The Bridge

On an unrelated note ... The Defiance game forums are weird. There's people asking for "more cash shop items" and "DLC soon pls".

8:48 PM

What's wrong with asking for DLC?

Just noticed the last song on the new anamanaguchi album is titled "(T-T)b". Anamanaguchi is great

@OrigamiRobot Throwing more money at a bug-ridden and generally mediocre game they paid, on average, 50 bucks for?

@FEichinger Hey, all I know about it is this

is it bed time yet

user15026

@wipqozn I am having so much trouble with Luigis Mansion. :(

user15026

8:52 PM

@kalina if you want it to be. I don't see why not.

@kalina It's bed time any time you want it to be.

my boss disagrees

I just woke up from taking a nap, so I can confirm the accuracy of these statements.

Listen to @TimStone. He's blue now.

being blue makes me less likely to listen, you know that

8:54 PM

But this is @TimStone.

If you're not listening to @TimStone, you need to reevaluate your life.

I didn't realise stackapps mod was a real thing

It's a moderatorship so corrupt that they just give it to you, because any elections would just be rigged anyway.

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@TimStone oh, hey, you're blue

@AshleyNunn still?

user15026

Yes, still.

@BenBrocka StackApps mod is best mod, because people (or rather lack thereof)

9:01 PM

the election stats page is quite cool

look at me being awesome and having all of the notable badges:

@kalina Hmm, that reminds me that there are a number of updates that need to be made to it...Pardon me while I shake my fist at my extensive todo list.

@AshleyNunn The Spider?

SaintWacko

@StrixVaria Playing an Octopode Monk of Ashenzari

It's going quite well

user15026

@wipqozn yes. I hate it.

A: Moderator nomination possibly useful statistics

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Would probably be useful to expand the notable badges to include the new Review badges (Steward, Reviewer, Custodian)!

Newly Opened Proposals for Entertainment

9:11 PM

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Star Wars Universe

Proposed Q&A site for everyone who enjoys Star Wars Universe (movies, books, games, comics, etc.) and has questions or wants to discuss it

Currently in definition.

user15026

@NOPE covered by sf&f.

@kalina Ah, yeah. Will make a note.

> What kind of droid was C-3PO?

Not the kind you're looking for, obviously

@AshleyNunn What does SO do that Programming.SE does not do? And why doesnt GameDev get covered by either of those two?

9:27 PM

Overlap != Covered entirely

@James Programmers is just about common/best practices and work enviroments. It doesn't actually handle code questions really.

@Ullallulloo Ugh.. Theory.. Run Away!!! :D

I am now glad I never went there.. yet :)

GameDev is a different beast. GameDev covers a lot of UX as well, if I recall correctly.

That's a different site.

Game Development is it's own field of expertise, which justifies having its own site.

9:29 PM

@FEichinger There is some UI in there but not much. Its mostly rendering, lighting, sorting, sort of stuff.

@Wipqozn I have 2 die hard starwars friends.. I am pretty sure that is a topic that could fill an entire SE

@James Largely it's about getting the sites right so you have something between a bunch of dead sites and Yahoo! Answers.

@James Well, I dunno, I don't touch any of those. But I figure GameDev needs different topics than simply programming.

Rule of thumb: If all questions would undoubtedly be on-topic on another site, you probably don't need a new one.

@FEichinger Hehe, GameDev was the first site I signed up for :)

Exceptions exist - for instance if there's an entirely different target community (AU vs U&L), but they're rare.

@James You used to be blind? :P

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9:32 PM

@Ullallulloo Note that I have not signed up for GramarNazi.SE :P

@Ullallulloo thank you. Now I got edit-pinged just because you made a joke!

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@FEichinger A star for your troubles sir :)

My second highest site.

@Ullallulloo FRIGGIN NINJA'D YOU!

9:33 PM

@Ullallulloo Hence the comment :D

@FEichinger :(

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@james why are you asking me? Let me take a stab at it. SO - physical omg problem. Programmers - theoretical Stuff? (I use neither so you are getting a very handwavey answer) aka programmers doesn't do code. GameDev is different because game development is more than programmers and code bugs.

5 mins ago, by Ullallulloo

@James Programmers is just about common/best practices and work enviroments. It doesn't actually handle code questions really.

