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7:00 PM
@DwarfSlice I mentioned it 8 minutes ago
Scroll up :P
 
8 mins ago, by Brian
@Cerberus You mean like GameStick?
derp, missed that
I still want one of those.
 
something like Ouya seems silly nowadays, considering you can use a ps4 controller with most android phones
 
Or a PS3 one.
 
@Cerberus yes, that's what I meant to say
I don't even know if ps4 controller works, I assume it does tho
 
I read those were the best, a year or so ago. Of course that was before the PS4...
 
7:01 PM
@Cerberus It's not even recognizably Android, has it's own store, is controlled entirely via controller.
 
Oh haha.
 
900 hero levels to go until 25k levels achievement.
 
@Brian Okay, well, the Google device has access to the Play Store, so that is one handicap less...
 
@Chippies and that my Android phone is more powerful than my Ouya
 
@Brian that's the thing - at least you update your phone every few years, you're not gonna do that with ouya
 
7:03 PM
@Cerberus I actually don't see much point in it if it's just going to play normal Android games. Ouya has exclusives and features console games rather than just mobile games.
 
I wish the gamestick had done better.
I'm pretty sure it's going to die.
 
in 10min after ascended i got to level 215
 
@Chippies 360s work the best if you can connect em.
 
@James how would you connect them though? through usb?
360s have proprietary wireless tech, afaik
 
@Brian Right, neither would I...if I wanted a device permanently connected to my screen, I'd probably find out what the best Android on a stick was and get that one. It might turn out to be the Google thing, but...
 
7:08 PM
@Cerberus why not get a decent tablet? you can leave it attached to the screen and remove when you want to move it
seems like a win-win
 
Well, tablets are much more expensive.
 
@Cerberus I don't know the prices, but would it be that much more expensive than a stick for same specs?
I mean, you are getting a screen with it, so it would be more expensive
 
I guess it depends on your household, but you may want to leave your tablet lying on your table and your stick connected to the screen at all times.
 
@Chippies Because then you're stuck playing mobile games, tablets don't offer console games.
 
wtf so the gamestick is £79.99 now instead of $80
when did that happen.
 
7:10 PM
@Brian are you saying android sticks have exclusive "console" games?
 
@Chippies Tablets have screens, which are almost half the cost of the hardware, I believe; and tablets have far higher margins. So in the end you pay thrice what you would pay for the same SoC etc.
 
@Chippies USB is indeed how I connect em
 
Wow, they must really be struggling.
$29.95
=[
Poor gamestick
 
@Cerberus makes sense
 
@Chippies Only a few, like Ouya. Normal Android sticks are just that, small computers running Android.
 
7:11 PM
@Cerberus so, unless you get ouya (old hardware), you're still stuck with mobile games
 
@Chippies That's what we were discussing a few minutes ago. If the new Nexus console doesn't, there isn't really any point. Ouya does. I don't know about GameStick, but I would assume it does.
 
@Chippies Well, you can use emulators to play tons of Nintendo, Sega, etc. games on Android.
 
I haven't gamed on android in years and I can't imagine gaming on it now on a TV
 
@Cerberus ...illegally
 
@Brian It depends.
 
7:13 PM
@Cerberus that is a good idea, didn't think of that
 
It comes down to this, people do not want to play games on their TV that they play on their phone.
 
I think they might, if the games are fun.
 
The big draw for the OUYA for a lot of people is that it's an emulator with a controller they can hook up to their TV
 
@Cerberus True, technically it is legal if you already own the console and the game.
 
A lot of those don't work too well though. Pokemon is okay, anything with any level of platforming doesn't work on a touch screen alone.
 
7:13 PM
That is why Ouya and GameStick etc are doing so crappily
 
@Brian It depends on what you own and on your jurisdiction. But frankly, do most people care?
 
@James I play XCOM everywhere.
 
what about bluestacks?
 
It's so hard to get a ROM outside of the internet
 
@Chippies What about it?
 
7:14 PM
@Unionhawk Not sure what you mean, but many people play Mario, Sonic, etc. just fine on touch screens? And you can use a controller with the emulator, of course.
 
No Legend of Grimrock 2 questions yet. I am so disappointed.
 
@Brian idk, you can play android stuff on PC with it
 
@JasonBerkan Gratz :)
 
What does Free Weekend Weekend mean? I AM SO FONCUSED
 
@Cerberus Those people are wizards. And I mean specifically phone-based emulators. Computer based, sure.
 
