The Bridge

Michael Dunfield

19:05

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CC @Wipqozn

Yuki

So, I just stopped my university student center.

And found a poster of Van Gogh's painting of the exploding TARDIS.

Michael Dunfield

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Yuki

@MichaelDunfield Huh. Top comment says "GFTO: Gay Fvcking Turtle's Opinion"

Someone doesn't like you, @Wipqozn.

Michael Dunfield

@Yuki It's youtube.

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OrigamiRobot

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Michael Dunfield

19:15

@OrigamiRobot Who?

OrigamiRobot

Me. I am @GnomeSlice

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Wipqozn

@MichaelDunfield CAll yourself what you want, you'll always be @GnomeSlice.

If I ever meet you in RL I'll call you @GNomeslice.

If we ever worked together at a work place, I'd call you @Gnomeslice.

If we ever got married, I'd call you @Gnomeslice.

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Yuki

Me? I'd call you Tim.

Michael Dunfield

@Wipqozn Do you pronounce the @?

Yuki

@MichaelDunfield It's pronounced "GnomeSlice".

So you'd be called "GnomeSliceGnomeSlice".

OrigamiRobot

19:20

I am become @GnomeSlice

Michael Dunfield

@GnomeSlice You may use the name if you want.

GnomeSlice

@MichaelDunfield Don't tell me what I can and can't do.

user15026

This is way too confusing to deal with.

Michael Dunfield

@GnomeSlice My bad.

@AshleyNunn Me?

@GnomeSlice You could have asked my permission to use the gravatar.

Wipqozn

I like this new @GnomeSlice.

user15026

19:23

throws rocks at everyone

GnomeSlice

@MichaelDunfield I drew this gravatar myself

Michael Dunfield

@GnomeSlice No, I did.

And I didn't 'draw' it.

user15026

Honestly! You expect me to keep up with these ridiculous name changes :P

Ben Brocka

Are you kidding me

Michael Dunfield

@GnomeSlice this could actually be an interesting experiment in seeing if I'm full of crap when I complain about how people treat me.

Wipqozn

19:25

@GnomeSlice I love you <3

We should be best friends.

Michael Dunfield

Let's see if @fbueckert can figure out why he can suddenly see me again

Jason Berkan

I'm a little scared to refresh at this point.

Wipqozn

@JasonBerkan Do it.

Only then can you see the true @GnomeSlice.

Michael Dunfield

How do you change just your chat profile?

GnomeSlice

Jul 24 at 1:32, by GnomeSlice

My avatar is custom.

Wipqozn

19:27

@MichaelDunfield I'd star that, but then he'd see it.

GnomeSlice

See? I said that.

Wipqozn

Maybe I should make @GnomeSlice a room owner.

GnomeSlice

@GnomeSlice would be a great room owner.

Michael Dunfield

I thought he was one before?

Wipqozn

Actually, I should make @OrigamiRobo one! It's a shame he's not around, though.

Michael Dunfield

19:28

I'm not switching to OrigamiRobot

Wipqozn

@MichaelDunfield No. @OrigamiRObert was at one point, but then he removed everyone else.

Michael Dunfield

I don't want to ruin your reputation.

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice I'm tempted to flag that to see if it got validated... but I won't. Because I don't want to waste peoples time with stupid flags. Even if it would be for science.

@MichaelDunfield It would be the perfect revenge.

Although changing it to @OrigamiRobert would be better.

Michael Dunfield

How did you change your chat name anyway?

Coronus

I refreshed the page, and everything became clear.

Michael Dunfield

19:30

Your profile links to bitcoin.se

GnomeSlice

@MichaelDunfield I am smart.

RedRiderX

pokes head in room

Wipqozn

It pained me to click invalid on that, but I couldn't just ignore it.

Michael Dunfield

@Wipqozn I ignored it.

Wipqozn

Damn my sense of ethics and duty!

