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@Arperum Cognitive Behavioural Therapy

Arperum

@MattЭллен Would "How do I better imagine a guy jumping along the shadow of a moving train?" be a valid question?

Although in my case it'd be more like "How can I give the imagined shadow deathray better special effects?"

@fredley Wait, does this mean we can no longer drive the Statue of Liberty around with a NES Advantage controller?

@Arperum if the answer is a lifehack, then yes.

3:04 PM

@MattЭллен This is the main problem with the site.

Yet none of them understand that.

> As Frontier are no supporting their product adequately (or at all) and are not delivering what people have paid for, I intend to set up a consumer action group so that we can collectively apply pressure.

HOW DARE YOU TAKE A HOLIDAY VACATION FRONTIER

WHY DON'T YOU HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS WITHIN 2 WEEKS OF LAUNCH?

Arperum

@Powerlord Nope, you need to type into the scannerbed of a printer/scanner combination.

RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

@OrigamiRobot People who have no idea how programming works are adorable.

@Wipqozn Is there a lifehack question that could be asked to expose the fallacy?

Unionhawk

3:07 PM

Donated! Everyone donate towards all child dungeons blindfolded. It's 75k to get there and it's at 8k

@Unionhawk Nice!

ALL I WANT IS OOT 100%

@OrigamiRobot They're doing OoT 100%.

The last run of the marathon.

I KNOW, THAT'S MY POINT

THEY ARE ALREADY DOING THE ONLY THING I WANT THEM TO

But blindfolded!

3:12 PM

MEH

Unionhawk

@OrigamiRobot what if you get OoT all child dungeons blindfolded, and also OoT 100%

21 secs ago, by Origami Robot

MEH

@Unionhawk They just read your donation.

Unionhawk

Sweet

@OrigamiRobot I primarily like combat, but I also want to be able to move around the galaxy more, and pick up the cargo of people I blow up

3:14 PM

MAYBE I'D BE MORE INTERESTED IF JABU JABU WASN'T THE WORST DUNGEON

@OrigamiRobot That's why watching it blindfolded is even better.

Honestly I think I'll probably end up pretty bored with Elite if I don't eventually become a jerk who preys on the innocent.

@StrixVaria THAT IS THE OPPOSITE OF MY FEELING

@Sterno Your course of action seems clear

Thinking back to when I played OoT last year, my least favorite dungeon was the water temple.

3:15 PM

Anyone want to buy my copy of Elite off me?

And not even because everyone says it's the worst.

@fredley Find @Wipqozn and blow up his shieldless ship, then take his cargo?

I've not played it, nor will I have the opportunity any time soon

It was just the worst.

WATER TEMPLE IS ANNOYING, BUT IT HAS DARK LINK FIGHT AND MORPHA

JABU JABU HAS NOTHING GOOD

3:17 PM

@OrigamiRobot creepy tentacle thingds

Dark Link fight was bleh, morpha fight sucked.

The only worse boss was Bongo Bongo.

HOOKSHOT IS MY FAVORITE ITEM

bongo is fun boss

DOUBLE CLAWSHOT IN TP WAS AWESOME

My favorite boss fight was Ganondorf.

3:19 PM

@StrixVaria bongo bongo was the best. that bongo playing bongo bongo on the bongo

I liked fire temple. cant remember bosses name.

@Rapitor Volvagia

VOLVAGIA

dats it

Fire temple was fun.

Forest temple was fun.

3:20 PM

i loved the water temple in master quest o.o

Shadow temple was fun except the boss.

water temple was only fun if you found the keys "correctly" otherwise fuck it.

In the DS version they apparently made the water temple easier by fixing some textures and stuff so it's easier to tell where to go.

I still had to look up what to do at one point.

OK I LIED, FOREST TEMPLE WAS WORSE THAN JABU JABU

I was trying not to do that the whole game.

3:22 PM

PHANTOM GANNONDORF CAN DIAF

@OrigamiRobot yhea, same feeling here

phantom ganon was just an easier ganondorf tho

NO

Phandom Ganon fight sucked. Regular Ganondorf fight was fun.

Pretty certain I rage quit after Phantom Ganondorf.

3:23 PM

Also the final boss, Ganon, was anticlimactic. Pretty easy.

PHANTOM GANON WAS EASILY THE WORST BOSS

Peeka Boo/Phantom Ganon >_>

@StrixVaria only because everyone cheesed him. im sure if you play it like it was designed it would be harder

@OrigamiRobot I guess he's worse than Bongo Bongo.

