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1:41 AM

@FaheemMitha I don't want to speak for sourcejedi, but they're likely the ones in the Q and A here: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/334575/…

Faheem Mitha

7:06 AM

@JeffSchaller I see. Thank you for the pointer.

sourcejedi

8:57 AM

Yes, that's what I meant.

Rui F Ribeiro

9:24 AM

@sourcejedi SE is a non-apology, it is BS all the way.

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Q: Why taking responsibility for other people's feelings doesn't work

The whole kerfluffle around pronouns centers around a singular premise. This premise was first asserted in the "Stack Overflow is Not Very Welcoming, it's Time for That to Change" blog post: Too many people experience Stack Overflow as a hostile or elitist place, especially newer coders, wom...

I am taking a vacation of a few months of the unwelcoming plataform. I did not come here to be bossed around and for SE to advocate political activism on top of pro-bono users.

sourcejedi

12:20 PM

@RuiFRibeiro I don't want to get into a personal argument, I'm not sure us two are on good terms for that. I trust terdon saying he doesn't have a problem with the new CoC. Clearly some people think the new CoC needed further clarification. In principle at least, it sounds reasonable for a moderator to have pointed out, or cited, an old Meta answer they wrote, and request guidance on whether their considered answer is no longer acceptable!

@RuiFRibeiro I take at face value the many sources - e.g. SE apology, terdon - saying the specific actions SE took against this moderator were harmful.

@RuiFRibeiro It's not like a politics free space is possible. These are political decisions. We can respect people who use non-binary pronouns, or we can explicitly welcome people who insist on using the wrong pronouns for them. If SE took the latter approach, I'd be taking my f***ing ball home.

If nothing else, I see the CoC change flushed out a different, un-named moderator who lacked the self-control to avoid publicly calling people who identify as non-binary as 1) mentally ill 2) not ready to participate at SE. I don't want that person moderating. Seems to me we were desperately overdue for some political activism.

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terdon

12:37 PM

A user has come up with a much improved version of a FAQ. Worth reading:

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Q: A Pronominal Proposal

The recent Code of Conduct change and, more specifically, the associated FAQ have not gone down well. (For the avoidance of doubt, linking to those does not constitute endorsement.) So of course I wonder whether any policies on this contentious issue would be more broadly acceptable to the commu...

discussion faq-proposed meta-faq code-of-conduct

Tim

The fight between many mods and SE seems out of touch for me.

My head hasn't got around what is happening

sourcejedi

@terdon thanks. I see there's a reply by Aza. As I understand it, education is a real part of the problem. Seems like a really good idea to make sure to have resources you can point to, when there's a CoC change that you know is going to attract... a lot of noise.

Tim

Walked 13 miles yesterday, enjoying my blisters now

sourcejedi

@Tim haha, great.

Tim

How can I avoid blisters?

sourcejedi

12:49 PM

@Tim for me it's my knees I have to watch out for :-).

Tim

wearing double socks?

terdon

Walk more often :)

sourcejedi

I think walking more often can help knees, bit more skeptical on the blisters :-P. Thought that's more an equipment thing. Well-fitting walking shoes?

Tim

I tried wearing double socks, and that helped. But yesterday I tried to give my feet more room to breath, so underestimated the skin rubbing catastrophe. For the last 2 miles, I didn't know how to land my feet

@sourcejedi You can try to unlock your knees by some yoga posture after walking and climbing

terdon

@sourcejedi Oh, it helps enormously for blisters! I used to do a lot of mountain trekking as a kid. The first day, you get blisters. You cover them with band aids or, better, those blister-specific things, but if you continue walking they go away and don't come back. If you walk often enough, you get callouses instead of blisters and everything's fine.

sourcejedi

1:03 PM

Not to get too gross, but if your feet are too sweaty, I put talcum powder between my toes and in my socks. Nice dry feet :-).

My family are real big on walking, I have a feeling I never went through the blisters stage :-).

Tim

only if I have $ to buy the products

sourcejedi

So maybe I'm not the best at advice :-).

Tim

Even 13 miles wo blisters?

I can do 5 miles wo blisters

sourcejedi

I do remember at least one other person doing their "Duke of Edinburgh Expedition" certificate through school though, I think the bottom of their foot was basically one big blister.

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