5 mins ago, by Ullallulloo

Also, just for the record: Programmers.SE is not Programming.SE - for that very reason.

@AshleyNunn Point being just because one can cover another it doesnt mean a site can not be more specialized

9:34 PM

We got this.

> If one site discusses merely a subset of another site, there are only few reasons for a separate site to be created. If all questions would be on topic on a single other site, a new site would just unnecessarily spread both users and information across the network.

user15026

Oh thank god, because I have no idea why I got pulled into this, because I know little to none about all of those

You can still flail your arms all hand-wavey like if you want, though.

@FEichinger So GameDev exists because it can have developer questions for code (SO) and User oriented (UX?)

user15026

@james I don't understand your point

9:35 PM

If another site gets created that's covered by another, it will used be phased out of the original.

23 mins ago, by Ashley Nunn

@NOPE covered by sf&f.

user15026

@timstone oh good I liked that part. handwavey

Does that clear up how you started the topic as opposed got dragged into it? :)

@James GameDev encompasses topics that would be borderline off-topic on SO.

See:

9:36 PM

If one can make a case where StarWars.SE inherently differs from SciFi.SE, sure, go for it. But I can't see any. to get back to the topic at hand

and

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@james ah, so you extrapolated, gave me no context and gave me a random example that doesn't match the case I presented.

Hey, wait a second! Why didnt you show up for the minecraft fun @AshleyNunn?? We waited !!

They took the later out of the former

user15026

@james sudden appearance of someone who would give me snuggles. Sorry. :(

Raven Dreamer

9:37 PM

Ah, I went above 1337 rep on stack overflow today.

@James You guys had Minecraft fun?

@AshleyNunn You said Nope, covered by SF&F.. How is that extrapolation and out of context? I ever responded to that exact message to start with. And to me GameDev is potentially covered by other sites is all.

@Ullallulloo Quite a bit

Need to upload the 3rd match today

@James NOPE is the name of the feed bot. Look carefully. ;)

user15026

@james my bad, I can't see reply links here

@FEichinger Oh, LOL! Sorry :)

user15026

9:39 PM

@james it's like game dev is centralizing the bits of SO and so on that game devs would use.

@AshleyNunn Haha, I did not know that was the name of the feedbot.. My bad ;)

@James :x

@Ullallulloo Next match day is the 25th man if you want to join in next time. I just pinged the people I knew liked to MC still (Ronan) and RedRiderX and Ashley happened to be in the channel and wanted in as well :)

@James k, cool

@AshleyNunn Right, GameDev exists because the full range of needs of game developers aren't met by a single other site on the network, and the topic has enough girth to exist independently.

9:41 PM

@TimStone Starwars fans are a world apart IMHO :)

user15026

@timstone Yay, I am glad I understand that.

@James As I said: If someone can make a good case where StarWars.SE would inherently differ from SciFi.SE, go for it!

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@james I really don't think it is big enough. And then every fandom would want their own site

But I just cannot for the life of me see it. It's like the very definition of what SciFi.SE is for.

@FEichinger I hope someone does.. wont be me though.. I dislike starwars.

9:42 PM

@FEichinger keep them all together so we can shut down one site and get rid of them all in one go

@kalina Oh hush you, keep your hate on the inside you flame monster.

Hehe.. Maybe I subconsicously want SW.SE to exist so when I hop to SciFi I dont have to deal with it :D

@James Then ... just ignore the tag? Maybe? I'm just saying.

@FEichinger I thought gaming had a long proud tradition of bashing on SF&F... I forget whom but it was a daily thing to find 'the most stupidest post' on there and post it here and bitch about it.

@James Well, it's better to dislike Star Wars than to like the prequels.

9:44 PM

that's actually "the stupidest post on SE", it just so happens that it's on SFF daily

@James It's common but not universal.

@Wipqozn :(

@Ullallulloo Oh my. Do you like the prequels?

@Wipqozn I am a just a fantasy fan instead of scifi really.. I went with Tolkien instead of Starwars :)

1 min ago, by Ullallulloo

@Wipqozn :(

@James That is acceptable.

9:45 PM

yes...

