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16:00
Avatr shiny yak is an anagram for my real name
@AvatarShiny I think I have decoded it ;)
@AvatarShiny Just like Lord Voldemort
16:27
@Abcd aaaaaandddddd
@ApoorvPotnis Dear sir, I do happen to have a nose.
@AvatarShiny LOL very funny
@AvatarShiny well if bad guys are after you they'll find you anyway ;)
@AvatarShiny gimma a hint, is it in hindi?
No shit Sherlock
: )
i bet it's in hindi
but I really can't figure it out
a good anagram it is
oh and if it's not in hindi confirm me, otherwise i'll be fruitlessly deliberating
Hindi definitely
No other clues tho
16:32
it's definitely "krishna" in the first name
I'll let you know when I see the full name ; )
Are those spaces delimiting first, middle,last name?
my surname knowledge is really weak, i deserve some credit for getting the first name right :(
Nothing just letters they don't mean anything and only a first name and surname
@Abcd share it then! ;)
16:36
@GaurangTandon Oh, I thought as Rick did. I thought its "Ravat"
Krishna Ayyavat is a possibility
woh woh woh
that surname though
never heard it before
@GaurangTandon Use a java program.
that really seems possible though
@Abcd really? :P
16:39
@GaurangTandon Yup dude, it would make your task really easy. Just search for krishna and then see all possible things coming with it.
@Abcd See 7! combinations :-O
=5040
come on
@GaurangTandon You are overcounting I guess.
@AvatarShiny Tell the number of letters of your first name and surname. Reduce it to a combinatorics problem.
ayyavat has 7 letters
Rumpelstiltskin?
16:41
@Rick that came out of thin air
@GaurangTandon 2ys, 3 as
so $\dfrac{7!}{2!\times 3!}$
@Abcd arrrgggghhh!!!!! yaya you're right. still many though
=420
@ApoorvPotnis I have no interest in letting my name out . An you guys will be bored by tomorrow
Only 420
@Rick That's it guys
16:42
As you wish. Your name, your property.
;-)
But Ravat is a possibility too, I believe.
@AvatarShiny well I'll tell you one thing, if you continue to use social media everyday, your real name will be out one day. If not today, then tomorrow. Very soon ;)
Nothing is hidden on the internet. Nothing at all.
anyway I'll still think some more time. I'm assuming we can exclude nisha/hina/aasin and other such first names, right @AvatarShiny ?
No more clues
16:46
alright
time to get some sleep
good bye all
Early to bed
17:02
@Martin-マーチン woooo crispy.
@M.A.R. which @Martin-マーチン post are you referring to?
@JavaScriptCoder if you click on the arrow to the left of my message, you'll know
The bent arrow. Not the down arrow
It's the highly starred post
OH that one!
Yeah that's a good rebuke to those homework users
Hmm, about 30 percent witty
No sarcasm, not enough funny spelling.
No inside jokes.
I mean, I wouldn't know those inside jokes... riiight?
17:12
Eh, I guess a German professor's best effort
Zhe
Zhe
@M.A.R. Who's a German professor?
@Zhe uh, Martin
@M.A.R How come there are so many German chemists on Chem.SE
Zhe
Zhe
@M.A.R. lol, I didn't know that
You . . . Didn't know? That's weird.
@JavaScriptCoder because Germans are cool
17:13
I mean, theres even the tag [german-stuff]
Zhe
Zhe
No, I assumed that he was a just another random person because isn't everyone else?
And chemistry is cool magnet
@Zhe I'm not random
Zhe
Zhe
@M.A.R. You are to me :D
@Zhe UR FACE IZ RANDOM
@Zhe everyone is a human being worthy of respect
not a random person
17:14
@JavaScriptCoder whoa dude. Careful with the R word
which one @M.A.R.
Zhe
Zhe
@JavaScriptCoder Not disagreeing with that. But everyone is random. I'm random.
@JavaScriptCoder R . . . R . . . Respect
washes mouth
@M.A.R. do you have a problem with that word?
Zhe
Zhe
@M.A.R. I'm imagining you breaking out in Aretha Franklin
Which is hard because I don't know what you look like...
look at his profile pic @Zhe, isnt that what he looks like?
You're hereby arrested for sock puppetry
who, me?!