Jason Berkan

19:31

@MichaelDunfield There is a link on your user profile page: chat.stackexchange.com/users/16521/gnomeslice

Beside "Parent User" there s/b a Change link.

Wipqozn

hahahahahaa, he got suspended.

RedRiderX

Oh my.

Michael Dunfield

@JasonBerkan Oh, I get it.

@Wipqozn He did?

Told you.

Jason Berkan

@Wipqozn Science confirms that people don't like @GnomeSlice.

Michael Dunfield

Sorry @GnomeSlice. For the record I didn't validate it.

Wipqozn

19:32

@JasonBerkan If I called someone a jerk I wouldn't be surprised if it validated, or at least got a blues attention.

I'm not going to test that though.

That Brazilian Guy

Hi

Michael Dunfield

@ThatBrazilianGuy Hello! :)

Yuki

Wait. Did he get suspended for calling himself a jerk?

RedRiderX

@MichaelDunfield That's my line!

Wipqozn

@ThatBrazilianGuy Are you from Brazil?

@Yuki Yes. It was glorious.

Michael Dunfield

19:33

@RedRiderX Go for it

RedRiderX

@MichaelDunfield Howdy!

No wait.

Yuki

@Wipqozn Everyone's staring at me because I'm laughing so loudly.

Michael Dunfield

@RedRiderX Wrong person.

RedRiderX

@ThatBrazilianGuy Howdy!

Michael Dunfield

How long did he get suspended for? I feel bad now.

Wipqozn

19:34

@Yuki That makes it even funnier!

Yuki

@MichaelDunfield ~30 minutes.

Wipqozn

@MichaelDunfield Unless you were the one that flagged it you shouldn't feel bad.

Michael Dunfield

@Wipqozn I. Hmm. Well.

Wipqozn

If you were the one that flagged it, though, then you should feel bad.

Michael Dunfield

@badp can you unsuspend @GnomeSlice?

Ben Brocka

19:34

We've been making more money per-hour on steam than we have been making per week everywhere else. Tell me steam doesn't have a monopoly.

Tweeted by SpooderW on September 5, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Wipqozn

...please don't tell me you were the one that flagged it.

Michael Dunfield

@BenBrocka Ergh.

@Wipqozn I wasn't the one that flagged it.

I didn't invalidate it either though

Science

Wipqozn

I'm not sure if I believe you given your "hmm well" message. It's all very suspicious.

Michael Dunfield

@Wipqozn star bait

Ineffective, I see.

That Brazilian Guy

@Wipqozn No, from a small town in Indiana goo.gl/maps/W84Gl

Yuki

19:36

@MichaelDunfield No, star bait is when you say you don't want stars. Like this:

I really don't like getting starred.

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RedRiderX

@MichaelDunfield Actually, maybe its not mine so much.

chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=howdy&user=&room=35

Wipqozn

Also, I doubt badp will undo the suspension. Badp would probably have suspended him for impersonating another user anyways. He's done it before. I think.

Michael Dunfield

@RedRiderX You lose!

@Wipqozn Nobody is impersonating anybody what are you talking about

Wipqozn

@MichaelDunfield Pure nonsense.

Just ignore the nonsensical Tortoise.

Michael Dunfield

@BenBrocka This makes me hate steam a lot

Coronus

19:38

@MichaelDunfield I'm ~~Spartacus~~ GnomeSlice.

Yuki

@Coronus No, I'm @GnomeSlice. And so's my wife.

Wipqozn

@Yuki I wish my wife was @GnomeSlice.

RedRiderX

@MichaelDunfield Hmm I did start using it on my first day in The Bridge.

Wipqozn

@MichaelDunfield Liar.

Michael Dunfield

@RedRiderX You win I guess?

Coronus

19:39

:11096840 You're @MichaelDunfield. Don't lie.

Yuki

Is it just me or is TV Tropes completely messed up right now?

I haven't been able to load a page all day.

RedRiderX

@MichaelDunfield No, we're all winners in a way.

Coronus

@Yuki Yeah, I saw that earlier.