@Rapitor I don't even know how to cheese him...

in The Junk Drawer, Jan 2 at 1:24, by Sabre Tooth

thank goodness I left this site - no scope (at least no agreement) and seemingly anarchy - I actually hope this site succeeds, but I now can see that the site's scope is based on the whim of 1 or 2 members and if you disagree, well...

3:25 PM

roll between his legs, big goron sword.

@Rapitor I did not have the biggoron sword. Rolling between his legs seemed obvious though.

your supposed to hit his tail with the light arrow

I think I used the hammer.

but hammer or big goron sword made it effortless

@Rapitor I'M NOT SURE THAT'S TRUE

3:26 PM

@OrigamiRobot Uh? You're not sure I used the hammer?

@Rapitor Yeah, I think it's more like "figure out how to do this without your sword" and there's just a few options that all work.

for the master sword being what it supposedly is... big goron or hammer was almost always better

So just asked my first Stack Overflow question in a long, long time.

@Rapitor deku sticks are better then biggoron sword ;)

@Yuuki It is a bit scary how little I use SO nowadays.

@JasonBerkan I use it, but I don't use it. I look at other questions when I have problems, but I rarely ask or answer.

3:29 PM

@Serverfrog yeah but they break

and you cant use stick as adult

@Yuuki I hardly even do that. Most of the time, the answer isn't on SO, but on a random forum somewhere.

@Wipqozn Does this mean @Sterno is the angriest person on Earth?

@Yuuki low blow

@Rapitor We must all take every chance to comment on @Sterno's advanced age.

It is our honor-bound duty as members of the Bridge.

@JasonBerkan is older than me. You can even tell by seeing how grumpy his user profile text is.

3:35 PM

@Sterno :P

@Sterno I've know this, but I refuse to accept it.

I'm too used to making light of your age.

Besides, there's no @JasonBerkan equivalent to @Sternold.

> Who really cares what happens on another site on the Internet?

I JUST HAVE TO POINT OUT THE IRONY HERE :P

Well, I guess I could use @JasonBerkancient.

Headcanon: @JasonBerkancient is the new (old?) @Sternold.

I went with @OldManBerkan on my birthday.

> STOP TROLLING LIFEHACKS! And then stop telling everyone in The Bridge about how you are trolling lifehacks. Who really cares what happens on another site on the Internet?

Oh wow, that is grumpy.

3:39 PM

@Wipqozn Who said that?

Q: Roccat Pyra (wired) Unable to use set macros for Phantasy Star Online 2 (PSO2)?

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My wired Roccat Pyra has working macros. However, when playing PSO2 (SEGA JP and Game Guard) I can't seem to make the commands work. To an extent, I can use the Easy-Shift function. I set the right side-button as the easy-shift trigger and put an "IE Backward" button shortcut on the downward mou...

@Yuuki @JasonBerkold, obviously

@Wipqozn Yup. I was pretty close to reporting one of our mods (and I flagged one of our other mods).

@Sterno @JasoldBerkan?

@fredley I think we have a winner.

I think the answer to the question about who cares what happens on another site on the Internet is "Lots of people"

I am able to care about multiple websites simultaneously.

3:41 PM

@Sterno xkcd people wrong on the internet etc.

@fredley They're wrong in my backyard.

SaintWacko

@fredley @OldonBerkan?

@Sterno Your Internet backyard.

@JasonBerkan I WISH YOU HAD

SaintWacko

(Say it out loud)

3:44 PM

@Yuuki GET. OFF. MY. LAWN.

@JasonBerkan My word. What a bad ass.

@Wipqozn Trolling is trolling, regardless of who does it.

If someone who hated video games came into Arqade and acted like some of you have acted on Lifehacks, the uproar would be huge.

@JasonBerkan What kind of monster hates video games?

Q: How to start co-op in Halo MCC?

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I seem to have searched the menus everywhere, but I can't find how to start a co-op mode in Halo Master Chief Collection. I only know Halo Reach, where it was under multiplayer > matchmaking > coop, or something like that. Here, I can only find versus modes in the multiplayer menu. Thanks !

halo-mcc

@JasonBerkan But during the infancy of a site, don't you think that kind of behaviour is required in order to determine the scope?

3:47 PM

I also don't know if you realize that what we say in The Bridge is vastly more trollish than what's happening on the actual site.

@Sterno Yeah this. I don't think there's been any actual misbehaviour on the site, regardless of how much we joke about it here

@JasonBerkan I say "trolling on Lifehacks", but I haven't acted on Lifehacks in a week, which is pretty much half the lifetime of the site.

