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12:20 AM
@Fabby As requested last week, the reminder ping
Meanwhile . . . I'll just be thinking out loud here
So far I couldn't get no sysadmin type of job. Neither I am getting no software or devops job. All the interships I've applied for are silent - no response. Not finding bioinfo type either. So where does this leave me now ?
@Adam for filename in ./* ; do echo "$filename" ; done
Insert another command, pipeline, or sequence of commands instead of echo
Globstar * expands to directory entries in current working directory ( and that includes directories as well ) ./ is used to guard against filenames that have leading dash, for example -hello.txt. The reason for that is leading dash makes commands treat leading dash and character in filename as option, for example echo -name would be treated as option -n and ame string of text.
Some commands have -- option which helps guarding against that as well.
If we want to go deeper (traverse subdirectories as well), bash has globstar option that where you can do ./**/* or you can use external command find -type f -exec echo {} \; which calls external /bin/echo (not shell's echo) and provides filename as replacement for {}. And that goes into all subdirectories.
 
12:55 AM
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy if it makes you feel better about the job problems, when I signed up for stack overflow my work experience section was blank and for the education section I put " one of my posts voted quite well in the math community and I haven't been permanently banned from using the chat interface yet"
 
Well, the comment itself makes me feel better, that's some minimal support which is always welcome. Although I'm not the type of person to feel better if other people are struggling as well. There's no point in that.
 
well no but if I can laugh at myself that's permission for you too have a laugh with me in my book
 
If we think critically, I probably don't fit in within those positions anyway. I've no certifications, nor relevant job experience aside from my university job - which isn't IT at all, just sounds so on paper. So to some extent my situation is probably fair and honest.
Heh, well a laugh is always welcome thing in this world I suppose. @Adam
 
not necessarily pleasure in my failures but sharing a laugh over them is the point its the only productive thing to be done about failure with the exception of improvement, which is a bit easier after a laugh
 
Unless it's an evil , demonic laugh or laugh of a baby when you actually don't have a baby
XD
 
1:03 AM
well at least not see it until its gestated into human form
 
I actually like kids, and kids like me.
I probably could be a teacher, though again, I'm stuck in a corner - can't change my major
 
1:38 AM
What the heck am I not noticing ?
 
2:01 AM
I don't think I understand the LQP review queue. This one is a bad answer, it has been downvoted already, and it's not salvageable by my editing it. It doesn't seem right to choose either "Delete" or "Looks OK", because it's not ok, but nor are merely bad answers meant to be deleted.
 
2:14 AM
@MichaelHomer Someone could argue the answer just provides "try this" type of answer and qualifies as a comment, so could be deleted and converted into a comment by a mod. I've left a comment on the post btw
@FaheemMitha I think couple of weeks ago you've asked what's Block Device. Well, according to Digital Ocean: " It is called a block device because the kernel interfaces with the hardware by referencing fixed-size blocks, or chunks of space."
 
2:50 AM
@MichaelHomer don't mistake my understanding of it for the truth, but the metric I've been using is: "does it attempt to answer the question?" As contrasted with the "delete" radio button options of "is a new question" or "I'm having this problem too" or "I like pasta". The one you linked is a close call with the "try" verb, but I voted "Ok" with the rest of it being at least on-topic, if .. otherwise poor for missing the systemd aspect and not explaining themselves at all.
In other words, "looks ok" is a pretty low bar, just above spam and other, obvious non-answers. A zero- or now -1 voted Answer should send the right signal when there are others, upvoted answers.
 
The "No action needed"/"I'm done" options from the first posts queue seem more appropriate for answers that really don't look ok, but aren't deletable
But since "Looks OK" is what's available I suppose that's what it has to be
 
Anyone has suggestions on that bind mount question ?
 
Something is funny with that question and it just doesn't even render the page for me
So from view-source the short answer is "Yes", and the long answer is "Yes, as you demonstrated in the question"
I don't understand the applicability of your comments, if that's what you're asking about
 
Alright, I'll just delete those
Hmmm, how is bind mount file to file different from just making a hard link, though ?
Inodes are the same
 
3:35 AM
Well, I don't know how to deal with things anymore
 
 
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5:07 AM
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy Ok, thank you.
@derobert We just passed the 3 year anniversary of unix.stackexchange.com/a/182503/4671
Perhaps consider an update? It seems like a popular topic.
 