Though I do love me hybrids.. Steam punk is pretty kewl.. magic powered science, etc :)

I could never really get into Tolkeins writing. Although the worlds and characters he creates are amazing, his writing itself is really dry and, well, boring.

@James Yes, it is. I just like saying "hush" to @kalina. :P

I could read the Tolkein wiki all day long though.

@Ullallulloo You are dead to me. DEAD I SAY!

@FEichinger Ahh, Ill keep that in mind for the future :)

9:46 PM

It's a shame @GnomeSlice wasn't here, at least then you'd have someone to back you up in your incorrect enjoyability of the prequels.

1 min ago, by Ullallulloo

@Wipqozn :(

@Wipqozn I think that's a bit harsh. We just can't ever speak to him again.

@Wipqozn I have seen him posting, was he only banned from chat or is the 6mo ban done? (I actually thought @kalina was @GnomeSlice incognito for the longest time :))

@James you are now responsible for me deleting my account

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user15026

@jame site ban is over, chat ban still in effect

9:48 PM

goodbye cruel world

Site ban was only for 3 months, and was for a different reason than the chat ban.

@AshleyNunn Ah, Good to know

@kalina Yeh, yeh. You say that all the time. Do it already, for god's sake.

►

Oh man, I need to post that video when @GnomeSlice returns. It would be perfect. "He's back!", et cetera

@FEichinger If I did it right now, you'd feel bad

9:50 PM

@kalina No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't even care.

@kalina Only one way to find out.

user15026

@feichinger you would miss her

@AshleyNunn But I still have you to argue with. No need to worry.

@FEichinger Man, that's just rude! @kalina, you should delete your account just to spite him. That'll teach him!

9:52 PM

@Wipqozn I figure we just queue up 6mo worth of back log of pings for him :)

@James He still sees the pings.

bye then

Blog - Stack Exchange: Podcast #47 – Do You Even Twitter Bro?

and visits chat on occasion.

The Stack Exchange Blog

Alex Miller on May 14, 2013

We’re Back! It’s been a while since our last podcast (why you ask – listen to find out!) but we’re back now and “stronger” than ever. It’s Joel, David and Jay (plus producer Alex and Abby) coming to you from the brand new SE Podcast Studio (check out the picture below)

News of the day: we’re finally in our new office (and podcast studio). We’ve got hexagonal offices (and therefore crooked hallways), and a cool café area. AND HEATED TOILET SEATS. And a kitchen with a giant walk-in refrigerator, for our interns (which we don’t have). …

@kalina Who has the software to piece together the possible combinations of email address based on the tails of the dilj type letters? :)

.. I think its easier to get first answer on SO than it is to deal with a chat flag at times ..

9:57 PM

@kalina Bye ♥

can I revert my profile back now

Question: Does having a bunch of questions on here about your game a sign of your game being good or bad? Does it mean your game is so hard to follow that people need to find a community who may have picked up on the subtle hints? Or is it a sign of having an engaging/anticipated enough game to garner a community of 'informed' people?

@kalina No.

@kalina I already laughed, so sure.

If you do that, they won't delete your account.

9:59 PM

@Wipqozn If I deleted my account, you would be one place closer to the top of the rep list

I call that biased

@TimStone What is the reference?

@kalina I call it exactly as planned.

@James I saw people asking insanely trivial questions on here, so the amount of questions is no indicator of anything.

Just get all the users with higher rep than me to leave the site, and then I'll be king of Stack Exchange!

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TAKE THAT @BADP!

@Wipqozn Maybe you haven't been keeping up on current events

10:00 PM

@FEichinger Hmm.. good point... What if we just look at 10+ voted questions\answers and counted those so we assure a certain level of quality of question and answer?

@James I'm...not sure.

11 hours ago, by badp

We've already rigged the next elections. The winners are Gnomeslice, Retrosaur and Johann

11 hours ago, by badp

Those will join me to form the Four Horsemods of Apocalypse

11 hours ago, by badp

WE WILL SHOW YOU WHAT IT MEANS TO MESS WITH HORSES AND SUBSPECIES THEREOF

@badp I'd actually delete my account.

user15026

@badp that is horrifying

@badp No ronnie? :(

10:01 PM

Good lord.

