The Bridge

Arda Xi

6:00 PM

Or one of those other abominations.

GnomeSlice

@ArdaXi My Kongregate name is xGnomeSlicex. Because someone stole my original account. =[

I HATE IT.

DAMMIT.

Wipqozn

Walrus? Mana?

@RonanForman manafy this right now

GnomeSlice

That looks like an alot.

With tusks.

Wipqozn

maybe someone (@RonanForman) should manafy the kid in my gravatar

oh wait

better idea

GnomeSlice

@Mana you are my hero.

Wipqozn

6:01 PM

photoshop my gravatar onto the face of the kid in my gravatar

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn That seems terribly recursive.

(I can use that word too!)

Arda Xi

hopes SABnzbd finishes unpacking before 2100

Mana

@GnomeSlice Now, what do I do about the friend request? Do I accept for laughs? But then I might get this annoying Liam guy posting all over my wall

GnomeSlice

@Mana Yeah, don't.

Or you could start a new server with him.

And then sabotage it.

Mana

too much work

GnomeSlice

6:03 PM

(V) (°,,,,°) (V)

Mana

Besides, it will become obvious before too long that I'm not Walrus. I just found this amusing.

Arda Xi

@Mana You're too much work.

GnomeSlice

Wipqozn

@mana @GnomeSlice so why do you fellows dislike this Liam fellow?

GnomeSlice

R...Really futurama.

Arda Xi

6:04 PM

@GnomeSlice That just showed up on my wall.

Mana

@Wipqozn I don't really dislike him, but he doesn't really come off as a nice person.

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice You're feeling like a foul-smelling, medically-inept lobster creature? Gotcha.

Wipqozn

@Mana I see I see

Also, oh so old, and has been posted before, but I love this picture:

Mana

I just happened to get wrapped up in this mess when I saw the treepunch post about how the server was taken down and commented on it saying that I'm the one to blame

Wipqozn

@Mana that sucks :/

GnomeSlice

6:07 PM

@Mana WHOSE FAULT WAS THAT.

Mana

No, it's hilarious!

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice Walrus I think.

Wipqozn

@Mana Well I was trying to be not a jerk

Arda Xi

@Wipqozn Good job. Jerk.

Wipqozn

@ArdaXi Thank you.

GnomeSlice

6:08 PM

Cortex command, why are you in a tiny tiny window now...

Mana

I've never even been on the treepunch server!

Arda Xi

@Wipqozn Technically, I edited that before you replied.

@Mana I've never even been on a Minecraft server.

Me neither.

Wait... treepunch...

Neither has Mana.

6:08 PM

@Mana ah, I can see the humour.

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice Where's that name come from?

GnomeSlice

@ArdaXi Which name? Treepunch.ca? It was my idea.

Sort of a bad one, but meh.

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice Yes, why is it named that?

GnomeSlice

Especially since the guys from Treepunch.us (Anarchy server) DDOS'd us as soon as they found out.

I don't know, you punch trees to get wood to craft things.

Arda Xi

Oh, good.

GnomeSlice

6:10 PM

NEW WEAPONS. ಥ_ಥ

Arda Xi

I was afraid it had something to do with Facepunch.

Mana

shudders Facepunch...

Arda Xi

@Mana You know Facepunch?

Wipqozn

I have no idea what Facepaunch is

GnomeSlice

I do not. Surprisingly, I've managed to make it through highschool without being punched in the face.

Mana

6:11 PM

@ArdaXi I indeed do know Facepunch.

Arda Xi

@Mana Were you ever a member?

Mana

@ArdaXi Yes.

Arda Xi

What name?

Mana

SecretofMana.

duh.

Arda Xi

Hmm, never seen you.

Mana

6:12 PM

Yes, that is because I am not a particularly vocal member of Facepunch.

Arda Xi

I was an active member there for like 3 years.

I'm actually a gold member.

Haven't been there in ages though.

Wipqozn

wait, what. Java doesn't contain a value equivalent to the C argc? That's terrible.

Arda Xi

@Wipqozn It's unnecessary in Java.

Tim Stone

Since you can get the length directly from the argument array it'd be a bit silly if it did.

user30

@GnomeSlice Is your server inhabited by 12 year olds?

Wipqozn

6:18 PM

@TimStone @aYou could, but I prefer to have a variable.

