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3:00 PM
soon we'll expand the @AshleyNunn stalking project worldwide
 
Peer-to-peer, whether you like it or not.
 
@FEichinger What the fuck
I wish they'd crumble like Zynga
 
> COO Peter Moore lays out EA's priorities, says "We don't deliver offline experiences anymore"
funny that, you know what other game developer said that before?
 
More concerned with the free to play
 
3:02 PM
@BenBrocka It's beautiful, isn't it? One week, they're trying to convince everyone that they're totally not evil and can really do some good for once ... Next week they're back to kicking puppets and burning down orphanages.
 
(Hint: Hitler Valve.)
 
@badp =[
 
"The necromorphs are eating your face! Ask for help on Facebook(TM)?"
 
@BenBrocka hey, that's squarely the direction Valve is going towards too
 
@badp I hate them for that too
 
3:02 PM
Valve is annoying
 
except a couple years ago
 
Valve's basically dead to me except for Steam
 
and not completely - see Portal 2
 
Stuff like Portal 2 I don't mind. Stuff like DOTA2 and TF2 basically being the only things they ever work on I do mind
It's their Squeenix moment
 
You do realize that when half life 3 hits people are going to play it, realize that after the game's done nothing else in life matters anymore, and will start to off themselves so they can die with the memories still fresh, right?
 
3:05 PM
 
@BenBrocka Meh. They're still bringing ~ a game a year, sometimes F2P. Dota2 merely took up this year's spot.
 
@Shiester yes, and?
 
That's why Gabe can't release it.
 
Their latest releases were Portal 2, DOTA2 and...uh...
 
@Shiester Worth it
 
3:06 PM
Oh, right, CS but I never cared about that either
 
@BenBrocka CS:GO
 
@BenBrocka Valve has never been the prolific kind of company
 
@badp You're a prolific kind of company!
 
@BenBrocka Neither did I. Point is: I'm gonna wait for their next release before passing judgement. Their games are of nice quality and their policies are usually not all that horrible.
 
Me?
Prolific?
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3:07 PM
EA on the other hand manages to pull bullshit every other week.
 
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I miss when the starred list was all about @AshleyNunn being a cannibal.
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In fact, they pull bullshit right when people start to think they might not be all that bad after all.
@badp Flagged.
 
@FEichinger They've shown a clear focus on F2P and multiplayer crap. So until they release another half life or Portal I basically don't give a fuck
 
3:07 PM
@Wipqozn good times go by so fast :(
 
@FEichinger don't you even start bashing on ea. they try so hard to deliver wonderful games to us and look at all the DLC they give us? what other company goes that extra mile to create all this bonus content for its playerbase and all they want in return is what? some green paper with silly faces printed on them? HOW DARE YOU SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT THEM.
 
@BenBrocka "clear focus"? Meh. Two releases isn't exactly a clear focus. I'm not saying they have shown us anything but MP & F2P, but I'm not gonna say that that's their future direction.
 
@FEichinger Honestly the main differences between the two are EA does mobile development, pumps out way more games (publisher not developer, after all) and they talk to the public a LOT more
 
@badp BR? hue.
 
@Shiester You mean the 5 billion dollars you have to pay to get everything possible in the sims? And then the game stops properly supporting the overload on items?
 
3:09 PM
@BenBrocka They did land a pretty major Portal 2 update with the workshop puzzle maker, but not much else.
 
@FEichinger They even put hats in Portal 2 and the trading card stuff seems to show a pretty clear indicator of their focus; value-ad
 
@Shiester IT, so I probably should've gone afsdfdsfasdfsdfasdfdsafasdfsdfsadfdsafsdfsdfsfasfadsfsdaf
 
Why make games when people spend hundreds of thousands on digital hats and cards?
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@Arperum 5 Billion is only a drop in the bucket compared to infinite fun.
 
3:10 PM
@BenBrocka I dunno, I very much appreciate that TF2 is getting constant updates - lest the game dies in a fireball and Valve stops printing money
like it or not, TF2, Dota and Steam are paying for the bills there
 
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Q: Getting specific class item drops

DCA-After accuiring my third 'Dead Ringer' in as many hours while playing tf2, I was wondering, does the item dropped correlate with: Absolutely nothing (completely random) The class you have been using The classes you have been most often killing/interacting with If so this can be used easily t...

