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10:02 PM
I said this in my post, but the name "The Bridge" implied to me it was a command center, and from the name I wasn't sure I should even enter. I thought maybe it was just meant for mods. And the description was NO help
 
@Sterno Well, it is supposed to be a command center. :P
 
I'll admit to not really having any clue the first few hours I was in here either :)
didn't really help that most everything is posted without context and assumed that you know the previous year's worth of in-jokes :)
 
I'm curious about the rationale for leaving the baffling room description
 
This Kickstarter project needs some love quickly. Code Hero: A Game That Teaches You To Make Games
 
@Sterno I think it's for the lulz
 
10:08 PM
@agent86 Right. Which is cool for the people already here. Less cool for the people outside. Particularly since there are no lulz to be had for the people who aren't in on the in-jokes
 
@Sterno you just need more MsDugITBANI and less intercontinental ballistic badgers. (I am in complete agreement with you, just playing ;) )
 
@Sterno It implied to me that you played cards here.
 
@ArdaXi funny I knew they would have a reward for 1,337$ before even scrolling down
 
@Pyrodante I thought this was very clever, by Amazon.
 
nice
 
10:11 PM
If it's not obvious, that's buying Snow Crash and Cryptonomicon together.
 
> Code Hero is a game that teaches you how to make games so you can learn to code while you play with a Code Gun that shoots Javascript in Unity 3D!
That's... wow
 
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Q: Cannot properly view third person anymore

IrishJMASo when I am playing Skyrim, I typically use the third person view. It is just easier for me to see what is going on. However, lately when I try to switch to third person, all I get is a zoomed in version with the camera right over my character's right shoulder. If I draw my weapon, it will zo...

 
@Raven
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I finished ME playthrough 1 at 47, do I have any hope of reaching 60 on my 2nd?
 
@FallenAngelEyes Yeeees. You'll have to be pretty thorough though. The last 10 levels require an order of magnitude more XP
I finished a playthrought at 37 and ended the second at 59 (And let me tell you, that was infuriating)
 
It is my completionist run, so I'm hoping...
 
10:20 PM
ME?
 
Yup.
Oh
@Pyrodante Mass Effect
 
oh right, I'm a dumb
 
10:30 PM
Any comments on my interface design before I start making it really hard to modify?
 
@GnomeSlice "Back" looks like "Bock"
 
Eh, it's fine.
It looks better from a notscreenshot.
 
The tail is really small. It's fine if it has something to do with Terminator.
 
@OrigamiRobot Just... ignore the font...
 
That's the only thing I know to comment on since I don't know what this is going to be for.
 
10:34 PM
It's a school thing, basically a photo slideshow.
Of no particular topic.
 
Is the brown part going to have text?
 
@OrigamiRobot Presumably thumbnails.
 
@GnomeSlice next and back aren't really a nice pair of antonyms... forward/back, next/previous
 
@OrigamiRobot Yes.
The black rectangle will have the images in it, the brown area will have a little blurb about each image.
@NickT Yeah, one of each of those sets doesn't fit though.
Maybe next and last?
 
@GnomeSlice Why would you make it hard to modify?
 
10:38 PM
@GnomeSlice As long as the text is readable, seems fine to me. Maybe change "Reset" to "First"
 
@ArdaXi Because that's just what's going to happen once I start adding some functionality and cleaning up the shapes.
 
@GnomeSlice So long as the function of the buttons doesn't change, it shouldn't be too hard to modify, should it?
 
@ArdaXi Would you stop arguing with me please. I'm still not very efficient at this kind of thing and I'm bound to take away some ability to edit it by mistake.
 
@GnomeSlice If you don't mind your future self hating your former self... I know I've done it on quite a few occasions.
 
I do that kind of thing all the time.
 
10:43 PM
@GnomeSlice To be fair, you did ask for comments on the design. I don't think he's trying to argue with you, just give you feedback.
 
@FallenAngelEyes I understand, but I asked for feedback on the design, not to be prodded as to why I'm doing it the way I'm doing it.
Nobody is upset here.
 
@GnomeSlice That's part of the feedback - knowing how and why things are implemented the way they are can shape how you approach your understanding of the system.
 
@GraceNote That's not... what I meant.
 
@GnomeSlice I'm just saying that if you do it this way, you're probably going to hurt yourself in the long run. If you're fine with that, you're free to ignore my comments, but they're still worth mentioning.
 
10:46 PM
He only wanted aesthetic advice.
 
@ArdaXi How will this hurt me at all.
I never said I wasn't going to be changing it in the future.
 
