2016 Worldbuilding Moderator Election

bilbo_pingouin

06:45

1. HDE 226868: 154 (162 up, -8 down)
2. Tim B: 145 (152 up, -7 down)
3. Monica Cellio: 141 (149 up, -8 down)
4. bowlturner: 94 (104 up, -10 down)
5. Serban Tanasa: 86 (90 up, -4 down)
6. Michael Kjörling: 73 (81 up, -8 down)
7. ArtOfCode: 67 (78 up, -11 down)
8. James: 53 (60 up, -7 down)
9. Monty Wild: 47 (54 up, -7 down)
10. Samuel: 36 (50 up, -14 down)
11. bilbo_pingouin: 33 (37 up, -4 down)
12. DaaaahWhoosh: 30 (35 up, -5 down)
13. JDługosz: 11 (18 up, -7 down)
14. Aify: 6 (16 up, -10 down)

Tim B

07:11

I think the theory is right, people are downvoting Samual because he's at 10 and they want either bilbo or daaaah in

although having said that artofcode and bowlturner both have nearly as many down

bilbo_pingouin

That point may be right, but the theory that it is made by people behind might be less so

Tim B

for sure

bilbo_pingouin

and on the other hand, Samuel already had many DV when he was 9th and Monty was way behind

Tim B

it's most likely supporters rather than candidates

bilbo_pingouin

When the primary election is done, I intend (if no one does it before me) to make a plot to see the evolution of the scores, up and down votes...

Tim B

07:17

cool

bilbo_pingouin

But I don't understand why some people collect that many downvotes. And Samuel is clearly one of them.

Aify and Jim2B collected a few of those as well... if I could understand a somewhat strategic factor to downvote Samuel (for him to leave the top10), why are Aify, Jim2B, AoC and bowlturner collecting 10+ downvotes?

Tim B

some people don't like them for some reason....hard to guess

bilbo_pingouin

well, I'm not sure people voting are actually counting to see who stands in place 10 and who is in 11 (or 12). I certainly wouldn't.

overactor

07:35

Quite a close race for the 10th place at the moment

bilbo_pingouin

In a way, yes... except that since some 10 hours or so, only DaaaahWoosh got an upvote from the 10th-12th candidates. Which, of course, makes it more tight.

overactor

We might see a rush in the last day

bilbo_pingouin

maybe... it was the case for the nominations... by the second day, essentially all candidates were there... except for 3 who came on the last day, IIRC.

Pavel Janicek

09:09

Regarding the upvotes and downvotes: In my case, casting a downvote meant "I do not want you to be a mod", nothing else. And upvote meant for me "You would make a good mod."

bilbo_pingouin

you know that you don't have to vote for every candidates, right?

Pavel Janicek

TBH, I did not know it :) But I considered it as a primary: You in, you out. Real decission will begin for me when I have only 3 votes (I guess)

And, when I can cast say 27 votes, I usually enjoy my right to do so

:)

bilbo_pingouin

because one pattern could be: upvote "I think you could be a good moderator", no vote "I don't think you'd be a good moderator" and downvote "I think you'd be a horrible mod"

@PavelJanicek fair enough ;-)

@PavelJanicek you know that the STV system is more than having 3 votes, right? I learned that in the last days, but you only have one vote

but that vote could be partly or fully transfered to your second choice if your first choice makes it to the election threshold, or gets eliminated. And the same for the third.

Pavel Janicek

Ouch. I should educate myself about the elections :)

Can you post me a link to elections?

I am having my "stupid eyes" time and cannot find anything :)

bilbo_pingouin

give me a minute

overactor

09:15

worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/election/1

bilbo_pingouin

ah, I thought you wanted to see other elections: elections.stackexchange.com

but if you wanted the page for ours, @overactor gave you the link... it is on the right side on our main page

Pavel Janicek

I mean, the rules

like how many votes can I cast and what does it mean

bilbo_pingouin

yesterday, by AndreiROM

STV ?

see also that discussion in chat starting from ^^^

Pavel Janicek

ahh. I see

Will se how lazy I am going to be with regards understanding the system

Tim B

@bilbo_pingouin Yeah, that was my pattern...although I didn't actually bother with any downvotes since no-one I would downvote was anywhere near the top 10

bilbo_pingouin

09:21

193

Q: How are moderator election votes counted, in plain English?

