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2:00 PM
When does voting end? Never?
 
@OrigamiRobot 16th of March, at around 18:00 UTC
 
@YiJiang It still took me a minute to find that....
 
They should have been vague about the deadline, then waited for prohibiting ITG to get the lead, then say "yeah uh voting's over!"
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Someone who voted to keep ITG should down vote ban ITG so the down votes even out.
@StrixVaria If only I won the mod elections...
then that would have been reality
 
> Agreed, this would be too much work to just "test out" right now. If it totally doesn't work at all we can always revise policy and delete everything later (which is much easier). If the majority opinion is "delete 'em" we should know that now
If it's "too much work" to test out, it's too much work to fully implement.
 
2:13 PM
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Q: Where should I scan?

fredleyI've only once had stuff come up when scanning a solar system, and they were both on planets. Can stuff be elsewhere or are planets the only things worth scanning? If so it means that most systems can easily be covered in only a couple of scans.

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Q: What is the penalty % for damage when using the wrong weapon?

yx.The reload on a sniper rifle takes too long (longer than my charge cooldown), so times I stick with a fast reloading SMG against a big armored target such as a brute. How much penalty am I under if I attack a barrier with a sniper rifle or an armored target with a SMG?

 
The way I look at is that the new requirements will never be met by the vast majority of ITG, so even if we allow them, it will be like they were banned.
 
@Wipqozn Like I said, either one is better than what we have now.
But banning them would be way easier.
And also even better-er.
 
Yeah, the current rule is terrible.
"Questions without enough detail"
Yeah, that's a really good metric to go on.
I really like missing words.
I was going to remove "missing" from that sentence, as a joke, but the sentence would still make sense so I didn't think anyone would notice.
 
@Wipqozn That's still basically what the new criteria are.
 
@OrigamiRobot Yes, but they are more structured.
We no have something solid to say that "This question must be closed"
 
2:19 PM
What constitutes a good fit for "plot"
 
also, I need to get ready for school/.
You people are too distracting with your wonderfulness.
 
@Wipqozn Odds favor you being my creator, so you only have yourself to blame.
 
I can't find the ITG Meta question
 
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Q: What should be done with questions asking for game identification?

agent86Following a series of discussions carried out here on meta, we have attempted to address the current situation of "Identify This Game" questions on Gaming. The situation is complex, and both sides have put forth arguments as to why they should be permitted or prohibited. The time has come to ma...

 
@tiddy Which one?
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Q: What should be done with questions asking for game identification?

agent86Following a series of discussions carried out here on meta, we have attempted to address the current situation of "Identify This Game" questions on Gaming. The situation is complex, and both sides have put forth arguments as to why they should be permitted or prohibited. The time has come to ma...

@StrixVaria high-five
 
2:23 PM
@Fabian: 'Ello, what was the word you used the other day that "I'm becoming "something" ?"
 
Thatnks
 
@Gigili A butterfly?
 
K yeah I already voted. Thought so
 
@OrigamiRobot Something like that but it has something to do with forgetting things or getting old.
 
senile?
 
2:26 PM
Exactly, thank you.
 
@Gigili Hah, I was just making stuff up.
What use is this?
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Q: Last game made and sold for the Atari 2600

Eight Days of MalaiseWhat was the last game made and released on store shelves for the Atari 2600? Specifically, what was the last consumer available (not just for developers or bootleggers) game that you could legitimately buy before the 2600 was no longer developed for commercially?

 
@OrigamiRobot trivia at best
 
@TylerShads I hate trivia questions.
 
Isn't this question
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Q: 2nd Steam Account on the same Computer?

NeBWill Creating a second steam account work on the same computer? Will I be able to play TF2 with the already downloaded version as an F2P on the new account, or will I have to download a 2nd version of TF2 for the same computer? If so, I know my items would not be affected because of the cloud...

essentially a dupe of this one?
 
@Gigili Huh?
 
2:31 PM
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Q: Can two accounts play a game only bought on one account, on the same computer?