@badp ROFL.. I would LOVE To see GnomeSlice embrace his broniness :)

user15026

@wipqozn I plan to start a revolution

@Ullallulloo I tried to get in touch with him but...

@Ullallulloo ronnie already is a mod. It's just a secret.

@Wipqozn you aren't alone in this

10:01 PM

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

That would be seriously "Die Happy" sort of an event @badp :)

ronnie is really @badp

I just got yelled at for taking pictures IN A FUCKING PARK

he just tricked you all

He's the only person I beat in the last election.

user15026

10:01 PM

@wipqozn he is too pro much to be visible

@spugsley I hope you punched a baby in the face in disgust

@spugsley By who?!?!

user15026

@spugsley for serious? People suck.

@spugsley They probably thought you were trying to kidnap the children playing nearby.

@James Ponies are not horses.

10:02 PM

@TimStone it's a fitness park. Not a children's playground

@OrigamiRobot security guard

@spugsley People are stupid. Haven't you learned this by now?

oh I fucking went and did it anyway

@James gaming.stackexchange.com/…

@spugsley Oh. Then you're a terrorist (and that's dumb).

@badp Neither are Bronies but I am not splitting horse hair.. I am just marveling at MLP Horsemen of the apocalypse :D

10:02 PM

@TimStone that's what he said lololol

@spugsley ... What did they even say?

@spugsley you can't take pictures of trains here without permissions

@OrigamiRobot he said no no no blah blah terrorism

...

Wait, seriously?

10:03 PM

yeah I'm not kidding

@spugsley Ah, I take it he was one of those security guards who lets his imaginary power go to his head.

@FEichinger Wow, less than a 6th of the site, that is kind of sad.

@spugsley I hope you screamed "BACK OFF OR I WILL BLOW YOU UP"

@James The idea of bringing havok among bronies through riding ponies is not after all a terrible one.

@kalina I said, well, I don't see any signs that say no cameras.

and went on with my business

10:03 PM

@spugsley Please say he meant Tourist with a bad accent....

I'll have to talk with the other horsemods.

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@spugsley you need to print that whole photographers rights thing I saw floating about an keep it with you. I will look it up for you if you want.

Cause honestly its not a hard leap with our education levels if someone got those two mixed up I would almost have to believe it :(

@AshleyNunn I will. I guess I need to carry that shit. I never thought I'd need it in a park

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@spugsley people are nuts. It's sad.

10:05 PM

@spugsley You should've just taken a photo of the security guard prancing victoriously backwards into the park after he escorted you in.

@James But tourists are just foreigners entering the country temporarily with weird luggage and electronic devices! Who would mix that up with terrorists, really?

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@feichinger which makes me never want to travel ever

@FEichinger Most of the tourists in the town I am from were from This country.. and were assholes..

@badp I just waited till he drove off and did it anyway. What is he going to do? It's a public park

@AshleyNunn I just don't like planes. Planes are weird. They, like, fly and stuff. That's weird!

10:07 PM

@badp They prance? :)

@James Wouldn't they?

@spugsley ...Huh. If you were wearing an Arqade mothership shirt, I will award you bonus points.

@badp thinks about it Ya know.. I do believe they would...

Next time though, you should hold up your hand and say "It's okay, I'm a Stack Exchange user."

@TimStone I am 99% sure they would say wall street is no where Near here!

10:15 PM

@James If I recall correctly, SE are just down the road from Wall Street.

@TimStone Chances that a random security guard will identify "Stack Exchange" as a dangerous sect of internet activists and cultists: 87%

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@TheStackExchangeBlog Joel Spolsky says "no tags in titles" "I see a tag in a title I delete it"

@badp might be higher because the chances that he suspects a girl that looks thirteen as a terrorist is about 98%

@AshleyNunn I am eating an entire honeydew.

gaming gets a lot of tag bashing in the podcast

10:19 PM

@spugsley Got a game yet? (And you do not have to wait for one to go on sale :P)

hey, my xbox controller question got mentioned on the podcast

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@origamirobot I am jealous of your melon

@James I don't knowwwwwwwwwwww so. many. things. I haven't been gaming and I don't even know whats outttt

I'm taking suggestions!

@spugsley Don't get the new Metro.. While I snagged it last night and have not played it yet. I think they say 6 hours to complete and Bleh

"We're going to use up all the letters!"