The election pages' sidebars state that Stack Exchange elections use the Meek STV vote-counting method: After m days, the final voting results will be freely downloadable from this page forever, and we will calculate the n winners using OpenSTV with the Meek STV method. How does that work? ...

Pavel Janicek

Or how excited I am going to be to be able to cast three votes

Plain English. Thats something I could read even in my lazy time :)

Tim B

The whole idea with STV is that you don't need to worry about it. Just pick the three people you most want to be moderator in order

Pavel Janicek

Wow, so that is the system I am going to use

Because so far while I have some preferences, people in top 10 make good pack to be Mod

like anyone from them

Tim B

yep, I'd be happy with anyone from the top 12 in fact

bilbo_pingouin

@PavelJanicek I think most of the candidates (being on place 11, I don't want to limit to the top 10 ;-)) would be reaonable moderators :)

@TimB same here, actually...

Mourdos

09:44

I do find it interesting how different stacks have different ways that mods do things.

A certain SE that a number of us use seems to be heating up.

bilbo_pingouin

@Mourdos Some of that has been discussed in this very venue before. We concluded that we, in WB.SE, are awsome... er, a happy familly. :-)

overactor

10:06

@Mourdos can you specify, I seem to be out of the loop

bilbo_pingouin

Some recent election has seen quite some drama. I don't know if Mourdos was referring to that one in particular though. But we discussed a few days ago, and concluded that here wasn't the best place to discuss what happened there.

Pavel Janicek

TBH I am quite happy that this election is really drama-free

bilbo_pingouin

aren't we all?

Pavel Janicek

On other hand, as retired internet troll, I sometimes feel that some drama and flamewar would be enjoyable :)

bilbo_pingouin

there have been some mudsliding on the way ;-)

Feb 3 at 19:17, by James

Anyone want to have a mud-slinging debate in chat? I can guarantee I will claim at least one of you has punched a baby, and that several others like to kick puppies.

mud-slinging and not sliding... sorry

Tim B

10:29

I think it's funny that most of the top people have upvoted each other (or at least several have said they have and I see no reason to disbelieve them)

I've upvoted HDE and Monica and HDE said he'd upvoted me

Pavel Janicek

I must say that it is one of the thing I totally love on this site: That common mindset of top users is "how to make site great" (or even greater than it is)

Tim B

If it happened then obviously I'd be a bit sad not to be elected but I'd still be happy we had a good mod team, if that makes any sense

bilbo_pingouin

well regardless of the outcome, the mod team will be changed as Vincent did not re-apply, if that's what you meant

Tim B

@PavelJanicek Meh, I've no time or patience for drama. Far more important things to be getting on with :)

Pavel Janicek

@TimB Reason I retired from being internet troll. While some drama can be enjoyable, I do not really have a time to keep up the drama :+

:-)

bilbo_pingouin

10:43

( I just mention it, as you might not know... in chat you can edit your recently posted message. This can be done by pressing the up arrow on the writing box, or on the left side of a message with your mouse. )

Pavel Janicek

Lets try (It worked). Ohh, this is nice. Thank you

Tim B

1. HDE 226868: 154 (162 up, -8 down)
2. Tim B: 145 (152 up, -7 down)
3. Monica Cellio: 141 (149 up, -8 down)
4. bowlturner: 94 (104 up, -10 down)
5. Serban Tanasa: 86 (90 up, -4 down)
6. Michael Kjörling: 73 (81 up, -8 down)
7. ArtOfCode: 67 (78 up, -11 down)
8. James: 53 (60 up, -7 down)
9. Monty Wild: 47 (54 up, -7 down)
10. Samuel: 36 (50 up, -14 down)
11. bilbo_pingouin: 35 (38 up, -3 down)
12. DaaaahWhoosh: 30 (35 up, -5 down)
13. JDługosz: 11 (18 up, -7 down)
14. Aify: 6 (16 up, -10 down)

I'm catching up again....only 9 behind HDE now... I was 5 behind yesterday though so I think it's a lost cause

wow, Samuel and bilbo is only 1 vote in it

Pavel Janicek

Another stupid question: Does winning primary mean something more than having a good feeling that you ended on first place?