@fredley There has been some, but minor

@badp is a bad person.

@Sterno And generally it's done to deliberately provoke meta discussion, which is constructive

Even then, I think I asked a grand total of one actual trollish question.

3:48 PM

@fredley No. Trolling does not determine scope.

Meta discussions determine scope.

Which was capitalizing on the truly ridiculous number of "how do I eat <fruit> without getting my hands sticky?" questions.

And I have an actioned mod flag on Lifehacks that says that someone at SE agrees with me on at least one answer.

@JasonBerkan Yes, but a site with poorly defined scope that is open to trolling requires meta discussion. One way to kickstart this process is by asking a question that will provoke said discussion.

@Rapitor zeldainformer.com/news/… ;) there it is used

@Serverfrog THAT'S NOT ADULT LINK

3:51 PM

@OrigamiRobot noep, i know ^^" but you can use the stick against ganon ;)

@Rapitor ONLY SAID YOU CAN'T USE STICKS AS ADULT LINK

I've been following Lifehacks chat and meta closely and I don't think I could honestly tell you right now which questions on that site should be on or off topic

@JasonBerkan Considering how some of the SE employees have been acting on Lifehacks, I don't see that as particularly convincing of anything.

@fredley No. Just start a meta discussion about it. It reflects better on you than trolling (and bragging about said trolling here). And with that, I'm done with this discussion.

@OrigamiRobot default setup: ganon vs adult link (logically ) o.o

3:52 PM

@Serverfrog thats still kid link. and when speedrunners are involved. all rules are out the window

@Yuuki I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH SHOG THERE

> So I've got my little goad and I'm gonna keep prodding until you're ready to step up and own this thing. – Shog9♦

This is what's going on. Prodding.

@Rapitor ok ok i loose... i know o.o i should't discusse something here ._.

I think every private beta I've been part of I've asked stupid questions, because that's what helps the community define itself.

Q: Why isn't this question about opening ketchup packets on-topic?

All I'm saying is that I am not the oldest, grumpiest person here. I'm 2nd.

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How can I keep from squirting myself with ketchup whenever I use ketchup packets? Per this meta, I think it fits the criteria. It is a problem most people encounter at some period in their life. It has a common solution (ripping it open with my fingers) that I want to improve. I have described...

discussion questions

That was my "stupid question", but it wasn't a troll.

It's also determined eventually to be on-topic.

It helped them define scope!

3:55 PM

@JasonBerkan You can say, "oh, just participate on meta". The problem is, most people don't actually go to Meta unless they're having a problem with the site.

Doing things like that actually earned me a mod nomination.

This was mine. It provoked a heated meta discussion, so mission accomplished.

Very rarely do people think "Oh, this could be a problem area, let's talk about it on Meta" instead of "Hey, someone asked a stupid question. Let's talk about if that should be a thing on Meta."

Q: How can I stop my fingers getting sticky when eating?

And look at the wonderful ~~result~~ lifehack:

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This is an attempt at a canonical Q&A for the question above, as suggested in this comment: This should replace the Mango, BBQ Ribs, Chips, Apple and Orange eating questions. I am trying to eat a food that is juicy / sticky / has sauce on it / is greasy. How can I do this without getting ...

cleaning food

lololol

3:58 PM

I actually do this same thing here on Arqade

I remember that making @Frank and some others pretty mad though, but it actually led to meta and resolution rather than random whining in chat.

If you don't want to make people mad, stay off the internet altogether.

@Sterno Ironically enough, that's one of the areas I agreed with you.

@Frank Not my method though, I suspect.

As our policy at the time was enforced pretty inconsistenly.

@Sterno Your method tends to highlight the problem in the most aggravating way possible.

@Frank :)

4:00 PM

Does it work? Yes. Is it the best way to bring a problem to people's attention? Not even maybe.

Not that I'm one to talk; I tend to dislike questions and then argue them in the ground.

@Frank That sounds like somebody else I know

well, me

@GnomeSlice Who?

replace 'methods' with 'everything'

@GnomeSlice I don't think your NSFW thumbnails count as "highlighting the problem in the most aggravating way possible".

I just was making a joke about how much I piss people off

I guess it wasn't funny

4:07 PM

@GnomeSlice It was all right.

ur alright

@GnomeSlice I guess you could say you pissed people off with the joke. Oh buuuuurrrrnnn.

ur a whatever

@Yuuki I'm picturing someone with a highlighter sitting in a library, dragging it slowly over the page so that it squeaks loudly, waiting 10-20 seconds between each incidence so as to be as aggravating as possible.

squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeak

...

