The Bridge

2:00 PM

Also fun, on my schedule for this week: "Do an export for this customer", my reply "Okay, what's the export. Oh it's removing duplicate customer information and then exporting something" ... "uuh, there's 4 hours scheduled this, the export is 2 with feedback, the deduping is... a day, at least"

Arperum

The Belgian part is wrong.

Frank

@KevinvanderVelden I love those.

Powerlord

Argh, I still have Layton vs. Wright music stuck in my head

Frank

"Uh. You haven't scheduled enough time to do this. What doesn't get done?"

Arperum

But I like how Limburg is both in Belgium and Netherland a crapshoot. As long as it stays in jest of course.

Kevin van der Velden

2:03 PM

So I'm moving from fruit pickers to train delay central

Or wait no, from bible belt to train delay central*

I think, Utrecht is weird on that map, what's the brown bit supposed to be labeled as?

Arperum

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3ventic

@OKAY,PANIC. You can't just switch between 12 hour clock and 24 hour clock in the same time range

badp

I've finally watched Frozen

3ventic

Is it worth watching?

Arperum

2:08 PM

@3ventic 14:24pm is indeed a special hour. It's probably in BTT.

FEichinger

So, it's from 17:20pm to 5:24pm, then?

badp

@3ventic Some parts of it feel like they're clearly been squeezed to make the movie fit in 90 minutes

The start in particular goes at warp speed

Kevin van der Velden

@FEichinger no, 17:24pm is 5:24am the next day

badp

Things settle down a little bit later on.

3ventic

But I like 2-3 hour movies :(

FEichinger

2:09 PM

@KevinvanderVelden But they said 4 minutes!

Kevin van der Velden

They lied

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden I know someone who moved to a room in Utrecht last week, if you meet her, say hello from me.

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum well, I'm moving to the brown area around utrecht which has no label of its own so I think that's still train delay central?

But I work in Utrecht city so

badp

Also, of course, we're way out of the age range, and the start is basically songs back to back to back

Again things settle down after a while

That said it was good time

Not get-stuck-with-let-it-go-in-your-head-for-four-goddamn-months good time, but good time.

I also watched it on sat tv, so I didn't exactly pay an admission fee for it.

Arperum

@badp @Yuuki

Powerlord

2:12 PM

@badp Aren't all Disney movies like that?

badp

@Powerlord It's been a while since I saw one admittedly

Powerlord

I mean, the opening to Beauty and the Beast (which is 20ish years old) is intentionally like that.

3ventic

Powerlord

I forget how they put it... they were trying to cram 15 minutes of dialog into a 3 minute song.

badp

It's not even like that

Their parents die in about 20 seconds

FEichinger

2:13 PM

@3ventic RIPqozn

badp

(this happens at the very start, yo)

They say about five words and boom, gone and forever off the movie

Yeah, not the kind of film you want to settle down and rethink about afterwards

Kevin van der Velden

So uuh, belgium has a pretty large gas station (as in, largest in the world):

That btw, is the gas station, the whole thing.

badp

@KevinvanderVelden Sometimes I wish I took up engineering of road systems or whatever there is at our university that deals with this

Arperum

Belgium has a stupid amount of cars/trucks driving around. They all need fuel.

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum it's the last gasstation on the way to france =p

FEichinger

2:17 PM

@KevinvanderVelden What exactly defines the bounds of a "gas station"?

Kevin van der Velden

@FEichinger where it stops being owned by the gas station

Arperum

Hell, apparently it's profitable to have at least four gas stations right next to each other.

badp

@FEichinger the woods and the highway?

Rapitor

that looks more like a rest stop with gas station added.

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden There is more then one road that leads to France.

badp

2:18 PM

The part with the ten lines in the up-left corner does look like a tool booth tbh

Arperum

@Rapitor Nah, not enough parking for a proper rest spot.

Yuuki

Yo.

FEichinger

@Arperum It does look like about half the area is just parking, though.

badp

what even is a rest stop?

Rapitor

@badp a place where you can stop and rest

Arperum

2:19 PM

and more often then not, get something to eat.

badp

@Rapitor well yeah but that's... "not large enough"?

Yuuki

@Frank So I've done a tiny bit of testing and I think I have some slight understanding of how the sword and shield crops work.

Arperum

@badp Well, most of the time they have more parking place?

Frank

@Yuuki Oh?

