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7:01 PM
I still don't get why 24/7 servers change map every so often.
 
@ArdaXi No idea. The ones I've played on usually just set mp_timelimit 0 and just never end.
 
I played for a hour, got two drops
A dupe and a crate. Yey.
 
I want that new medic crossbow.
 
@failbadp It's trying to tell you that you should be an Ambassador to another country.
 
Oh man, Steam Guard now also applies to the browser
 
7:11 PM
But I don't have a spare huntsman :(
 
Wow, it really loves giving @badp Spy guns.
 
Heh, I also need a new Ambassador. I don't know where my old one went. I don't think I used it in crafting.
 
Wait a second, how did I get a series 7 crate? Those no longer drop according to the wiki.
 
@failbadp Series #7 crates were still dropping prior to Thursday last week.
Series #7-9 were... 10-12 were introduced during the Shogun update, or so I gather.
@failbadp Wow, 5 dupes already? That sucks.
 
Bob
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Q: Pokemon SoulSilver/HeartGold: What do "groups" do?

ZenoIn the Pokemon School, you can create a group and other players can join. I created and some friends of mine joined. The NPC says something about syncing events. What does being in a group do? What kind of things does it sync?

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Q: Trying to find an Adventure/Puzzle game, mid 90's, Clay Animation

OzmahWhile trying to find a certain game from the 90's from another question, I remembered a long lost game from the mid 90's, I played it in a demo coming from a CD in a PC magazine and after that I simply lost track of it, never played it again but never had the chance to really play it. The game i...

 
7:15 PM
Oh yay, a claidhaemh something.
 
@Bob Does this question mention the main characters being a human woman and a lizard man?
Sucks having Gaming blocked from work. :|
@ArdaXi The sword that gives you extra charge time as Demo?
 
@Powerlord Yeah.
 
At first that doesn't sound useful, but it's more useful than you'd think, because people aren't expecting it. :D
"Oh, he'll stop charging outside my range. Wait, wtf?"
 
@Powerlord But I have a half-zaitoichi
 
@ArdaXi There is that...
I get the nasty feeling that the Half-Zaitoichi will be nerfed at some point. :/
Oh, btw, I saw in the TF2 beta notes that there's a koth_badlands map in Beta. Don't be surprised if we eventually see that in normal TF2.
 
7:19 PM
The fact that you can be one-shot by people with a Half-Zaitoichi is not as bad since you can one-shot people with a Half-Zaitoichi.
Gah. Why can't I find a weapon I want? :(
 
@ArdaXi Too bad you didn't ask yesterday when I had tons of extra crud in my inventory. :/
I know I had a Huntsman, and I'm pretty sure I had two (in addition to the one I use)
 
Already traded one.
 
Oh... which weapon are you looking for now?
 
Hmm. I thought I had a rec somewhere.
 
I'm confused. Are you guys in game or not?
 
7:27 PM
@Powerlord Still the Crusader
@oraclecertifiedprofessional I am.
 
@oraclecertifiedprofessional Nope, I'm at work.
 
@ArdaXi but you alt-tab out to get on chat?
 
@oraclecertifiedprofessional No, I have two monitors.
I just press escape and mouse over to the other window.
 
my god that is such an awesome idea
 
Must have it set to fake fullscreen mode...
 
7:28 PM
Yeah.
 
-sw -noborder or whatever it was.
 
That's the one two.
 
I used to do fake fullscreen on some games, but I noticed a performance drop.
Although I have noticed in World of Warcraft that font rendering is considerably better in fake fullscreen than in real fullscreen.
 
Gah, I have no metal. :(
 
@Powerlord I haven't really noticed a difference.
In font rendering that is.
Performance, yeah, sometimes
 
7:30 PM
@Brant I'm using Windows 7. I don't know if that makes a difference or not.
 
The performance bottleneck in WoW is usually memory though.
 
Win7 in 1920x1200 on a 24" monitor.
 