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Q: What is a Hydra/Swarm Host/Viper build order?

jacen.garrissMy favorites units in hots is the swarm host, hydra, and viper together. I have a pretty decent over-view strategy, but I don't have a build order. What is a build order to do this?

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Q: Unable to finish Lost of the Ages

Bruno AugustoWhile following a quest, I ended in Mzulft where I found the Dwarven Storageroom. Playing as a garbage collector, I cleaned it all, including the Glowing Crystal Shard. Several hours later, after complete the Dawnguard Questline by killing Lord Harkon, I decided to do the sidequests and then I r...

 
@Shiester But it stops being fun because the game crashes because of too much items... (Never played the sims, but I heard this is the case)
 
@badp reskins and community shovelware aren't great updates.
 
@badp I know they are. I just wish they weren't
 
@Shiester the latest rebalance update was neither
 
3:11 PM
A lot of us love Valve because of Half Life; the solid gameplay, smooth storytelling, amazing stuff you don't see anywhere else
 
@badp I wouldn't know. I actually don't play videogames, I just hate them.
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and, since it buffed the quickfix to its current levels, it is OFFICIALLY THE BEST TF2 UPDATE UNTIL THE NEXT
unless the next nerfs the quickfix
 
TF2 is amazing for what it is, but to me it's just another online shooty game that's marginally more interesting than the other online shooty games
 
anyway, im out. later all.
 
@BenBrocka I find it mindblowing that as a game it has about 140 actually unique weapons
(without counting reskins)
 
3:13 PM
Considering the years of development and strong focus on the game it's not that surprising. There are just few other games with quite that business model
LoL seems to do similar but with heros not guns
 
Make your own guns
Also loadout is awesome
 
@BenBrocka how many guns does CoD: Bloops have after year after year of releasing basically the same thing?
Their business model is a $60/y subscription
 
Bloops is a different business model
 
Bloops?
 
I'm not sure they even have to change anything for people to keep buying
 
3:15 PM
@BenBrocka just add and remove dogs on a cycle
 
Next game has hamsters, calling it
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Why is everyone focusing on the dog anyway?
 
bomb-seeking hamsters. Press L to go into hamster mode
 
@GnomeSlice Only unique thing or something?
 
@GnomeSlice because the devs dedicated half of their presentation to it while presenting the game?
 
3:16 PM
@BenBrocka That's a great argument for that meta discussion about dupes across a series. CoD is basically the same game every year for, what, five years now?
 
@badp didn't seem like half to me
 
I didn't measure with a stopwatch
 
I wouldn't call CoD games the same.
 
definitely a major selling point
 
They seem more like expansions.
Like more levels and shit
 
3:17 PM
They've already done the "on a boat" expansion
 
@GnomeSlice So basically the same. Or at the very least massively overpriced.
 
@GnomeSlice And they're worth 60$ plus DLC and "premium"?
 
@FEichinger "premium"?
 
@GnomeSlice And the Fish AI. It's just that it was a very unusual thing to focus on during a game console's reveal
 
@BenBrocka What is this fish AI thing?
 
3:18 PM
Premium, because not paying money is for n00biskuts
 
Also $60 is where most AAA games start at anyway
 
@SaintWacko They have fish that swim away when you're near them! You know, like Mario 64
 
@BenBrocka Oh, right, that
 
@GnomeSlice You just said it's an expansion. Why do they pretend it's a new game, then?
Content-wise it's crap.
And that's the point I made.
 
@FEichinger Have you played all of them?
 
3:20 PM
@FEichinger I guess. But the problem with that is whether the games are different enough to warrant a different answer is basically the question itself. Meta decisions shouldn't require so much specific knowledge of the game/subject matter IMO
 
@BenBrocka How is that even usefull in a shooter?
 
Oh, are we talking about a question here?
 
@BenBrocka I agree. It's just a hilarious point to add. CoD tends to be the flagship for "it's the same shit every year", for good reason.
 
@Arperum COD demos are about pretty, not useful
the only interesting thing I've heard about BF4/CODwhatever is the horrifically named but fun sounding "levelution" mode in BF4 with destructible environments (but we've all heard that before)
 
@Arperum It's shiny. Shiny gets money.
 