....

...

squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeak

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAK

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Q: FPS Lag when playing CS:GO

Okay, so I got this old laptop Im playing on. I think I got it in 2010. Im using it now because my gaming computer is broken. (It just randomly restarts, tried changing the motherboard to a better one but that wasnt the problem. Would be nice if you knew how to fix this too :P) Anyways, I bought...

pc

4:17 PM

Considering how loud my college library is, I don't think you'd be able to hear highlighters.

BLEGH, SO CLUNKY

@OrigamiRobot He's good just for that first ability.

Gives you a 3/3 to attack with one on Turn 2. Very handy.

4:33 PM

I see someone mentioned GameGrumps earlier... according to her Tumblr, Suzy is Markiplier's sister, which means Aaron is Markiplier's brother-in-law.

THIS GUY IS LAME

@OrigamiRobot yeah, his ability is really bad.

His ability would be okay if it wasn't so expensive.

IT DOES SAY NONLAND. MAYBE IT'S NOT SO BAD

@OrigamiRobot There's already a card that has abilities like that

It's called Figure of Destiny

@murgatroid99 YEA, FIGURE OF DESTINY

THAT CARD WAS CLUNKY TOO

THAT'S WHY LEVEL UP BECAME A THING

4:41 PM

Those abilities don't quite match up with leveling

+1/+1 counters matter in this set

YEA, HIS LAST ABILITY WOULDN'T WORK WITH LEVEL UP

AND THEY WOULDN'T DO A SINGLE CARD WITH LEVEL UP

@OrigamiRobot that too

@OrigamiRobot That's a lot of mana to spend to keep putting +1/+1 counters on it.

IT'S STILL CLUNKY THOUGH

you're clunky

4:44 PM

@OrigamiRobot It's clear how it works/what it does, and I think that's what's important

@murgatroid99 BUT IT'S NOT CLEAR WHAT STATE IT'S IN

@OrigamiRobot Particle!

@Powerlord No! It is a wave

@KevinvanderVelden particle!

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Q: Marriage on Skyrim

So I got married then to Halburn in solestheim and somehow my dlc got disconnected from the game. I don't have a storage device I have a 20gb usb, but further more, I went over to him one day and I wasn't married to him anymore, but I had the ring and I've talked to the priest guy. How can I re m...

skyrim

4:51 PM

@Yuuki Stop interfering

lol

@Yuuki @_@

Double-slit experiment

The double-slit experiment is a demonstration that light and matter can display characteristics of both classically defined waves and particles; moreover, it displays the fundamentally probabilistic nature of quantum mechanical phenomena. This experiment is sometimes referred to as Young's experiment. The experiment belongs to a general class of "double path" experiments, in which a wave is split into two separate waves that later combine back into a single wave. Changes in the path lengths of both waves result in a phase shift, creating an interference pattern. Another version is the Mach–Zehnder...

This experiment, while elementary, is such a mindfuck

How can a single electron interfere with itself?!

New math says it might actually be the uncertainty principle in disguise

4:57 PM

in order for quantum mechanics to be true all electrons are one electron

Uuh?

@fredley That's pretty much quantum mechanics in a nutshell.

@KevinvanderVelden I'll find the Simon Cox quote when I get home. I didn't make that up. He might have made it up

@MattЭллен All electrons are points on the same wave function?

@fredley I can't remember exactly. maybe that's it

4:58 PM

One-electron universe

The one-electron universe postulate, proposed by John Wheeler in a telephone call to Richard Feynman in the spring of 1940, states that all electrons and positrons are actually manifestations of a single entity moving backwards and forwards in time. According to Richard Feynman: I received a telephone call one day at the graduate college at Princeton from Professor Wheeler, in which he said, "Feynman, I know why all electrons have the same charge and the same mass" "Why?" "Because, they are all the same electron!" The idea is based on the world lines traced out across spacetime by every electron...

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@MattЭллен are you sure it's simon cox? I can find 3 footballers, an auther, a car designer and a golfer with that name on wiki

@KevinvanderVelden someone cox

@MattЭллен brian cox?

the big rainbow book of quantum theory

@KevinvanderVelden yes!

5:00 PM

That makes more sense =p

@MattЭллен When you said "The Rainbow book of Quantum Mechanics", I thought you were joking

@fredley well, this is what I found while googling for that:

First hit on google

@OrigamiRobot If you didn't want to track the characteristics of your permanents, you are playing the wrong game

@KevinvanderVelden Someone's trapped in a MLP infested filter bubble

5:12 PM

@fredley also only pony related hit on google

dontbubble.us

@fredley You can turn anything into criticism with the right spin

Like "this search engine directs me to content it thinks I might want to read"

@murgatroid99 Of course. I am a Google user.