Mehgan I play Garry's Mod alot and I am over at a friends house who also enjoys games. I downloaded steam for her and I noticed that Garry's Mod is downloaded onto my harddrive. I legally own the game, it is legally on this computer, so why can she, on a different account, Not play it? Or can she? Is ...

 
@FallenAngelEyes At a glance, I would say yes.
But @Oak should update his answer to cover the case for TF2 being F2P.
 
@OrigamiRobot Then I guess you hate @Lazers and puppies too?
 
@TylerShads I do hate @Lazers, but puppies are delicious.
 
We have so many Steam account questions that are almost but not quite entirely unlike each other
 
@OrigamiRobot well ok then
 
2:35 PM
@TylerShads I assume you are talking about hushpuppies.
 
Never had one, actually, i keep hearing how good they are
 
@TylerShads Ask @spugsley how good they are.
 
Fried Dough?
 
@Fabian Problem solved, sorry.
 
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Q: Is there any granular way to change decisions made in ME1/ME2 to see different outcomes in ME3?

agent86In ME1 and ME2, I had to make decisions not really understanding their impact on the series as a whole. Now that I'm partway through ME3, I find myself curious as to what would have happened had I made a different choice previously. What if I'd done X? What if I'd let Y live/die? I can't just...

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Q: Skyrim follower in main quest

KevinDLI've just started The World-Eater's Eyrie in the main quest, but I saw that my companion (Aranea Ienith) didn't follow me. My question is: where did she go ? Did she go back to Azura's shrine or did she get stuck in Dragonsreach ? I'm just asking because I don't want to play the rest of the main...

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Q: Does the Geth Pulse Rifle retain its bonus shield damage effect?

yx.In ME2, the Geth Pulse Rifle can do especially well against shields shields as per the wiki: The Pulse Rifle rips through shields, so Disruptor Ammo is redundant against weaker enemies. Does it retain this effect in ME3? Should I be preferring this weapon over others when I'm expecting to...

 
2:44 PM
Haha @Sterno, I was in the middle of editing that post as well
 
It needed more help than I could give
 
@FallenAngelEyes I was considering editing it, but then you guys came along :P
my kid is going to have a pretty weird impression of many classic franchises.
for instance, he probably thinks that the AC series is about a guy who likes to nap in haystacks and climb tall buildings to find birds
and ME is about talking to blue aliens and flying a spaceship to avoid space squid
 
@agent86 Are you suggesting that's not what it's about?
 
basically, what these games are like without the swearing and violence
 
@OrigamiRobot the game tends to focus slightly more on stabbing.
 
2:49 PM
The hardest part of having children is going to be not swearing at video games.
 
@FallenAngelEyes indeed. he likes to watch these games, so I try to time my gaming juuuust right so that whenever he's awake I'm playing the calm parts
yesterday there was some unexpected violence, and suddenly it was bathtime :)
 
@agent numbers How old is he?
 
Is there a way to search for questions which have > 1 but < 5 close votes?
I feel like there are a bunch of dupes out there that are half-closed
 
@Sterno The 10k mod tools have that.
 
2:51 PM
@Sterno For 10k-ers
 
5k to go!
 
I can't wait for 20k so I can cast delete votes like a boss.
 
You can already cast delete votes, can't you?
 
I'm only allowed to cast delete votes on closed questions that are a certain age as it is.
 
The 5k privilege was underwhelming
 
2:52 PM
@StrixVaria I'm going to cast my delete votes like a disgruntled employee.
 
20kers can cast delete votes on more stuff.
 
Aaah I see
 
Like answers and uh...
Questions that aren't as old.
I'm only like 2400rep away.
If Diablo 3 comes out April 17th like it's rumored (not counting chickens; just a hypothetical) I'll definitely pass it with that burst.
 
It would be excellent if Diablo 3 comes out before my daughter is born, so that I can actually play it.
Get my taxes in, get rewarded with Diablo 3. Sounds good!
 
Oh yeah I really need to do those.
I keep not doing them because I'm not so keen on spending money to be allowed to pay the government more money.
Although I guess it's better than whatever the repercussions are for not doing them at all.
 