Tim B

no, only matters if top 10 or not

bilbo_pingouin

nope

Tim B

10:46

primary results are visible though so it may influence election voting

but hard to quantify that

bilbo_pingouin

@TimB apparently I had a downvoter changing their mind... and upvoting me instead.

Pavel Janicek

That downvoter was me

bilbo_pingouin

oh? Well thank you :)

overactor

@PavelJanicek what changed your mind, if I might ask?

Tim B

that 10th spot is actually a pretty close fight between Samuel, bilbo and daaaah

Pavel Janicek

10:48

@overactor Is "personal feeling about the candidate" stupidd answer?

bilbo_pingouin

@PavelJanicek lucky me, then :-)

Pavel Janicek

TBH, primary mean very little to me personally

Real voting will begin tomorrow for me

Tim B

I think Monty is safe now so really it's just those 3 fighting it out, I don't think any other places are going to change unless Monica passes me

bilbo_pingouin

@PavelJanicek and you are right. I sincerely doubt that whoever takes the 10th spot gets elected. I know the system might work still that way, but I doubt it.

Tim B

well, 11th has 0 chance, 10th has some chance

bilbo_pingouin

10:53

@TimB Well if some people are waiting for the last moment to vote, there might still be some significant changes, like you overpassing HDE. So it's hard to be certain.

Pavel Janicek

In my own case I am only strongly radiating towards HDE

bilbo_pingouin

@PavelJanicek and he would/will make a great mod for WB :)

Pavel Janicek

I have the same feeling

bilbo_pingouin

For me 3 spots to give are pretty hard. As there are more than that I would like to have as moderators...

Pavel Janicek

Same here, I have about 4-5 candidates to vote on, all in top10

bilbo_pingouin

10:57

that's an interesting question... can a candidate vote for themselves in the main election?

Pavel Janicek

I would say yes, but it is indeed interesting question

bilbo_pingouin

for the primary part, it isn't possible

Pavel Janicek

Which makes sense, because you use standard Upvote and Downvote functions and it is not possible to upvote your own post

(Even when you know it is great post and it totally deserves an upvote)

bilbo_pingouin

well in a way, people always consider that you would alwlays avoid your own post... otherwise you wouldn't have written it.

Pavel Janicek

Not in my case. Mine posts are so awesome that they deserve upvote even from me. And it is hard to get upvote from me :)

bilbo_pingouin

11:06

True, but not everyone has your standards ;-)

overactor

@bilbo_pingouin avoid = upvote?

bilbo_pingouin

indeed, sorry, can't edit it anymore

overactor

no problem

autocorrect?

bilbo_pingouin

if it were, "always" would not be written as it is... no thinking about different sentence at the same time...

overactor

I once abscentmidedly typed the word cheese into a completely unrelated sentence

and actually hit send before I noticed

that was weird

ArtOfCode

11:21

$>alive

user153821

@ArtOfCode Yes, I'm alive.

bilbo_pingouin

@ArtOfCode why can't we have the bot on our main chat?

ArtOfCode

@bilbo_pingouin we can, if you like.

bilbo_pingouin

well I think it's a more appropriate place to play with than here :)

ArtOfCode

I stuck it on here so I could give out genius medals :)

Lemme get it set up for main

Tim B

11:23

yes in the final election candidates can vote and can vote for themselves but do not have to

I think I know who I'm voting for but it's a really tough choice

bilbo_pingouin

@TimB I think I have my first and second... but I'm doubting for my third... well unless I make it :)

Tim B

yeah, I'm similar. I'd really like to have 4 choices not 3

bilbo_pingouin

or 5

Pavel Janicek

4 choices would work for me

And it would be more fair because there are 4 posts open :)

bilbo_pingouin

yes, in that sense 4 votes would be choosing your complete team...