Zhe
Zhe
@JavaScriptCoder I assumed not but I have no idea
no, me :D
thats a 20 year sentence
of answering chem questions
@M.A.R. is harsh
17:18
@JavaScriptCoder I don't know, do you claim to be random as well?
Zhe
Zhe
Well, I'll tell you that I wouldn't be wasting time with a 9k rep account if I had 49k rep
much less a 1/2 k account (me)
@Zhe anything you say can be used against you as evidence in the court of law
@JavaScriptCoder you need to let the belt loose my friend
That's the second time this week
yesterday, by M.A.R.
@Mithoron you, my friend, just need to let the belt loose
Zhe
Zhe
@M.A.R. I'll take my chances
17:23
PROOF!
Zhe
Zhe
Chem Ph.D. is the same thing as a J.D., right?
Jail . . . Door?
@Zhe yeah duh
Doctorate?
@Zhe Jan says yes
mods auto get Juris Doctorates
Zhe
Zhe
17:25
I'm not a mod
and act as judge, jury, and executioners
Zhe
Zhe
:/
@JavaScriptCoder says who
says the mods
@Zhe There is absolutely nothing :/y about not being a mod
17:27
dang the indians are flooding into the german room
@JavaScriptCoder I am not a mod
Zhe
Zhe
@M.A.R. Not if I don't have my defensive J.D.!!!!
@JavaScriptCoder A mod's name appears in blue in chat
@M.A.R. you're honorary
@Zhe Um, what what?
Zhe
Zhe
17:28
Sorry, misclick
@JavaScriptCoder I don't think I deserve it
Really.
I'm too immature
Zhe
Zhe
@JavaScriptCoder Um, what?
There were like three joined in the past two minutes
and that counts i guess
because there are only like three chatting
Zhe
Zhe
OK. I'm not sure how you mean that, but it can totally be read the wrong way...
oh
i just realized
17:30
And I'm not German
everything i say can be used in court of law
Zhe
Zhe
Well, you can delete it
There is a real German room
India will be a super power by 2020
@M.A.R. u're 13
Zhe
Zhe
If you don't mean it that way, it's probably better you don't just leave that around...
17:30
yeah but the room is tagged german-stuff
@JavaScriptCoder Whut u summun d Indians for curry?
@Zhe nope
@AvatarShiny Isn't it already one?
@AvatarShiny I'M 13 ACTUALLY. I'm insulted
@AvatarShiny what does that have to do with anything?
I'm 19
17:31
@M.A.R. People still piss on the streets that is not a stereotype
@JavaScriptCoder I apologise good sir
@M.A.R. Really
@M.A.R. isnt it g-block elements?
@JavaScriptCoder yup
@AvatarShiny I accept your apology
You know for some reason I had this mental image that you're 30-40 years old with a pot belly and a computer geek
@M.A.R.
@AvatarShiny and your youngsters post millions of spam, ripping the westerners in welfare of their money.
17:33
No offense tho
STEREOTYPES
That, is a superpower
@JavaScriptCoder Thank you kind sir
I meant in reply to both @M.A.R. and @AvatarShiny
@M.A.R. BOI WHUT ABoUt When u BrITs fucked us up
17:34
@AvatarShiny aw come on. Those folks don't have a sense of humor.
No offense to current brits
I mean look at @Mart
I'm a computer geek, I'm thirteen and no, i dont have a pot belly
@JavaScriptCoder Sir I was referring to Mar
17:34
@AvatarShiny 1. I'm Iranian. 2. Mind the language please
Zhe
Zhe
This has quickly turned into a weird conversion
yeah
everything can be used in court of law
@Zhe You are too old
@Zhe I know right? I'm looking for a reset button
Am sorry
Happens
17:35
*This room was placed in timeout for 1 minute; We need this
*
Now, everyone breathe
thx @M.A.R.
What just happened?
something weird
@Zhe No offense
17:37
check chatlog
@Rick I used my magical staff
@JavaScriptCoder Kind sir , I have been meaning to ask are you one of the mensa geniuses
what do you mean?
I have a near-average iq of like 120-140
@AvatarShiny In what way?
@JavaScriptCoder Near average you say sir
17:39
@JavaScriptCoder where can I get one of those?
@AvatarShiny iq doesnt determine human characteristics
@M.A.R. one of whats?
The human brain is too complicated to assign a number to
@JavaScriptCoder boi no false modesty
*This room was placed in timeout for 1 minute; test
*
@JavaScriptCoder IQs. Are they expensive?