RedRiderX

I think.

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice should be given a 6-month ban for calling @ORigamiRobert a jerk!

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RedRiderX

19:41

Maybe not, actually.

Powerlord

I really don't like getting sta....red at! Stop it!

@Wipqozn One year in the toon factory!

Michael Dunfield

@Powerlord BEST REFERENCE

Wipqozn

ONE YEAR DUNGEEOOOON, NO TRIAL

Michael Dunfield

@Powerlord Just gained 10 respect points.

Wipqozn

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Powerlord

19:43

@MichaelDunfield I've linked the game's opening in here before. :P

Michael Dunfield

@Powerlord Still, I've been thinking about that game recently.

It is excellent.

Powerlord

I still have it on CD somewhere.

Yuki

TIL Dance Dance Revolution doesn't actually help you learn how to dance. Unless your style of dance involves a bar/pole behind you to lean on.

Powerlord

Hmm... I wonder if that was in the Incredible Machine collection GOG had.

Wipqozn

@Yuki Well...yes.

Yuki

19:46

@Wipqozn I don't really pay attention to DDR, but the student center has one and I've had to sit next to it this entire week because of lack of seating.

Michael Dunfield

List of sandwiches

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This is apparently a wikipedia thing

Mana

someone validated that flag?

Yuki

Marmite sandwich only has a picture of a jar of Marmite as opposed to a slice of bread with Marmite on it. Lazy Wikipedians.

Mana

what?!

Michael Dunfield

@Mana Science.

Yuki

19:52

And the martino sandwich has a hyperlink as opposed to an image.

Michael Dunfield

@Yuki Maybe it's NSFW

Yuki

@MichaelDunfield Clearly, sandwiches are NC-17 material in Belgium.

ToxicFrog

@BenBrocka did someone seriously tweet that

Coronus

Bacon is the top of the sandwich list. As it should be.

Michael Dunfield

@ToxicFrog Yeah, Paranautical Activity devs

uxpin.com/web-design-book-of-trends-2013-2014.html

Ben Brocka

20:06

@ToxicFrog tweet what?

Coronus

I miss @GnomeSlice.

Michael Dunfield

@BenBrocka Presumably the Paranautical thing about making more money per hour on steam than money per week anywhere else.

ToxicFrog

@BenBrocka about Steam having a monopoly because they're making more money there than anything else

Lazers

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Q: Is there a way to make sure I can only open a world with a specific profile?

Today the first 1.7 snapshot came out and with it a bunch of new biome and terrain features. I want to check it out, but I'm afraid if I open one of my existing worlds while using the snapshot I'll create ugly chunk borders. To try to prevent that, I created a new profile in the launcher so I ca...

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Ben Brocka

@ToxicFrog A few dozen times more than anywhere else

It does rather indicate they have a monopoly on people

GnomeSlice

20:11

One more thing to add to my "List of stupid suspensions"

That one ranks just below when I got suspended for linking a spam answer in chat.

Michael Dunfield

@GnomeSlice Did that happen?

@GnomeSlice Don't forget when you got suspended for 'shut up'

ToxicFrog

@BenBrocka I can, right now, buy Paranautical Activity from four different stores. Steam is one of them. If I were to buy it, I would probably buy it from Steam - not because they have a monopoly, but because it is overwhelmingly more convenient for me to do so. The Humble Store is the other main contender.

Yuki

@GnomeSlice Still laughing at the fact you got suspended for essentially calling yourself a jerk.

Michael Dunfield

@ToxicFrog Desura

Ben Brocka

@ToxicFrog But it does mean that if you're not on steam you're nearly fucked because you're going to get an order of magnitude less sales

RedRiderX

20:13

@MichaelDunfield Eeeh, meh.

ToxicFrog

With DD in particular it's not like Steam can "drive out" all the other stores in an area, if you have net access and there isn't stupid region locking going on you can buy from any of them.

Powerlord

@GnomeSlice Why is replying to OrigimiRobot putting @GnomeSlice in my chat window...