Some people take aesthetics from understanding the functionality.
 
Why do you always focus on the unimportant information whenever I ask anything.
 
@GraceNote I really just wanted to say "aesthetic advice"
 
If I'm working on a project, and I say something is going to occur, you should just accept that I probably know what I'm doing and actually give me input on what I'm asking about.
 
10:47 PM
@GnomeSlice No. No, that's not how it works.
 
@ArdaXi Then you should work on that.
 
No, I don't.
If you ask for advice, I'm going to give it my way. I'm not going to be told how to do it, that defeats the purpose. If you don't like it, don't listen to me.
 
I don't understand, I asked for comments on the design.
 
@GnomeSlice He's not challenging what you know, you know.
 
Even if you don't ask for advice, I'm still free to give it, and just because you force yourself into this victim role all the time does not mean I have to indulge you every time you try to tell me what to do.
 
10:48 PM
@GraceNote Yes, I know.
I'm not making myself out to be a victim.
Settle down.
 
Perhaps he should have stated it "Hey guys any feedback on my design, while its still in design phase so I can hammer out the kinks before I begin building it?"
 
I'm not upset or anything, you just don't seem to realise I don't take kindly to being told what to do by most people.
 
@Pyrodante I basically meant 'before I start adding code to it'.
Because when I add code to things, I often cause issues. It was a mostly a joke at the expense of my lacking coding ability.
 
@GnomeSlice Probably would've been wise to clarify that rather than engage Arda on word choice you meant as a joke at your expense.
 
Right, I understand
 
10:50 PM
@NickT It's giving the word a negative connotation. That is offensive.
 
@GraceNote I didn't engage anyone.
 
@GnomeSlice Instead of telling him "Stop arguing with me", just telling him "I was joking at my expense" would've gone lengths better.
 
@ardaxi @NickT I don't know what sticks have anything to do with this
 
I explained the reason in the same post.
This is ridiculous, now I feel like a child being sent to the principal's office.
 
@Pyrodante You know very well the connotation and denotation of that word. Being overly literal doesn't really work in terms of offence.
 
10:52 PM
@ArdaXi I don't know if calling someone that word can be non-offensive.
 
@OrigamiRobot Well, it can be, if you're British, but not in this context.
 
@OrigamiRobot Lots of people refer to cigarettes as 'fags'.
 
@Ardaxi its my defense from being offended...
 
@GnomeSlice I'm sorry if you feel that way, but fact is, you've had a history of flipping out at @Arda for arguing with you, so when you do talk about Arda arguing with you without clarification, and then when someone calls you out on it, you say that it's about Arda nitpicking without addressing the part where there's a miscommunication.
 
10:53 PM
@ArdaXi I would be offended if someone called me a cigarette.
 
Of course there's a miscommunication.
Because anyone else wouldn't need me to be that specific.
 
I didn't know what you meant, either, which is why I kept pressing on the subject. Fallen didn't know what you meant, which is why she defended Arda
 
Fixed.
 
@GnomeSlice You know, you can try to put this on me all you want, but I don't have any of these problems with anyone else really.
 
I'm not putting anything on anyone... what's 'this'.
 
10:54 PM
@GnomeSlice "Because anyone else wouldn't need me to be that specific."
 
I'm just trying to make you understand that that the stuff you're asking me about isn't relevant to what I actually want input on.
 
You're implying I'm the only one who "nitpicks like this", blaming me for the incident.
 
Oh for Pete's sake.
I thought it was generally understood that it's always my fault.
 
@GnomeSlice Which is because you made an offhand-comment that was irrelevant to what you wanted without clarifying that it was supposed to be offhand.
 
Who said anything about nitpicking Jesus Christ.
@GraceNote I still asked specifically for comments on the design.
 
10:55 PM
You're not going to just get input on the things you want input on. That's life.
 
This is dumb, this is the kind of thing 6 year olds argue.
 
@GnomeSlice From some of our perspectives, "making things difficult to modify" could very well affect the design.
 
@ArdaXi See, I thought you were a nice person, and just had the wrong idea about what I was asking.
 
Just as an aside - this is the second time I've dropped in to chat with you guys. Both times, there's been an argument going on. Today has not been a very friendly day :/
 
@GnomeSlice I would agree, but I still maintain the right to defend myself.
 
10:56 PM
In GnomeSlice's defense, when he told Arda that's not what he was asking (however abrasive), Arda kept pressing that issue.
 
@ArdaXi Fine, consider yourself defended.
 
Uf, sorry @spugsley
 
You win whatever we were arguing about.
And I still don't have any input on my user interface design other than something about the font.
 