2:55 PM
@StrixVaria I wish employers weren't required to withhold, so that people could just get smacked upside the head with a huge tax bill once a year.
 
@Sterno I think it should be an option, but I would still have them withhold for me. I don't have the willpower to hold onto that much money myself.
 
I'd like it simply because I think government spending would drop sharply after people get up in arms when they have full visibility into just how much they're paying.
BUT, I should shut up, this is gaming, not politics. Lunch time!
 
@StrixVaria You do not want to go through auditing man, it's a PITA
 
@LessPopMoreFizz You got a problem, son?
 
@GnomeSlice Quite the opposite.
 
2:57 PM
Heh.
I just had to put that in my answer, I had hours of fun doing that.
I even managed to liquify one of the models, so that it apparently had no bones any more.
Unfortunately, they start to disappear after you get a certain number of them. =[
 
@StrixVaria I did mine the instant I got my W2s. Although I was 100% certain I would be getting a large amount back.
 
The only thing I ever did with Big Daddies in that game was run, terrified, away from their corpses because I didn't want to know if they could ever come back to life.
 
So, @agent86 how does it feel to be the top user on ?
 
@StrixVaria You missed half of the fun of the game. =[
 
Big Daddies in which one?
 
2:59 PM
@tiddy First game.
 
I still need to play Bioshock
it's another one of those games I own but haven't gotten around to yet
 
@FallenAngelEyes Oh, do play it.
 
I never finished Bioshock because the Big Daddies were just too much for me.
 
Ahh missed my chance at a bioshock question
 
@StrixVaria If you've still got it lying around, that answer I just linked to might help.
 
3:00 PM
The only game I consider myself an expert
 
@StrixVaria 4
 
@GnomeSlice I have horrid gaming ADD. I started Bioshock and played a bit, but then something else came out, no idea what it was at the time, and I haven't gotten back to it yet. :(
 
@tiddy What a coincidence. Me too.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz haha, I AM THE SNOOPY MASTER!
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@FallenAngelEyes heehee
 
3:01 PM
I made a video walkthrough for it about 5 years ago
 
Speaking of video walkthroughs, I need to make one for getting the health booster secret in Out there Somewhere
 
@GnomeSlice I do this... way way too often.
 
Gnome, you never used Trap Bolts with big daddies?
 
@tiddy Those weren't in the first game.
 
Yes they were
 
3:02 PM
@GnomeSlice I'm sure they were.
 
Well, the crossbow ones were.
Sorry, not trap rivets.
 
Yeah
 
@agent86 We need experts in everything! I'm actually glad we're getting more "casual" game Q&A's actually, considering how huge that market is.
 
Yeah, I forgot about trap bolts.
 
@FallenAngelEyes what's funny is I'm #1 in both Modern Warfare 3 and Snoopy Street Fair.
 
3:03 PM
I couldn't bring myself to finish Bioshock because the horrid Ayn Rand nonsense got to be too much for me.
 
Let me edit those in.
 
Do the Big Daddies get harder as the game progresses?
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Who?
 
I blame @ashley :P
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Doing my best to somewhat ignore that aspect...
 
3:03 PM
@StrixVaria Depends. They get different.
 
@StrixVaria I think there's a couple of BD variants, but they're the same difficulty throughout.
@tiddy is the bioshock expert.
 
The Rosie variants shoot rivet guns at you from afar.
@agent86 =[
 
They do get harder
 
You get elite variants of the two types later on as well.
 
3:05 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz Atlas Shrugged is still to date the only book I ever gave up on and Cliff's Notes'd.
 
@FallenAngelEyes Have you ever heard of Matt Ruff?
 
Once I realized there was no penalty for dying, they all became equally easy.
 
With the right setup you could take down a big daddy in about 5 seconds
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Doesn't ring a bell, nay
 
This chat won't embed a youtube vid right?
 
@tiddy Hah yes!
 
@tiddy Yes it will!
 
@tiddy A thumbnail, but not a video.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz "The year is 2023, and Ayn Rand has been resurrected and bottled in a hurricane lamp to serve as Joan's assistant" What?!?
 
