I'm in the market for a new mail hosting provider. My current one, Luxsci, is generally good, but its spam filtering is crap. So that's increasingly an issue. Thoughts?
I'm also struck by the fact that Luxsci, at USD 10 a month, is more expensive than any of the ones John lists. Though I do pay monthly rather than yearly.
Was browsing John's site. and came across this reminiscence of when he worked at Progeny with Ian Murdock - changelog.complete.org/archives/…. I've read it before.
Many younger Linux users may not remember Progeny, but there was much hope for it, back in the day.
@terdon Well... You're a mad scientist too so I knew you'd be interested.... Good to know that it's always good to know that you should define your constants and not actually use constants.
@FaheemMitha per user the price is OK but it ends up amounting to sizable sums for large numbers of users (obviously)
and AFAIK you don’t just pay for GMail, you pay for all the Google apps
(which is also a nice hook for Google — companies buy their service for email, and then when somebody says “we need instant messaging”, the CFO will say “we’re already paying for hangouts”)
@StephenKitt Yep. Although, I have to admit that it works great. Our corporate mail is on Gmail, and we also use hangouts for scrum meetings etc, and they both work brilliantly,. As does the shared calendar. And for a very reasonable price that a small startup can afford.
@FaheemMitha They never (as far as we know) "own your data and sell it to people". They own your behavioral data, which is a very different thing. Not better, mind you, just different. They don't own the contents of your emails or sell them.
Or, if they do, they hide it very well since that would essentially destroy them.
@FaheemMitha No, that's google, but a different department. That's part of the behavior bit. It's called "targeted advertising" and is the scourge of the internet.
@terdon given that they host the email of a lot of their competitors, if it turned out they were reading all that content they’d be in a world of trouble
@FaheemMitha in practice, it involves them knowing who sends you email (because many people automatically add recipient addresses to their lists of contacts)
It has nothing to do with app “synergy”. LinkedIn asks for access to users’ GMail accounts (and other services’) to import their list of contacts, and users grant it; that access isn’t a one-time thing.
I installed vino VNC server on Lubuntu 18.04, and configured and started my vino server according to https://askubuntu.com/a/530196/1471:
$ export DISPLAY=:0
$ gsettings set org.gnome.Vino enabled true # although fails, it doesn't matter
No such key “enabled”
$ gsettings set org.gnome.Vino prom...
Good morning, @terdon! Whenever you want to take a look at that Meta post, consider this your friendly reminder :) Let me know if there's anything else I should do in preparation.
@Tim yes, I use SSH to connect, and forward Xpra (Xpra supports this transparently); that way all the traffic is encrypted and authentication is handled by SSH
We have over 8000 servers and I'm not trying to remember all them IP addresses :p. I have one script that keeps a csv (I know) of the common admin nodes I use and gives me a select list to choose from, and another that takes a server name as an argument, looks up it's IP from our inventory system api and then ssh's to it
At a previous job we had a centralized admin server to access admin relay server for any rdp or ssh connection, this thing also record every command typed and video for rdp. Quiet bothering at first it happen to be very nice
cmdb.uuidchk () { # Function to determine if argument is a UUID or not
if [[ "$1" =~ (........)-(....)-(....)-(....)-(............) ]]; then
return 0
else
return 1
fi
}
in one of my dev when working with custom define language I remember defining 3 quiet complicated PCRE and using a fourth one that concatenate them to make everything easier
but @JeffSchaller you're better than that you're a sysadmin you're above that and you should show to those who argue THEY are developers the nicest code to show them how bad they are as they only understand code and not machine
@StephenKitt I see. I'll keep that in mind. X used to be a bandwidth hog. Probably still is. Less of an issue with today's connections, perhaps, but still an issue, maybe.
The local server is where it's running on. So it doesn't matter if the remote one has a server running, but it does need to have basic X library support. I forget the details.
I mean, the remote server needs to have basic X library support.
I should try it once, I'm trying to setup stuff on my new server and I would llike to use some visualize applicaiton on it without having to install a desktop env
@Kiwy Regular X uses quite a lot of bandwidth, I think. It may be less of an issue than it used to be, but regardless, the Xpra thing might be worth looking at.
I remeber a teacher of mine in 2008 probably saying that Xorg was terrible and should be replaced and project Wayland would smash everything and be quicly adopted
@StephenKitt I see. Thank you for the explanation. I think fiber might be available here soon, or maybe already, but it doesn't really bring big advantages. Because in India it's mostly about reliability.
@FaheemMitha sarcasm :D Because the guy I had on the phone told me that like it was bad news, though I almost choose my building because I knew there was fiber in the building :D
mail system are so complicated nowadays it's hard to elaborate on that on a chat. But you have to know that if you face a very picky server it could be hard to send it mail
@JorgeFernándezHidalgo you don't risk answering to the email though you should try to talk to the person before sharing anything with that person. Once you have a name try to find it on linkedin facebook and stuff like that
@FaheemMitha Well I could recommand that every email should be send with authenticaiton TLS and respecting SPF and checking reverse DNS but there are so much badly configured email server out there that it would be the end of the mail
well the email server should be configure to not allow unauthentify user, proper SPF record should be deploy for every dns name that send mail. and any mail receive from a server that do not have a reversedns record a proper spf and a TLS connection should be refused.
That would help to remove 99% of the spam but most people would no receive there mail inside companies...
@FaheemMitha Well it's up to you. You would cut a large portion of spam and a lot of legitimate email that comes from small email provider
but you should definitely advertise your email server in a SPF record and you should ensure that you have a proper reverseDNS name as well and set up a TLS only server though a lot of email are still not configure with a sign certificate... @FaheemMitha Good luck if you want to handle that for yourself, email are a pain in th A** GTG see you later :-)
in any case I wouldn't recommand anyone to handle his own email server except if he had a very specific need for that and the knowledge of what to do with it
Hold up..... this isn't trolling.
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@FaheemMitha Yeah I've heard it doesn't actually help much but orange juice always makes me feel better. Could just be the fluids as well, but I also think doctors have become almost anti-vitamin/natural remedy
@Jesse_b For something that is a placebo, it's remarkably popular. Though I take pills, not orange juice.
@Jesse_b BTW, thanks for setting me straight about mouthwash, which I had been mindlessly consuming. I think you're correct that it's not a suitable thing to use on a regular basis.
@FaheemMitha No problem but I should reiterate that I'm just some dumbass from the internet and you should definitely not trust any of my medical advise :p
My grandmother used to always give me the same advise when I was younger. She would say "Jesse if you really want to make something out of yourself: forget it because you're a dumbass"
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@FaheemMitha Mostly. I usually get on for a bit on my days off as well but don't normally join chat
I installed vino VNC server on Lubuntu 18.04, and configured and started my vino server according to https://askubuntu.com/a/530196/1471:
$ export DISPLAY=:0
$ gsettings set org.gnome.Vino enabled true # although fails, it doesn't matter
No such key “enabled”
$ gsettings set org.gnome.Vino prom...
Hold up..... this isn't trolling.
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