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orthocresol
orthocresol
01:33
there is a lot of poor content
we really should try to make more good content...
reviewing etc. is necessary and I'm very grateful the community does it, but the primary thing is really content creation, if we don't have any good stuff then it's too easy to become disillusioned
Maybe I should post another syngolf
pentavalentcarbon
pentavalentcarbon
02:17
I have a question that I'm not going to post because it'll get closed as too broad or primarily opinion based
or "look it up in a book" I don't own
also, uh
in Spring Cleaning, Apr 1 '17 at 1:55, by pentavalentcarbon
And you already know why those kinds of questions aren't asked here.
pentavalentcarbon
pentavalentcarbon
02:35
> even if we know the answer (e.g. by reading it in a book), it shouldn't stop us from asking a question
oops
orthocresol
orthocresol
Yeah, I am guilty of it too.
oh well, perhaps not today, I am busy trying to rush out my experimental section which is supposedly due tomorrow...
pentavalentcarbon
pentavalentcarbon
03:16
@AvatarShiny it's not an issue, but what does the extra stuff in your edit comments mean?
are you trying to keep track of them?
Avatar Shiny
Avatar Shiny
03:32
@pentavalentcarbon Martin said that edits need the be distinguishable , I can always write removing buzzwords Tite fix question number 9 if that's preferable.
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
04:11
@AvatarShiny distinguishable from what? in fact, my edit comments is mostly "retag+clean up question" or "fix mathjax"; descriptive, but indistinguishable :P
Avatar Shiny
Avatar Shiny
@GaurangTandon the truth is I like doing those edit comments
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
04:36
@AvatarShiny well that's completely up to you then
Martin - マーチン
Martin - マーチン
04:51
@M.A.R. yeah, stop me!
Abcd
Abcd
The two gauche conformors of n-butane are called conformational stereoisomers. I don't get why the gauche and anti conformations are also conformational stereoisomers to each other.
Avatar Shiny
Avatar Shiny
Because anti and gauche are different confirmations?
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
05:12
@pentavalentcarbon Any reason why you would spaces in this? chemistry.stackexchange.com/revisions/34229/8 Because visually it has made no difference from my revision chemistry.stackexchange.com/revisions/34229/7
And why is Bronsted written with a phi letter in it :-O en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
Abcd
Abcd
05:30
@AvatarShiny Did you understand page 212 to page 217 of MS Chauhan's Solomon Frhyle?
Avatar Shiny
Avatar Shiny
@Martin-マーチン I have used one of your gifts in one of my answers chemistry.stackexchange.com/a/90930/46306
If it's not fine I will remove it
*Gif
But if you let me use it it will become a gift
Tanuj
Tanuj
Guys, can any one of you tell me what would be the n factor of Fe(C2O4)?
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
2+1=3 since both oxalate and Fe are oxidised
Tanuj
Tanuj
@GaurangTandon I didn't get what you just said
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
@Tanuj n factor for oxalate is 2; n factor for Fe is 1. Agreed?
Avatar Shiny
Avatar Shiny
05:36
@Abcd No , in fact I have been meaning to get it clarified for a long time could you ask it on main ?
Tanuj
Tanuj
Yup
Abcd
Abcd
@AvatarShiny Its so much man. How can I ask for the explanation of the entire thing?
@GaurangTandon Are you an IITian or a chemist? (Just curious...)
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
@Abcd neither :P
Tanuj
Tanuj
@GaurangTandon But isn't the n factor dependent on the actual reaction? Or are you taking into account the fact that n factor equals valency for individual ions?
Abcd
Abcd
@GaurangTandon Then how is your chemistry so good?
Tanuj
Tanuj
05:39
@GaurangTandon but don't we take the n factor to be as the total charge on anion OR cation? Why are you adding both? And how do you know if they both get oxidised?
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
@Abcd what makes you think so :P
Abcd
Abcd
@GaurangTandon Your answers on Chem.SE.
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
@Tanuj most often oxalate goes into carbon dioxide and fe+2 goes into fe+3. I've never seen a variation before.
Tanuj
Tanuj
@GaurangTandon that seems plausible.
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
@Tanuj you're using the elementary definition but this is a redox reaction with simultaneous oxidation of two groups. Have you been taught this before?
Tanuj
Tanuj
05:41
@GaurangTandon but can't be trusted for sure if I get a variation in the exam.
Martin - マーチン
Martin - マーチン
@AvatarShiny Yes, that's absolutely fine. Content here on the site is licensed with creative commons attribution required. Just link back to the original, like I inserted it right now ;)
Tanuj
Tanuj
@GaurangTandon lol never!
Martin - マーチン
Martin - マーチン
If you take images from SE, always include the link-back and you're safe.
Tanuj
Tanuj
Like I could've thought like this for this particular question, but how would I know if there is some unknown specie and that it would undergo a redox?
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
@Abcd reputation on SE is sometimes directly linked to participation level and not to the knowledge. Excellent chemists might have lower rep, while poor people like me high.er It's just a matter of time and continuous activity that you accumulate rep ;)
Avatar Shiny
Avatar Shiny
05:42
@Martin-マーチン the gif has become a gift now.
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
@Tanuj that's why you need to be taught this. It's an entire topic
Martin - マーチン
Martin - マーチン
@GaurangTandon sometimes they coincide though ;)
Tanuj
Tanuj
@GaurangTandon teach me then! Aren't you avaialable right now? ;)
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
@Tanuj i have boards physics exam tomorrow :-O
@Martin-マーチン haha absolutely yes :D
Tanuj
Tanuj
@GaurangTandon I'm sure you don't need to study, but if you have to, best of luck!
Abcd
Abcd
05:45
@GaurangTandon Oh! CBSE?
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
@Tanuj thanks! :)
@Abcd ISC dude
Abcd
Abcd
@GaurangTandon Best of Luck!!! Hope you'll score full.
@GaurangTandon Will you be appearing for JEE too?
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
@Abcd thanks :)
@Abcd yeah ofc
Abcd
Abcd
@GaurangTandon How did English exams go? I am also in ISC (just entered 12th) and damn worried about English
Avatar Shiny
Avatar Shiny
@Abcd Figured the thing out
Abcd
Abcd
05:48
@AvatarShiny What?
Avatar Shiny
Avatar Shiny
I meant the Solomon frhyle thing
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
@Abcd dude it's just started :P read the scheme on cisce.org
Avatar Shiny
Avatar Shiny
Visualization
Use your stereo kit
Abcd
Abcd
@AvatarShiny How?
@AvatarShiny Tell me the page number of Solomon frhyle.
from where you are explaining.
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
@Abcd if you both get stuck, then wait till tomo I might be able to give some input too, in case you need it, just ping in chat after 6pm
Abcd
Abcd
05:50
Okay.
1,3-feeds
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Q: Should we link new users to the homework policy right in the first comment?