ArtOfCode

11:33

I'm sure I've had this debate somewhere else very recently...

Tim B

yep, me too

overactor

12:58

1. HDE 226868: 154 (162 up, -8 down)
2. Tim B: 145 (152 up, -7 down)
3. Monica Cellio: 141 (149 up, -8 down)
4. bowlturner: 94 (104 up, -10 down)
5. Serban Tanasa: 86 (90 up, -4 down)
6. Michael Kjörling: 73 (81 up, -8 down)
7. ArtOfCode: 67 (78 up, -11 down)
8. James: 53 (60 up, -7 down)
9. Monty Wild: 47 (54 up, -7 down)
10. bilbo_pingouin: 35 (38 up, -3 down)
11. Samuel: 33 (49 up, -16 down)
12. DaaaahWhoosh: 30 (35 up, -5 down)
13. JDługosz: 11 (18 up, -7 down)
14. Aify: 6 (16 up, -10 down)

@bilbo_pingouin overtook @Samuel

Tim B

ooo

16 down, Samuel's still getting downvotes. I wonder why

overactor

It is remarkable

Tim B

maybe people didn't like the archduke of moderation joke

overactor

seems like someone switched his vote on him

Tim B

Could be. No way to know who if someone did

actually this lets us test the hypothesis

if bilbo starts racking up downvotes now

depending on whether it was bilbo supporters downvoting

overactor

13:03

that's true

but it's easy to see why some people might feel stronger about Samuel not making it than they do about bilbo

bilbo is less polarising

I'd bet

Tim B

yep, votes make that clear

bilbo_pingouin

I still don't understand the hevay DV that some users have. Though, there, I think that someone wanted to have Samuel out of the top 10 :-/

Tim B

well it wasn't one person it was 16 :p

overactor

I don't suppose anyone has multiple sockpuppets with 150+ rep

bilbo_pingouin

well he did have a few DV before he got to the 10th position

Tim B

13:19

well I could probably make some pretty fast if I really wanted to, but no I doubt it

bilbo_pingouin

@TimB what I meant is that if someone did change an upvote into a downvote, that was probably due to the rank

Tim B

could be. Take it as a compliment

you both have an upvote from me. If you're feeling bad about it I can downvote you instead :p

bilbo_pingouin

I'm feeling bad for Samuel that people are DVing him. I'm perfectly happy with people not DVing me :D

Tim B

ahh, that pesky sympathy thing.

bilbo_pingouin

it's called empathy... ;-)

Tim B

13:29

I've heard of that.

Samuel was behind you in day one, climbed ahead on day 2, now you ahead on day 3....what will day 4 bring? :)

bilbo_pingouin

I'm pretty sure Samuel was never behind me... oO well not until this very instant

Tim B

you were 10th for a while weren't you?

bilbo_pingouin

it was Monty, who overpassed DaaaahWoosh, myself and Samuel

Tim B

ahh no, it was monty

yeah my bad

I wonder if historical vote data is in sede...would be really interesting to see a time series line graph with a line for each candidate showing how many votes

like every hour or sometihng

bilbo_pingouin

it would... but thanks to Hoh' and others, we have regular pointing of the scores...

Tim B

13:35

well, not really regular...you'd need to adjust for time. Excel would cope with that though

or maybe not, the new graphing in excel is rubbish

bilbo_pingouin

sure, we need to set the x-axis for time... but I think it will still be useful. Nevertheless, yes it would be nice to see how the voting went on SEDE

0

Q: Primary Election Statistics: Query

There is a moderator election on Worldbuilding right now, and we are in the primary part of the election. We were wondering whether it was possible to see the evolution of the votes as a function of time using a query like SEDE. Or are these data not available to users?

feature-request election

Tim B

Nice :)

overactor

14:10

SEDE is only updated once weekly, right?

bilbo_pingouin

not too often, indeed... but we could wait until Sunday to see the stats...

