with a title of <franchise name> 3.

Unionhawk

@Yuki L4D3 is already definitely going to be a thing, so...

Yuki

@Unionhawk Lies!

Unionhawk

Okay, whatever.

Ullallulloo

7:21 PM

@BenBrocka Only thing I can find is a British musical aardvark

RedRiderX

U.S., Israel lose UNESCO voting right in dispute over Palestinians

But maybe this isn't the best link for this room...

Ullallulloo

@Yuki It was a bug with Mac versions and betas, IIRC.

kalina

eh

Powerlord

@RedRiderX The best link for this room is one of ones that saves Zelda.

kalina

I clicked "delete" on mod tools

got no message

clicked it again, and it cast an undelete vote

RedRiderX

7:24 PM

@Powerlord Badum tiss

kalina

SYSTEM IS BROKEN

Powerlord

Yeesh, I'm still at work for 3 more hours? :O

Unionhawk

@kalina obvious deleted account bug

Powerlord

kicks @Wipqozn

5

RedRiderX

@RedRiderX Basically the US and Israel stopped paying UNESCO dues because Palestine got recognized as a country, and now they lose their seats.

Powerlord

7:25 PM

My day is going turtle slow, so it must be Wipqozn's fault.

kalina

@Unionhawk obv

Powerlord

> "The United States must not voluntarily forfeit its leadership in the world community," Rep. Keith Ellison, a Democrat from Minnesota, told The Associated Press in an email.

Yes we should.

Or did this guy forget that most of the world hates the US?

Ullallulloo

@kalina EA is in direct competition to Call of Duty.

kalina

oh wait

3ventic

@kalina lol'd

EA doesn't have a monopoly yet

kalina

7:32 PM

COUGH

NO EVIDENCE

Ullallulloo

No fun

Powerlord

Still, I'm surprised that Activision didn't try releasing it on Blizzard's store thingy

kalina

I forgot Activision was even a thing

do they actually release anything that isn't COD?

3ventic

Activision bought themselves recently

Powerlord

Speaking of which, I need to find out if my Blizzard account works again now that North America is back in sync with Europe.

3ventic

7:33 PM

I'm pretty sure they release a lot of stuff..

kalina

I know they used to be heavily involved with id

Powerlord

@kalina It's Activision Blizzard now, so stuff like Diablo 3 falls under their umbrella.

GnomeSlice

GameStick review

kalina

before id became a subsidiary of Bethesda

3ventic

activision.com/games?cc=US;i=1;q=*

kalina

7:34 PM

@Powerlord ok rephrase, swap "release" with "develop"

@3ventic ok so... no, they don't

Powerlord

@kalina Activision itself became a publisher long ago.

Fluttershy

@kalina You forget room owners can view the history of the deleted item. There will always be evidence.

Powerlord

Which is funny seeing as how they were one of the first third-party video game developers.

kalina

@Fluttershy NO EVIDENCE

Blizztivision isn't even a company I pay attention to anymore

Ullallulloo

@kalina Destiny and Cabella

3ventic

7:36 PM

I'm only interested in blizzard because hearthstone looks cool

and I want to try it

kalina

@Ullallulloo is Destiny the game that the remains of Bungie made after being cut loose from Microsoft?

Ullallulloo

@kalina yeah

kalina

do... that other company

makers of Unreal

actually make games anymore?

Epic?

GnomeSlice

Destiny ^

kalina

oh right, they moved on to making gears of war

that explains why I don't pay them any attention anymore

Lazers

7:38 PM

0

Q: How can I tighten security?

A couple of times, when I've been tasked with locating rebel scum within the Death Star, I received a message saying that the hero had escaped my clutches (even though I tracked him down). How can I prevent this from happening?

tiny-death-star

Ben Brocka

they work on Gears of War and apparently infinity blade

But the most relevant thing they do is definitely Unreal Engine

kalina

I'm sure I played a game recently using the Unreal engine, that's what reminded me of them

can't remember what it was though

Ben Brocka

Lots of things are, even non-FPS games are

kalina

isn't it about time for another Unreal Tournament?

Ben Brocka

Borderlands 2 was for sure, GG Xrd is being made in UE

I'd love another UT, not sure how well 3 turned out

I actually own it due to the Unreal Deal pack

UT99 will probably always be my favorite though

kalina

7:40 PM

There was a time when pretty much every FPS ran on either an ID engine or an Unreal engine

wait, is it Deus Ex Human Revolution that uses the Unreal engine?