GnomeSlice

@ThomasMcDonald Some of them, yes.

user30

sounds like it

GnomeSlice

It's Minecraft, what do you expect.

Arda Xi

@Wipqozn argv.length

C doesn't have it. Java does.

Wipqozn

@ArdaXi args* actually, but yeah

I don't know, I would just prefer argc or something similar.

Arda Xi

6:18 PM

If you so desperately want a variable: int argc = args.length

@Wipqozn Isn't it whatever you define it as?

Wipqozn

@ArdaXi Isn't args the expected way though?

Arda Xi

I don't know, I hardly ever use Java.

Wipqozn

to maintain readability for when others view your code

I've never programmed in Java before, so I'm not certain either

Tim Stone

public static void main(String[] magicBananas)

Wipqozn

@TimStone Indeed, it's possible, but I'm talking about common practice. Normally there are practices you follow to make your code easier to understand for other coders.

LessPop_MoreFizz

6:20 PM

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Tim Stone

Yeah, I was just saying nonsense really.

LessPop_MoreFizz

TAKE DRUGS. KILL A BEAR.

Tim Stone

But more seriously, yes, args

Mana

To be fair, args and its .length property make more sense to me than argc and argv.

Wipqozn

@Mana I prefer argc, but it's probably just because I learned how to code in C++

Mana

6:22 PM

Why do you prefer argc?

It basically makes absolutely no difference, in terms of readability.

Arda Xi

@Wipqozn So put int argc = args.length; as the first line in your method body.

Mana

both .length and argc are ints, anyways. They both return the same value. I don't really see how you can "prefer" one.

Wipqozn

@ArdaXi that's not how Java does it though.

Arda Xi

@Wipqozn It can be.

Wipqozn

I'm writing a JAva program right now, not a C program.

Tim Stone

6:24 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz HELL YEAH

Arda Xi

@Wipqozn Java does it however you want it to.

If you want argc, you can define it.

It's a tad pointless, but it'll work fine.

Wipqozn

@ArdaXi yes, yes. I'm talking about common practice. I'm assuming since it doesn't exist, common practice is that it just uses argc.length().

I try not to steer away from common practice unless it makes sense to

Arda Xi

@Wipqozn Yes, that is more common. Although, usually an iterator is used.

Wipqozn

my reasoning for argc is "because", so I'm not going to change it

I only use the length in one place anyways, so like you said, would be pointless

Also, I love VIM.

Mana

Vim is a beast but I suck at it.

Marco Ceppi

6:27 PM

Meh, nano

2

Mana

And I will continue to suck at it for a long time.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@TimStone TAKE DRUGS, KILL A BEAR.

Advice Tribal.

Mana

@LessPop_MoreFizz Yeah, I prefer this to BoH. What's the relation between the two bands anyways?

Wipqozn

@Mana Indeed. It can be hard to learn, but it's quite powerful. I'm only a novice at it myself, although my knowledge is growing.

GnomeSlice

Restarting Treepunch.ca

Mana

6:29 PM

@MarcoCeppi nano's great

Wipqozn

Have never programmed in nano myself

It's a clone of Pico?

Isn't Pico, well, terrible :/

Marco Ceppi

It's an updated version of Pico, yes

I use it all the time for server management stuff <3

badp

It does have non-"standard" keybinds

like Ctrl-W'here and Ctrl-O'ut

but it's not too bad

I've seen much worse

Marco Ceppi

I love Ctrl-O - I hate that my IDE does not let me re-bind Open and Save :(

badp

like Joe's text editor, or whatever that thing's called

LessPop_MoreFizz

6:32 PM

@Mana Carissa's Wierd was Ben's band befor BoH

@Mana Also, Jenn Ghetto from S.

Was in CW first.

They broke up back in 2003. :(

Arda Xi

Vim > All.

LessPop_MoreFizz

But they played a one off show last night. And I was lucky enough to be in Seattle for it.

@Mana See also:

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Wipqozn

@ArdaXi Damn straight. When I first started coding, I used Visual Studio. I tried Pico, couldn't stand it. I tried VIM next, and haven't turned back.

Arda Xi

@Wipqozn ViEmu.

user30

vimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvim

Arda Xi

6:35 PM

Looking forward to the coding.

user30

+ pathogen

Wipqozn

For the record, I set bg=dark

Mana

I used VIM before it was cool.