 
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12:28 PM
@Kusalananda are you around?
 
12:51 PM
@terdon I am now.
 
1:06 PM
@Kusalananda Hey, I was wondering about the question you wanted migrated. Do you think it's worth migrating rather than simply deleting and reposting there?
If you migrate, you keep the votes which is cool (although they don't translate to rep on the target site as I recall).
But the question won't appear as new, it keeps the date it was posted on.
So maybe you'd rather have it posted so it's new?
On the other hand, you might want to keep the comments which migration will do.
So, up to you. Let me know what you prefer.
 
@terdon I think a wholesale migration with comments would be best.
I think it's better suited there and may find the eyes of someone with more expert OS knowledge.
The fact that it won't be "new" is not really an issue.
 
OK. One sec
done
 
Thanks terdon, you're a star!
3
 
np
 
 
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3:05 PM
Hi folks.
 
#include <stdio.h>
int main()
{
   printf("Hello, Faheem!");
   return 0;
}
 
@Jesse_b I see we're getting creative.
You forgot the compilation and execution steps. Personally, I recommend gcc.
 
=)
How are you?
 
@Jesse_b Ok. Paperwork to do. But I suck at it.
 
Me too
I don't think anyone likes paperwork though, that's why lawyers charge so much
 
3:19 PM
@Jesse_b I tend to do a lot of my own stuff. I can't really afford anyone else to do it for me. And usually when I try someone, they don't do a good job, anyway.
 
@FaheemMitha Good, I'm under the belief that the more you can do for yourself the better off you will be. Paying other people to do a job costs more than if you did it yourself and their heart wont be in it
 
@Jesse_b Sure, but it all takes time. And I only have one pair of hands, and there are only so many hours in the day. And I kind of live on the computer as it is.
 
@FaheemMitha You should have a kid (joking), it's made me much more motivated to take care of all the things I had been putting off. I would say my productivity has improved at least 150%
 
@Jesse_b Yes, I understand what you mean.
 
@FaheemMitha Have you ever listened to motivational speakers or read "self-help" books?
 
3:26 PM
@Jesse_b and then you have more than one pair of hands! ;)
 
@JeffSchaller Occasionally. Why?
 
@JeffSchaller hah. Good morning Jeff
 
@FaheemMitha if you can put the kids to (constructive) work, that is
 
@JeffSchaller I think child labor is illegal, at least in the US.
 
@Jesse_b o/
 
3:28 PM
Plus they'd need to be past a certain age to be useful.
And you'd need to train them properly too. To be good little soldiers.
 
@FaheemMitha Believe it or not child labor is explicitly legal in the US if they are working for a relative
 
@Jesse_b That's interesting. I didn't know that.
There's a distinction drawn?
 
actually it's only if you work for a parent/guardian: dol.gov/general/topic/youthlabor/employmentparents
 
mine want money so we've found "chores" for them to do
 
@Jesse_b I see. Very interesting. So a Federal law then.
The Department of Labor.
 
3:31 PM
@FaheemMitha Yeah could vary state to state but I know my friends were working at their family restaurant at around 8-10 years old and it was legal
(In NJ)
 
@Jesse_b Hmm. Still abusable, though.
 
@FaheemMitha Yeah well parents that would abuse their children are probably going to do it either way. Probably better if they do it in a legitimate business where it's more likely to be noticed
 
my suggestion to have kids in order to have another pair of hands might be overkill. unless you're a farmer, maybe
 
3:53 PM
@Jesse_b Good point.
@JeffSchaller Probably. Or Fagin.
 
4:28 PM
@Kusalananda: Why must your precious BSD have such a terrible date command? :P
 
4:39 PM
Hi all, I'm having issues with dhcp on virtualbox 6.0.4 with an ubuntu 18.04 server guest -- when using a bridged adapter, it hangs on startup while configuring network settings, and dhclient just fails repeatedly. Have tried deleting /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.leases, messing with firewall settings, spoofing my virtual network adapter's mac address, to no avail -- but only on my university's student network. On a private network it works as expected. Any hunches or suggestions appreciated
 
@MoxieBall I'd ask a question on the site. But first, does a simple setup work?
If I remember correctly, configuring networking isn't necessary for VB.
At least not for a basic installation.
 