AndreiROM

hello, folks

bilbo_pingouin

@AndreiROM hello yourself :)

overactor

Should my js function maybe be posted there in case people every stumble upon that post during an election elsewhere?

@AndreiROM hiya

AndreiROM

@overactor - couldn't hurt

overactor

14:32

gist.github.com/poke/9058895

nvm :)

11

Q: StackExchange Election: Primary counter

I want to keep an eye on the votes of the ongoing election, but the unsortedness of the list during the primary election phase makes it hard to keep track of anything. So I wrote a quick script that goes through them all and puts a short overview list at the top, sorted by the current vote count....

script elections

Tim B

yours is better :)

overactor

It does get the actual scores...

Tim B

1. HDE 226868: 154 (162 up, -8 down)
2. Tim B: 145 (152 up, -7 down)
3. Monica Cellio: 141 (149 up, -8 down)
4. bowlturner: 94 (104 up, -10 down)
5. Serban Tanasa: 86 (90 up, -4 down)
6. Michael Kjörling: 73 (81 up, -8 down)
7. ArtOfCode: 67 (78 up, -11 down)
8. James: 53 (60 up, -7 down)
9. Monty Wild: 47 (54 up, -7 down)
10. bilbo_pingouin: 35 (38 up, -3 down)
11. Samuel: 33 (49 up, -16 down)
12. DaaaahWhoosh: 30 (35 up, -5 down)
13. JDługosz: 11 (18 up, -7 down)
14. Aify: 6 (16 up, -10 down)

speaking of, no change at 10. bilbo still in by the skin of his teeth

bilbo_pingouin

127

Q: 2015 Election Live Vote Monitor

Updated for the November 2015 election! I wrote a live election activity monitor which you can use to see the current status and watch the votes live; it shows the cutoff line for the final phase as well. Image below is sample only, counts and ranks are outdated and do not reflect the current ...

discussion election

also gets the current scores...

AndreiROM

so, at the risk of sounding like a complete noob, how does one run the code to generate those results?

Tim B

14:36

what web browser?

you need to open the javascript console and execute it on there while on the election page

AndreiROM

chrome

Tim B

press F12

bilbo_pingouin

@AndreiROM on the starred message on the right, there is a function made by @overactor

Tim B

then select console in the pane that appears

AndreiROM

gotcha

thanks :)

overactor

14:38

It takes about 40 seconds because of ratelimiting though

Tim B

yeah it needs to ask stack exchange hte score for each candidate and stack exchange will only let you ask 1 question every 2 seconds

AndreiROM

40 seconds I can live with

just gave me the results

very nice, I'm impressed

i did a lot of back end development when I started in the field, and only started doing front end work over the past 8 months. I'm still not up to date with everything you can do with the dev tools in each browser, but I think i'm catching on pretty quickly

I think i'm gonna spend the next 20 minutes dissecting that function :-P

Tim B

yeah, modern browsers have built in javascript debuggers and consoles to run arbitrary scripts

it's a lot of jquery...doesn't make it very readable unless you know how jquery works

AndreiROM

thankfully, i do

i'm pretty comfortable with javascript and jquery

Tim B

nice uses of reduce and suchlike as well

AndreiROM

14:43

not an expert, but i can figure it out

that's why i enjoy reading new functions and other (more advanced) user's code .. learn a few new tricks

Tim B

I'm competent in javascript but my main expertise is Java. I could have written that but it would have been less neat

yeah, it's a good way to learn

AndreiROM

i've used microsoft technologies for the most part

Tim B

even better is to try and modify it

AndreiROM

i think Java is evil

Tim B

:o

deletes AndreiROM

AndreiROM

14:45

i had a crazy prof teach us java back in college, ruined the language for me

Tim B

goes looking for the destroy button

AndreiROM

recently took a course on Java Server Faces, finally made my peace with it :P

Tim B

Mods actually do have a destroy user button. It's very satisfying in a "DIE SPAMMER!" sort of way.

