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We're a week into Winter Bash 2015, and a lot of secret hats have been found. How do you get these secret hats for yourself? Well, figuring that out is half the fun! I mean, you could be boring and just cheat off other people's work, but nuts to that, I say. There's nothing worse than a cheaty ch...

Seth

My other thought is that it is about the dress meme and the color is awarded randomly for post or vote on solstice. Did anyone guess that?

Kit Z. Fox

Yes, it must be about the dress meme, but also because day/night.

So they go together.

@Pops Oh thanks!

Seth

@Pops Can the triggers work with local time?

David

5:52 PM

@Pops AWESOME!

Kit Z. Fox

> It's actually just one ~~dress~~ hat, which will become more obvious in better lighting.

See? Solstice.

Hosch250

@Seth I guessed it is based on whether the time tick of the vote/post.

Kit Z. Fox

Unless you live in the Southern Hemi, in which case it is worse lighting, but I'm not going to nitpick.

David

does anybody have both flipflop hats?

Hosch250

Pomare 1: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C5%8Dmare_I

Tahiti 1791.

Probably Cleanup Squad: It's not garbage until it's served its purpose.

Pops

5:55 PM

@KitZ.Fox I decided since we're already calling the event Winter Bash, might as well double down.

Sorry again, southerners!

Kit Z. Fox

@Hosch250 So for that one, you need to get tuberculosis. I think I'll skip that.

Hosch250

Me too :P

Hey, Shog9 posted an answer! meta.codereview.stackexchange.com/a/6366/34073

Pops

@KitZ.Fox I thought you were dedicated. I'm really disappointed in you.

Kit Z. Fox

@Pops Oh wait, that's when he abdicated. So you want me to trade my diamond for a hat? Think again, mister.

Pops

Actually, I know someone who just recovered from TB treatment, and by all indications it was officially no fun at all, so, no blame there, please don't actually go get the consumption for a hat (or any reason).

Hosch250

5:59 PM

@Pops Hope they don't get it again, I've heard it can be tricky to completely cure.

Abdication - lose the accepted answer?

Mat's Mug

in The 2nd Monitor, 42 secs ago, by skiwi

So hard to tell if something is funny/serious or not at first glance when another room doesn't use stars

Kit Z. Fox

@Hosch250 No, it's the Edward Edwards hat reference.

I mean, I think.

Maybe.

It's the right time period.

Hosch250

Oh, maybe.

Kit Z. Fox

Yes, Wikipedia confirms that is where the mutineers ended up.

Hosch250

Did they land in Tahiti?

Arthur Fischer

6:01 PM

@Pops Thanks for the tub.

In 1791.

Oh, OK.

So.

Ah.

That doesn't tell us anything more than we already knew.

Kit Z. Fox

Well, let's work through them?

First one is Archimedes.

What's the next one?

Seth

6:02 PM

@Pops Is cleanup crew for deleting a comment on a post with an upvoted answer?

and, if that's not it try s/upvoted/accepted/.

Hosch250

> What if Mjolnir were made of gold? - Odinson.

Fabby

@David I do...

Hosch250

@Pops Can we edit the question to post the name of the hat by the hint after we figure it out?

Kit Z. Fox

@Fabby On the same account.

Hosch250

Famous female Admiral: Not the admiral's most important work, but her most famous.

Kit Z. Fox

6:03 PM

@Hosch250 That's Grace Hopper, the Amazing Grace hat.

Fabby

I think it might be turning a downvote into an upvote, but am unsure @David CC@Seth

Hosch250

Ah.

Pops

@Hosch250 No... actually I'll just lock it now.

David

@Fabby you do? I can only see the blue one.

Fabby

@David Isn't that what you were after?

David

6:06 PM

@Fabby I'm looking for a example where one user hat "both" flip flop hats

Hosch250

Flip Flop on Meta.

Definitely a single vote on Solstice is the trigger.

Fabby

@David Ah!

Sorry then...

X-27

Seriously? All you need to do is "Vote up a question or answer on the winter solstice?"

David

@Hosch250 sure looks it (already sent that to pops)

Kit Z. Fox

@X-27 Could be a downvote.

Fabby

6:07 PM

Does anyone know that the onion hat is?

Hosch250

I know, and Kit Z. Fox is the one who thought of it, AFAIK.

@Fabby Nope.

It is a reference to Final Fantasy or Game of Thrones.

X-27

well, I'm going to peg down the exact trigger and get a tub.

Hosch250

@Pops Next year, let's have the hats be based on well-known (open source?) software.

Kit Z. Fox

@Hosch250 You're sure it is that and not GoT?

Hosch250

I want a Rubberduck hat.

@KitZ.Fox Pretty sure, but not quite.