LessPop_MoreFizz

P.S. FUCK YOU ASSHOLE STEAM 15 minutes remaining my ass

Arda Xi

I used Vi before it was Vim.

Wipqozn

6:37 PM

@ArdaXi oh man, you're so technically incorrect

Arda Xi

@Wipqozn Technically.

And of course I am. Vim was written in 1988.

Marco Ceppi

@ArdaXi Mapchooser is installed now and working properly (I hope) should be able to extend prior to rounds ending.

Wipqozn

@ArdaXi Vim and Vi are different text editors. Technically.

Mana

@LessPop_MoreFizz You sound angry!

Marco Ceppi

And RTV Works now!

Mana

6:38 PM

You saw Carissa's Weird last night. Don't be angry.

Wipqozn

So I assume you won't be joining us for Game On! @Mana?

Mana

Damn it stats teacher, I can't take it seriously when you abbreviate your assignment documents as "ass"

unfortunately not, buddy.

Wipqozn

Hopefully we'll have good numbers today

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Mana I went to see CW last night, and Steam said 30 minutes remaining at 5 PM yesterday. It is nearly noon, and it is down to 15 minutes remaining.

Wipqozn

I know I won't be around for the whole thing (h/w)

user30

6:49 PM

I'll be around for most of it

user30

are we alltalking?

Wipqozn

@ThomasMcDonald yeah

user30

sound

John

I'm so lonely sitting in the tf2 server...

Marco Ceppi

Coming to provide some company :)

John

6:54 PM

On the upside, I'm finally winning! :P

Arda Xi

@John My download finished, I'll fix that.

Wipqozn

@John I lol'd

Clever girl.

Arda Xi

TGWW.

Mana

What does TGWW mean?

Ronan Forman

Damn I can make game on, oh well have fun everyone!

user30

6:56 PM

disaster

Ronan Forman

It'll give @Mana a chance to heal someone else.

Kevin Y

I'll be about 20 minutes late to the Game On! party.

user30

Just waiting for my computer to load up

badp

I'm not going to partake today

user30

:(

Arda Xi

7:04 PM

):

Mana

:(

badp

Actually, my Allegiance clan usually has squad games every sunday on this time

so I must give it the right of way :)

Today though I'm not doing either

GnomeSlice

Viva la Game On!. =[

Mana

Woah!

AGH. ACT 5 ENDING WHERE ARE YOU.

God, the build up to it is so epic too.

badp

ಠ_ಠ

badp

7:29 PM

Hrm, so is the TF2'ing over already?

I was about to create next Sunday's event but...

ne'ermind, that's just Raven.

Lazers

1

Q: Will I miss cool stuff if I restart?

I'm currently playing Dead Rising 2 on the Xbox 360 and the game is getting increasingly hostile towards me. I have to keep rushing for toilets like I've eaten nothing but mexican for a week or else I get brutalized by psychopaths, tigers and mercenaries and forfeit everything I've been doing for...

dead-rising-2

user30

No, tf2 is still going

Arda Xi

7:47 PM

And TF2 crashes again.

Oh well, I'm out anyway.

user30

ragequit

Arda Xi

Pretty much.

I only lost because @DMA57361 had a short attention span :P

(I'm projecting my own failure on others like @GraceNote taught me)

3

Wipqozn

I'll need to rejoin for a bit after I get some more done on this assignment

user30

It's 3v2 now. :(

badp

8:10 PM

3v3 CTF? Hardcore

Ronan Forman

So Sunday's not as popular as Saturday?

C. Ross

Anyone played Might and Magic V?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@CRoss Which one was 5?

Arda Xi

The fifth one?

C. Ross

I haven't played any of them

considering buying it, so wanted a review

Powerlord

8:18 PM

DMA is WAY too good with the Scottish Resistance.

Then again, Sco Res is one of those weapons that is way more powerful the less players there are.

badp

@Powerlord DMA?

oh right the player

user30

@DMA57361

badp

not an item or whatever

The Doughnuts of Mauling Alot.

GnomeSlice

Shark Attack!

badp

Doughnuts Devouring Demoknights.

GnomeSlice

8:25 PM

ZOMG. If you can keep up with me, check out my huge freaking air!

user30

dustbowl, first map

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice Again with the linking to Unity.