Gaurang TandonI've been thinking about this for quite some time now. I've seen 2-3 variations of the template comment in active use. All of them link to the homework policy we have in meta. But this is the template comment I commonly use instead: Hi %name%, welcome to Chem.SE! We have a homework policy tha...

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Avatar Shiny
Avatar Shiny
@Abcd 218
First keep 'em cis/trans as shown in the second diagram then flip
Abcd
Abcd
@AvatarShiny 218 has cyclopropane.
I hope we have the same editions.
I have 3rd Edition. - Green Cover page.
Avatar Shiny
Avatar Shiny
I have the old fat one
2nd
Yup
Abcd
Abcd
What is the heading given?
5.9 A - Rotamer Barriers in Sat. Compounds?
 
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Martin - マーチン
Martin - マーチン
10:47
@AvatarShiny If you use a double space at the end of a line, it'll convert it to an ordinary line break, no need for <br>.
Avatar Shiny
Avatar Shiny
11:25
That's handy
Martin - マーチン
Martin - マーチン
@GaurangTandon chemistry.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/73507
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
@Martin-マーチン oh oh so sorry won't happen again!
Martin - マーチン
Martin - マーチン
;)
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
though any reason why you would add those extra spaces in the first reaction here?
chemistry.stackexchange.com/revisions/90940/2
chemistry.stackexchange.com/revisions/90940/3
it did not make any visual difference at all
for clarity, I mean converting the "aA" to "a A" here chemistry.stackexchange.com/posts/90940/revisions
and the other spaces that you added in that reaction
@AvatarShiny also if you append "m" "s" etc. suffixes at the end of your imgur jpeg image it will reduce its output size in the post
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A: How to resize quickly a imgur image?

harrymcYou can specify the small version of the image by appending s to its base URL. For example, the URL of your original image is https://i.sstatic.net/Brjd7.jpg. By adding s this becomes https://i.sstatic.net/Brjd7s.jpg: https://i.sstatic.net/Brjd7s.jpg Some images may have an ultra-s...

Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
12:00
yes it is
Avatar Shiny
Avatar Shiny
40
Q: Hidden points of editing you probably didn't know

M.A.R.Making a good edit is hard. On chem.SE, we (would/should/could) care about the finest points of formatting. There are basic points of editing many editors know about: Put some fancy MathJax/ $\rm\LaTeX$-syntax in, some paragraphing, bullet points for "points", embolden instead of capitalize, etc....

discussion support faq editing
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@AvatarShiny that guy is so awesome. He's my role model
@Martin-マーチン I sure hope that wasn't your wittiest response of the day
Martin - マーチン
Martin - マーチン
@M.A.R. it might have been, it might not, it's Schrödingers response...
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@Martin-マーチン that's a little bit better, but still pretty novice
Martin - マーチン
Martin - マーチン
ಠ_ಠ
i can always bring out the classic
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
12:08
@Martin-マーチン I hope that's not a Rolls Royce
In case of Germans, BMW
Martin - マーチン
Martin - マーチン
meh, don't like that
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Well, you can't drive beer and sausage
They might help you drive though
Martin - マーチン
Martin - マーチン
i'm not sure that is true
Avatar Shiny
Avatar Shiny
@M.A.R. Walter white?
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@AvatarShiny that guy? No, he just copied this guy named M.A.R.
.
Stupid punctuation
Avatar Shiny
Avatar Shiny
12:25
@M.A.R. That's sad , moderator candidates with criminal records are automatically disqualified.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@AvatarShiny ha, you're really hung up on that election thingy
@Gaurang if you're gonna change the letter case in the title, you might as well use title case
Letter case
Letter case (or just case) is the distinction between the letters that are in larger upper case (also uppercase, capital letters, capitals, caps, large letters, or more formally majuscule) and smaller lower case (also lowercase, small letters, or more formally minuscule) in the written representation of certain languages. The writing systems that distinguish between the upper and lower case have two parallel sets of letters, with each letter in one set usually having an equivalent in the other set. The two case variants are alternative representations of the same letter: they have the same name...
I see @Gaurang is very close to The Great Depression.
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I.e. realizing that you don't get points for edits after 2k rep
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
12:48
@M.A.R. I actually call it the The Great Elevation, guess why ;)
@M.A.R. the reason why I suggested this edit was because the words that you capitalized were not proper nouns, so it did not make sense to me that they should be capitalized. That WP article is a bit long, can you give a tl;dr? I am willing to rewire my grammar rules.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@GaurangTandon TL;DR; trust my capitalization
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
@M.A.R. I can :) But if you give the reason, I can be sure to not commit the mistake again
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Is not strictly grammar, and it's just guidelines, not rules
Never was.
@GaurangTandon Title case is basically catalyze everything except trivial stuff like definite and indefinite articles
*capitalize
Avatar Shiny
Avatar Shiny
It is grammar though in a title all the first letters of a word need to be capitalized
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
@M.A.R. Fine, but it Does not Make Sense To Me...
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
12:54
Autocorrect, you're ruining my writing, man
@GaurangTandon when did it ever?
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
@M.A.R. Probably Never
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Wait a second. DON'T TELL ME . . . Do you actually live in a world that makes sense?!
Alien
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
@M.A.R. I am in an Existential Crisis
Who are These People? Where Am I?
Oh God
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Capitalize Everything
Even This
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
Yes, Everything Needs Capitalization
@AvatarShiny Apparently entire chains of Indian newspapers are in a great crisis epaper.timesgroup.com/Olive/ODN/TimesOfIndia/# Because Their Main Headings Are Not In Title Case while their secondary headings are, lol
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
13:00
@AvatarShiny what constitutes grammar is debatable
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Q: What is meant by "grammar"?

M.A.R.Some people equate grammar with any rules governing the language. Some people believe grammar is language itself minus whatever is being discussed in the shade of "meaning" and "comprehension". Some people think "grammar" is anything that prohibits them from uttering some words, morphemes or phon...

