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3:00 PM
@Wipqozn I agree.
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@ArdaXi There is over heal, but not only would need to kill a lot of enemies in a short time span for that to matter... you're still a spy. Not meant to be running around gunning people.
 
@Wipqozn I agree.
 
I user the big earner myself. The +30% cloak is really useful.
 
@RonanForman Woah. So much glow.
 
@ArdaXi You'd hate them too if you're just trying to snip down some trees and they've got prickers long enough to skewer through your index finger!
 
3:02 PM
@Wipqozn Except again, health reduction.
That and I use the DR which charges fairly quickly if you pick up dropped weapons.
 
@GraceNote I tend not to deflect the discomfort unto the trees.
If an inanimate object hurts me, something other than that object is to blame.
 
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A: Who are the zombie astronauts in Call of Duty Black Ops?

Matthew ReadThe Call of Duty wikia site has some info on this, most pertinently the following: On solo, it uses random names and the name of the Astronaut Zombie will change every time it spawns.

@ArdaXi So, what's wrong here? Not that I don't believe you but I'm curious to hear your reasoning.
 
@Mana An inanimate object is incapable of inflicting damage on its own, something else must spur it into that action
 
@Mana Err, it was already in the flag list. I merely voted on it.
 
oh.
 
3:05 PM
Oh, you're asking on the flag, not the other point. Ignore me~
 
However, it doesn't answer the question.
 
What's the question asking then? Is it about the background of the Astro Zombies?
 
@GraceNote You are simply projecting your own actions leading to the damage on the tree as to refrain from blaming yourself like you should.
 
The question is asking what the zombies are, Matt's answer is on how their names are derived
 
@Mana I took it as asking for what they were, not what the origin of their names is.
 
3:06 PM
Right...and the wiki article doesn't talk about that?
 
@ArdaXi Yes, grabbing a thorn tree without looking to notice it's got ginormous barbs was indeed a silly idea, but I'd have less an issue with it if it weren't for them trying to grow themselves a forest in my backyard and make it impossible to take the lawnmower out to mow the front yard.
 
@Mana What's the policy on linking to articles?
@GraceNote Again, that isn't their fault.
 
They may not be directly attacking me, but it is their growth pattern which necessitated their removal, however philosophically opposed I've gotten as of late.
 
Trees cannot choose their location.
 
They decided to have thorns is the more pressing issue.
 
3:08 PM
@GraceNote You should play minecraft. Punch trees. Feel better.
 
They did not.
 
@ArdaXi Well, I think it's that we frown upon simply posting links to things without replicating the important content, but I don't think that's worth deletion.
 
The problem is that having thorns made it more likely for them to survive.
 
@RavenDreamer That is something I'm also philosophically opposed to.
 
So you must blame the creatures destroying the thorn-less variants, if anything.
 
3:08 PM
@GraceNote Minecraft? Or punching things?
 
@RavenDreamer I just can't get into Minecraft. I find it really dull.
 
@RavenDreamer Minecraft
 
@Mana Play it with someone else.
 
@Mana Fair enough. Like I said, I only flagged to state I agreed with the notion. Feel free to ignore it.
 
Meh. @RavenDreamer what do you think about Matthew Read's zombienaut answer?! puts you on the spot while I go grab food
 
3:10 PM
Mana from heaven? Obviously not.
 
@Mana I don't see any real problems with it.
I'm also not privy to whatever discussion has been ongoing about it.
 
@Mana @Raven I'd suggest just prodding Matt with a comment to expand on the content from the wiki that touches on the "backstory" more
 
So, erm... looks around where is everyone?
runs
 
Matt's pretty reasonable so I'm sure he'll understand
 
Did anyone show up for the TF2 yesterday? I was at lab so couldn't partake
 
3:13 PM
I was lounging about in my house at around the time of Game On, so I couldn't tell you
 
There were quite a few
 
I think I was playing LoL at the time, to be specific.
 
@NickT It was 9v8 at some point IIRC
 
around 14 I think
 
@GraceNote Imagines @GraceNote in a burgundy bathrobe and fuzzy slippers, wandering around with Vodka Martini in hand.
 
3:13 PM
I should have TF2 set to take screenshots automagically
 
@RavenDreamer Grace doesn't drink.
 
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Q: Are Monster Spawners flammable?

DemonicMushyI've seen from a previous question that lava destroys spawners. (Soucre) Does it mean that Spawners are flammable and that you would actually be able to destroy a Spawner using lava?