7:15 PM
@Chippies What I've been saying though is that I don't want to do that.
 
a cheap home media pc with bluestacks would allow you to play android games, as well as other stuff
 
@Sterno If you don't have it, you can play it this weekend, and it's also on sale if you like it.
(usually is on sale)
 
and a cheap home media pc could be built for around 200$
 
@Unionhawk Not sure what you mean, but it's not hard to install an emulator, get a game, connect a bluetooth controller, configure the emulator, and start playing. Perhaps the initial set-up may take some time, but it's not that complicated?
 
which is more expensive than an android device, but offers a lot more
 
7:16 PM
WIZARDS I SAY
 
@Chippies Still a lot more expensive than an Android stick...
@Chippies That is true. So it depends on what you want.
@Unionhawk waves magic wand Careful, now...
 
@Cerberus miles beyond the power of an android stick though, in the long run a better option, if you want more than just android games
 
Absolutely.
 
I'd imagine an android stick would have to be updated at least once a year to keep up with the hardware
 
I doubt that, but still.
 
7:18 PM
whereas a cheap pc could probably run android games for years and years from now
 
I am not sure how well a controller works with games in Bluestacks, though?
Perhaps it works well enough?
 
@Cerberus I don't see why it wouldn't?
 
I don't know.
 
@Chippies You're still missing the point that I don't want to play mobile games on my TV when I can already play them on my phone.
 
Never used Bluestacks or read about using it to play games that require a low response time.
 
7:19 PM
@Unionhawk Why does that require the word "weekend" twice?
 
@Brian So why not, and what do you want?
 
6 hours ago, by Unionhawk
<- please refer to avatar for current state of @Uni
 
@Cerberus I can already play mobile games on my phone, and they're typically less enjoyable than "console" games.
 
@Brian I'm not missing that point, I just don't think there's that many exclusives for you to even choose from
 
@Chippies Exclusives for what?
 
7:21 PM
Not everything can be spun around into a positive thinking statement. Saying you don't want something doesn't require you have an alternative thing you want instead.
 
@Brian "console" games or whatever you are referring. Games that are not available to regular android devices
 
@Brian Those aren't really different, you know. Final Fantasy exists for all platforms, for example.
 
I haven't heard of any android "console" that had it's own game market like xbox and playstation does
 
The thing that really interested me about the gamestick was the form factor.
If I traveled more I'd probably have one already.
 
there are android games optimized for controller use, that's probably as "console" as it can get
 
7:22 PM
@Chippies Gamestick has its own store.
 
@Cerberus I know, there are some non-mobile games you can play on mobile, like some of the Final Fantasy games, but those are more of an exception.
 
@Brian There are high-quality games for Android, though perhaps fewer than for the major consoles, and of course Windows has by far the most good games. So if that is what you're after, connecting a PC to your screen is your best option.
 
@DwarfSlice but it's not popular
 
@Chippies you didn't say it had to be popular.
 
if it's not popular, it's not gonna have a lot of games, it's not gonna have good games
 
7:23 PM
@Chippies I only know Ouya. It has exclusives.
 
@DwarfSlice it was implied in the comparison to xbox and ps
 
The original Towerfall is an OUYA exclusive.
 
@Cerberus I have not heard a single good thing about Ouya and last time I heard about it, I heard it was dead
 
Heh.
 
tbh until this discussion, I firmly believed Ouya was long gone
 
7:24 PM
I know Ouya exists...
 
@Cerberus Non-mobile games are generally a much higher quality than mobile games.
 
But that is about it.
 
There are exceptions, and remakes, but still.
 
@Brian Depends on how you count. But so what?
 
@Brian unless there's a really popular console, no one is going to make games for it exclusively
 
7:24 PM
@Brian This is mainly because mobile is easier to develop for, therefore more garbage to pollute the store
 
if it runs on android, it runs on android
 
@Batophobia Also because it has a huge user base.
 
@Chippies There are exclusives for most consoles
even Ouya
 
@Chippies but doesn't necessarily have controller support
 
@Chippies Not entirely true for high-end games...
 
7:25 PM
tbh I don't think android consoles have exclusives is a good idea at all.
 
@Chippies Not true at all. (PS, I'm a mobile developer)
 
Ideally there would be a shared market of games, and you could use any android console to access it.
 
Okay, I'm gonna leave this conversation, because I don't have enough android knowledge
 
@DwarfSlice Exclusivity is always bad, for anything.
 
@DwarfSlice Half-life 3: Steambox exclusive
 
7:26 PM
@Brian if the hardware is the same, it should run
 
Yes. But it rarely is...
 
@Chippies But the hardware is not the same.
 
@Chippies Ouya not only has it's own hardware, but runs its own operating system. Android isn't just one OS, it comes in many different flavors.
 