Friggin' stormwind.
I'm tempted to level up engineering solely so I can make the "x-ray specs" trinket that removes everyone's armor just so it will increase loading times when wandering near the general region of the auction house
 
@ArdaXi: Hey, are we using your HL2MP server tomorrow or what?
 
@Powerlord Fine by me.
 
7:31 PM
@ArdaXi still, don't you get shot in the back while you're typing?
 
So long as your ping is sufficient.
 
@ArdaXi @Powerlord Are you going to do a dedicated TF2 server?
That would be sweet.
 
HL2DM this time.
 
@ArdaXi Awwwww.
 
We're doing HL2DM every third week, which is... tomorrow.
 
7:32 PM
But it's really the difference between ./tf.sh and ./hl2dm.sh
I can put up a TF2 server now, even.
 
As for TF2, we'd been joining a random server.
 
i've not played it, is it team deathmatch or all-for-self?
 
I mean, I still have a private TF2 server running for Game On!, we just don't use it.
 
If I get around to it I'll friend request and maybe play a few games this weekend.
 
@oraclecertifiedprofessional We've been doing all-for-self rather than teams... although apparently teams is just a cvar.
 
7:33 PM
@SadlyNot I've already friend-requested you.
 
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Q: Is there an updated Cataclysm flight path/travel map anywhere?

BrantI've been searching for a map of griffin/boat/zeppelin travel routes for Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms that has been updated since Cataclysm, but all I've found using Google are out-of-date maps from years ago. I'm particularly interested in Alliance routes, but a complete map for both factions ...

 
@ArdaXi Oh, I'm at work though so I didn't bother checking.
 
Somebody draw a fancy diagram for this so I can give you a measly 50-point bounty.
 
@Powerlord ah, I am going to get owned
 
May I suggest ping ardaxi.com before-hand to see if your connection isn't horrible?
 
7:34 PM
@Brant Didn't one get posted in the Horde Progression through the new Azeroth question? Or maybe I'm mistaken.
 
i prefer it when my teammates get shot while I hide in a corner
 
@ArdaXi My connection is always horrible. Granted, I had a distinct advantage when I was hosting the server because it was in western US and most everyone else was from Europe. ;)
 
(which is why I got kicked out the army)
 
HL2DM is too hard for me :) I don't understand how to kill things.
 
@Powerlord Precisely why I'm offering. :P
@SadlyNot You get weapons. You fire them at your opponents.
 
7:36 PM
In COD4 it's bang and dead and that's the only thing that makes sense to me.
@ArdaXi But all of the weapons are wussy except the crossbow, grenades, rpg, and gravity gun.
 
I'd still like to try a grav-gun only thing tomorrow.
 
crossbow and rpg always get taken.
and too many people are good at tossing nades with the gravity gun, much better than I care to become.
This HL2DM is dead to me.
 
@ArdaXi That's largely why we played European TF2 matches last time. It's funny, I was getting a better connection to one of those than I was to Reddit Great Lakes TF2 later that day, and that's really close to me.
 
@ArdaXi Epic ping-pong.
 
HL2DM is a fun game. Just mindless, strategy-less killing.
 
7:37 PM
@ArdaXi HLDM was a little better because weapons hurt a lot.
And it was just as mindless.
 
@SadlyNot I suck at tossing grenades with gravity gun.
 
Also, long-jump and egon/gauss.
 
Why are you all at work :/
 
@ArdaXi Money.
Does anyone remember the egon?
 
Heh. I'm not working tomorrow either. I am getting paid, though.
@SadlyNot Which was that?
 
7:38 PM
The ghostbuster gun.
 
@Brant got it lol.
 
Ah, gluon
 
It was all BZZRRPHEEWW
 
Looked like a flamethrower and has blue swirly stuff.
 
@ArdaXi: I found some HL2MP maps and put them on files.ocrtf2.com/hl2mp/maps but they may need the files from the materials directory too. dm_avalon in particular is apparently highly recommended, but wasn't included in the game because it placed fourth in Valve's community mapping contest.
 