You actually crashed the rendering process in which I was in the Bridge.

user30

135 ping is pretty difficult to play with

Arda Xi

@badp Don't maul Alot!

GnomeSlice

8:32 PM

...Not quite sure what to make of Aero Flux...

Er...?

I mean, it seems like your standard forward scrolling shooter, with multiplayer, but... what's with the scantily clad girls?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@GnomeSlice Japan.

GnomeSlice

I don't think it's Japanese.

Just inspired.

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice Well there you go.

GnomeSlice

@ArdaXi Yeah but... but...

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice I don't see any butts.

GnomeSlice

8:37 PM

@ArdaXi That's because there're two t's in 'Butt'.

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice Now you're talking about tees too?

C. Ross

@GnomeSlice as long as they don't get progressively less scantily clad I think you're ok

GnomeSlice

@CRoss You mean 'More' scantily clad.

C. Ross

@GnomeSlice that I do

GnomeSlice

Assuming you're talking about suspension.

C. Ross

8:39 PM

@GnomeSlice suspension?

GnomeSlice

@CRoss Chat suspension.

C. Ross

oh, we don't suspend you based on what you play, only what you post ;-)

I was more referring to it being one of those games

GnomeSlice

How do I make my document look like it was written by an Cthulhu worshipping madman? http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/29402/how-do-i-make-my-document-look-like-it-was-written-by-an-cthulhu-worshipping-madm

Tweeted by codinghorror on September 25, 2011 at 7:10 PM

@CRoss which games?

Oh.

C. Ross

yeah.

GnomeSlice

Why does science make everything funnier.

Sitting in my car taking pictures of my canker sore. For science.

Tweeted by mzeld on September 25, 2011 at 7:47 PM

Powerlord

8:44 PM

@ThomasMcDonald Goldrush, actually.

user30

@Powerlord Yeah, that's what I meant to say

GnomeSlice

Sheesh, I hope Aero Flux is rated 18+... o.0

@Mana

Wipqozn

a wild mana appears!

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Wipqozn Oh no, a wild one... We should probably put it down before it gets into the crops.

badp

WE NEED TO DEFEND THE CROPS

Wipqozn

8:49 PM

Quick, put up a sentry gun.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Wipqozn forums.somethingawful.com/…

GnomeSlice

9:02 PM

Dammit, I missed @Mana.

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice We all do.

Brant

server's pretty empty, where is everyone?

badp

This Game On was shorter I'm afraid

I know I'd love to play but can't

I'm in "ANYTHING BUT THIS" mode in the fullest

Brant

9:18 PM

Oh, I missed it?

Wipqozn

@Brant indeed

I think only about 10 people showed up

Brant

Darn.

Wipqozn

just not a good day I think

I had to leave about 40 minutes in for supper/hw

Brant

Well, yesterday was pretty fu at least.

Wipqozn

and I know a few other people had other commitments as well

Thanks for the random gift yesterday @Brant

I can't remember what it was.... but thanks!

Powerlord

9:21 PM

@Wipqozn It was clearly cake. Or bacon. Or cakon.

GnomeSlice

bake.

badp

so, uh, do I have to manually delete Steam events after the fact?

YOU GUYS SUCK.

@badp No, why would you?

GnomeSlice

9:24 PM

@Powerlord Is... is that lazy town... ._.

badp

@Wipqozn if I had to guess, the Machina; it's the item you probably got last

@Powerlord steamcommunity.com/groups/stackexchange/events

Today's event is marked "2h 24m 47s overdue"

Powerlord

@badp On my screen they're marked as "Past Events"

badp

so I guess I'll let them be

Wipqozn

@badp I don't believe it was the machina

badp

@Wipqozn According to your Steam inventory it's the item you acquired latest

Otherwise it might be the liberty launcher.

Or the widowmaker.

(Also how do you have a vintage axtinguisher?)

Wipqozn

9:27 PM

@badp I'm awesome?

badp

Yeah, let's look at other hypotheses

Arda Xi

@Powerlord Why?

Wipqozn

but yeah, friend gave it to me

badp

@Powerlord I wish I could non-binding flag that

DMA57361

@Powerlord :D if the entire map isn't covered in stickies something is wrong

Powerlord

9:29 PM

@ArdaXi I mentioned cake earlier and maybe I felt like torturing you!