Blem

@GnomeSlice so much potential :(

GnomeSlice

@Blem =[

Tim Stone

@BenBrocka Mass Effect is an Unreal Engine series too

RedRiderX

@kalina Well pretty much every FPS was cloning either an ID or Unreal game.

kalina

@TimStone was, the new ones use Frostbite 3

It must have been the Batman game I played that uses the Unreal engine

Ben Brocka

7:42 PM

Dishonored is UE too

and xcom

kalina

I guess Epic took ID's business model and executed it better than they did

GnomeSlice

WTF ENSLAVED IS ON STEAM

kalina

and then limited themselves to high sale console games

GnomeSlice

$20 is a fucking steal for that game

Ben Brocka

@kalina UE's engine is a lot more versitile than Doom's engine though

Lazers

7:44 PM

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Q: Avoiding killer croc bite in boss fight

I'm really struggling with the first boss fight. I can manage to get killer croc down to one bar, but at that point I'm at half health just from the bite during the QTE. I'm really struggling to avoid the three henchmen that pop-up. I always get hit in the middle of a block action by the croc. ...

batman-arkham-origins

Ben Brocka

and, at the time, they were still regularly making new games

kalina

@BenBrocka ID is circling the drain as far as I'm concerned

Ben Brocka

Does ID even do anything?

kalina

they've not made anything worth playing in a decade and their technology isn't that good either

Blem

@GnomeSlice I did like what they did to end the show, though i would have prefered to see it go on for another season or 2

kalina

7:45 PM

@BenBrocka they're working on Doom 4

GnomeSlice

@Blem Yeah, I guess. But we'll never know if Eli survived...

kalina

@BenBrocka they cancelled it and started again, then John Carmack left and joined Occulus

Ben Brocka

Last I recall was Doom 3's console port/DLC bundle

The coolest thing about Doom 3 was the mod that recreated Doom One in the new engine, and they Cease and Desisted it

kalina

@BenBrocka you mean the transferring of Doom 3 into the RAGE engine and then releasing it without testing it right?

@BenBrocka This is very unlike ID

Ben Brocka

@kalina yeah I was surprised

kalina

7:47 PM

I mean up until John Carmack left, they still frequently released their old engines as opensource

I don't know if they're going to keep doing it

I reckon Bethesda will shut it down at some point anyway

Ben Brocka

Well they supported mods, I think they just had a problem with a mod recreating Doom

kalina

If you look at everything ID have ever released, they've all been tech demos for the engines rather than actual games

Ben Brocka

though of course it's a very different game with real 3D

kalina

with the exception of Wolfenstein 3D and the first couple of Dooms

all of the later Wolfensteins weren't made by ID, they were made by Raven

and Quake 2, 3, 4 and Doom 3 were really just showing off the engines

GnomeSlice

Hexen?

kalina

7:49 PM

@GnomeSlice made by Raven

GnomeSlice

Heretic?

kalina

@GnomeSlice made by Raven

GnomeSlice

Bleh

3ventic

wolfenstein ET is great

kalina

@3ventic made by Splash Damage

3ventic

7:50 PM

@kalina ik

I just said it's great since you mentioned wolfenstein

Sterno

Wolf 3D was pretty awesome back in the day.

kalina

@3ventic made by Raven

Sterno

Wolf 3D might be older than @kalina and @GnomeSlice

I remember playing it when it came out. :(

kalina

@Sterno Wolf 3D is definitely older than me, I think Doom might be as well

sec

Sterno

Wolf 3D was 92

kalina

7:52 PM

@Sterno Doom was released when I was 10 months old

you view Doom as groundbreaking and important for the games industry

I view Doom as quaint

"really? Games used to look this bad?"

GnomeSlice

My dad used to play so much Doom

Sterno

I remember Wolf 3D more fondly than Doom because it was way easier to make your own maps.

GnomeSlice

he'd play it when he was taking breaks from work.

SaintWacko

Wow

GnomeSlice

He knows like every single secret in all of the games

SaintWacko

7:53 PM

One of my colonists just got struck by lightning

kalina

@SaintWacko happens

Ben Brocka

@kalina didn't realize raven made all of that stuff

kalina

@SaintWacko I had a conduit in a wall overload from Lightning, blew up half of my base and everything connected to it

GnomeSlice

Also, a nice freeware doom-like game is Pit

SaintWacko

@kalina conduits blowing up is stupid

Sterno

7:54 PM

I went to some summer camp college thing in Eau Claire, Wisconsin and Wolf 3D was on one of the library computers there. I bought a 3.5" floppy disk for like $5 so I could copy it and take it home.

kalina

@BenBrocka yeah Raven (and later Activision, when they bought Raven) loved licensing ID engines

Sterno

Ah, the good old days.

SaintWacko

I really hope he removes that

GnomeSlice

Also Snorms was inspired by doom.