Ever
And the software is also never quite the same
 
@Brian is Ouya doing well?
do you know ANYONE who owns Ouya and loves it?
 
7:27 PM
@Unionhawk I assure you, my Galaxy Nexus has the exact same hardware as my other Galaxy Nexus!
 
@Chippies Nope. Even mine isn't, it lost its HDMI slot in my TV to the Wii U
 
@Brian and that's the problem
 
@Chippies A problem, yes, but off topic
 
until there's an android console that can compete with the "big boys", there won't be "console" game market on android
and by compete I mean, stand out from the other android crap
 
@Chippies pretty much only backers got it, and kids got it from confused parents
 
7:29 PM
right now there's a ton of mediocre junk
if every junk had it's own exclusives, you'd have to have every junk console to play them
 
@Chippies This is true for all systems
 
@Chippies Ouya is like the Desura of consoles, except that it costs $100 up-front
 
@Batophobia but at least for the "big" console there's 3 major companies that make them - sony, microsoft and nintendo
for android? I doubt there's even a list that can fit all the "consoles"
 
Is it a problem though? At the end of the day? I don't see much of a point in an android console, personally. An android-related multimedia box that happened to play games, sure, I could go for that. But... I don't know.
 
@Batophobia hardly, the "big boys" all have competent libraries and developers backing them. android consoles have diddly
 
7:31 PM
I don't see why games can't be optimized for controllers and still run on vanilla android
 
Meh, everyone knows the real winner is the printer that plays doom
2
 
@Unionhawk In Ouya's case, it only runs on Android for ease-of-access. Android gave the creators something to start with, and made it easier for game developers to make games for it. You could easily take Android out of the equation for this discussion.
 
@Brian lol
Desura is dead as far as I'm concerned.
 
@DwarfSlice Why is that?
 
It's just gone to shit.
The customer/dev service is nonexistent.
The client is buggy garbage
I was hoping Linden Lab might do something with it, but nothing has improved.
 
7:35 PM
Ah, I generally just use it to get Steam keys for greenlit games that I got from bundles.
@Chippies They can if you develop them that way.
 
The best thing about Desura is the presentation of their store pages.
My favourite of all the game stores.
But everything else about Desura is pretty balls
 
@Brian it was a rhetorical question. What I mean is, I don't think there's a need for an android console and so far, none of them have been any good anyway
 
You know a gamestore fucked up if @DwarfSlice doesn't like it anymore.
 
if it runs on vanilla android, anyone with an android device with sufficient hardware could run it, even if they can't play it without a controller
 
@Chippies Ouya would be good if it had better hardware and more games.
 
7:38 PM
@Brian hardware is irrelevant.
 
@Brian considering the rate at which android device hardware is progressing, an android console wouldn't last long
it's like the whole ps4/xbone vs PC thing again
 
Bridge! I have to wear glasses again!
 
@Rapitor It's biggest flaw is how slow it is, how is hardware irrelevant. I was responding to "none of them have been any good anyway".
 
back in the day, consoles used to have the newest tech, now the "next gen" is few years behind the current gen tech
 
Yosemite is released today. \o/ I can finally use iCloud normally.
 
user15026
7:39 PM
@Fluttershy Is this a yay thing? Or a oh no badness thing?
 
@JasonBerkan Uhg now I'll have to update again.
 
@Brian Typing in a password and watching progress bars is tough work.
 
@AshleyNunn I am not sure yet! It'll depend on two things. 1) how much they improve my vision, and b) how amazing I look in them.
 
user15026
@Fluttershy Well, number 2 is going to work out because they've got an excellent cute face to be put upon
 
@Brian as long as it has good games the hardware doesn't matter.
 
7:41 PM
23 minutes to lvl 1000 treebeast, I like it.
 
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shanodinToday, I flagged two different comments on two different questions because users had left their email addresses in them. (This and this question) So far as I am concerned, leaving your email address out in the open like that is just an invitation for spammers, so I flagged the comments for delet...

 
@JasonBerkan Haha :) It's my work computer that's a Mac. It normally makes me restart, and then screws up a few random things that I don't notice until I need them for something urgent and work-related.
 
@AshleyNunn Thanks! :3 I'm hoping this is correct!
 
@Arperum I'm around 24 hours +/- a few hours.
 
@JasonBerkan You can see the exact time in the stats page.
 
7:47 PM
@Arperum It depends on how often I remember to open the webpage and play.
If I actually sat down and played, I wonder how fast I would get to 1000 Treebeast.
 
I'm not exactly the one for cute things.... but this kid is pretty darn cute
 
@JasonBerkan All I had to do was level up heroes a couple times.
 