3:22 PM
Granted a large chunk of my desire for Killzone shadowfall is "It's pretty and has non-brown colors" so pretty can be important
 
@FEichinger Next thing is achievements for collecting the fish or something. So you can slap a enemy with a dead fish.
 
I bet Lost Planet 3 is going to be one of the best looking games ever made when it launches.
Also FUEL has the best weather effects I've seen in a game.
 
user43095
Morning.
 
Evening.
 
Lost Planet seemed interesting but I never got it
 
3:25 PM
@BenBrocka agh
 
@JeffreyLin Evening (almost)
 
It got mixed reviews, but I loved it.
 
@JeffreyLin Evening.
 
yeah I noticed the mixed reviews when googling
 
user43095
@KevinvanderVelden Anyone play on the server anymore?
 
3:26 PM
A lot of the stuff revolves around taking control away from the player though, which put off a lot of people.
 
@JeffreyLin me and gnovice mostly
 
Like nearby explosions make you stagger, for example.
Playing as the giant akrid in multiplayer is amazing
 
user43095
@KevinvanderVelden I changed my email and Mojang doesn't seem to like communicating with me.
 
@GnomeSlice Ah, hm, that's always a mixed bag. Neat, realistic, but takes away the feeling of precise control
 
@JeffreyLin huh, still got access to the old email?
 
3:27 PM
@BenBrocka Yeah, one of the things I didn't like much about it was that even when you were IN control, you couldn't move very precisely. The grappling hook is hella fun though.
also there are just so much shit to use
especially in LP2
mildly NSFW since that guy is using the underboob female skin
and the... the gstring
ಠ_ಠ
 
@GnomeSlice That outfit does not seem conducive to combat on a frozen planet
 
@BenBrocka The planet is not frozen in LP2
 
Banana hammock isaac skin for Dead Space 3
@GnomeSlice WHAT THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT
 
That's the sand raider female skin I think
@BenBrocka Did you play the first one?
 
No but it looked cool and icy
 
3:30 PM
The terraforming process started at the end of game 1
it was like
 
user43095
@KevinvanderVelden yeah, but the sending email thingy says I've already sent an email to me in the past two hours. Hit it a couple of times, doesn't seem to do anything
 
the whole conflict
The story was kind of a mess (and it wa sutterly incomprehensible in LP2), but in the first one the story revolved around this plan to terraform the planet
 
user43095
Do you people have a ಠ_ಠ key on your keyboards?
 
Yeah the big monsters looked cool too
..shouldn't terraforming have killed everything?
 
3:32 PM
@JeffreyLin double check everything and if that's incorrect try contacting one of these help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/1175661
 
@GnomeSlice ಠ_ಠ
I have a button in chat for it ...
 
But I'm gonna go home now, cya guys :)
 
@FEichinger whoa, is this a thing
also
I'm going to suggest a ಠ_ಠ button on MSO
 
@GnomeSlice It's a userscript I wrote a while back ... I just haven't gotten around to fixing the bugs with it.
 
3:43 PM
@BenBrocka Yeah that's what they said was going to happen in the first one, the evil guys wanted to terraform it and kill everything.
Something else happened, and I forget what it was exactly
The story was kind of messy
It was downright unfathomable in LP2 though
I have no idea what that game was about
@BenBrocka Anyway, if you see it for cheap, I recommend it.
I liked both of them a lot
 
Revert vandalism edit...hit TWO captchas. Thanks, Wikia
 
Not that my opinion matters around here.
 
Oh, three
 
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Q: ಠ_ಠ button for chat

GnomeSliceI think this would be really useful. There's a Chrome plugin that provides some great functionality, but sometimes you just need to break out a disapproving look immediately, and I think SE chat needs to support this.

 
@GnomeSlice Did you seriously just copy my button over? :P
 
3:55 PM
@FEichinger Mayyyybe.
How could you tell?
 
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Q: Swarm Host/Hydra/Viper vs. Siege Tank/Banshee/Viking

jacen.garrissWhen I play Zerg and use a Swarm Host/Hydra/Viper build I always lose to SiegeTank/Banshee/Viking. The Terran players uses his Vikings to kill my overseers before my hydra can get in position. Then he uses cloaked banshees to kill hydra and swarm host in conjunction with scanners. His siege ta...