Ben Brocka

Activision bought them? Augh

kalina

7:55 PM

@BenBrocka in 1997, according to Wikipedia

GnomeSlice

Also

kalina

Which means Activision was in control when they made both of the Wolfenstein remakes

Coronus

@BenBrocka And all the Heretic guys left.

kalina

I thought RTCW was pretty decent

I didn't like the latest one

GnomeSlice

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doomish

kalina

7:57 PM

The most successful game ever made using an ID engine was Half Life

GnomeSlice

@kalina It wasn't Doom?

kalina

@GnomeSlice Half Life was more successful than Doom, Doom was shareware

Jason Berkan

Doom was shareware. We all played the first level and never bothered paying for any more.

GnomeSlice

I didn't know that

My dad has all of the Doom games, except Doom3

Powerlord

@JasonBerkan First campaign, which was 8 levels (9 counting the secret level)

GnomeSlice

7:58 PM

The silly modern one

Sterno

I remember the first time I played Dark Forces, I got stuck about three levels in because I needed to jump and didn't know such a thing was possible, because prior to that in FPS games, there was no jumping.

Powerlord

@GnomeSlice Doom 4 is due out... next year?

GnomeSlice

@Powerlord Okay?

Jason Berkan

@Sterno I remember playing GoldenEye and going WTF? You can't jump!

Krazer

Anyone watch the Notch interview on Craig?

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Powerlord

7:59 PM

@GnomeSlice The point being... don't refer to Doom 3 as the "modern" one. :P

Especially since it's a decade or so old by now.

GnomeSlice

@Powerlord It's more modern than the older ones...

Jason Berkan

Though I quit Dark Forces when you had to punch a friggin' Rancor to death.

kalina

@Powerlord there is technically a port of Doom 3 into the RAGE engine, which is relatively new

the problem is, Doom 3 was full of jump scares because of the lighting limitations

and porting it to the RAGE engine removed those limitations and gave you a flashlight on your big guns

removing the feeling from the game

GnomeSlice

Whichever one the movie was based on

kalina

@GnomeSlice The movie... hah

GnomeSlice

8:00 PM

Haven't seen it

Sterno

Anyway, Thief 2 is best FPS

kalina

@Sterno Deus Ex, depending on how long we're going to argue about it being an FPS

Fluttershy

@SaintWacko I had a colonist try to put a fire out last night. She managed to set herself on fire, and ran around frantically for a while before the rain put the fire out.

Sterno

@kalina I will accept that as a valid opinion, though not my own. I liked Thief 2 better.

SaintWacko

@Fluttershy Yeah, I've had that happen. Colonists are stupid

Sterno

8:02 PM

I can't wait to see how much further they drive the series into the ground with Thi4f

Fluttershy

It was hilarious. But at the same time, I felt bad.

kalina

@Sterno their

Sterno

@kalina I don't know what you're talking about.

kalina

@Sterno you left evidence in the edit history

Sterno

25 secs ago, by Sterno

@kalina I don't know what you're talking about.

kalina

8:03 PM

I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE

Unionhawk

@Sterno you left evidence for yourself to see o_O

kalina

10/10 for LEAVE NO EVIDENCE.

SaintWacko

Oh wow

16 raiders just landed

Tim Stone

Lazers

0

Q: What is a good way to earn Supreme Slayer?

One of the more challenging achievements in the Steam version of Desktop Dungeons is Supreme Slayer, which requires you to slay a monster nine levels higher than you. In other words, you need to defeat a level 10 monster at level 1. Any good ideas on how to accomplish this? All items, classes,...

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Tim Stone

8:04 PM

10/10 for mod abuse

5

wins

Sterno

@TimStone Flagged as offensive.

kalina

@TimStone Congratulations, you win at Stack Exchange

Tim Stone

@Sterno It's true, I photoshopped it to slander you

\o/

Sterno

I was going to move it to Android Hell to abuse room ownership, but I can't find that room to move it to

Ben Brocka

@JasonBerkan next two worlds were worth it IMO. Inferno had some really cool designs

And doom 2 had some really cool levels. And a couple very confusing annoying levels

kalina

8:08 PM

obviously the best game ID ever made was Quake 3 Arena

Jason Berkan

@BenBrocka I hated the Doom engine. Too fast / skate-y. I don't think I finished the entire free part of the game.

Ben Brocka

It was part of the feel. Not for everyone, and a bit usual compared to modern games, but it was an interesting fast paced style

kalina

maybe not technically, but because of the whole multiplayer only thing

fast paced FPS were the best kind of FPS

GnomeSlice

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They used my introooooo

kalina

the silly slow paced console stuff ruins the genre

Jason Berkan

8:11 PM

@kalina Until you were tasked with jumping over something. Then it's just massively frustrating, as you fall and die, fall and die, fall and die, fall and die, ...