 
@ArdaXi Irrelevant to my imagination.
 
@RavenDreamer I have a wrap-around blanket that snaps together at the top so it looks like I'm wearing a fur capelet over a slightly furred dress.
...from the front, at least.
 
stupid .tga format
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3:17 PM
imagemagick it
 
@Powerlord wait what. You can recharge the DR with dropped weapons?
 
 
@Wipqozn Anything that refills ammo.
 
 
@badp What is that, like the Dante's Inferno version of TF2?
 
3:19 PM
@Powerlord Are you sure you mean the DR...?
 
@Wipqozn Yup.\
 
@badp Wow... those quality settings.
 
@Wipqozn Yes, but apparently you're thinking of the C&D.
 
I have a few more screenshots
 
@Powerlord I am, thank you.
For some reason I thought it applied to the DR as well.
 
3:19 PM
@ArdaXi I need it for the FPS.
 
sigh I wish I could livestream...
 
@badp I'm so sorry.
@RonanForman I probably could, but not play at the same time.
 
although the jpg artifacts are not my production
 
There are only 3 names on that list I don't recognize, cool
 
@GraceNote Who?
 
3:20 PM
@ArdaXi With your internet speeds?
 
2 more from the other screenshot, taking some creative guesses on who a certain aubergine may be
 
@RonanForman Not the decisive factor.
 
@keviny kicked massive amounts of ass
 
What is then?
 
@RonanForman CPU/RAM.
 
3:21 PM
Who was adversity anyways?
 
@badp I could not, for the life of me, get my team to help me take out your stuff behind E.
 
@ArdaXi Adversity, echthegreat, Fraz, YellowTree, and apparently I meant "2" in that first message.
 
@Wipqozn @Brant
@GraceNote Adversity is @Brant
 
@ArdaXi Can we trade, I just need speed.
 
@Powerlord I find it's one of the best nests in TF2
 
3:21 PM
@Powerlord what set-up do you usually use when you go DR?
 
@ArdaXi Just read that, aye
 
@Wipqozn Enforcer + DR + standard Knife.
 
the only (serious) problem is, the sentry locks me inside
 
Because the Enforcer is ridiculously overpowered with the DR. :D
 
otherwise, I can't teleport people any closer to the point
 
3:22 PM
That was a screenshot where I was winning!
 
@RonanForman No.
 
Although sometimes I swap the L'Etranger in instead.
 
@RonanForman Look on the right.
 
Yeah, but top of the team.
 
@dma57361 was also unexpectedly welcoming... to the Dominatening™
 
3:23 PM
 
There were a couple where I was winning completely.
 
so that's what british sports fans look like
 
@NickT Pretty much.
Oh and that time I beat @MarcoCeppi as a spy 1 on 1.
engage smug mode
 
@RonanForman I think that was a "draw" IMO, considering "death nade" and all
 
I drew first!
 
3:26 PM
RONAN SHOT FIRST!
 
Well you shot first, but rockets are slow.
 
I actually have a small question. I just booted an old laptop from probably 1-2 years ago. When I play TF2 it shows certain achievements I was working towards in the HUD on the top right. How do I do this again? How do I change these? Pic if needed (will ask on the main site (if I have to))
 
wow, 1.41 GB of end of map .tga's
burninates
 
@MarcoCeppi I actually wouldn't know how you did that now.
You need to access the achievements screen.
 
@MarcoCeppi Esc-> Achievements -> tick the checkboxes IIRC
 
3:28 PM
@MarcoCeppi On the in-game achievements page there should be a box labeled "Show on HUD" you can tick.
 
@MarcoCeppi From the start menu pick the 'Achievements' icon at the bottom
Don't bother ticking achievements that don't have a progress bar
 
My 100% completion stops me from doing that.
 
Ah, excellent. I forgotten all about this until I saw it in my old laptop's HUD
 
You'll get satisfying dings now whenever you progress towards an achievement
engineers however only get to show 3 achievements at any one time, and they get in the way of sm_admin too :(
(at least for me)
 
@Powerlord Why did I think the Enforcer had a health penalty?
 
3:35 PM
@RavenDreamer It does afaik
-25
or is that the big earner?
 
@badp big earner
 
well, the enforcer, the dead ringer and the big earner make a killer combination.
 