AndreiROM

hahaha

i actually lol'ed

overactor

@TimB jQuery does tend to do that, but it's not too difficult to learn if you need it

Tim B

14:51

Yeah I know JQuery, the reduce stuff you did to generate the tables I'd not seen before in Javascript though. I could follow what it was doing but couldn't have written it like that (not knowing that functionality existed)

overactor

I would have added fat arrow functions had tehy been widely supported, but they're not (yet)

that would have made it a lot cleaner I think

@TimB how do you like Java 8?

Tim B

I <3 it

overactor

Something I only noticed a few weeks ago, though I'm not sure if it has been around for a long time

Tim B

not used the stream API as much as I'd like yet but it's really nice and really powerful from what I've seen

the lambda stuff alone is soooo good though

overactor

given a function signature

Tim B

15:00

just under a year since Java 8 released I think

overactor

T someFunc<T>()

you can do

SomeType someVar = someFunc();

I've used Java 8 features mainly for school projects, where we use java to learn OOP and general programming

at work I only use java for android programming which is still stuck on 7 :(

Tim B

yeah, that works. You also have the diamond operator which is handy for saving typing...that's java 7 as well

bilbo_pingouin

wait there were no templates in java up until 1 year ago?

Tim B

there are no templates in Java...There's generics that does the same job and has been around for ages

some new syntactical sugar was added recently

overactor

It's so, not very java-like

I don't have to write the same type 3 times!

bilbo_pingouin

15:05

because what you described with your T someFunc... are templates (in C++ terms). And they've been around for a good while. So I was puzzled.

Mourdos

@overactor RPG.SE

overactor

@Mourdos I lokked it up by now, wasn't it sci-fi?

Hmm, I did put the generic parameter at the wrong spot, that wasn't valid java

Tim B

@bilbo_pingouin Yep, I'm familiar with C++ templates. Generics is the Java equivalent (although it works differently since templates actually create a new version of the class for the type while java uses the same class). They solve the same problem though.

overactor

generics only working with reference types is a major pain though

Mourdos

I'm referring to the meta situation, not elections

overactor

15:11

Is meta on rpg that bad at the moment?

That in combination with nominal typing annoys me

Mourdos

I've leave it for you to judge

AndreiROM

what's wrong with RPG meta?

overactor

in what world is ToDoubleBiFunction<Type1, Type2> in any way preferable over (Type1, Type2) -> Double

@Mourdos I'll have a look

Serban Tanasa

15:42

Hi all!

For a second there I thought I'd landed in the SO chat

AndreiROM

15:55

salut, serban

Tim B

o/

1. HDE 226868: 154 (162 up, -8 down)
2. Tim B: 146 (153 up, -7 down)
3. Monica Cellio: 142 (150 up, -8 down)
4. bowlturner: 94 (104 up, -10 down)
5. Serban Tanasa: 86 (90 up, -4 down)
6. Michael Kjörling: 74 (82 up, -8 down)
7. ArtOfCode: 68 (79 up, -11 down)
8. James: 53 (60 up, -7 down)
9. Monty Wild: 47 (54 up, -7 down)
10. bilbo_pingouin: 35 (38 up, -3 down)
11. Samuel: 33 (49 up, -16 down)
12. DaaaahWhoosh: 30 (35 up, -5 down)
13. JDługosz: 11 (18 up, -7 down)
14. Aify: 6 (16 up, -10 down)

bilbo still holding to that 2 vote lead

@SerbanTanasa you look comfortable in that 5th spot, have done for a while

Serban Tanasa

@TimB, I would be even more comfy in the 4th spot

Tim B

dunno. you're definitely in the running...safely through the primaries at least

Serban Tanasa

Yeah, the main election will be a different beast. I dunno how many if any of the votes i got would be a first or even second vote for me

Tim B

16:10

so many strong candidates makes it really hard to guess

I've decided I don't want a 4th choice, picking the first 3 is already hard enough

bowlturner

Tell me about it

AndreiROM

well, at least the community only stands to gain

Tim B

very true

AndreiROM

with so many strong candidates it's guaranteed that the whomever wins will be a solid mod

Tim B

I know it's been said several times but any 4 out of the top 10 would in theory be a good moderating team... of course it's impossible to know how it will work out until we see it but on screen they look solid.