17:39
LOL only owners can do that
Lol
@M.A.R. didnt you say "The Human Brain is to complicated to assign a number to?"
@Rick I'm an RO, Room Owner.
Only us ROs can do stuff like that
cant you make rooms though?
Lol
But I feel the peer pressure
17:41
@JavaScriptCoder Sure you can
@M.A.R. 19 year olds must not have that much power
13 year olds have even less power
@AvatarShiny HAHAHA "power"
@M.A.R. you sure that you're not 40
Don't pull my leg
17:42
I have to construct a new image
@AvatarShiny I do have a kidney problem and white hair but doesn't mean I'm old
@AvatarShiny make sure it's handsome
It might look like me then
How's your drawing?
@M.A.R. Hope you're not joking , I don't do sick jokes
what is the definition of sick
@AvatarShiny I am not
@JavaScriptCoder too black comedy
@M.A.R. Very thin , socially inept in real life , thick glasses
17:44
@AvatarShiny MORE STEROTYPES :P
@AvatarShiny Not really, no.
Not even close
@M.A.R. I feel for you
@AvatarShiny thanks
It's not that all my hair is white though
I'd look creepy. And anime ish
@M.A.R. you better not be thinking hahahah I tricked a brown Indian dude today hahahha
@M.A.R. turns out to be on the Iranian Guardian Council, basically runs Iran :)
17:46
But I have white hair. It runs in the family. And not a bad thing.
@M.A.R. Noice, diabetes runs in my family though
@AvatarShiny what would I gain from tricking you? Just check the transcript of a zillion other chats I participate in
Thankfully no diseases specifically run in my family
@JavaScriptCoder Dear sir , are stereotypes bad ?
@AvatarShiny Now that's bad. Sorry
@AvatarShiny can you punctuate properly please?
No punctuation is better than bad punctuation
17:48
@JavaScriptCoder Maybe the 140 IQ thing? And taking University classes?
@AvatarShiny dear sir ., stereotypes are often incorrect !
Zhe
Zhe
@AvatarShiny That depends on whether you use them to judge people you don't know
Judging Zhe
But wait. I know Zhe. And his credit card number
@Zhe Honestly judging isn't bad , no matter how much you hold back you always judge
Zhe
Zhe
17:50
@M.A.R. Actually not funny because I just discovered $2k of fraud on my card
@AvatarShiny No, that's actually bad. You will have a snap judgement, but you should hold off acting on that until you can judge the individual on their own merits
@Zhe sorry
@JavaScriptCoder Sir, they help a lot too.
Everyone should inform us about all their personal problems in case we make a joke.
@Zhe That is there , Malcolm Gladwell argued that very often snap judgements are very very correct
Stereotyping isn't as bad as people say.
Emphasis on argued.
Zhe
Zhe
17:52
@AvatarShiny No, it's a lot worse
I'm with Zhe on this one
Zhe
Zhe
We make a very concerted effort at work to avoid unconscious bias when hiring
@Zhe I will judge , but I never act upon that judgement because that's wrong
@Zhe There goes google
Will try at apple
Zhe
Zhe
@AvatarShiny That's the correct approach
@AvatarShiny then you will just make an additional emotional burden
I'd rather not have that, thank you
Welcome to our not so humble chat, @Stamimail!
17:54
@M.A.R. What are you if you not feel
if you do not feel? or if you lack feeling
@AvatarShiny I feel, but I don't want to unnecessarily have a bad impression about someone.
Doesn't help future communication
Damn prepositions.
@M.A.R. Me too buddy me too
@Hipp oh Hipp, you're pingable! Where the hell is chemobot?
I actually have this impression you told me why it's not here, but I wanna be ignorant
And just for the sake of a ping.
@JavaScriptCoder Based upon a stereotype , do you have asian ancestors
Dang it missed the sir
17:59
Here's something stereotypical: I've grown sensitive about Indians using "sir".
Kindly don't use it. It's often annoying.
Sir , I will give respect sir it is a Hindu principle
Ugh. Some part of me wants to throw the last two hours' transcript into the trash.
It wasn't as friendly as always.
@AvatarShiny then use "man" or "dude" or something. "Sir" is usually inappropriate because you're not in a formal interview
It is like you're respecting me and I don't want it
@Zhe I think the question is "How did you assume that the rate of the formation of the intermediate is proportional to the concentration of $\ce{[A]}$?"