7:39 PM
@ArdaXi It's called egon in the console.
 
The top 3 from said contest were added to the game.
 
@ArdaXi touche.
 
@ArdaXi It's like 3:40pm where I am.
I work 9a-4:30p today.
 
20:40 here.
 
7:40 PM
@Powerlord That's short. :(
 
I didn't realize it was friday until an hour ago.
 
@SadlyNot It's usually 9a-5:30p but I don't like working late on Fridays, and I'm not a full time employee. :P
 
No one dare sing that song.
@Powerlord Okay makes sense.
 
starts humming
 
Plus, my hours were due at noon and said I'm only working 7 hours today. Originally, we were going to do some gaming after work, but that's been delayed.
 
7:41 PM
Rebecca Black, eat your heart out. Seriously. Do it.
 
er... I saw we... that was myself and some coworkers.
 
@Powerlord Where do you work out of curiosity?
 
@SadlyNot State of Michigan.
 
@ArdaXi
The weapon is sometimes called the "Egon gun", as many of the game files refer to it as such. It bears a strong similarity to the Proton Packs used by characters from the 1984 film Ghostbusters. One of the main characters is a scientist named Egon Spengler, hence the name used within the game files.
 
@Powerlord How unspecific of you.
@SadlyNot I know. It's still called the Gluon Gun.
 
7:43 PM
Grr how do i quote that?
 
@SadlyNot (You have to reply using the :<id> format for > to work)
 
@ArdaXi Center for Shared Solutions and Technology Partnerships, Department of Technology, Management and Budget, State of Michigan. 10th floor, 111 S. Capitol Ave, Lansing, MI 48933 USA. Is that more specific?
 
Whatever lol
@Powerlord That is better :)
 
@Powerlord 'T was a joke. I suck at them. Just ask @Mana.
 
@ArdaXi We could ask @failbadp
 
7:46 PM
@ArdaXi: Oh yeah, if you do put any of the maps from that directory on your server, make sure you don't take the ones from the bad or old directories. ;)
 
Haha, imgur is down imgur.com/a/B5WkP
 
Can't you just tar.gz a package I can unpack or summit?
 
We should bother them by spamming more images.
 
@ArdaXi Probably, but I don't have an SSH terminal here to do it from... it'll have to wait until I'm at home.
 
Aww.
Isn't there a HTML5 SSH client yet?
 
7:47 PM
@Powerlord Do you have an iPhone?
 
@SadlyNot No.
 
@SadlyNot Oh that's just cruel.
 
@Powerlord Damn.
 
Besides, I leave in less than an hour.
Besides, Arda's only 5 hours ahead of me now instead of 6 thanks to the idiotic "lets move DST earlier!!!1111" thing Darth Bush got passed into law.
 
My friend woke up in the middle of the night and was looking around for something but he didn't want to find a flashlight. So he pulled out his iPhone and downloaded a flashlight app.
 
7:48 PM
I just turn up the brightness on my DS.
 
Resourceful.
 
Since I tend to play DS games before going to sleep (Mmm, Sudoku is great for that)
Bleah, went to talk to one of my coworkers, and it looks like she already left.
Figures, her calendar says she's here until 16:00 and it's 15:53 but she left already.
 
@Powerlord UNACCEPTABLE
 
@failbadp Well, she asked me to forward an email to her earlier, but never responded once I did, so I went to see if she actually saw it.
 
Why does it have to be two class weapons :(
 
8:04 PM
@ArdaXi It USED to be 3.
 
Fair enough.
 
Besides, I thought it took more than a scrap metal to make what you want
 
And a huntsman
 
Well, this is an interesting spam... "Post By Rosemary O'Neill: Your first day as a community manager"
I thought it was a reclaimed metal, not a scrap metal.
 