GnomeSlice

@Yuki But it's true. I am a jerk.

ToxicFrog

So if you're getting overwhelmingly more money from a particular storefront, that's an indication that the customers prefer to buy through them.

GnomeSlice

58 mins ago, by OrigamiRobot

Me. I am @GnomeSlice

Ben Brocka

20:13

It's not so much that there's no other option, it's that less than 5% of people will look at the other options

Michael Dunfield

@RedRiderX ಠ_ಠ

ToxicFrog

Maybe because they're more convenient, maybe because they have better advertising or brand recognition, maybe because they have better prices

But not because they're the only practical option.

Powerlord

Pretty sure impersonating other users is a good way to get yourself suspended.

RedRiderX

@MichaelDunfield Sorry, but GOG ranks higher then Desura for me.

Michael Dunfield

@ToxicFrog Yeah, it's not because they're the only option for sure.

Yuki

20:14

@GnomeSlice Just watch you get suspended for that too.

Michael Dunfield

@RedRiderX Does GOG have a client? I've never really used it.

GnomeSlice

@Powerlord Welcome to 30 minutes ago.

RedRiderX

Easier to navigate, less gimmicky feeling stuff.

Michael Dunfield

I think the convenience factor is big for a lot of people.

ToxicFrog

@BenBrocka not necessarily - it doesn't take into account the fact that if it weren't on steam, some number of users who are currently getting it on steam would get it somewhere else.

fbueckert

20:14

I see @Gnome's gravatar and I'm, "Wha? I blocked him. What happened?"

RedRiderX

@MichaelDunfield They have a downloader if you choose to use it.

Michael Dunfield

@fbueckert Hahahahaha I knew it.

@RedRiderX Interesting...

ToxicFrog

And yeah, GOG and Humble Store both rank well above Desura for me

Ben Brocka

@ToxicFrog Those would be the people that were purchasing it before, which as he said were vastly, insanely less

GnomeSlice

@fbueckert My love for you has overcome the ignore.

Michael Dunfield

20:15

Although I still really like Desura for some reason despite the bugs and stuff.

@ToxicFrog Really? Why, out of curiosity?

fbueckert

@GnomeSlice Or you're just the robot in disguise.

I'M ONTO YOU!

ToxicFrog

@MichaelDunfield GOG has a downloader, all it does is one-click downloading of all installers+patches+extras for a game to a folder you specify

Ben Brocka

I prefer humble store, would be better if there were an easy way to download all/most games in one swoop

ToxicFrog

@MichaelDunfield so, nothing you couldn't already do with the browser, just fewer clicks

Michael Dunfield

@BenBrocka The humble library of games you own is laid out pretty terribly.

RedRiderX

20:16

@fbueckert He may indeed be a robot in disguise.

ToxicFrog

@MichaelDunfield as for why I prefer them - Desura client is slow and ugly and kind of crashy. Would rather have DRM-free installer, or Steam key.

Jason Berkan

@RedRiderX He is not a Transformer.

Michael Dunfield

I like the way Desur notifies you of game updates, but doesn't automatically start downloading them like Steam.

@ToxicFrog Every game you own on Desura also comes with a DRM free installer if you like.

ToxicFrog

@MichaelDunfield they sure don't go out of their way to make them accessible, themn

Michael Dunfield

Yeah the client is kind of slow and buggy, but just use the website. It's the same thing but much better.

@ToxicFrog Name a game you own on Desura, if you can think of one.

ToxicFrog

20:17

Unepic

Coronus

@MichaelDunfield I can't read their website.

Michael Dunfield

@ToxicFrog desura.com/games/unepic

RedRiderX

@JasonBerkan Aww, but at least you picked up on it. :)

ToxicFrog

Although I haven't launched Desura since they released Steam keys for it

Michael Dunfield

There is a column on the right for your purchased downloads.

Jason Berkan

20:18

@RedRiderX My comics still sit on my nightstand.