@Arperum That would be true, given that 23 minutes is a short time. How many Hero Souls do you have?
 
I must be playing this game wrong.
I have 2 hero souls and I will get 2 for ascending.
 
@DwarfSlice That's it?
 
7:52 PM
Yeah.
 
@JasonBerkan I have 340 stored. And I have +297% dps/gold when idle.
 
And this is like my fourth or fifth ascension.
 
@DwarfSlice What level are you at?
 
@SaintWacko 108 now, but I ascended again yesterday or the day before.
 
I've got 22 after 4 ascensions
 
7:52 PM
@DwarfSlice Level up completely worthless heroes for extra levels before you ascend, every total 2k hero levels nets you another soul.
 
I spent a bunch.
 
@DwarfSlice Are you spending the Hero Souls you get?
 
@JasonBerkan Yes. Should I not be?
 
@DwarfSlice Ah, you're ascending too early
 
@SaintWacko My highest zone is 140
 
7:53 PM
My first ascension was at 150
 
@DwarfSlice Save them up for now. They give some serious damage bonus.
 
@DwarfSlice Early on, I think they provide more bonus when left as DPS than powering ancients.
 
This game sucks
 
I have 35 from two ascensions.
 
@DwarfSlice I'd save up until you get to 45
Then level up Vaagur
 
7:54 PM
I've spent 8 on Vaagur.
 
I got a bunch and then spent 45 on Vaagur
Took me down to 7 souls
 
I have a level 1 Khrysos, Level 3 Mammon, Level 4 Siyalatas
That's it
 
Onlyspend ~half of the ones you get from your latest ascension, and store the rest.
 
Maxed Vaagur is so worth it, though
 
That way you keep getting more, and thus your dps goes up. and you can spend some on stuff every ascension.
 
7:56 PM
What does Vaagur do?
Also I don't have him available.
 
@SaintWacko I still need to find that one.
 
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@DwarfSlice Reduces the cooldown timer on your abilities.
The goal is to get to a point where you can increase your DPS by 10% via a boosted Dark Ritual every 30 minutes (or something like that).
 
Yep
 
7:58 PM
Space minecraft
again
 
Also being able to do the damage boosting combo every 15 minutes is nice
 
@JasonBerkan It's supposed to be an idle game.
 
@DwarfSlice Pressing a few keys every 30 minutes is pretty idle.
 
So, it's 4pm now, and I've spent most of the last 3 hours working with the coworker I mentioned earlier to fix the issues between dev, uat, and prod.
 
@Powerlord Success?
 
8:03 PM
@Powerlord you deserve a beer
 
@Brian ...we're not done yet, said coworker had a meeting.
 
1 min ago, by Rapitor
@Powerlord you deserve a beer
 
I WENT TO A POWER PLANT TODAY
IT WAS NEAT
 
@OrigamiRobot Nuclear?
 
NO, COAL-FIRED
I HAVE BEEN TO A NUCLEAR PLANT BEFORE
 
8:05 PM
@OrigamiRobot Donuts?
 
Most of the changes don't matter. I can't seem to convince him that changing the order of the lines around in the constructor don't matter... the Java side only cares about the order the variables are declared in because that's the order the readSQL and writeSQL methods need.
 
TBH, COAL-FIRED IS MORE IMPRESSIVE TO LOOK AT
 
@Unionhawk Bat-turbine
(c) Wayne Industries
 
@Unionhawk I CAN'T SEE IT FROM WORK
 
8:08 PM
It's a really cool and neat and clever idea that makes me glad that I'm going into engineering but it's also intimidating
@OrigamiRobot tl;dw: it's an ultralight wind turbine that is filled with helium and sent to really high altitudes, transmitting power to the ground via cables.
 
OH THAT'S NEAT
 
And it's called the Altaeros BAT
 
REMINDS ME OF WAVE POWER STUFF
WAVE POWER IS SUPER COOL
 
THAT THING LOOKS SILLY
 
8:11 PM
yeah it looks kind of like a stubby sky whale
 
I remember them saying it could have applications in remote areas and in disaster relief efforts and whatnot.
 
@DwarfSlice Straight out of Hitchhiker's Guide
 
I ASSUME THE POINT IS TO UTILIZE JET STREAMS AND STUFF?
 
@Batophobia Hi ground!
2
> The Altaeros Buoyant Airborne Turbine (BAT) leverages proven aerospace technology to lift a wind turbine into the strong, consistent winds beyond the reach of traditional towers.
Yeah.
 
awww
I missed Apple's event and can't do live mockumentary
 
8:17 PM
FIRST NO QUORA DIGEST DIGEST AND NOW THIS?
 