Kit Z. Fox

6:09 PM

You get the Onion Helm from the Yellow Dragon. What do you suppose that symbolizes?

Pops

@Hosch250 I'm sure they'll really appreciate that on Seasoned Advice and Bicycles.

Kit Z. Fox

The Yellow Dragon's spell is Silence.

X-27

@Pops it is, "cast two votes, on the winter solstice, on a question or answer"

Hosch250

@X-27 Wrong.

X-27

for the flip flop hat -

wrong?

Hosch250

6:10 PM

I cast one vote on Meta, and got it.

X-27

ok, so it is only one.

Hosch250

I think a punny title about "properties" and realtors won't go for an Encapsulating Field refactoring.

X-27

@pops "vote, comment or post a question or answer on December 21st (UTC)"

Hosch250

Or a post.

X-27

true- haven't tried that

Kit Z. Fox

6:12 PM

So I lined up all the hats with their hints.

And now I can figure out -- nothing that I hadn't figured out already.

2

headdesk

What is it about hats that plagues me so?

Hosch250

@X-27 Someone verified it.

Seth

@KitZ.Fox Pops not replying to your guesses?

Pops

Sorry. I had to go light on the first round of hints for the people who care a little but aren't hanging out in chat all day thinking about hats. (I know, I know, but we have to love them too.)

Kit Z. Fox

@Seth omfg totally forgot he's the hat guru.

Seth

@KitZ.Fox that's what good hints are made of.

@Pops like me? :p

Hosch250

6:14 PM

> The Realtor-duck: Encapsulating Fields with Properties

Pops

@Seth Based on "And now I can figure out -- nothing that I hadn't figured out already." I was counting you among the experts.

X-27

animated gif of head-desking

Seth

@Pops Well since I've spent maybe two hours total hunting hats since WB started I guess that's a compliment ;p

Pops

@X-27 I don't think this is communicating what you want it to communicate. All I'm thinking now is "what is that chair and how can I get one?"

Hosch250

@Pops Looks like a wheel chair with a motor.

Kit Z. Fox

6:20 PM

Looks like a Mars rover with a seat and some handles.

Hosch250

Those controls look exactly like riding lawn mower controls.

Kit Z. Fox

Hey, TIL that the Flying Tigers eventually became Federal Express. Interesting, huh?

David

@Pops sent a email about the hat hints.

Hosch250

The Flying Tigers are FedEx?

I thought they were re-incorporated back into the USAF when the US finally got to China.

(Or was it when the US joined the war?)

Kit Z. Fox

6:35 PM

After WWII, the service unit ran cargo for the Korean War, then in the 80s, the fleet was sold to FedEx, if I read/recall what I just read correctly.

David

@Pops did I just have Sun Wukong and Onion Knight flipped?

Pops

No.

David

hmm. ok thanks

Fabby

Flip flop guess: white is on meta, blue is anywhere else? @David

(seems to fit with the sample of 3 I have)

David

@Fabby dont think so. it seams completely random. I wont be surprised at all if is changes too.

Fabby

6:44 PM

Ah!

Eran

That's a surprise

@pops thanks

Bhargav Rao

7:15 PM

Did anybody match the hints and hats?

Hosch250

@BhargavRao Yeah, but Pops said not to post them on the question.

Bhargav Rao

Oh, Not even in chat room? Then I'll hafta keep my work to myself.

Eran

Matching the hints and the hats doesn't always tell you how the hats can be won

Bhargav Rao

Yep. True

@Eran Nice tub :) (For guessing which one?)

Eran

@BhargavRao Thanks. I was very surprised. I'm assuming I got it for Flip-Flop

Kit Z. Fox

7:18 PM

I think I should get Archimedes for guessing that there would be a hat for guessing a secret hat. As a matter of fact, I should probably get that hat every year.

Hosch250

Archimedes is no longer secret. They should just put it in the public list.

Bhargav Rao

Onion Knight is yet to be cracked?

Hosch250

Yes.

Bhargav Rao

All the theories have been proven false? sigh, need a new theory

Lol, I think it is "Ask a question that increases your people reached" :P

Kit Z. Fox

I thought about that. A question that expands your influence.

Then I thought, maybe it is a question that expands the answerer's influence.

Bhargav Rao

7:31 PM

I got mine on a self answer.

Kit Z. Fox

That doesn't disqualify that as a theory.

Bhargav Rao

Yeah.

Another thing I can think of apart from HNQ is the 10k tools.

There were 2 questions (after WB began) there and both got the onion hat.

Kit Z. Fox

Layers.

We don't have one on EL&U, so I can't look at stuff like that.

Bhargav Rao

Onion has layers, 10k tools has layers

Kit Z. Fox

Right.

So what would it be? A disputed result?