Michael Dunfield

You can just download the drm free thing right from there

fbueckert

@GnomeSlice Once you change your name back, you can chat in the MH3U room again.

Too much confusion in my brain!

ToxicFrog

(the main draw of Desura for me was automatic mod installing for games I own, but it doesn't support any of the games/mods I want, so...)

Yuki

I need to play Skullgirls again sometime soon.

fbueckert

...Damn. I can't just give access to a specific name in a chat profile.

Michael Dunfield

20:19

@fbueckert I'm not going to join your stupid chat room so you don't need to block me.

ToxicFrog

@MichaelDunfield ok, so, GOG and Humble Store both give me that same capability except with much prettier and easier to navigate websites, and in GOG's case, an optional "download all the things" app.

fbueckert

Huh. It came up as OrigamiRobot, even though the gravatar and name on the access screen wasn't.

ToxicFrog

So, there is still basically no reason for me to get something on Desura when it's available on one of those.

fbueckert

Also, much better. Thank you.

RedRiderX

@ToxicFrog And the extras can be a nice touch.

Michael Dunfield

20:21

@ToxicFrog That does sound pretty nice, although I like the community features of Desura.

OrigamiRobot

We all know @GnomeSlice flagged that message.

Michael Dunfield

For some reason there's something about GOG I never liked.

@ToxicFrog @RedRiderX Also, indiegamestand is launching their game store this month!

I suspect it's going to be pretty great.

ToxicFrog

Yeah, I've never used Desura's community features and basically everyone I'd talk to using them is on IRC with a few holdouts on Steam

So

OrigamiRobot

Still pretty stupid to know @GnomeSlice could get suspended for such a mundane comment.

Michael Dunfield

Also @ToxicFrog @RedRiderX I'm assuming you guys aren't looking for more places to buy things, but ShinyLoot just came out of beta too, and so far it seems pretty nice.

@ToxicFrog Yeah, that's a big thing for me. I like the community interaction in Desura.

I like how comments are displayed right on the game page, where steam doesn't even really allow comments

unless you bury them in a forum thread or something

RedRiderX

20:23

@MichaelDunfield So what are they going to sell all the old games at the normal price?

Michael Dunfield

@RedRiderX No, they have developers who haven't even been featured on board. It's going to be like a game marketplace.

And the wallet is pretty nice already. Probably going to end up buying some stuff from them.

RedRiderX

@MichaelDunfield There are certainly seem to always be new game marketplaces popping up, but I can't help but feel like it'll be hard to avoid ending up like Indievania.

Michael Dunfield

@RedRiderX IndieVania is a piece of shit, unfortunately.

I was excited about it when it came around but it is the worst.

Updates and all that stuff is terrible

@RedRiderX I bought something on shinyloot already. Seems pretty nice. You get drm free copies, and steam or desura keys for some stuff. Plus store credit for writing reviews.

RedRiderX

Hmm, can you actually directly sell games through Kongregate or GameJolt?

Michael Dunfield

@RedRiderX Nope.

Kongregate is for browser games only.

Gamejolt is for free stuff (some people use it for demos)

RedRiderX

20:31

Oh so GameJolt is kinda like ModDB.

Michael Dunfield

Also GameJolt is really cool.

@RedRiderX Yes, actually. Or indieDB

I never really understood the need for modDb and indieDB at the same time

RedRiderX

@MichaelDunfield Yeah, I always mix the two.

ToxicFrog

@MichaelDunfield Yeah, that's fair. For me, I find that most online gaming communities have a uselessly low SNR to begin with, and Steam's is no exception - so the fact that I don't see comments unless I go looking for them is a feature.

Michael Dunfield

Metagolf for 75 cents

Ben Brocka

@RedRiderX No Kong only does Kreds to tip developers or buy in-game stuff

Michael Dunfield

20:37

@ToxicFrog SNR?

ToxicFrog

(that said, Steam will display highly rated user reviews on the game's store page, IIRC)

fbueckert

Huh. I just got an email from Fedex. Apparently, something got shipped today.