Enforcer has a 0.5 longer cloak time. something which doesn't matter when used with the DR.
@badp that's what I use
 
I wish I had either the enforcer or the fez
 
@RonanForman I just wish I had more hats. I only have a few.
 
3:37 PM
I have 0 dropped ones.
 
eh, the Fez is just another hat without the YER
 
I would love to get the engineers cap
 
and the Etranger
 
@badp I have all them.
 
I'm happy with the hotrod
 
3:38 PM
I can't ever hit anyone with the l'etranger
 
Actually, @MarcoCeppi are sprays disabled on the server?
 
lolololololol
> The "Engineer's" in the Engineer's Cap suggests that the Engineer is an Engineer.
 
I know I didn't see mine
 
This wiki is so terrible
Half the pages are broken, or need to be updated.
 
I believe they are, yes
 
@badp that's the one I normally use, but that one turned up first for some reason when I searched "engineer's cap"
 
(Yes, I know, this wiki is closed content license)
@Wipqozn That's why you can block sites from Google results
 
@badp That's a good point
I should do that, seeing as how it's terrible.
 
Hurray for TF2 screencaps making me seem like a half decent player
 
3:41 PM
When in reality everyone knows how things actually went down.
 
@Mana You got me most of my kills
 
That @Mana was actually pretty decent player
 
If I had of played scout things would have gone much worse
but I was in a medic mood for some reason
 
> Engineer -"The engineer lack thereof one arm (right) and he was hiding it under a rubber glove, but if you use The Gunslinger, we see that the hand of the engineer-like robot arm"
 
anyways bbl
 
3:43 PM
looks at all the flesh in his right hand
sigh. Still nothing anywhere engineer-like :/
 
@GraceNote you had a chance to play Dominion yet?
Can you use the Purity Fist with the Engineer to have two robotic hands?
 
@RavenDreamer My timing is horrible, so no
 
Or is that heavy only?
 
@RavenDreamer Heavy only.
 
heh, Purity Fist. It's a pun on Purity First, am I right?
 
3:44 PM
Dominion is active right now for another 15 minutes I think
 
@badp eh, what? :)
 
Like, Deus Ex? And then Sarif shows up and he's all like ADAM MY SOOOOON
because that is the most vivid memory I have of Deus Ex.
 
@CruelCow I don't see it if it is, but I may simply not know how to find it
 
Oh, by the way, it's been bugging me, what do the medals next to your names in the score screens mean?
 
@GraceNote Which region are you in?
 
3:46 PM
@CruelCow US
 
I've gotten MVP a few times before but have not had the #1 medal show up on the screen
 
Ah, I think it's in EU atm
 
@Mana Number of dominations you have on other people.
 
@RavenDreamer You're looking for the short circuit
 
@GraceNote It just shows up under available game types.
 
3:47 PM
@RavenDreamer That's what I had expected, so I guess, again, my luck is just terrible
 
btw @badp was it you that asked if I was on a touchpad? Cos I'm still not sure why someone asked me...? :/
 
@Wipqozn Dominations
 
@DMA57361 yes, it was me. At some points while watching you I had this impression
 
@RavenDreamer Yeah, seen powerlord's message.
 
@badp oh right... was I aiming strangely or something then?
 
3:48 PM
@DMA57361 nah
 
Touchpad usually means absolute pointing device.
 
Wouldn't that be more a tablet UI than a touchpad?
 
So, I ordered a new Gamepad, Mouse, and Keyboard yesterday. Hopefully they'll arrive sometime this week.
 
@ArdaXi a touchpad is one of those horrible square things that adorn most laptops and pretend to be a mouse...?
 
@DMA57361 Exactly, but touchpads function absolutely rather than relatively.
 
3:50 PM
@ArdaXi No touchpad I've ever used has had that benefit
 
A mouse tells the OS: "Move the mouse pointer 3 pixels left"
A touchpad tells the OS: "Move the mouse pointer to x,y."
 
@ArdaXi what?
no repro
 
I've had a car joystick do that, but never a laptop touchpad. They always operate relatively.
 
uhh, I don't recall ever using one that does that
 
I know, I find that strange as well. I'm talking technically.
At least, I've had a touchpad not recognised by an OS for this very reason.
 
3:51 PM
If all demonstrated touchpads are relative, then wouldn't that make them technically relative, not absolute?
 
Even though in use, it seems relative.
@GraceNote No, it makes them relative, from the user's perspective.
 