James

16:19

This community is pretty friendly and cooperative, so to repeat yeah I agree any four of the ten should do fine.

Samuel

17:18

Oh weak, someone either changed an upvote to a downvote or removed an upvote and I got another downvote.

Oh well, I suppose, internet points and all that.

bowlturner

@Samuel you still have about 24-25 hours to recover don't you? Still might make it, but not looking good

Samuel

@bowlturner Well, it's not as if I'll hold a rally on the campaign trail :)

bowlturner

true.

Tim B

I'll do an update, give me a few seconds

bowlturner

About 40? ;)

Tim B

17:27

1. HDE 226868: 154 (162 up, -8 down)
2. Tim B: 146 (153 up, -7 down)
3. Monica Cellio: 142 (150 up, -8 down)
4. bowlturner: 94 (104 up, -10 down)
5. Serban Tanasa: 86 (90 up, -4 down)
6. Michael Kjörling: 74 (82 up, -8 down)
7. ArtOfCode: 68 (79 up, -11 down)
8. James: 53 (60 up, -7 down)
9. Monty Wild: 47 (54 up, -7 down)
10. bilbo_pingouin: 35 (38 up, -3 down)
11. Samuel: 33 (49 up, -16 down)
12. DaaaahWhoosh: 30 (35 up, -5 down)
13. JDługosz: 11 (18 up, -7 down)
14. Aify: 6 (16 up, -10 down)

No change

votes seem to have slowed down a lot

numbers haven't changed much all day

bowlturner

I don't think they've changed much since last evening.

Samuel

I suppose I'll stop withholding my vote from @bilbo_pingouin now...

Tim B

your call :)

bowlturner

I think he means he's pulling out the downvote to snip ! ;)

Samuel

You could update and see :)

Buahahaha

Tim B

17:33

I wonder what happens if you are dead even

it probably resolves using rep

bowlturner

or downvotes as a tie breaker

Samuel

Yeah, not worth trying in that case.

Tim B

1. HDE 226868: 154 (162 up, -8 down)
2. Tim B: 146 (153 up, -7 down)
3. Monica Cellio: 142 (150 up, -8 down)
4. bowlturner: 94 (104 up, -10 down)
5. Serban Tanasa: 86 (90 up, -4 down)
6. Michael Kjörling: 74 (82 up, -8 down)
7. ArtOfCode: 68 (79 up, -11 down)
8. James: 53 (60 up, -7 down)
9. Monty Wild: 47 (54 up, -7 down)
10. bilbo_pingouin: 36 (39 up, -3 down)
11. Samuel: 33 (49 up, -16 down)
12. DaaaahWhoosh: 31 (36 up, -5 down)
13. JDługosz: 11 (18 up, -7 down)
14. Aify: 6 (16 up, -10 down)

Samuel

Or upvotes ;)

Tim B

you upvoted bilbo, very magnanimous of you :)

Samuel

17:34

I loosed my vote on @DaaaahWhoosh too.

Well If I'm going to loose, I'm going to do it with some magnanimity.

Also votes are secret. It appears that my vote was up, I'll not confirm that.

bilbo_pingouin

tie breakers are resolved through reputation

and that's very noble of you to loose your upvotes :-) but note that it is possible that some voters wait for the last hours, so do not lose hope just yet... and if you do remove your upvote, I'll understand :-)

for the nominations, most were done within the first 24 hours... an the last ones on the last day

Samuel

17:52

@bilbo_pingouin Naw, I'm realizing how polarizing I apparently am here. Whatever the reason, it would make me a bad choice for mod. If I can't get the benefit of the doubt for mod actions it's not going to be a good time for anyone.

bilbo_pingouin

as you wish, I feel like I should mention that it might not be so dramatic, but could be some not well received Q&A or presentation text...

Monica Cellio

I cast upvotes for people I think would be good mods and (a couple) downvotes for people who I think wouldn't be this time (no matter how awesome you might be, three weeks is too new). And there are a bunch in the middle I haven't voted on yet, though as I read questionnaires I'm able to add some upvotes there.