ToxicFrog

Signal:Noise Ratio

fbueckert

From where, what it is, or where it's going, I have no idea.

Michael Dunfield

@ToxicFrog I don't think I've ever seen that.

ToxicFrog

20:40

@MichaelDunfield maybe it's only reviews from friends? I'm pretty sure I've seen user reviews on game pages.

Michael Dunfield

@ToxicFrog Yeah you can see recommendations from friends.

Ben Brocka

I think it shows your frens

ToxicFrog

Aah

Michael Dunfield

I didn't think that's what you meant.

I need to write some more of those too

I only have like 13

fbueckert

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Q: Can I check what version is Steam gift?

I've purchased CD-Key for Call of Duty: Ghosts as a Steam gift (Here's link - http://cdkeyshere.com/call-of-duty-ghosts-cd-key.html?keyword=call%20of#.UijpucZpmTo) and my question is can I somehow confirm that it's region free version instead of RU? If it's RU I shouldn't be able to redeem it as ...

steam

Thoughts, people?

Michael Dunfield

20:43

I guess you can't see that.

Jason Berkan

Seems spammish, depending on what that link is.

fbueckert

@JasonBerkan I didn't check it, but I bet it's to one of those sketchy sites that sells Steam games cheaper than Steam.

OrigamiRobot

@JasonBerkan I definitely don't wanna click it

fbueckert

ie. from Russia or something.

Michael Dunfield

I clicked it.

It looks like an online retailer for buying games.

Jason Berkan

20:44

I know - I'm at work, so I'm not clicking it.

fbueckert

I suppose if we edit out the link, and the general nefarious-ness of whatever it he's doing, it could be a useful question.

Michael Dunfield

That's what's behind the link

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert Yea, there are plenty of legitimate places you can buy steam games from that aren't steam

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot That gives it to you by "gifting" it to you?

That's the part that I think is somewhat sketchy.

If they buy it from a legit store, you get a CD-Key.

Michael Dunfield

Can't you add those as gifts?

Jason Berkan

20:49

They buy the keys as gifts during Steam sales, then sell them for less than the full Steam price after the sale.

fbueckert

@JasonBerkan And you get the key itself, I believe.

At least, that's how it's always happened for me.

Jason Berkan

I never received a key during the gaming grants. Just a gift of a game from SE.

Michael Dunfield

I buy Steam games from Not-Steam more than I buy them from Steam. Unfortunately I'm not very observant and I forget what it does.

Anyway, hometime

Jason Berkan

Though that was a long time ago. And I'm old.

fbueckert

@JasonBerkan I can't say that I've ever won a game from SE. I think that's somewhat of a special situation, too.

Ullallulloo

20:52

dota2wh.com has bots that can trade games to you for Dota 2 ~~hats~~ items.

fbueckert

Regardless, I think the edit makes it acceptable enough to let it go.

Ullallulloo

It's sketchy but not unheard of.

And yeah, it's fine without a link.

Lazers

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Q: Which facilities unlock when and how does difficulty affect this?

I recently completed the game on Normal difficulty and now just began a new game at Classic difficulty on Ironman. I'm slowly working on getting up my satellites and have only just now unlocked the Officer Training School (which came for free the first time around). I have been surprised to find ...

xcom-enemy-unknown

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Q: Can I check what version is Steam gift?

I've purchased CD-Key for Call of Duty: Ghosts as a Steam gift from a 3rd party site. Can I somehow confirm that it's region free version instead of RU? If it's RU I shouldn't be able to redeem it as a gift, right? Because it's region locked.

steam

Michael Dunfield

I don't think the title is right though

Is he asking how to tell what region it's locked to?

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more roguelikes for everyone

RedRiderX

@MichaelDunfield It's neat, but still very much alpha.

Michael Dunfield

20:56

hometime

RedRiderX

I think I might be looking into it when it comes out in a release proper.

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