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12:30 AM

@terdon regarding the question https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/726153/bash-script-containing-sudo-unreliable-background-resume-bg

The question I thought was similar is https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/721699/terminal-error-occurred-while-reset-800b-errno-25

The symptoms are different but I wondered if the cause might be the same

5 hours later…

Adam Ledger

5:56 AM

@forest correct i am using debian. anything that gets excessively promoted makes me cranky so i didnt go with kali. One the subject of popularity, i was installing bullseye on a new machine the other night, and for the second time i noticed something that made me cranky.

During the install, i am prompted with the question "Do you wish to take part in popularity-contest?" I select no because i have a kink for intentionally making myself unpopular, the next thing i see? installing popularity-contest...

and why is it hyphenated? seriously programmers are such weirdos

Kusalananda

6:53 AM

@SottoVoce Is this a discussion about possible duplicates? If so, regardless of whether the underlying cause is the same, the questions are sufficiently different to not warrant flagging one as a duplicate of the other. The cause-effect mechanics also seem to be sufficiently complicated to warrant separate explanations, even if it turns out the cause was identical. What might be helpful would be to refer to the other question in an answer or comment.

3 hours later…

Stephen Kitt

10:05 AM

@forest yes?

terdon

10:50 AM

@Kusalananda I doubt it's about duplicates, I had mentioned I had seen something similar to that question, and SottoVoce is suggesting one that might be the one I'm thinking about.

20 hours ago, by terdon

I could have sworn I'd recently seen something similar reported, something about bg not working as expected. Must be some recent change/bug.

20 hours ago, by Sotto Voce

@terdon that tickles a memory for me too. IIRC the explanation for the strange behavior in the other question eventually ended up being related to the ownership of symlinks under /proc/<pid> or /proc/self . I can't remember the specific question, though.

1 hour later…

Kusalananda

12:00 PM

@terdon I see. Ok. I was lacking the context of the comments here.

Adam Ledger

under the section missing firmware here wiki.debian.org/Firmware i know this is going to reveal im uber noob, but when they instruct you to make a directory called firmware, is that in the home folder, or the filesystem itself? like they say to enter the command "mkdir firmware" but should i first enter the command "cd /./" or do they mean they want a directory in the home folder?

Kusalananda

12:22 PM

@AdamLedger Judging of the rest of the text, it seems as they mean /lib/firmware, i.e. mkdir -p /var/firmware.

Stephen Kitt

@Kusalananda if the reference is to wiki.debian.org/Firmware#Firmware_missing_from_Debian, then no, it’s not /lib/firmware or /var/firmware; it’s anywhere the user can write, so that the subsequent download can be done as the user, not root. The files are then copied to /lib/firmware.

Kusalananda

12:47 PM

@StephenKitt Ah, thanks for that correction!

@StephenKitt And yeah, I probably meant /lib/firmware rather than /var/firmware, but it doesn't matter as it was wrong anyway.

(Neto to self: Stop trying to be coherent while taking part in Zoom meetings at the same time.)

6 hours later…

Sotto Voce

6:20 PM

@Kusalananda I don't know if terdon was thinking it was a duplicate question. The feeling I had reading that second question was that the cause of the troubles may be the same as an earlier question. I couldn't find the question until yesterday.