@GnomeSlice I wasn't trying to win or anything. I'm just trying to explain to you, once again, that thi'ngs won't always go your way.
 
@GraceNote No need to apologize but consider this: if anyone new decided to try chat today, they would never try again.
 
10:57 PM
tbh, @GnomeSlice, we don't know what that thing is to begin with, what each button will do etc.; you've really given us little to work with
 
@GnomeSlice I'm just saying that telling Arda why he shouldn't dwell on something irrelevant would've gone better for you than just telling him to stop arguing.
 
@GraceNote I did.
> I'm still not very efficient at this kind of thing and I'm bound to take away some ability to edit it by mistake.
 
so what Arda did find to work with is the (perhaps poorly worded, but correct) side remark about how mistakes get more expensive to fix the later you fix them
 
That's... not really clear about it being irrelevant. It almost sounds like an ask for help. It doesn't come across the way you explained the comment later as a joke about how things turn out when you code.
 
@GnomeSlice The thing is, someone else might have found my comment helpful, and you might find similar, seemingly irrelevant comments useful. I can't exactly tell, and I really am just trying to help.
It might be a lot easier if you simply ignore me whenever I say something you can't do anything with.
Or... just ignore me completely I suppose.
 
11:00 PM
@spugsley That sounds like every reason I should be saying sorry.
 
@ArdaXi I could have explained 'yes I'm going to still be leaving some editing abillity in these' and given you a good explanation of exactly what I was doing.
But that never seems to work on you anyway, and it would have gotten me off-topic.
Anyway, I really don't feel like arguing about this any more, it's stupid, and I don't want to.
 
@spugsley really? I'm not sure I see why that would be the case. What is chat without arguments? A sequence of lolcats to idly laugh at?
 
@GnomeSlice I'm just trying to prevent this from happening again, and again, and again.
 
@GnomeSlice I'm very meh about the design myself, not knowing what exactly it is, though.
 
Sure, the tone matters. And it's bitter, and it doesn't certainly help.
 
11:01 PM
I'm guessing it's some kind of showcase thing, though.
 
@ArdaXi =[
 
I'm not going to tip-toe around you just to make sure I don't inadvertently start an argument.
 
I don't see how you can not understand that I was asking about the graphical design.
And I'm sorry.
 
@GnomeSlice I don't see how you can't understand that I understood perfectly, and wasn't answering that question directly.
 
I guess I just don't make connections the way you people do.
 
11:02 PM
@GnomeSlice How about, does your program only have three features?
 
@ArdaXi ...Why not? That's the question I asked.
 
@GnomeSlice The layout is functional (making the assumption I made earlier) although I do think that the bottom brown box cutting into the gray sidebar is weird.
 
@badp Yeah, it's a really simple thing.
 
I was making a tangentially related comment. This is chat, not a Q&A forum. A response does not necessarily have to answer the question.
It's... you know, conversation.
 
@GraceNote Weird good?
 
11:03 PM
@GnomeSlice Like I said, if I go off on a tangent you don't want to, you can just ignore me and I won't drag on about it.
 
No... not in a good way.
 
@GraceNote =[
 
It's not balanced at all
 
@GraceNote wat.
 
@GnomeSlice Weird as in "why is this there? is there supposed to be something here? why is it empty? is this thing working correctly?"
 
11:04 PM
I just thought it was a neat design element. If you notice, the grey border on the left of the navbar goes behind the brown thing too.
 
@GnomeSlice The brown box extends more to the left than it does on the right, for no apparent reason. Then there's also a random other smaller brown box on the far left.
 
There's going to be text in that dark brown box.
 
@GnomeSlice That would've been something to point out then
 
Yeah, I suppose.
Hang on a tick.
 
It feels unwieldy to me because I can't see why the brown box is placed overlapping above the sidebar. (I also assumed it was a textbox, and this still feels weird)
It's like it's half overlapping thanks to the smaller brown box. Like, kinda like a thread from sewing - sticks out but dips in at a point.
 
11:07 PM
Also. Be careful about how you handle that pixelated picture of yours.
 
Some suggestions would be either knocking out the small brown box on the left, or not cutting into the sidebar so much, or cutting off some of the right side of the textbox. I'm saying this mostly because I don't know how much text you expect in the box - without that, the unbalanced placement with respect to what it looks like it would be centered on feels like it's taking up more room than it should.
 
@GraceNote Yeah, the size of the text box is based on symmetry though, still not sure.
 