@Mana where are these caps?
 
It's funny how much the value of the Villain's Veil has fallen since its inclusion in Series 27 crates.
 
@MarcoCeppi C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\<username>\team fortress 2\tf\screenshots
 
@Valve: Please hurry up and add the second Misc slot to normal TF2.
 
3:55 PM
No, the ones from last night - or was Mana just looking at his collection?
 
@Powerlord Also, I checked, you can't wear more than one badge.
If you equip a badge in one slot, all badges are greyed out in the other.
 
@ArdaXi Interesting. So they are adding hidden groups.
 
oh, I got a crate in last night's match and the chance of me trading it with anyone else or buying a key is zero... does anyone want it? It's apparently Series 26, whatever that means :)
 
@DMA57361 Series #26 means it contains Medic items, as I recall.
 
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Q: Is possible to load a save file from a game of another region (PS3)?

Marcelo de Assis CostaI played Batman Arkhan Asylum(BLES) for a while, got almost all trophies(archievements), yesterday I bought the Collector's Edition(BLUS) and I noticed that I could not use the same save file I used before. I don't wanna to play the game from beginning right now, I just wanted to get every troph...

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Q: What's the data value ID for mossy stone brick and cracked stone brick?

WarfaceDo you guy know the ID for those twos ? Can't find it in the data value JPEG on wiki minecraft ...

 
3:57 PM
"This crate contains one of the following items:
Syringe Gun
Crusader's Crossbow
Bonesaw
Medi Gun
Gentleman's Gatsby
Otolaryngologist's Mirror
*or an Exceedingly Rare Special Item!*"
so yes
 
So 4 Strange Medic items or two of the worst Medic hats.
or an unusual hat, but those are exceedingly rare.
Personally, I think the Gatsby is the worst Medic hat.
The Otolaryngologist's Mirror... not too bad, I suppose. It definitely fits the class.
It just seems weird that Series #27 has the only Sniper Misc in the game, which is almost brand new, while Series #26 has two of the more unwanted Medic hats.
 
what I do know is that my first Engie crate was awesome
but it made a second Engie crate half as awesome
 
My Sniper crates have almost all been awesome.
 
the chances of something I didn't want went from like 2.5% to 52.5%
@Powerlord Sniper crates also were appealing except... I don't fucking play sniper
It should now be the class I play least, contending the spot with demo and heavy
 
@badp Well, for me they were awesome because my first two drops were an Unusual hat and a Villain's Veil.
Which is, btw, the only unusual I've ever unboxed.
 
4:04 PM
Yup. Sniper, 4.4 hours
 
(I traded for the other two)
Sniper is my third-most played class. Which is funny when you consider I rarely, if ever, use any of the Sniper Rifles.
 
(Heavy, 7.4; Demo, 11.1; Engie, 129.3; total, 356.1)
 
The problem is now, I've kinda been drifting to play offensive classes a bit more, but I've clocked so many hours in the game that only my bottom two really shift order.
(I've also been playing Scout less)
 
Heavy is the class I fourth third top points per life with
I blame payload
 
I've played 25 or so hours of Demoman in the past month or two.
Which brings Demoman up to... 51.6 hours.
It used to be my least played class, now Heavy is (at 27.9 hours)
 
4:08 PM
I was amused yesterday while playing TF2 beta
I wanted to try the Sydney Sleeper and the new loadout thing
so I joined any game and changed the loadout
"You have survived longer as Sniper than your previous best! 00:15 "
 
Yeah, beta uses different stats... and achievements.
Which is amusing since the first time you play any class you just get achievement after achievement.
 
btw you have 667 hours as spy and 321 as Engie
 
I kinda miss achievements, it's been forever since I got one
 
I clearly remember you telling us you mained engie
 
@badp Why would I ever say that?
I main Spy. I've always mained Spy.
 
4:11 PM
You probably were disguised as a friendly engie while you said that
 
good grief, you guys play a hell of a lot :/ I've only about got ~30hrs in Demo, my most played by a factor of ~3 IIRC
 
user30
woo game on tonight
 
user30
I haven't played tf2 in ages
 
@DMA57361 I've clocked 1636.16 hours in TF2.
 
4:15 PM
@Powerlord holy crap that's a lot
 
@GnomeSlice I love how you try to disguise the fact that it links to The Onion.
 