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Q: Do neutral creeps behave differently at different times of day?

UllallullooToday I heard someone talking about creeps' aggro in the day and night, implying that it changes. I've never heard of this before. What's different about how neutrals react in the day and night? Does it change based on the creep?

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Q: What is the quickest way to kill Camel Zombies?

bpcooksonThroughout the Egypt location, there are often zombies that come in sets of 3: Assuming no other zombies are a concern and no plant food is used, what plant or plant combination will defeat them the quickest?

 
Hover style.
 
@FEichinger Yeeeeeeah you got me
 
Also: I had to resize the line-height on the button for it to work.
Else it would be taller than "upload..."
 
I just photoshopped it over
 
3:57 PM
If I ever get around to debugging my script, I'll throw you a link.
 
But right now it's only reliably usable if you know how to work around the bugs.
 
ಠ_ಠ​​​​​​​​​​​​ — BoltClock's a Unicorn 31 secs ago
My MSO rep is so low.
Mostly because all my posts are dumb.
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Q: Forgetful Chat Site Directory

GnomeSliceI've just noticed that the drop down menu in a chat profile to change the profile's 'main site' is a little broken, it seems. I'm using Chrome, can anyone reproduce this?

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Q: Option to Search Entire Chatroom History by Stars

GnomeSliceThis probably isn't a terrifically useful feature to request, but I think it would be nice to be able to look at all of the starred messages in a particular chatroom, and sort the results by number of stars. Semi-Relevant Discussion

 
@GnomeSlice Outed as a sock, eh? :P
 
@FEichinger eep
Why are people downvoting this
are they dumb or what
 
4:09 PM
@GnomeSlice You really can't work it out?
 
@RonanForman How could this feature impact anyone negatively
 
@GnomeSlice Everyone would ಠ_ಠ​​​​​​​​​​​​ all the time.
 
@GnomeSlice Developer time.
 
I love how you two had completely different responses.
@GraceNote But they'd get paid for it.
@RonanForman Is that a problem?
 
@GnomeSlice Yes.
 
4:10 PM
 
@GnomeSlice I'm sure SE loves paying people to do pointless crap.
 
@GnomeSlice ...we have more important things to spend time on. And money on, for that matter.
 
pixelllsssss
 
@GnomeSlice "Every feature starts at -100 points." You have to prove that it is worth the time to develop.
 
@JasonBerkan Ooh, the "" implies that's a quote, who from?
 
4:13 PM
@RonanForman Raymond Chen (from Microsoft) uses it a lot. It's from this article: blogs.msdn.com/b/ericgu/archive/2004/01/12/57985.aspx
 
@RonanForman If Google does, why wouldn't SE
 
@3ventic Google can afford it.
 
@RonanForman Even if they can afford it, make work kinda sucks.
 
Google's ridiculous ideas are usually at least marginally useful
 
@BenBrocka you're marginally useful
=[
 
4:20 PM
Oh, hey. YoungGuilo got suspended for sockpuppeting, it seems.
And yep, Dragoness did, too. Figured that was what was happening.
 
...again?
Nice
 
Wow...
huh, but I don't see any -rep from vote reversal on his recent activity
 
I'm not too surprised, but I was kinda hoping he would've learned his lesson from the first time it happened.
 
@Sconibulus I'm not sure vote invalidation shows up on the profile for privacy reasons. I haven't handled such a case in a while
People on UX are so nice and civil <3
 
@BenBrocka Ahh, ok. I kinda figured it'd show up like the serial reversal did. (which I only know because of Young Guilo)
 
4:29 PM
Yeah serial reversals show up, I don't think invalidated votes do
Probably because the serial reversals are automatic and show up on non-frauds' profiles
 
@Mana Hej.
 
fair enough
 
@GnomeSlice hey dude.
can't stay long, but what's up?
 
Me neither. Just stuff
work
well lunch
well, work
 
cool. any luck with the icons?
 
4:32 PM
I think so
realized today a bunch of my script recordings are wrong... have to do another recording session to fix them
will have to be next week
gragargafgegtr
 
Script?
 