@Unionhawk I HAD ERRANDS. ERRANDS
 
UGH
WHY DID @UNI CHANGE AGAIN
 
DO YOU THINK I WOULD RATHER DO ERRANDS THAN MOCK APPLE
 
MAKE UP YOUR MIND!
 
9 hours ago, by Unionhawk
@Wipqozn It's a terrible one, but I'm tired, so I'm rolling with it today.
 
8:19 PM
WHY ARE WE YELLING
 
I COULD REALLY USE SOME ICE CREAM ABOUT NOW.
 
BECAUSE I HAVEN'T STOPPED USING AUTOCAD FOR THE DAY
 
8 min to get to and beat level 200 :D
 
7 hours ago, by Unionhawk
<- please refer to avatar for current state of @Uni
 
8:20 PM
@OrigamiRobot WELL... I'M PRETENDING TO USE COBOL
 
inb4 @Powerlord commenting the video is old
 
This concept art...
 
@badp ...VIDEO?
So, PayDay: The Heist is free on Steam today
 
@Brian link
not the character, but link to article
 
Hmm, I may need to stand up an MvM server so I can sniff its datamap stuff
To find out what icons and things the MvM bomb uses
Also, Valve made THE MOST IMPORTANT CHANGE EVER yesterday. They corrected the spelling of Halloween in one of the TF2 netprops
It's no longer HalloweeenBombHeadUpgrade!
 
multisim no
dammit
 
So...where can I get one of those motorcycles irl?
 
@Unionhawk uh oh, what are you doing?
 
8:34 PM
@OrigamiRobot It just crashed and I didn't save. It's not complicated things theoretically.
 
Oh, so you were just being irresponsible?
 
Yep
 
Well, what are you trying to do?
 
WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH CARS
 
I ask more because I want to feel smart by knowing what you're talking about, not because I want to help.
 
8:37 PM
@SaintWacko You sure you wanna slow down the Honor Harrington run? There's probably at least another dozen books for you to churn through.
 
@badp more importantly - why do you play video games in a tiny window?
 
@Frank And how long has it taken me to get through the first 4?
 
Thank god work is over today. I think I need a drink.
3
 
@SaintWacko You tell me.
 
@MBraedley I just want you to know, I hate you the most.
 
8:38 PM
@James Why is that?
Because your work isn't over?
 
@MBraedley Maybe :(
 
@Chippies sit awareness / maximum FPS / etc.
 
I have nothing to do for the rest of the day, but I haven't left yet.
I should
 
@badp sit awareness?
 
watching over you guys
 
8:40 PM
do you lose awareness of the fact that you're sitting when playing in fullscreen?
immersion pls
 
@badp eyes his other monitor
 
I don't have one
also fullscreen and multiple monitors sucks
 
@badp you're an addict
I guess being addicted to us is not the worst kind of addiction...
 
Fake Fullscreen and multiple monitors really suck.
 
@badp When have we been anything less than perfe... Oh. Good choice.
 
8:42 PM
@James Your day probably didn't start out as poorly as mine did, though.
 
@Powerlord What? Real fullscreen and multiple monitors is the worst. You can't click outside the window, and if somehow you manage to, then you have to wait for Windows to take over the game
and that's worse than the worst
 
@MBraedley Did you wake up drenched in dog urine?
 
I'm pretty sure if @badp leaves the room for more than 2 minutes things start exploding.
4
 
@MBraedley Oh I assure you that my last 3 weeks have been shitty
 
@Brian ewwwww
 
8:46 PM
Do you like the art style of At The Gates?
 
@badp If you have fake fullscreen with multiple video cards with games set to use all cards, Bad Things happen.
 
@Powerlord wat
I need help
What's the nationality of Not Wipqozn?
Oh: brilliant
 
@badp Yes, performance degrades rapidly if you do this.
There was a recent answer on Arqade about it and it reflects my experience using fake fullscreen on a machine with an SLI setup.
 
 
(either that or it was an old question bumped by community)
 
8:50 PM
@Powerlord While I do have two GPUs, technically, one of them is the Intel HD 5000 (or something) which I've disabled in the BIOS.
 
@badp Is that in-game?
 
@RPiAwesomeness yes
 
@badp ah
 
Man, Xenonauts is so much fun
What's Fake Fullscreen?
Windowed Borderless?
 
All the questions
 
8:54 PM
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@RPiAwesomeness Eating pancakes out of a bag?
 
@Brian Wut?
 
D:
Day I learned !ErrorHasOccured() ??!??! HandleError(); is valid C/C++ code
 
??!??!
 

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