Arda Xi

@Powerlord NSFW

Powerlord

@DMA57361 And this is why I don't like low player-count matches.

On a higher player count match, you'd never be able to get away with that.

DMA57361

true, it does help quite a bit

John

That map where each team has a cart is a pain to play 1v1.

DMA57361

got some spy action in at the end when the server was almost empty and I was only mildly incompetent, so that's a plus

Arda Xi

9:31 PM

@John That's a gamemode called Payload Race.

badp

@Wipqozn It's weird because typically items that are gifted are marked as such - example

John

@DMA less of a plus because it was all on me and I'm TOTALLY incompetent.

@Arda gotcha thanks

DMA57361

shhh, that was my best ever spy performance, don't spoil it :P

GnomeSlice

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user30

@badp You can trade vintage items

user30

9:34 PM

@GnomeSlice old.

GnomeSlice

Yeah, I linked it like yesterday.

I don't care.

Wipqozn

@ThomasMcDonald Indeed.

badp

oh there we go - @Wipqozn it's your eyelander

I'll note you got pretty sweet drops since then

GnomeSlice

@badp You want a sweet drop?

user30

yay

GnomeSlice

9:36 PM

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badp

@GnomeSlice ಠ▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃ಠ

GnomeSlice

^Sweet Drop^

badp

@ThomasMcDonald yay strange dupe?

user30

nay

Arda Xi

user30

9:37 PM

also earlier I found out my minigun didn't level up at 2000 kills

GnomeSlice

"Hey, we need a photo for this CERN neutrinos story, what'll we do?" "Relax, guys. I've got this." http://instagr.am/p/OJw6m/

Tweeted by flaneur on September 25, 2011 at 1:56 PM

user30

I was sad

GnomeSlice

...lolwhat

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice We can always call neutrinos Einsteins.

GnomeSlice

Best Headline Photo ever.

user30

9:38 PM

errr, what spy item did I sell?

user30

oh

user30

that col roule or whatever

Powerlord

Col Roule were really common for a while, I think.

GnomeSlice

@badp isn't that a sweet drop?

Powerlord

I think those dropped from Summer Crates.

user30

9:40 PM

Yeah, they did

DMA57361

@ArdaXi I never claimed to be good as a medic... :P

John

@ThomasMcDonald Were you [Co-lab] tom?

user30

aye

badp

yes he was

GnomeSlice

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Such a tight bassline, Jesus.

Wait till around 1:17

John

9:50 PM

@ThomasMcDonald Ah. Well at least you got a screenshot when I wasn't dead last. :P

user30

I got a screenshot when I didn't have my 3 dominations going though :(

John

@ThomasMcDonald Considering you were dominating me, :)

GnomeSlice

10:02 PM

Don't Fuck with my Money

(Who said disco was dead?)

Powerlord

@GnomeSlice I did.

Lazers

10:40 PM

0

Q: Legal Issues Concerning a Sid Meier's Colonization Port to Python/Pygame

I've been studying how to create games for the last several months, and I've reached the programming skill that would be needed to port one of the games that inspired me in my youth to be a game designer, Sid Meier's Colonization. I'm planning to port it using pygame, and while I will clone the ...

legal colonization

badp

Meet the Demoman is now ruined for me

I only now realized that the one by C is not the BLU spawn poin

or actually, that RED is defending that map, rather than attacking

and that was already the case in the map, as the point labels are already colored red

so it's not like they changed at some point in between :/

Grace Note

@GnomeSlice This is standard fare

(Also, that is scantily clad?)

GnomeSlice

Well, it's form fitted...

badp

10:57 PM

Does body paint count as clothing?

I guess it doesn't for practical purposes

like cold protection hot or handy swapping

Grace Note

@GnomeSlice Scantily usually implies the lack of clothing moreso than the form-fitting nature. There are other raunchy terms you could use but scantily clad is somewhat off-mark

@badp Paint usually doesn't count, no

Lazers

11:44 PM

0

Q: Deus Ex 3: Weird 'Shock' (Spoilers)

During Deus Ex 3, coming back to my apartment to speak to Sarif I ignored the apartment and went straight into the downstairs elevator, after passing the corner I got a weird 'shock' which acted like a small EMP. What on earth was it? I couldn't see a mine or anything that could've done it...