2 scrap + Huntsman
If only the Frying Pan could be smelted.
 
user30
8:07 PM
Frying Pan is a good annoying weapon, because it's so damn loud
 
@ThomasMcDonald Too bad it's functionally the same as the Bottle.
 
user30
@Powerlord Exactly.
 
@Powerlord Or the shovel.
 
Oh yeah, it's also a Soldier weapon.
I forgot.
Then again, 99% of Soldiers (or something like that) use the Equalizer because of how OP it is.
TF2Stats likely has the exact stat.
 
I don't because I don't have it :P
I don't think I'd use it if I had it either
but then again, I use that medic gun that trades heals on hit for "natural" heal rate
 
8:10 PM
60.52% equip
 
@Powerlord 60%
 
It's fun backsyringing heavies
 
@failbadp Blutsauger?
 
I think that one yes.
 
I think I prefer the higher normal heal rate.
Which gets even higher if you equip the Crusader's Crossbow and Amputator.
 
8:11 PM
Hm, I wasn't aware the Blutsauger dropped heal rate
 
@failbadp It drops your self-heal rate.
 
Oh, okay, that rate.
 
-2 health drained per second on wearer
 
@ArdaXi Yes, but considering it's +3 health per second normally (goes up if you haven't been hit for a while)...
 
Dunno, I prefer being able to syringe-heal when on fire, rather than helplessly wait it out sucking my thumb
 
8:12 PM
All heal rates go up if the person being healed hasn't been hit in the last 5 seconds or so.
@failbadp You can pick up health packs to put out fire.
 
In the rare case there's one nearby
 
Also, +3 heal rate versus 5 damage per second means you're only taking 2 points per second... and that's assuming they aren't using the degreaser flamethrower which drops that damage amount per second.
 
um, 5 damage per hit; the syringe gun fires much faster than that
 
@failbadp But it's useless if there are no enemies around.
 
The regular syringe gun sucks.
 
8:14 PM
@Powerlord Then I'm not on fire
Dunno, in general I have trouble against pyros. Especially as pyro.
 
@failbadp Yeah, I meant if you or your teammates killed the pyro.
Blutsauger tends to be good against Pyro, bad against everything else IMO.
Crusader's Crossbow is bad in general unless you have really good aim.
(because it reloads so slowly)
 
Not on degroot
 
@ArdaXi Well, of course... it's the only ranged weapon you have as Medic in degroot.
 
degroot?
 
Likewise, the Amputator is useful there, as you can taunt to heal your allies.
@failbadp cp_degrootkeep... the medieval map.
 
8:17 PM
Never seen
 
The one which restricts to melee weapon and bows.
 
It's awesome. Join me.
 
It's awesome! :D
 
user30
It's horrible.
 
Can't right now
Will need to wait ~30 mins
 
8:18 PM
Spies are so overpowered on Degroot Keep. :P
 
After I upgrade my VPS, I think I'll set up a 24/7 medieval server.
 
@Powerlord oh lord, that's awful.
 
@failbadp Not if you're a medic with the Crusader's Crossbow!
 
I completely suck at melee and sniping ain't my game
 
Keep in mind that the Crusader's Crossbow heals your allies if you shoot them.
 
8:19 PM
The only useful melee weapon I use are the gloves of running hurgently, followed by a medkit and a switch to the chaingun
 
It's also the only weapon in the game that does more damage to enemies the farther it travels.
@failbadp There are other... interesting... melee weapons.
Ignoring the Spy knives for the moment (which all have instant-kill backstabs)...
 