3:06 PM
@tiddy I love doing that.
 
@tiddy it will embed it, although it'll just be the thumbnail and a link to the video
 
@FallenAngelEyes It's amazing and hilarious. The whole thing is essentially a giant parody/deconstruction of Atlas Shrugged.
 
actually trying to watch a one-boxed youtube vid would be an exercise in frustration
 
@tiddy Lol.
 
3:06 PM
That's my big daddy method
 
Have you not chosen a thumbnail?
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I shall immediately add this to my Goodreads to-read list, thank you sir
 
@FallenAngelEyes I based my book report on The Scarlet Letter on the movie version we watched in class the day before the paper was due.
 
@OrigamiRobot Having sex in a pile of grain would be so uncomfortable
 
@FallenAngelEyes That synopsis fails to mention that the pink and green submarines crew is comprised of the last 6 palestinian refugees and their israeli second cousin.
 
3:08 PM
@OrigamiRobot I couldn't read a single page of that thing.
 
@FallenAngelEyes I'll take your word for it...
 
@tiddy You should write an answer anyway.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Hahaha oh man
 
@StrixVaria I know you couldn't. I barely even watched the movie. So boring.
 
Nah, it's yours
 
3:08 PM
@tiddy Eeheehee, you killed him in seconds.
 
Also that every black person on earth had been wiped out by a plague that only affected them, and that in the intervening years, the hottest consumer product on the market has been the "electric negro", an automated servant. While availiable in a variety of skin tones, the color black vastly outsells all others.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz ...I...have no words...
 
Yeah, you can kill them like that in any level after Neptunes Bounty
I believe..
The 'hardest' big daddies in the game are in the second level
 
@tiddy Oh, no, I know. I love doing that.
 
@FallenAngelEyes So good.
 
3:11 PM
Whichever the place that has all the Rosies in was awesome, I went on a Daddy killing spree.
 
He just released this one, which I need to find the time to read:
 
Levels alternate between bouncers and rosies
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Wh... what.
@tiddy Right. It's mostly Rosie later on, though.
@Tiddy maybe you can help me with this question.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I think my neurons just warped reading the description of that
 
@FallenAngelEyes I like Matt Ruff a lot.
 
3:13 PM
ha
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz It's... hm.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz alot*
 
@FallenAngelEyes Yeah, that is... uh, well, it's not the weirdest alt. history I've read
But it does come close
 
@YiJiang It's not quite alt history.
Though it certainly incorporates an alt history.
 
Based on the description that is, I have not read the actual book
 
3:14 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz This also reminds of how I ran into the convo between Joker and EDI last night on the Normandy about how comedy's not always about being nice, it's sometimes about just airing the ugly things people think.
 
Ruff likes to do weird concept-y stuff though. One of his other novels is a love story between two people who both have multiple personalities.
 
Thought it was neat that they worked that in
 
@FallenAngelEyes Yeah, the Joker/EDI convos can be pretty enlightening.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Haha, I don't need a book for that one, I've known people like that.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz So, both personalities had to have feelings for both of the partner's personalities? ...How did that end up.
That's an interesting idea.
 
3:17 PM
@GnomeSlice Not all personalities are always interested in all the other person's personalities.
 
@FallenAngelEyes That's point I meant. For it to work, they had to... what I wrote.
 
@GnomeSlice It can work otherwise, though, is what I mean.
 
@LessPopMoreFizz why oh why couldn't you have linked to this author before the reddit book exchange?
 
@IanPugsley Never came up!
 
3:21 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz Oh my. More than two personalities is even more interesting...
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Speaking of EDI and Joker, I was surprised to find out that they weren't the only couple on the Normandy, heh.
 
@TimStone Yeah, the other one is... um... well... yeah.
They certainly both seem to share an interest in... um... calibrating things.
 
whhhyyyyy
I'm gonna have to take a vacation from chat until I'm midway through ME3, aren't I
 
Hahah, indeed.
 
@IanPugsley It might be wise.
 