Bhargav Rao

7:37 PM

I would go with "Ask a question during WB that makes it to the 10k tools under Most Viewed section"

Kit Z. Fox

I don't know what that means.

Bhargav Rao

There is a most viewed section in the 10k tools page.

Pops is here?

Kit Z. Fox

Huh. Either I can't see it or I don't know where to look for that.

Bhargav Rao

/tools of the site

E.g stackoverflow.com/tools

Ok... Got the 3rd question with onion knight from that section.

On Stackoverflow --- 3 Onion Knights all 3 of them with the most views on that particular day. 14th 15th 17th

Pops

Making a post that decreases your influence... now that would be an achievement. But not one we'd want to encourage.

Bhargav Rao

7:48 PM

Ah @Pops you here..

For the Onion Knight - "Ask a question with the most views in a given day"

Atleast nearer?

Hosch250

And maybe not the first day it was posted?

@BhargavRao It would seem, though, that there would be a lot more of them.

And there were several given out to a site on a given day.

Particularly, two on Mathematics the very first day.

Pops

Sorry, that guess does not qualify for Archimedes.

Bhargav Rao

Hmmm... But the trend on SO was that. :/

Damn I need to join more sites and make rep on others.

It is really hard to guess sitting on a single site. It is like predicting the next number in a series consisting of 1 number.

HATMAN

I found that too

I have almost 11k on my home site, and no more than 400 on any others

Kit Z. Fox

I still think Amazing Grace ought have included a stipulation that the screenshot have hand-drawn circles. @Pops. Next year, mebbe?

Bhargav Rao

8:01 PM

Next year I am predicting that there'll be a "Pops Revenge" hat. :D

Kit Z. Fox

Next year there will be one hat. It will be a secret hat, but it will not be awarded for guessing a secret hat except insofar as you can do the thing you guessed you had to do to get it.

Bhargav Rao

@Hosch250 That's interesting ... 2 within 8 minutes.

Hosch250

@KitZ.Fox Upvote one post posted before WB.

Kit Z. Fox

@BhargavRao Some kind of hat farming artifact maybe.

Hosch250

I can get that hat with a 100% guarantee.

Bhargav Rao

8:03 PM

Anyone here with 10k on MathSE?

Kit Z. Fox

@Hosch250 Upvote one of Pops's posts before WB that is not tagged with winterbash.

Hosch250

I've got 10k on CR.

I want Amazing Grace on CR:

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Q: Capitalization Bug in Title Prompt

The title prompt has a capitalization bug: That should be "State the ...", with a capital "S".

bug status-completed design

Bhargav Rao

@Hosch250 Asking for upvotes? :P

Hosch250

Yes. It is meta, so it doesn't benefit me any.

Bhargav Rao

I wanted downvotes on meta. When I put it on my profile about me, I got 3 upvotes.

Hosch250

8:05 PM

Shog9's answer needs 7. Mine needs 4.

I'll go DV you if I can, if you upvote me, if you can.

Bhargav Rao

Lol... I can't coz I don't have an account

Hosch250

Unless it is Meta.SE, because that has rep.

You can create one.

Bhargav Rao

Nah, MetaSO. Anyway, I'll wait for people to DV it.

WB is there for another week.

Hosch250

I can go DV.

Bhargav Rao

Thanks

Hosch250

8:08 PM

DV applied.

Bhargav Rao

What has WB done to me? I am asking for people to downvote me!

Also @Hosch250 you can add these two 1 2 to your list.

Hosch250

Sure.

Are you sure it is those questions?

Oh, OK.

Bhargav Rao

1 - The only one in WB

2 - Only positive one in WB

Hosch250

I need to earn a gold badge.

Bhargav Rao

That's easiest of them all

Hosch250

8:16 PM

Actually, I'm nowhere close.

I have got a few silver badges and lots of bronze badges.

Bhargav Rao

More Questions -> More Bronzes

Hosch250

175 posts to edit - spam the front page an get Archaeologist at the same time?

HATMAN

@Hosch250 I do too

Hosch250

4x questions until the 100 Q's.

Not 4x days left in WB, and I'll probably earn it before next WB.

Bhargav Rao

Lol...

Hosch250

8:19 PM

I'd need to cap 142 times to get the gold cap badge.

At the rate of 8/year, that'll be a while.

However, I am capping more often now that I know more.

I'm halfway to the C# silver badge votewise, not quite answerwise.

I don't think I have a chance.

Bhargav Rao

I got the Hat Trick on the 3rd day.

@Hosch250 Badge called "Publicist".

Hosch250

I don't even have the bronze one for that.

Bhargav Rao

Easiest and toughest at the same time.

Hosch250

I don't have a big social media connection.

Malachi

I just got Flip Flop

Bhargav Rao

8:21 PM

@Malachi Nice :)

Hosch250

There should be a gold badge for giving out 100 bounties and staying above 25k.