NAT works fine
I'm working on a project where I need them all on a public network with their own ip
 
@MoxieBall Ok, I guess ask a question then.
Though a more specialist site might also be worth considering. Perhaps a VB forum or user mailing list?
This site is sufficiently general that experts in any particular area are in short supply. And I've never got the impression that we are particularly strong on networking.
BTW, if dhcp fails, have you tried static (if that is an option)?
 
Unfortunately static isn't an option
thank you though, I hadn't thought to check that yet
 
@MoxieBall Ok.
@MoxieBall Check what?
 
4:50 PM
if using a static ip was an option (don't know enough to have expected it to make a difference)
 
@MoxieBall Dunno if it would make a difference. But when debugging it's worth casting around to try to get a handle on the problem.
 
5:12 PM
@Adam I don't like traffic lights: they impede my freedom! ;-)
 
@MoxieBall I recommend you first check with the static IP as Faheem suggested. If that works, you will at least know that the only problem is the DHCP and that should help you debug.
 
@Fabby Who are you, Mad Max?
 
@Jesse_b Well, at least it's POSIX compliant.
 
@Kusalananda :p it's not really bad just very different. Any script that deals with the date command on macos will not be portable to almost any other OS
 
@Jesse_b You mean, not portable to a GNU system?
Because, if you combine all the Unices that uses GNU date into "GNU systems", you see that in terms of number of different types of date implementations, GNU uses only one of a few of the ones available.
It's GNU date that is the odd one out.
 
5:26 PM
I dunno about that
 
And as we know, GNU is not UNIX, so we may as well disregard those tools completely ;-)
 
I would say most systems in use are GNU systems (meaning greater than 50% of the unices out there), but even non GNU/BSD date commands I've used are closer to GNU than BSD
 
If you're writing for portability, you can't use GNU date's extensions.
 
5:42 PM
@terdon Unfortunately my university's network doesn't allow for static ips
(and the vms have to connect to a service that's only available from inside the network)
 
@MoxieBall Sure, but they will still load. All I'm saying is try the static IP so you can rule out other issues. If the machine boots OK, at least you know the issue is just on the DHCP side.
 
6:07 PM
So I just answered a question of a low rep/long time user that appears from the history it has an habit of disappearing when he feels he is happy with the question. None of the questions are marked as accepted, he justs stops providing feedback. LOL Strange.... Will wait a bit more...
 
6:42 PM
@Nani, I just noticed that you haven't accepted an answer for any of the 4 still open questions you've asked. Accepting an answer is the best way to thank the person who took the time to answer you and, more importantly, shows the next user who finds your question that this answer worked for you. If the answers you have received did actually answer your question, please take a moment and accept them by clicking on the checkmark on the left. — terdon ♦ 5 secs ago
 
@terdon terdon strikes again, with success!
 
6:59 PM
@terdon He accepted mine a minutes ago, maybe because I asked. ;) but thanks for caring. Anyway, we managed to solve the problem. There were similar questions about having another ports linked, but none mentioned that non-443/TCP ports have to be identified.
bah, was supposed to be out of work already.
@terdon oh, your message is already from 18:42, why is saying here 5 secs ago....??? strange. Ignore then what I just said, good work.
 
@RuiFRibeiro probably because he pasted the chat link here 5 seconds after he posted the comment itself
 
@JeffSchaller confusing ;)
 
time is confusing
 
Glad I could help :)
 
@terdon that user took me by surprise when started looking at his profile, a 1.5 y user with 24 rep (29 now)
 
7:37 PM
@RuiFRibeiro Well, not a very active one. It's quite possible they didn't even know about the accept feature.
 
 
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9:30 PM
@FaheemMitha :D Mad? Yes! Mouahahaha.....
 
@Fabby I meant to ask whether you are an embittered Road Warrior. Preferably mounted on a fast moving motorcycle.
 
Gimme 1 minute
@FaheemMitha Missed it?
 
10:28 PM
@Fabby If you mean the photo of you with the car, I saw it.
 
@FaheemMitha :-)
 
11:21 PM
@Fabby Just had a chinese compote of chilli peppers and black pepper....
 
@terdon are you still online? Question about a Meta Question, if you're able. It can wait, otherwise.
It is: what should I do to the tag discussion in order to "make it so"?
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Jeff SchallerWhich do we want to keep and which should be synonymed to the other? return-status, with 118 questions, says: Use this tag If your question revolves around determining or utilizing the return status (exit code) of a command. Common syntax involves the $? variable and the && and || symbols. ...

 

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