Oh sorry, didn't mean to jump into the middle of your conversation. Was reading the transcript and missed the latest.

bilbo_pingouin

19:57

1. HDE 226868: 154 (162 up, -8 down)
2. Tim B: 146 (153 up, -7 down)
3. Monica Cellio: 142 (150 up, -8 down)
4. bowlturner: 94 (104 up, -10 down)
5. Serban Tanasa: 86 (91 up, -5 down)
6. Michael Kjörling: 74 (82 up, -8 down)
7. ArtOfCode: 68 (79 up, -11 down)
8. James: 53 (60 up, -7 down)
9. Monty Wild: 47 (54 up, -7 down)
10. bilbo_pingouin: 36 (39 up, -3 down)
11. Samuel: 35 (50 up, -15 down)
12. DaaaahWhoosh: 31 (36 up, -5 down)
13. JDługosz: 11 (18 up, -7 down)
14. Aify: 7 (17 up, -10 down)

AndreiROM

not much has changed

bilbo_pingouin

@Samuel you're going up, one downvote converted in upvote :)

Tim B

21:07

1. HDE 226868: 155 (163 up, -8 down) +1
2. Tim B: 147 (154 up, -7 down) +2
3. Monica Cellio: 143 (151 up, -8 down) +2
4. bowlturner: 95 (105 up, -10 down) +1
5. Serban Tanasa: 87 (92 up, -5 down) +1
6. Michael Kjörling: 74 (82 up, -8 down) +1
7. ArtOfCode: 69 (80 up, -11 down) +2
8. James: 53 (60 up, -7 down) No change
9. Monty Wild: 47 (54 up, -7 down) No change
10. bilbo_pingouin: 37 (40 up, -3 down) +4
11. Samuel: 34 (50 up, -16 down) -2 (2 downvotes added)
12. DaaaahWhoosh: 32 (37 up, -5 down) +2

Votes since this morning

largest change is bilbo's +4, most people only 1 or 2 votes in either direction

bowlturner

I think someone is messing with @Samuel. Switched their vote back

HDE 226868

Congrats to @bilbo_pingouin in being the least unpopular, with the lowest number of downvotes.

bilbo_pingouin

thanks... but last time that was mentioned I got a downvote within minutes ;)

bowlturner

well you'd still have the lowest!

bilbo_pingouin

ah Serban got another one...?

bowlturner

21:14

yep

looks like I won't break 100 :(

I wanted a 'gold'

Tim B

there's still a day to go

bilbo_pingouin

22 hours isn't it?

bowlturner

well, there is a chance a last rush. But I think I've had one vote in the last 24-36 hours.

bilbo_pingouin

I'm pretty sure that some people are waiting for the last minute to vote... but I have no idea how many ^^"

Tim B

seems a strange thing to do but it's possible :)

HDE 226868

21:28

Has everyone submitted their answers to the candidate Q+A? That would be a valid reason to wait.

bilbo_pingouin

16/19

AndreiROM

if a candidate hasn't submitted their answers by now I doubt people are going to read them if they do so at this point

bilbo_pingouin

JD, Jim2B and Anders are still missing

but I don't know if the current scores motivates them though...

one idea to wait until the end, would be to do some strategic voting. At the end, you know how things stands. You can modify slightly some tendencies... like for the 10th place. One user can make a difference of 2 in either direction, for example

bowlturner

Well I'm getting close to my Refiner badge, it would give me one more 'point' but I don't think I'll make it before the election closes...

bilbo_pingouin

it might make some difference if you were to have it before the main election. For the primary, I don't think it's going to change your position now

bowlturner

21:40

no, I meant for the main election

DaaaahWhoosh

I'd think that the best place for last-minute voting for the primary is right around the #10 spot. Anyone higher than 8 is going to move on, lower than 12 isn't going to make it

what I'm saying is that people should vote for me :)

AndreiROM

22:01

@DaaaahWhoosh - that was hilarious :-D

Transcript for

2016 Worldbuilding Moderator Election