The silver one can be after the 25'th bounty.

Bhargav Rao

@Hosch250 Asked on MSO meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/307772/…

Hosch250

That isn't MSE.

Bhargav Rao

MSO - Meta Stack Overflow

Hosch250

I know. MSE - Meta Stack Exchange.

Bhargav Rao

8:27 PM

Lol, yeah. I meant the question was asked on MSO and not MSE

Hosch250

That's what I meant too.

Bhargav Rao

Oh nice. Some confusion there.

Well guess tis time. Going to bed hoping eran won't get 4 more hats overnight ;)

Hosch250

Night.

Eran

@BhargavRao You know, since the total number of hats is a constant, it makes no difference if I get those hats tonight or 10 days from now :)

HATMAN

yep

Bhargav Rao

8:32 PM

@Eran Lol... I still feel that this time I may give you a strong competition for the 1st place

Eran

@BhargavRao I never got first place in Winter Bash, and I don't expect to get it this time either.

Bhargav Rao

@Eran Last time it was Martijn, but this time he's not taking it seriously as he's busy with mod stuff.

Eran

@BhargavRao I think he's not the first who became moderator after taking first place in Winter Bash. Got any plans for the next year's elections? :)

HATMAN

I have been closeish all along, but no idea if i can take first or not

Bhargav Rao

@Eran Lol, 1yr 2 mnths on SO. I will hafta decide later! :D

Hope all your votes are with me if I stand for election ;)

Fine then, I'll leave. Tis 2:15 here.

Soon to get the Sun Wukong. (I failed miserably at the Field Work). So 1-2 hats in a couple of days.

Bye

FlagAsSpam

9:02 PM

Um... Flip Flop?

Do we know what that is?

It's related to #thedress, but what about it?

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Yeah

upvote or downvote

if you get blue

you'll only get blue on every other site

FlagAsSpam

You were downvoted?

Quill - HAT MANIAC

no, you cast a vote

FlagAsSpam

Oh.

I haven't cast any votes, though.

X-27

@Pops lol- it has a gas engine and is essentially a very small skid steer loader without the loader.

FlagAsSpam

9:17 PM

I wish I got a hat for this question:

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Q: Installing Ubuntu 14.04 on Sony XPERIA Model C5303

So, I read somewhere recently (I read it here) that you can install Linux (in my case, Ubuntu) onto an Android running phone by rooting the device and overriding the software. I'm going back and forth on whether this would be something I'd like to do, as I have a Sony XPERIA Model C5303 that is b...

linux hardware

1019 views, no votes.

Nobody vote it plz.

@Pops Can haz consulacion het plz?

Pops

9:36 PM

Sorry, it, uh, doesn't seem so.

hichris123

You should open up 'Pops' Hat Consulting Firm' after this, @Pops.

Pops

Who would be my clients? Not much of a market for this sort of thing.

HATMAN

Very seasonal anyways

Kit Z. Fox

9:59 PM

Hey @Pops, is Flying Tiger for 3 Enlightened badges in one day where the answer was posted on the same day you got the badge?

Am I allowed to ask straight out like that?

Pops

It doesn't seem any different than saying "My guess for the Flying Tiger badge trigger is..."

Sorry, that guess does not qualify for Archimedes.

Kit Z. Fox

Is that because someone already figured it out and that's what it was?

Because I was pretty sure I figured out the Flip Flop hat, but no Archimedes for that.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

@Pops there's a market for anything, in the right audience

Pops

No, multiple people can theoretically get Archimedes for the same secret hat.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

As long as they don't shout it to the world

Pops

10:07 PM

I'm not likely to give out any more bathtubs for Odinson at this point, of course. It's a pretty subjective system.

But in your case, that wasn't the issue.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

are there still 13+ answers on that meta question, all dying to get the archie for FlipFlop? or did someone clean it up?

Pops

@KitZ.Fox apropos of nothing, I am intrigued by the idea of judging future moderator candidates on just two qualities (adorableness and ferocity).

Quill - HAT MANIAC

sounds like kitten fighting...

hichris123

@Pops I'm sure some people in the north want to know the most fashionable way to wear their hats...

Hosch250

10:28 PM

I've almost got Amazing Grace on CR.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

for reference, he is talking about this:

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Q: Capitalization Bug in Title Prompt

The title prompt has a capitalization bug: That should be "State the ...", with a capital "S".

bug status-completed design

Hosch250

@Quill-HATMANIAC Nope, this:

9

A: Capitalization Bug in Title Prompt

Time was, every prompt started with a lower-case character. Life was good. Then people started complaining about specific instances. "We're a site for people studying proper English" they said, "It's important we set a good example", they claimed. Fine. The title prompt here now starts with a...