grammar
That post may or may not agree with me
But since I linked something, I must be right
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
Conclusion: "grammar" is very confusing. Focus on sciences.
Avatar Shiny
Avatar Shiny
Lulz I know the title thing because of
google.co.in/amp/www.syfy.com/syfywire/…
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
different places, different capitalization, grammar is confusing. QED.
Avatar Shiny
Avatar Shiny
English isn't even my mother tongue hinglish is
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
lol mine is hindi though
;)
Avatar Shiny
Avatar Shiny
13:10
I bet you don't speak pure Hindi , nobody does.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@AvatarShiny there are no such things as a pure language
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How do you define pure? The language that Indians spoke 100 years ago? 150 years, maybe?
And even if we agree on the date, we can't agree on the region
Heck, maybe not even the home
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
@M.A.R. to extend, there is no such thing as purely ionic or purely covalent bonds; no such thing as an ideal pendulum; no such thing as sum of infinite natural numbers equal to -1/12. It's all in our imagination!
Avatar Shiny
Avatar Shiny
Damn
Arguing with kids is far more easier
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@GaurangTandon get out, chemist. This is a language chatroom
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
@M.A.R. you nailed it
@M.A.R. really? lol :P
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
13:13
Haikus are awesome. Chemistry is even better. Language is even betterer.
Avatar Shiny
Avatar Shiny
@M.A.R. Got it , isolated tribes
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@GaurangTandon I hope it wasn't Jesus, or fake Jesus. I'd be damned throughout the history
Avatar Shiny
Avatar Shiny
Their language is going to be purer than Martin Luther King's soul
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Bah dum tiss
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
@M.A.R. well at least people will remember you for ages. You'll be famous. Is that a bad thing?
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
13:15
@AvatarShiny protip: Politician soul is at best a colloid
@GaurangTandon oh, the publicity thing? I'd rather be a nobody though
Avatar Shiny
Avatar Shiny
Everyone's a colloid
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@Mith we are eagerly waiting for the next close vote review
1,3-feeds
1,3-feeds
14:02
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JavaScriptCoder I help review questions on Chem.SE regularly, and this type of question comes up regularly. Some downvoted homework question by a new person to the Chem.SE network, usually because they weren't aware of the homework policy in the first place. Is it possible that, to help them, we could link the...

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pentavalentcarbon
pentavalentcarbon
@GaurangTandon no real need, but I didn't know that \pu automatically put a space in. I think if there are compound units one needs to be more careful. only really wanted to change 418J/K to 418 J K^{-1}
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
14:19
@mhchem Are you there? pasting this:
`$q_{\mathrm{ice}}=1.17\times 10^{5}\,\mathrm{J}=(\pu{6.01 kJ mol^
{-1}})\left(\dfrac{\pu{1000J}}{\pu{1kJ}}\right)\biggl(m_{\mathrm{ice}}\times\dfrac{1\,\mathrm{mol}\,\mathrm{H}_{2}\mathrm{O}}{\pu{18.02g}\,\mathrm{H}_{2}\mathrm{O}}\biggr)$`
1,3-feeds
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Q: "Numerical-analysis" needs some love!

Gaurang TandonTag: numerical-analysis Questions asked till date: 18 The problems: No tag wiki Evident misuse in a variety of problems from sig figs to kinetics to electrochem. (although I don't blame the askers because this tag doesn't have a tag wiki yet) Recommended action: Delete the tag! (or gi...

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Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
in this - chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/ask - results in "mhchem bug U. Please report."
Tanuj
Tanuj
Hey !
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
@Martin-マーチン you forgot to reply here chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/42937723#42937723
Tanuj
Tanuj
@GaurangTandon Are you available ?
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
14:21
@pentavalentcarbon alright
@Tanuj came for a break; am going almost immediately; sorry dude; I can help, but, just wait for my exams to get over
I wonder if @mhchem pings would send him a notif inbox msg, will it?
@1,3-feeds you could've waited a second before interrupting my msg! :(
Martin - マーチン
Martin - マーチン
14:51
@GaurangTandon better code readability, nothing more... Of to bed now... Nighty night!
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
@Martin-マーチン alright, land of the rising sun, good night!
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Q: What to do if mathrm is hugging physical units?

Gaurang TandonThere was some consensus about how to write physical units from mid-2016 onwards on Chem.SE, as apparent from this post. However, it seems like the damage had already been done by that time. I say so because, I have lately been retagging several old homework questions, and almost everyday, I fin...

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Apoorv Potnis
Apoorv Potnis
15:23
@GaurangTandon You reply pretty fast.
 
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M.A.R.
M.A.R.
17:47
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Q: What to do if mathrm is hugging physical units?

Gaurang TandonThere was some consensus about how to write physical units from mid-2016 onwards on Chem.SE, as apparent from this post. However, it seems like the damage had already been done by that time. I say so because, I have lately been retagging several old homework questions, and almost everyday, I fin...

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@Gau Duuuuuuude. Dude.
You really need to prioritize your actions
Changing mathrm to pu is like, 528,491 on my list
Changing my lazy \rm s, however
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Q: "Numerical-analysis" needs some love!

Gaurang TandonTag: numerical-analysis Questions asked till date: 18 The problem: Evident misuse in a variety of problems from sig figs to kinetics to electrochem, simply because there is no tag wiki for this tag till date. Recommended action: Delete the tag and remove it from all the current questions, es...

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Oof. Euthanasia. Nice.
 
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M.A.R.
M.A.R.
20:54
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Q: Why ortho and para favored over meta in nucleophilic substitution aromatic reaction?

Kamran MuzaffarI'm confused about this area specially

organic-chemistry
I feel bad voting to close an Iranian's question.
Wait. No I don't.
Mithoron
Mithoron
@M.A.R. ;D

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