Arperum

Belgium probably has more asphalt then forest.

Rapitor

2:20 PM

@badp most ive been to are like 1/4 that size. a parking lot. restrooms, vending machines, picnic area, pet area, parting lot for trucks to "overnight"... thats pretty much all the basics a "rest stop" has.

FEichinger

Rapitor

at least in US..

Yuuki

@Frank The base crop (level 1) will mimic any weapon as a base, as if it was forged with Light Ore and another weapon. The caveat is that it will only mimic weapons that you have previously forged.

badp

This is the largest one I'm aware of around here

Arperum

@FEichinger two lines for trucks and two for cars. especially the one on the right side of the picture looks kinda smallish.

badp

2:22 PM

...and it doesn't even have gas refueling

Yuuki

I've grown about 72 Plant Swords and the best ones have had 6000 ATK, which matches the Devil Finger axe that I've crafted. Brought them to Barrett and, lo and behold, they all mimic the Devil Finger.

badp

In fact the only remarkable thing about it is that the restaurant is above the highway

Yuuki

And the best shield I've grown has persistently been the Kite Shield, which again is the best shield I've crafted.

Frank

@Yuuki I'm just envisioning you swinging a plant around and murdering everything.

FEichinger

@Arperum My point is more that this cuts the actual gas station into half the size.

Yuuki

2:23 PM

@Frank Oh, it is beautiful.

Arperum

@FEichinger That's true.

Yuuki

Each level that the crop has after that adds additional upgrade material.

badp

@FEichinger Not really; who owns that parking area?

Yuuki

However, this upgrade material is completely random.

Arperum

still, 10 trucks and ten cars. or something like that who can refuel at the same time is quite a bit. And that's only one side.

badp

2:25 PM

Yeah the gas pump stuff is remarkable.

Yuuki

Also, even at level 1, there is a chance that the sword/shield will have items synthesized on it (basically extra items added during the crafting phase), although the chance of having multiple extra items synthesized is vanishingly small.

Powerlord

Apparently Anandtech's founder left and now works for... Apple?

Yuuki

I kinda noticed the mimicry part because of the way I level skills. I tend to max my crafting skills as soon as possible and I focus on one weapon type at a time so I've only ever forged 3 or 4 Short Swords and that one Axe because I got lucky with chests in Sharance.

badp

@Powerlord this seems about right.

also, wat.

Samsung ~~Glorified Galaxy Gear 4~~ Gear VR Powered by Oculus

Frank

@badp So Samsung isn't competing so much as just building on?

badp

2:38 PM

@Frank It seems like a cooperation

That said, please cooperate with anything but not Samsung. or Apple.

Private Pansy

@KevinvanderVelden That looks more like a toll booth than a gas station

badp

It also looks like it's going to be garbage

VR needs about 75 frames per second

That monitor is 1440p

and it's a tablet.

"Next gen" consoles can't get anywhere close 60fps 1080p, what hopes do mobile phones have of reaching 75fps 1440p?!

SAMSUNG GALAXY VR EMPTY CUBE WITH DOTS EXPERIENCE

NOT TOO MANY DOTS

Lazers

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Powerlord

@badp They can't?

I know the XBone was having issues with that, but I thought the PS4 had managed to hit the 60fps 1080p goal

badp

@Powerlord They might be able to port the Windows Mobile 6 school 3D cube

"ZOMG POLYGONS"

"please stare directly at your feet for YouTube"

Powerlord

2:53 PM

@badp Sorry, I should have specified that I was talking about the 1080p next gen console part.

badp

@Powerlord Wasn't there a lawsuit for a game that boasted native 1080p 60fps but it actually was horizontally upscaled?

"but the native image is still 1080 pixels high!!!!!"

Arperum

... setting the maxwidth on a jlabel breaks completely unrelated stuff. Fancy.

transparancy + swing = guaranteed problems.

Powerlord

@Arperum Ew, Swing.

Arperum

@Powerlord Ya well, what would you suggest if I end up with some other Java project?

badp

@Arperum Not Java

:P

Yuuki

2:57 PM

F--k it, I give up. I'm gonna use the reset trick to start the third arc.

badp

@Arperum oh oh oh! the obvious solution: OpenGL.

Arperum

@badp It must work on everything, cannot be online.

@badp DIAF. Been there, done that. Sell that to my boss.

badp

@Arperum what really?