3:24 PM
@IanPugsley I've been trying to avoid saying anything spoilerific...but you should probably not do anything else until you've finished the game. No eating, sleeping, chatting...
 
Speaking of which, now that I have finished the hurryup part of my morning, now it is time to wait. Which means time to go shoot some Geth.
 
@IanPugsley This is why I'm mostly only here around this time of day. I leave when it starts getting busy and just stay in SR.
 
I try to only spoil ancillary stuff.
 
@IanPugsley Bruce Willis Commander Shepard was dead the whole time.
 
@FallenAngelEyes have you not finished ME2 yet either?
 
3:26 PM
@IanPugsley I did, but only like... an hour before ME3 unlocked for me?
 
@FallenAngelEyes By the way, you may be interested to see specifics:
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A: Can you get reconstructive surgery in Mass Effect 3?

LessPop_MoreFizzIn order to get the Med Bay Surgery Intel Upgrade, you'll first need to complete the mission Priority:Citadel (the second one, which follows Tuchanka). After the events on the Citadel, when you return to the Normandy, your Ships doctor will have a request for you in the med bay - she wants you t...

 
@OrigamiRobot you joke, but one of my b/f's actually managed to remain unspoiled about Aerith in FF7 until like, 2010
 
for those of you following the Firaxis X-COM game, here's another preview
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Ah ha, thanks!
 
@FallenAngelEyes Yeah, the mission takes 30 seconds.
It's talk to doctor, go onto citadel, go to refugee camp, talk to Turian dude, charm/intimidate check, go back to doctor, collect medigel upgrade.
That said, which ships doctor did you grab?
 
3:28 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz (excluding elevators)
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Chakwas
 
@FallenAngelEyes Do me a favor, when you get to that, can you note the reward you get from Chakwas?
The official guide leads me to believe that there's a slight difference in reward between Chakwas and Michel for that one. Michel gives +Medi-Gel Capacity.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I have that mission now
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Sure, it varies?
 
But Chakwas, according to the guide gives 'upgraded medi-gel' with no explanation of what that means.
 
3:29 PM
didn't get to it last night, but probably will this evening.
 
Aaah okay
I'll keep an eye out
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I've also got chakwas, I'll let you know if I get to it before FAE does.
 
It's why I haven't accepted the answer on this question:
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Q: What are the advantages and disadvantages of each choice for ships doctor?

LessPop_MoreFizzAfter arriving a Huerta Memorial hospital, I have a choice. I can bring my old friend Dr. Chakwas aboard the Normandy, or I can ask her to enjoy her retirement for once and bring aboard Dr. Chloe Michel to serve as my ships doctor instead. Aside from the chance at a token Paragon/Renegade doctor...

 
@agent86 all I've got left in ME2 is Legion and his loyalty quest, then the rest of the main plot so I should be available for ME3 multiplayer sometime this week (finally)
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Hmm, she does say that it's been made "more effective," and I don't remember getting a medi-gel increase...maybe it's a faster heal time? Can't remember off-hand. :/
 
3:31 PM
@TimStone Yeah, I'm curious about what the actual upgrade is. Faster heal time would make sense.
 
@IanPugsley cool. Anna Lear is also on the 360 + playing ME3
we might have to do some 3-up co-op at some point :)
 
@agent86 ooo awesome :)
 
@IanPugsley Pfffft, ME3 Multiplayer is spoiler free! You can play it sans ME2!
 
@agent86 Ah, you're on the 360 too?
 
@IanPugsley also, I gave spugsley's info to my friend. he has a friend who apparently can get the invite, so we'll see if it pans out...
 
3:32 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz considering there's boosters and such, don't you need an actual character?
 
@IanPugsley you get some default characters
 
On a side-note, the conversation with Chakwas is great, because the game makes fun of itself (which it does in a few cases)
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Haha, I do have at least one friend who is doing this. He lost his ME1&2 saves so he's replaying through them and in the meantime, playing ME3 MP.
 
@agent86 that would be the best of things, and you would be the best of people
 
@IanPugsley it's separated completely from the SP - you're not playing Shepard in MP
 
3:32 PM
@TimStone "I will destroy you!"
 