The volcano fragment
 
The Engineer has the Gunslinger. Changes his sentry-gun in the build panel to a mini-sentry that uses 100 metal and builds in 4 seconds, but can't be upgraded or repaired.
(Engineer starts with 200 metal and gets more from ammo boxes/dispenser/dropped weapons)
It also crit hits if you connect with 3 punches in a row.
It's always amusing punching a Heavy to death as an Engineer. :D
Oh right, it also ups the Engineer's health by 25.
Lets see... other fun melee weapons... Well, the Demoman has the Chargin' Targe Shield, which lets him run towards people and do mini-crits/crits with melee weapons.
Which goes well with: The Eyelander (Demoman increases speed the more kills with it he gets), the Half-Zoitoichi (Demoman heals to full with each kill), the Ullapool Caber (explodes the first time you hit someone with it)...
Ullapool Caber is a one-hit kill on all the 125 HP classes, btw.
But only on the first hit. After that, it does less damage until you go back to spawn./
 
DAMN IT! I was trying to set a new record for longest monologue!
Fists of Steel (Heavy) - Reduces damage from non-melee weapons, increases damage from melee weapons as long as it's out.
 
8:26 PM
I think you need to beat @tzenes for that.
 
Fists of Steel also means you can't be killed by a single headshot. :D
Equalizer (Soldier): The less health you have, the more damage you do and the faster you move. A 1 health Soldier literally moves faster than Scout does.
Hmm... any other fun melee weapons that you guys can think of?
 
Boston Basher is fun. Especially if you're masochistic.
 
Oh, oh, Axtinguisher (Pyro), does crits to players on fire, half damage to players not on fire.
 
And as I said, the Sharpened Volcano Fragment
 
@ArdaXi Yeah, I haven't tried that one yet. I think it'd be great on degroot, though.
 
8:29 PM
@Powerlord Don't forget it hurts yourself too.
 
Of course, on degroot, the KGB is useful. Crits for 5 seconds after a kill, but they're 25% slower than the fists.
 
The volcano's a really nice weapon. Completely useless on tf_medieval 0 servers though.
 
nm, I misread that.
The caber, on the other hand, is useless on medieval servers.
 
I just got a caber.
 
The Half-Zoitoichi is the best Demo weapon on medieval.
Seriously, you get healed to full on every kill?
 
8:31 PM
Quick. Start discussing the crossbow.
 
The crossbow's increased heal rate is nice.
Well, when combined with the Amputator.
 
@Powerlord The only problem with it is, everyone has it.
 
@ArdaXi Yes, and one hit kills tend to favor whomever has better ping.
The Skullcutter is really good on medieval too, if you want to play with something different. :P
Oh wait, time for me to leave for home.
 
Bob
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Q: Behavior of a JK flip-flop (Minecraft Redstone circuit)?

CyclopsI've built a JK flipflop - specifically, the A version, from Redstone JK flip-flops - and it works - sort of. It doesn't behave as described in the wiki, and I'm not sure if the wiki description is wrong, or if I built something wrong - or maybe the Beta release changed something. The wiki says ...

 
Be back in a bit.
 
8:33 PM
The fragment is useless on pyros :(
One more scrap metal is required for my plans.
 
Did the reputation graph on user pages completely go away?
 
Objective completed.
 
@sjohnston Yeah. Word Of God says it was old, crusty code that didn't work in a lot of edge cases.
There's a userscript somewhere on apps.SE that replaces it.
 
8:48 PM
Yeah, I'm finding that out right now on MSO
 
Bob
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Q: Android Tower Defense (Most Like Desktop TD)

BKaylorHi! I'm looking for a game on the Android Market that is considered to be the most like Desktop Tower Defense Pro. http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/Game.asp

 
Seems like DevTeam is really cranking out the updates lately
or at least more highly visible ones
 
@sjohnston They're definitely set on keeping us unhappy.
 
@Powerlord Yeah, I own that one
I think I switched back to regular sentries however
 
@ArdaXi The only thing that really bugs me about the updates is when someone starts up a complaint thread on meta, gets a bunch of upvotes, and the official response is "Everybody hated that feature anyway."
 
8:53 PM
Exactly.
Just say "We don't care what you think" not "We really care what you think. This is what you think:"
 
Somebody doesn't like my Angry Bird answers, lol.
 
Or Angry Birds.
 
Must've been the green pigs.
 
I still think that game is some kind of anti-communism thing.
 