@Powerlord Pft.
 
user30
I have 600 hours on TF2, I think
 
Seems I have ~60hrs by adding up my class times or 86hrs according to Steam's headline bit... but do those count everything from the game's release? or am I right in thinking they started later?
 
user30
the headline bit includes all the time the game was open
 
user30
4:18 PM
stats only count the time you were in a match as a class
 
@ThomasMcDonald indeed, but steam didn't always do that, did it?
 
user30
I dunno
 
doesn't matter really
anyway, I've got to go and serve and eat some dinner. I'll bbl for tonight's game on
 
I'll note that the time I was quoting was on the TF2 stats page, not the Steam stats page. The Steam stats page includes the solid month I idled in 2009 when you could actually get boatloads of hats doing that.
 
user30
yeah, well I reset my stats about 200 hours in when they stopped working
 
user30
4:22 PM
:(
 
user30
anyway, got some work to do if i'm to play later, in a bit
 
I wish 2fort 24/7 servers didn't count towards achievements
btw in ~60 hours of playing as spy I still don't have Uberectomy
oh wait, that's a sniper achievement
Still... Sniper milestone 3 "easier" than Demoman milestone 1?
 
@badp I can agree with that.
Half of the demoman achievements require you to use the eyelander too, so if you either lack it or, well, don't play a demoknight you need to go out of your way to get them
 
@Wipqozn that explains why I got a ton of achievements in medieval mode
 
@badp: I assume you don't use the Ambassador as Spy, which is why you're still missing two achievements.
Also, Deep Undercover is the most difficult Spy achievement to get.
 
4:30 PM
Actually I lack 6
 
Because, one would hope a person would get a clue that there's a Spy in the area.
 
but yes, the ambassador achievements are still at 0 progress
except for the generic 'get kills' one
 
@badp The ones you don't have are Deep Undercover, the two counter-type achievements, and the 3 Ambassador achievements.
 
@Powerlord just play on one of the valve servers.
you should get it fairly quickly
assuming you already don't have it
 
I lack a lot of tauntkill achievements
 
4:32 PM
I can never remember what the taunt key is
 
I should play Scout on Arena and hope I get First Blood plus kill someone with it for the last First Blood, Part II kill.
@Wipqozn G by default.
 
Wow, I need Cortex Command to be finished.
Did any of you guys ever actually play it? It was part of the last humble indie bundle.
 
Man, all the talk about Ambassador reminded me how imba that thing was sniff
 
Beesh, I've missed a ton of new builds, apparently.
 
@GnomeSlice Yes, I played it for a good 5 minutes. Hated it.
 
4:35 PM
@ArdaXi ಠ_ಠ
 
It's the most unintuitive game I've ever played. And I've played Nethack.
 
I think it's great. It just runs really slowly. =[
 
> Researchers have discovered that if they eliminate a cholesterol membrane surrounding the virus, HIV cannot disrupt communication among disease-fighting cells and the immune system returns to normal.
 
oh right, I own that game.
 
So, wait, they discovered a cure for AIDS? :O
 
4:38 PM
And it has an excellent soundtrack. :O
 
@Powerlord That's fairly fantastic.
 
Now they just have to make sure it works properly.
 
@Powerlord A (possible) cure for HIV.
 
@Powerlord Link?
 
@Wipqozn Apparently there have been tons of new builds.
 
4:39 PM
@GnomeSlice I've never played it
It was a gift from (I think) @ArdaXi
 
@Wipqozn I gave you the entire bundle didn't I?
 
@Wipqozn Play it!
:O
 
@ArdaXi Number 2, yes. Cortex just happened to be one of the games.
 
4:40 PM
You're a very generous chap @ArdaXi
 
@Wipqozn ಠ_ಠ
Aug 7 at 15:18, by Arda Ξ
dangles vegetable in front of @GnomeSlice
 
Darn it. Where'd @GraceNote go? I had a thing to show himer
 
Aug 7 at 15:36, by GnomeSlice
@ArdaΞ Gimme back my fucking vegetable.
 
@GnomeSlice Who's that?
I'm Arda Xi, not Arda =
@RavenDreamer Schkler.
 
or schklim.
 
user30
4:50 PM
so, how long did you play for last night?
 
I played for 2 hours
 
@ThomasMcDonald it lasted the full 3 hours, although by the end of it there was only about 8 of us left
 
user30
alright, cheers
 
Should I uninstall the first build of Cortex Command before trying to set up the new one?
 

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