@TimStone yes, I'm playing on the 360 :)
 
@agent86 I knew that, but I figured there might be save issues if I plan on importing my ME2 save later
 
Oh, good. I was thinking I was the only one (Well, I knew @IanPugsley was also playing ME2)
@FallenAngelEyes Heheh
 
@IanPugsley ME3 multi can influence SP, but not the other way around. You can only get upgrades for MP from playing MP (or spending money).
 
@IanPugsley nah, it's no big deal. the only downside to sinking a lot of time into MP now is that your MP progress for war readiness degrades over time
I've been waiting on the MP until I'm closer to the end, so I can actually take advantage of the bonus
 
3:34 PM
If Jeff no longer works for SE, why does he still have a diamond?
 
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Q: Mass Effect Insanity mode

Cem22lpWhich bonus power would be best for an engineer class on an insanity play-through or is it better to take a different class and if so what class/Bonus power should i take? And does anybody have any advice on the best way to approach an Insanity play-through? And what things would make it easier t...

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Q: I didn't fire the Blackstar, how can it best be exploited?

StephenI found the Reaper Blackstar during Priority: Palaven and I resisted the urge to fire it, relying on conventional weapons to finish the mission. It now appears next to my weapons bench in the Shuttle Bay. What is the best way to use this single shot heavy weapon going forward? Is there a board...

 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Would you recommend it?
 
@GnomeSlice It's pretty good, though I like his other work more.
By the way, Defense Drone is an amazing bonus power for Vanguard.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz If I wanted to read one of his books, what would you recommend?
 
@GnomeSlice Sewer Gas & Electric if you like absurdist parody humor sci fi
Bad Monkeys otherwise.
 
3:39 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz o rly
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz What's that one about?
 
@agent86 I'm tmslft on xbox live by the way, if you're inclined to add me. (cc: @AnnaLear)
 
user15026
@agent86 What am I getting blamed for? XD
 
Everything, of course.
 
No! He's your dad, you can't just call him "Not Mum." Not Mum? That's you. "Also Not Mum". That's me. And everybody else is... "Peasants". That's a bit unfortunate.
 
3:44 PM
@AshleyNunn Snoopy!
 
user15026
@FallenAngelEyes Hey, that game is fun! :)
 
@FallenAngelEyes So, thing about Defense Drone is that it hovers around you, and zaps anything that's close to you.
But it's not a valid target and can't itaelf be killed.
 
user15026
Most of my views-related badges come from my questions about iOS games :D
 
And with upgrades, it will stun or knockdown anything that's close to you.
 
I'm not even sure if I have any views-related badges. What are they called?
 
3:47 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz ...sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Oh, really? I wouldn't have thought that was the case.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz What's that?
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Brief synopsis?
 
@GnomeSlice Woman is arrested for murder, claims to be part of secret organization dedicated to killing Bad People. Tells her life story to shrink in jail.
 
3:49 PM
I'm tempted to copy and paste the description from the onebox...but I should be working.
 
@TimStone Yeah, Defense Drone is unkillable, and awesome.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz ...Interesting.
 
Fire it up and spam charge.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz ...so...Assassin's Creed?
 
I'll just leave that there
 
3:55 PM
@Wipqozn Is the next game out in English yet?
 
@Wipqozn Layton is an asshole
3
 
WTF 3 games are out in English that I haven't played?
I really need to find my DS.
 
@AshleyNunn LPMF noted that I'm #1 on the Snoopy's Street Fair tag, which I contend is your fault for asking questions about it :P
 
So, I just looked at the Hat Dash Hall of Fame for the first time in a while... and there's a hole. :(
 
user15026
@agent86 I give you my utmost apologies ;)
 
3:58 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz Oh wow, didn't even think about that :(
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz there's a hole in a couple of places...
@AshleyNunn you are forgiven ;)
 
user15026
@agent86 Hurray, I feel much better now
 
@TimStone friend request sent, it should be fairly obvious :)
 

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