10:29 PM

Well. That was fun.

user15026

@fbueckert??

I had a very insistent salesman show up again to try to sell me on a central air unit.

I got a quote from his company a couple weeks ago, and it was very expensive.

user15026

People do that?

But now, he's back, and saying he can give me the same thing for less.

But I'm supposed to pay him in cash.

So alarm bells are ringing.

user15026

That doesn't sound shifty one bit...

user15026

10:31 PM

You said no, I assume?

I told him I'd do some more research, and call him back.

Problem is, I don't have enough information about his parent company to make sure he's legitimate.

user15026

No way to do some deep researchy stuff?

Not really; he took all the quote papers with him.

user15026

Yeah that's a little worrying

user15026

Like not leaving you any info?

A: Titles should be stand-alone summaries of questions *without* depending on tags

10:35 PM

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Now that I've listened to the Stack Overflow Podcast (#47), I understand the point of view you're trying to get across quite a bit more. I agree that the correct way to be handling this, rather specifically from an Arqade point of view (since that's where I spend most of my time and that's the si...

I have his cell phone number, and the unit he wants to install.

I'm pretty sure he's an axe murderer who is going to kill you in your sleep.

Americans have...

I don't know how to say it without getting banned

Americans sound really weird to me

I wanted to say annoying but it's too much of a generalisation

@kalina This is a sign it doesn't need to be said.

Like accents?

10:38 PM

one of the people on the podcast makes me feel like I'd rather have my nails pulled out with pliers

I can't even find the company that was on the letterhead of the quote.

I think I successfully managed to portray my feelings without resorting to insulting an entire population

I call that a small victory

user15026

@fbueckert that is kinda weird

@AshleyNunn And sets off red flags like there's no tomorrow.

user15026

Yeeeeep

user15026

10:41 PM

I would steer very clear.

@kalina What kind of accent does Jonathan Ross have?

I don't know, I would have to google

I find him annoying too though, from memory

he doesn't annunciate properly

He says his Rs like Ws

25:00 YES. THAT. EXACTLY.

@AshleyNunn Gonna have to, yeah. I'm very leery about his insistence on cash, too.

10:43 PM

I find that annoying and when people pronounce "th" as though it were an f.

@OrigamiRobot I only ever do that on purpose (ie: FANX)

wat

@badp you broke soundcloud gg

@kalina Ugh, drives me insane.

10:46 PM

@OrigamiRobot I only say fanx when pretending to be mostly harmless

it's usually accompanied with a ^_^ face

Q: Is there anyone who is willing to give up a runescape account to me? Or give me a decent money making guide that is not common?

-1

If anyone has some account that they don't want/need, I will be willing to take it. Or a money making guide that is not common.

runescape

@badp If this is a cult, I demand koolaid.

hey I have > 1k flags

@TimStone Will reps do?

LessPop_MoreFizz

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How to Grow Marijuana

Proposed Q&A site for medical marijuana patients, researchers, medical professionals and enthusiasts who are interested in growing their own cannabis flowers.

Currently in definition.

10:51 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz follows

I am an actual expert in that subject

YAY I'M USEFUL

@badp An acceptable substitution.

marijuana.stackexchange.com

@LessPop_MoreFizz Proposer only has an Area51 acct

Does the edit on that question not change the intent far too much?

10:52 PM

best SE

@fbueckert halves the intent

I wouldn't call it radical, I'd call it "an attempt to save the question"

@kalina Still subjective. What's, "not common" mean.

@kalina I do that, I get jumped on.

it's going to get murdered anyway

you can jump on me if you want ;) purr

just wear a suit

Q: Is it possible to remove sushi recipes?

@kalina That can't be taken out of context at all!

Grumpy Lazers

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I've made some new recipes with the same ingredients so now I want to remove the older and inferior recipes. Is this possible?

sushi-spinnery

because that wasn't my intention

why is it that when I'm having a conversation I get starred to the point where I own the star list, but when I star bait everybody goes O_O and doesn't star me

life isn't fair

10:55 PM

@kalina To be fair, I rarely star anything.

Unless I'm in a very crazy mood.

@fbueckert figures

Speaking of suits, I need a new one.

mmm suits