Sterno

Let's make a new file and stuff!

SaintWacko

Anyone played Lost Planet?

GnomeSlice

@SaintWacko YES

kalina

@JasonBerkan I never had any issues with the FPS platforming complaint that many others do

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice I'm guessing you loved it too :D

GnomeSlice

8:13 PM

@SaintWacko Yessssssss

SaintWacko

The grappling hook combat, and the VS suits

Holy shit

That VS at the end was amazing

GnomeSlice

@SaintWacko Have you played LostPlanet 2 or 3?

Tim Stone

@GnomeSlice Nice!

GnomeSlice

I haven't played 3 yet.

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice No, I need to get them

Jason Berkan

8:13 PM

@kalina You are young and grew up on video games. Us old guys have poor hand / eye co-ordination.

GnomeSlice

@SaintWacko 2 is so good, there is an unbelievable amount of weapons and grenades and other gear

Although if you play online everyone uses the sand raider female body with the jiggly chest

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice I'll have to pick it up

GnomeSlice

I've gotta go out for a bit

peace

Sterno

Jiggle physics.

Ben Brocka

@JasonBerkan Doom only has a very few areas where "jumping" is even a thing

and IIRC jumping was just running off a ledge really fast

and hoping you didn't lose altitude before hitting the next platform

kalina

8:15 PM

World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor is the next expansion

Ben Brocka

technically the Doom engine was a very weird and interesting 2D space

Jason Berkan

@BenBrocka Wasn't there a section where you had to jump over a bunch of pillars? Or was that Quake?

Sterno

WTF do people still play WOW?

Jason Berkan

My memory of those games is not very good.

Unionhawk

Apparently

kalina

8:16 PM

@BenBrocka yeah Doom was actually a 2D game, the engine didn't support overlapping levels or anything like that

Ben Brocka

Think that must be quake, jumping more almost didn't exist in Doom

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Ben Brocka

It's necessary for some secrets and possibly a few levels, but not much

Sterno

Yeah, Quake was all about rocket jumping.

Ben Brocka

and it's not hard other than knowing where to jump

kalina

8:17 PM

@Sterno millions of people

Ben Brocka

Well, where to run off

Sterno

@kalina The question was WHY

kalina

@Sterno WTF = what, not why

but, people get hooked into MMOs because of the collections and achievements

Sterno

"What the fuck do people play WOW?" makes no sense. Nor does "who". I'd have given you "when".

Jason Berkan

Regardless, Doom and its ilk annoyed me enough that I went back to Panzer General and HoMM.

Never to play FPS again (until BioShock).

Sterno

8:19 PM

I was basically trying to avoid saying the word "fuck" because it's fucking rude and I'm a fucking gentleman.

kalina

@Sterno "WTF, do people still play WoW?" works, dropping punctuation is acceptable on the internet

Ben Brocka

@Sterno where is also possible

Personally I play it in the women's bathroom on my Surface Tablet

Jin

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Ben Brocka

@Jin Is it a legal requirement that MOBA heros never thematically match?

I can always tell it's a MOBA because the mismatched diversity of player characters

kalina

@BenBrocka It spells that they're running out of creative ideas

It's like Batman vs Superman

but in the world of gaming

Ben Brocka

8:24 PM

@kalina That came out earlier, actually

kalina

it's much easier, cheaper, and quicker to mix and match IPs than create new ones

and Blizzard are probably still a bit sore over Valve poaching DOTA

SaintWacko

I now have 6 colonists all wielding R-4 pulse rifles

The only problem is that they put out so much damage that I can't take prisoners

No one survives :(

Ben Brocka

@kalina Well LOL does the same thing and it's all original IPs isn't it? And DOTA2?

kalina

@SaintWacko I actually noticed later in the game that I couldn't get more colonists, once my overview page was full it was like it was hard coded not to allow it to scroll

@BenBrocka yeah but the original concept was done with DOTA the mod for WC3

which used Blizzard IPs

I guess everything after it just inherited that

Jason Berkan

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Lazers

8:29 PM

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Q: Do ethereals explode when they die?

When an ethereal dies, there is an animation where it is consumed by purple light. Does this do any damage to surrounding units? I had always assumed that it was purely a visual effect. However, an experience today made me wonder about that. A single ethereal was the last remaining enemy on a m...

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Gaming Topics From Outside

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I want to be able to play the game N, but I can't figure out what to use other than archive manager to open it. Here is the link to the game download. http://www.thewayoftheninja.org/n.html