@GnomeSlice Hm. Then you should place it further left if it needs to be that big. At the moment... gimmeh a moment...
 
You need to make sure that all the borders of the "pixels" end up on integer coordinates if you want to use that
 
It probably doesn't, but I didn't want it to go to the edge of the photo box on one side, and not the other.
@badp Not happening. I'm not too worried, it's an actionscript class.
 
11:10 PM
Mainly it means you must be more careful about scaling it down
 
Eh, it's vector.
But hm... yeah, it does look a little whack.
 
@GraceNote Center lines, I take it?
 
Yep. Red is the rough center of the textbox, green is the rough center of the photobox, blue is the center of the UI.
 
@GraceNote Well, the image box isn't going to be right in the center
 
11:12 PM
The textbox appears aligned with nothing.
 
Yeah, it's not. I just tried to give it a uniform border.
 
No, the photobox is fine where it is, I think it's good where it is.
 
Lol.
Aligning the textbox to various other elements leaves some ugly whitespace on the brown bar at the bottom.
 
Eh? I'm not sure how that's possible
Could you give me an example image of that?
I am noting that the left edge of the text box is roughly the middle of your sidebar, but this conflicts with it being flush to the right side of the UI.
 
@GraceNote The edge of the white section covering the brown is the direct center of my sidebar
The textbox has the (mostly) same size border on all sides, so it's equidistant from the right edge as from the sidebar's center
 
11:16 PM
Okay, let me rephrase that when I say "textbox", I mean both the light and the dark brown boxes. They come across as a package.
 
Oh, yeah.
I had a little shape at the point where it meets the white to make it look like a slip of paper, i.e. the brow was passing through the white.
But it was ugly.
 
So all of my current critique is grouping them together - I don't want to see just the dark brown change, but the light brown to match with it. I think moving the center of the whole block to meet the center of the full image may look keener.
 
@GraceNote I don't understand.
Oh, I think I see what you're saying...
I don't want to leave any blue space between the two UI elements though.
Hm. Anyway, I'll figure something out.
 
Where you can fill in that whitespace either with the blue background (but that'd look weird with the accompanying brown on the opposite side) or brown (which then you'd need to better detail the "flow" from the left to right)
 
@GraceNote Then I'll end up with an even longer text box.
Not that that's necessarily a bad thing.
Large text = readable.
 
11:23 PM
Bacon Ipsum is a thing?
 
@RavenDreamer Sure is.
 
:/
I miss Powerlord's bacon rants.
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@GnomeSlice It's not a bad thing, but I'm suggesting extending the light brown, not the dark brown. Otherwise you'll just end up unbalanced again.
 
@GraceNote The gap on the end between the edge of the text and the edge of the frame looks odd
@RavenDreamer I prefer Fillerati.
 
@GnomeSlice I'm aware, I don't particularly like it, but I also don't really like the little brown on the far left either. It looks dissociated from the text box, yet it causes a balance issue if the right doesn't match it.
 
11:27 PM
@GraceNote That's supposed to be part of the same element as the other piece.
i.e. the white nav bar is overlapping part of the bottom bar.
 
@GnomeSlice The fact it's only overlapping part of it looks weird, but that's partly because it's all solid colors.
@Raven I need your critical eye. Watch this video (youtube.com/watch?v=ji5MmpM63Y4) at about 2:18 - Ezreal Arcane Shifts and then attacks the other one. Is there an auto-attack before he fires his Mystic Shot?
You can avoid this by not having the dark brown part be a different color. Or not restricting the coverage of the dark brown to be just where the text is.
 
Eh, it's not even a design course, you've given me a few ideas, but need to actually get back to working on it.
 
Happy to help what little I can. ♪ I didn't get one of my degrees in electronic media just for it to waste away.
 
Which degree in electronic media did you get to waste away?
 
@RonanForman I only have one degree in EMAC. My other one is in CSCI.
 
11:35 PM
 
@GnomeSlice I think you can pull the left edge of the gradiant and box a little more right if you feel it's stretching too far left. Otherwise, that actually kinda deals with my balance issue.
 
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Q: How come Sona can speak in game?

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grr, I fixed everything, and now a driver or something is crashing my computer. D:
 
11:54 PM
@GraceNote So that is you.
 
@ArdaXi I had wondered if someone would go through and eventually look that kind of stuff up. Keep it under wraps, neh? ♪
 
@GraceNote Mysteriousness is a challenge to me. I don't live a very exciting life.
 
I see, I see.
You should be able to draw the rest of the information from that revelation, then.
 
@RavenDreamer I miss Powerlord, period. :/
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