1
A: Relation between chemical kinetics and chemical equilibrium

ZheThe big issue here is that there is confusion between the observed rate law, which is not the same thing as the actual rate law. For example, there are pseudo zero order reactions, but it is impossible for a reaction to be truly zero order (what is reacting then?). Consider the following conver...

@M.A.R. Who is the kind sir is pinning this sir's texts
@AvatarShiny hmph?
See, it's even deteriorating your English.
18:07
@Zhe Is the equation (1) valid?
What's the word for "sir" in Hindi @Avatar?
@M.A.R. Sahib?
I wouldn't mind being called that because simply it's not English and adapts to your culture.
@M.A.R. Sirjee is also used.
But English speaker culture doesn't align.
18:10
@M.A.R. Meh
If you're not getting annoyed then where's the fun?
Annoyance is fun. Making the second person you're talking to uncomfortable, however.
My gosh. "Dear" is even worse.
Then your 99 percent does not reflect 99 percent of the English speaking internet.
¯_(ツ)_/ ¯
FWIW, that wasn't really mockery. Mockery almost always obliges exaggeration.
Iran is where the hijab movement is going on right
@AvatarShiny ¯\\_(ツ)_/ ¯ is the right emoji in SE chats.
Your slash disappeared because of markdown.
18:18
@M.A.R. Why so?
Ahhhh
I know a lot of SE dark secrets, don't I? ;)
@AvatarShiny you use a slash in markdown to escape characters
Nerdy socially inept kids often do
\f
¯_(ツ)_/ ¯
You really wanna prove I'm nerdy and socially inept, don't you?
@AvatarShiny two slashes
@M.A.R. not if it makes you uncomfortable
\\ ¯_(ツ)_/ ¯
¯\_(ツ)_/ ¯
Not much you can do can make me uncomfy, dude
18:21
Really , sir?
You should have seen people call me terrorist because I'm a Muslim
What's going on here? :/
Plus, I've seen so much internet hate I've grown a thick enough skin
But I can't guarantee the next person would be
@M.A.R. Whut
@AvatarShiny touchè
@Rick No drama
Oh no, my nemesis is here
The killer seal.
18:23
Is that orthocresol
Grrrrrr
He has a cute seal
How can he be anyone's nemesis
Zhe
Zhe
@ApoorvPotnis The only thing that makes it is the reaction from A
@orthocresol you won't catch me off guard
@AvatarShiny that's his disguise
Which kinda reminds me
I should probably change my avatar
What should my next avatar be? Ideas?
@Zhe @Ortho
Zhe
Zhe
@M.A.R. black box
18:27
@Zhe like, black black?
Zhe
Zhe
yeah
black out
You have an odd taste
Well, not any kind of joke, of course.
Jokes are always considered lame if in profiles
@Zhe That's a touché
@M.A.R. polar bears eat seals
2
18:30
What would be the product here?
Just saying
@AvatarShiny bright idea of the day, but meh
He'd consider himself victorious for getting me to become an animal, like him
Zhe
Zhe
@ApoorvPotnis That's the steady state approximation.
@Rick From my very rudimentary knowledge of diazonium I would like to make a tukka , entirely substitutes ?
Ok I just found this:
The Meerwein arylation is an organic reaction involving the addition of an aryl diazonium salt (ArN2X) to an electron-poor alkene usually supported by a metal salt. The reaction product is an alkylated arene compound. The reaction is named after Hans Meerwein, one of its inventors who first published it in 1939. An electron-withdrawing group (EWG) on the alkene makes it electron deficient and although the reaction mechanism is unclear, involvement of an aryl radical is presumed after loss of nitrogen in the diazonium salt followed by a free radical addition. In the primary reaction product the...
18:54
nice
19:20
@Zhe I followed your advice. Almost.
Zhe
Zhe
19:39
@Rick "An electron-withdrawing group (EWG) on the alkene makes it electron deficient and although the reaction mechanism is unclear,[2] involvement of an aryl radical is presumed "
:/
Is that the correct reaction for the question? @Zhe Meerwein addition
Zhe
Zhe
Probably
Not much help on the mechanistic front though
It's a weird looking reaction
Adding two electrophiles together
19:59
@Rick did you get it ?

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