I am fully integrated into Google's ecosystem, to the point that I have a Chromebook. I think it's good to be informed about stuff like this though.

It's also worth noting that that's a guide written by DuckDuckGo about why you should use DuckDuckGo instead of Google

I just don't understand why they think that people who never read anything they disagree with will want to start doing so just because DuckDuckGo doesn't filter it out of their results

Hey! I just realized I can complain about ponies again!

But I have no reason to, yet. Carry on.

5:22 PM

boingboing.net/2015/01/05/flehmen-response.html

@murgatroid99 I am aware of this

I tried using DuckDuckGo, but I couldn't find what I was looking for (often specific pages) much of the time, so I gave up

Criticism with the right spin: DuckDuckGo is impersonal. It doesn't care about what you want, but what the hivemind wants.

TIL the first emoticon in the dictionary is for a dog's penis

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@Batophobia This thumbnail juxtaposed with your previous message makes me worry about you.

@Yuuki Vsauce is a strange channel....

@Sterno Your mom's a cheerio.

5:29 PM

How they go from cereal to dogs wieners, I'm still not sure

well this was a fun time to return to the conversation...

@Rapitor It's funny how everyone returns to a conversation during fun times.

Happy New Years :D

This is a thing

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@fredley That URL makes me question SFW?

5:32 PM

@Batophobia SFW

Unless the word asshole in a lightweight font is NSFW for you

@fredley I feel like it should be "We're like the X-Men, but assholes!" instead of "We're like the X-Men, but for assholes".

Then again, the X-Men kinda are assholes so the point's a bit moot.

AGDQ tunneling twtich chat feed through controller input into a makeshift chat box on a super gameboy running pokemon red was a heck of a thing to see.

@Wipqozn OH IT'S ON NOW

So apparently, the official support site for this one library I'm testing out is Stack Overflow.

Can I cry now?

@Yuuki Yes. And tell them off, because unless they're in partnership with SO, like Fb were, it's not official.

Q: Chances finding an enchanted fishing rod?

5:42 PM

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Is there an enchanted fishing rod on 360 version? Would it be better to fish in river, pond, or ocean?

minecraft

@murgatroid99 IN MOST CASES, THERE ARE EITHER COUNTERS TO KEEP TRACK OF THAT OR ANOTHER PERMANENT PRESENT TO REMIND YOU

burn baby burn

disco inferno!

Blood Dragon.. I really need to do a second run on that.

Nothing beats looking up at the sky and seeing VHS scanlines

MAN, THIS JOKE SURE IS BURNING A HOLE IN @GnomeSlice'S POCKET

5:46 PM

best joke

WTF am I looking at

ROBOQOZN BEST QOZN

ALL HAIL ROBOQOZN

@Sterno damn straight fingersnap fingersnap

Oh wow Figure of Destiny is garbage (design-wise).

5:47 PM

@Sterno oh god, I forgot about this horrifyingly handsome picture.

@StrixVaria THIS SET IS... SET... 1000 YEARS IN THE PAST. I'M GOING TO ASSUME THEY'RE USING THIS AS AN EXCUSE TO REVISIT BADLY DESIGNED MECHANICS :P

@OrigamiRobot Bring banding back.

BRING BACK LAWNMOWER ELVES

Man, I couldn't even get it wrong right

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Oh, I guess they still print those guys like crazy.

@Sterno CALLING THEM THIS FROM NOW ON

Lawnmower Elves are best Elves.

5:51 PM

Bring back Shadow

Still waiting for magic to add 6th color

Anti-mana

Needs yellow.

I would also accept a 3rd unglued set

WTB 4-COLOR LEGENDS

5:53 PM

@OrigamiRobot That's a terrible idea and you should feel bad for thinking it.

CAN'T TELL IF SERIOUS

I'm not sure if I'm serious.

I think Unhinged had some of my favorites. 'Destroy target silver bordered permanent that you can see from where you are seated' or something like that. That one caused a little havoc in our draft event.

Guys, should I go get a Diet Mountain Dew, or a Mango Madness Snapple (which tastes much better, but has no caffeine)?

I should get both? YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

I wouldn't serve diet moutnain dew to my enemies. Go with the Snapple

5:55 PM

@MadMAxJr So you could destroy a permanent that's on another table?

@Yuuki YES.