Their mocking smiles are infuriating
@ArdaXi You're thinking of Animal Farm
 
9:05 PM
@sjohnston I know
 
Great. Now where did I leave my bleach-filled eyewash?
 
Aww, dueling pistols are the only thing I can only get by buying/trading/drop :(
 
When is @Powerlord coming back? He knows everything about TF2...
 
so the medieval map is plain unadulterated failure
it's just one-kill-100%-heal katana spam
 
@failbadp No, it isn't, you just don't like it. :)
 
9:43 PM
@ArdaXi No, it's failure because the entire class system becomes unbalanced as hell
and the entire item system becomes unbalanced as hell
 
@failbadp So? You're playing TF2.5 What do you expect?
 
Being useful instead of spamming on the mouse when in the general neighbourhood of other players
 
@Bob I don't know which is the most like that one (never played it), but Robo Defense is great. market.android.com/details?id=com.magicwach.rdefense_free
@LessPop_MoreFizz Hahaha, I own the t-shirt of that! ( it's from marriedtothesea.com )
 
@failbadp You probably shouldn't play on a 24/7 Medieval server. It's a nice distraction from normal modes, though.
 
@ardaxi @failbadp it must be bad cos I seem to be doing ok :)
 
10:11 PM
@ArdaXi Did you have a question?
 
What does 'bonus' mean in the scoreboard? (This is actually @fail's)
 
It has never been completely clear. I know you get bonus points for doing things like beaning people with baseballs as Scout.
Hitting people with Jarate/Mad Milk likely does as well.
 
So just 'stuff that is beneficial to your team'
 
Basically.
 
Hmm, I should find a plugin for HL2DM before tomorrow.
 
10:15 PM
@ArdaXi For gravity gun only?
 
Yeah
Alternatively, I'll write one.
 
10:32 PM
Something like this /could/ work, but then I need all the names.
Jackpot. That shouldn't be hard to modify.
#define WEAPON_MAG "weapon_357" //Nope, definitely not.
 
The server should have a list of which weapons have which names internally.
 
It's weapon_physcannon
 
Ubuntu has kernel updates WAY too often.
 
Hmm, mapchooser_extended does not work at all on HL2DM
 
@ArdaXi ? I was using it on mine just fine.
 
10:43 PM
After a mapchange, it immediately asks for votes
Meaning I'm the only one who gets to vote.
 
Granted, the map vote window requires you to hit esc for it to appear or something stupid
@ArdaXi Weird... what are its settings.
 
Default.
 
What's mp_timelimit set to on the server?
As I recall, mapchooser extended defaults to holding a vote 10 minutes before the map ends.
 
Err... I thought it was... ah.
I think it was 10, yes.
 
Might want to bump up the timelimit or bump down the time left before it starts the vote.
 
10:45 PM
Yeah, the timelimit is higher now
Yay! It works! No more weapons.
So, no more RPG noobs or that kind.
 
@ArdaXi Are you insulting one of the Toms? :O
 
Oh, and @Powerlord, just tell me which maps I should download.
 
@ArdaXi Let me double check that all the ones there are the ones that were working. I removed a whole bunch on my server, wanna make sure they match.
 
Gah, last time, many people joined.
 
Or I could just tar.gz them for you.
 
10:49 PM
Now, not one. Walking around on your own is boring.
@Powerlord Either that or just the links to the raw bsps.
 
Oh yeah, don't download any yet. I'm about to reboot the machine that those files are stored on for a kernel update.
 
I'll wait.
 
prison_grav might be interesting... it's intended to be used with the grav gun
Crap... I need to include the materials directory for this stuff, too,.
 
I might just put mp_timelimit on 0 and enable the rtv and nominate plugins. Does nominate work together with mapchooser_extended?
 
@ArdaXi Yes.
btw, the default config for Mapchooser Extended won't play the right sounds for the countdown on hl2mp
I might need to send you the new config for that, too.
Mapchooser Extended's configuration works great on TF2, but it references non-existing sound files on everything else.
 

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