@BenBrocka narration
One of them is REALLY wrong
not sure what happened
The script I had in my storybord was "from any device"
And what he read was "with its adaptable software that is run from a USB key, portable hard disk, or blackberry"
I must have mixed it up with the old one
 
@GnomeSlice What's the difference?
 
@RonanForman The cilent signed off on the other one
client
Since it was in the storyboard
there's a couple places where I missed 'and' at the start of things
or 'while'
 
@GnomeSlice I was joking, implying that the two were similar, when in fact, they aren't!
 
4:36 PM
Oh.
Yeah.
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A: ಠ_ಠ button for chat

AsadHere's something that should work as a userscript in both GreaseMonkey (Firefox) and Chrome: var buttonsContainer = document.getElementById("chat-buttons"), newButton = document.createElement("button"); newButton.setAttribute("class", "button"); newButton.id = "disapproval-button"; newButto...

@FEichinger
 
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Q: What is the most effective way to use Plasma Cutter

BatophobiaI started playing Dead Space and like the "Cut off the Limbs" idea. I only have the Plasma Cutter and judging by this answer it is fairly important. While playing, I noticed I could change the orientation between vertical and horizontal (not sure if future weapons will have this as well). Whic...

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Q: How can I enable audio when window is out of focus

user606723Lately when playing Mass Effect, I often find myself attempting to multitask between playing the game and doing something else like chatting with a friend. When I alt tab over to my friend's window, the in-game audio stops. It would be useful if this audio would continue as I could listen to dia...

 
@Arperum thanks
 
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Q: ಠ_ಠ button for chat

GnomeSliceI think this would be really useful. There's a Chrome plugin that provides some great functionality, but sometimes you just need to break out a disapproving look immediately in another browser, and I think SE chat needs to support this. Can we have a ಠ_ಠ button please?

ಥ_ಥ
-8
 
Only -8
 
@3ventic iknorite
Maybe MSO holds a soft spot for @Gnome
 
4:41 PM
Huh. It really was okay there.
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Q: What was the reason to change the character names in the English version of Xenoblade Chronicles compared with the Japanese version?

bitmaskAs can be seen from the track listing of the original soundtrack (just serving as a nice overview) a lot of names are different in the Japanese and English version. For example, Aegir/Egil, Xanthe/Zanza, Fiorung/Fiora but also Shuruku/Shulk (massive spoilers). While I still get it with Fiorung (w...

@mana By merging those Counter-strike questions, are you shortcutting the discussion on meta about it with a mod nuke?
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@Sterno I am always surprised when they close a question.
 
@Sterno Yeah, there's actions going on there that really need some more discussion before we start doing any nuking.
 
Related to Xenoblade Chronicles: Friend of mine introduced me to that game, thought it was going to be a generic japanese rpg but holy god I am glad I was wrong.
 
In this case, I have to agree that the CS bomb time questions are dupe. They're asking the same thing and getting the same answer. Does it really make that big a difference that it's a different game from the same series, where the mechanics have barely changed since 1.6?
 
@Shiester Indeed. It's quite fun.
 
4:53 PM
Is there a way I can spoiler tag in chat? I want to ask a question but it's... uh, pretty spoileriffic.
 
@3ventic The problem is, we don't even dupe questions where the answers are the same. Different question, different answer. By tagging it with a different game name, that makes it a different question.
I'd be all for consolidating questions like that, but if we starting duping based on that fact, I start duping based off of same answer = same question.
 
I don't really understand how different tag makes it a different question. It makes it a question related to something else than the other question, but if the tags are even pointing that it's the same series of games where mechanics have barely changed at all, I can't see them as different questions.
 
@3ventic The original question was modified to shoehorn the dupe vote into it.
 
@Shiester Nope, sorry.
 
The tag has to be taken into account. Sometimes, that's the only way to differentiate between questions.
 
4:58 PM
Anyone here really knowledgeable about Xenoblade willing to answer a question in a private room then real quick?
 
@Shiester I've played it a bit. Not a ton, but some.
 
@fbueckert Have you finished it? don't want to spoil too much if you havent
 
@Shiester Not even maybe.
 
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