You tried selling OpenGL as the solution for building a user interface?

I was not being serious, man.

Arperum

Well, it takes too much time to set up. I've done some 3d stuff with OpenGL before.

@badp I didn't try that. Wouldn't work either.

Kevin van der Velden

Today I learned: @Arperum is the real WTF.

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badp

3:00 PM

@Arperum I'm sorry it wasn't obvious enough that I was kidding; next time I'll suggest ray tracing instead

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden Starred for truth.

Powerlord

@Arperum SWT?

badp

Also remind me to add "DIAF" to my list of things I need to flag on sight

Arperum

Heck, the only completely working solution I've found for all my repainting issues is changing the width of the window by one pixel... No, telling the damn thing to repaint everything just doesn't work.

@Powerlord Wasn't aware of the existence of said thing. I haven't used java for years

Powerlord

@Arperum It was created by IBM because they were... dissatisfied with Swing. Or so I understand.

It acts as a Java wrapper for the underlying OS's widgets.

Arperum

3:06 PM

Does it allow to just drop a single .jar on any pc/mac/linux that has the required java installed? It can't download extra libraries it might require. ANd can the same jar be used on any of these platforms?

@Powerlord so it has a different extra library based on OS?

agent86

I think I learned SWT back when I first learned java 14 years ago or so.

Arperum

@agent86 In that case my school wa even more lacking then I knew they were.

agent86

these days I say "eff it" and do most of my tools in HTML/JS.

if I'm going to fail to make a pixel-perfect UI, I want to fail spectacularly and with a bazillion lines of CSS in there somewhere.

Arperum

I have the whole thing on some horrible VB website. but offline version is required.

badp

@Arperum run a web server locally!!!!!

Powerlord

3:12 PM

@Arperum Lets just say... it has different binaries depending on the OS. Then again, so does Swing... you just don't notice it because it's shipped with the JRE.

Frank

User complains that they're locked down like Fort Knox.

I have observed at least a half dozen security issues with the program in question.

Security working as intended.

Yuuki

@Frank I'm slowly but surely getting Level 10 seeds in the shop.

And Dungeon, Sword, and Shield seeds but I think I want to leave those at Level 1.

badp

Our computer labs at uni have moved to Citrix

Computers running Citrix aren't dumb terminals; they're actual full-featured computers, they're just locked down like one

The only thing you can do with them is open Internet Explorer (for Citrix), a Downloads folder and other things they might've forgot such as Notepad.

It is EXTREMELY painful.

Yuuki

@Frank What kinds of issues? I think might be taking Web Security next semester or something so I'm kinda interested.

badp

The only thing that gets shared is the clipboard content, so if we want to pull things out of the Citrix VM running that's Matlab for us, you have to make a file in the Downloads folder, open it up in Notepad, copy paste the contents over, then upload it someplace.

Frank

3:24 PM

@Yuuki It's not web security. Just local security.

For one, the first step was disabling UAC.

badp

@Frank wat

Frank

Which sends up lots of red flags all by itself.

Then the various installers and configuration tools all need admin access on top of that.

And the company won't provide any documentation about how to go about doing this; it's all proprietary, they say.

Yuuki

What's a legitimate reason to turn off UAC?

Jason Berkan

That usually means they wrote their installers / config tools when Win95 was new, and haven't done anything but maintenance on them since then.

Rapitor

@Yuuki its annoying as hell.

Yuuki

3:28 PM

@Rapitor I haven't really found it a problem, but I mostly develop (or try to develop) web apps so I don't run into problems with it.

badp

@Rapitor That is not a legitimate reason

Yuuki

And I'm relatively new at developing/coding so there's that too.

Frank

@JasonBerkan And from the UI, it certainly looks it.

@Rapitor For your personal machines, yeah. For corporate, that's just asking for things to go wrong.

Powerlord

@Rapitor I leave UAC on for my local machine... not sure why you think it's a problem.

Yuuki

So, these people next to me are randomly ragging on Justin Bieber. While I don't like the guy, I feel like this was extremely random and some of the things they're suggesting are just... wrong.

Like mailing him to ISIS/ISIL.

I wouldn't do that to anyone.

badp

3:41 PM

UAC was significantly improved since 2007

or rather, everything else was significantly improved since 2007

This blog post shows how things changed from 2007 to 2008

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