Hi guys, I have an issue with gpg

I am trying to postpone the expiry date of my keys

and refresh the UIDs as well

gpg --list-secret-keys shows the correct secret keys

but I get gpg: signing failed: No secret key when I try to change UIDs or change the expiry date

And I can actually sign files with gpg --sign

@nathdwek you got other keys in keyring? you sure you editing the correct key?

I only have one secret key in my keyring

To the best of my abilities, I think I am editing the correct key

fingerprints match

I am using cinnamon as a DE, and when I did gpg --sign, I was presented with the GUI pinentry. Is it possible that it is messing with gpg CLI interface?

@nathdwek Are you using GnuPG 2.1 or an earlier version? Do you have multiple versions of GnuPG installed?

@k

@Kusalananda unix.stackexchange.com/questions/393162/…

I sorted it out

@nathdwek Ah, good.

So, a rainy day today.

I keep thinking it's going away and then it comes back.

Rain, rain go away. Come again another day.

@FaheemMitha But, rain always comes back. As does sun.

@Kusalananda This time of year, less and less frequently. Till next year, of course.

Here we have what are called the monsoons.

@FaheemMitha And you're wishing they were "monlaters".

@Kusalananda :-)

I've never been a big fan of the rains, I must admit, though I think I did like them as a child.

But they are very necessary, unfortunately.

For one thing, Bombay is entirely dependent on the monsoon for water. A bad situation.

@FaheemMitha Well, that's what you'd expect. A place gets a yearly weather phenomenon, it's bound to be built to accommodate and depend on it.

@Kusalananda Not when the phenomenon is unreliable.

Anyone here?

@Andy_A̷n̷d̷y̷ Maybe?

@Kusalananda Schrödingusalananda

@Kusalananda What is this schrodinger's chat? People are here and not here at the same time and depending on looking, I will find the answer? lol

@Andy_A̷n̷d̷y̷ Schrödinger’s chat LOL

@Andy_A̷n̷d̷y̷ We're just a bunch of Unix people very irregular chatting habits. Leave for a week and miss a few messages, then look back the next hour and we're all discussing the weather in India and long gone writers of weird books.

@Kusalananda lol that sounds like me

Anyways, on a more serious note, how much knowledge do you guys have with Systemd?

Not my cup of tea, but others here have certainly heard more about it than I.

@Andy_A̷n̷d̷y̷ some, but there’s a fair chance you’d be better off asking a question on the main site

Ok

@Andy_A̷n̷d̷y̷ depends? can ask here or in any case you can still write a question

And that's the essence of Schrödinger's chat; you can't know until you've asked. Until then, the topic of the question is both dead and alive.

@Kusalananda smells like necromancy

@sebasth Well, a dead topic may be revived...

I've got some points to add to a few answers about dd and cat for question "Erasing a Linux laptop", namely about speed and convenient progress bar. Adding another comment doesn't really IMHO give enough visibility. Is it frowned upon if I write another answer expanding on those already given answers? I don't think its very polite, to say the least, if I'd make such additions to other's posts.

@sebasth I’m not sure a new answer would get much visibility either

(since such edits would make my additions look like they'd be OP's idea, which they might or might not agree)

@sebasth I think a new answer is reasonable in that case.

That's what I'd do.

especially since speed and progress information isn’t directly relevant to the question IMO

it is relevant, but that's not what you start with when answering the question

It's not a perfect choice. A better approach would be work with the authors of the existing answers to improve them, but that rarely happens.

I think its a bit relevant if a wipe takes an hour or a day. My experience with dd's default bs had left much to wish for throughput in such scenario.

or put another way, the lack of such consideration doesn't make any of the existing answers incorrect

Minor editing is probably ok. More significant editing is not.

@sebasth I have no real opinion. I just wonder whe he thinks he needs to bother with hard disk wipe...

@sebasth but that's already addressed in the existing answers (bs=4096)

@Kusalananda probably because he didn't bother to encrypt it in first place

I mean, the original posters might object. Anyway, it's not normally done unless the post is community wiki.

@sebasth Well, replace the disk and dispose of the original in a secure manner.

@StephenKitt indeed, but I'd recommend to use cat right away, since no dd features are required and cat does pretty well out of the box unix.stackexchange.com/questions/9432/…

@sebasth agreed, so upvote the answer which mentions that

and perhaps comment on it to add pv or progress or whatever

@StephenKitt yeah, its probably the least clutter around

recent gnu dd versions also have status=progress option to add too

@sebasth yup

progress is nice because you can use it after-the-fact

o/

Wondered yesterday, but forgot to ask: does anyone know why exactly do kali-linux questions seem to be below the average

@sebasth They often run Kali Linux without any appearance of understanding what that distribution is actually for (it's for security professionals working with penetration testing and security auditing). They also often write incomplete questions, questions lacking essential information, but most often questions about how to use Kali Linux in ways it was not meant to be used (e.g. as a general purpose Linux distribution).

@Kusalananda yes, but why don't the people asking those questions for example run ubuntu instead in first place ; why did they end up with kali

@sebasth That is the correct answer to some of those questions, yes.

I suppose some are quite young and want to be "l33t".

... and so they pick this bad-ass Linux distro which real hackers use.

@Kusalananda suggesting they know to use google well enough to land here but not solve their issues?

@sebasth ... or to find the Kali Linux documentation: docs.kali.org/introduction/should-i-use-kali-linux

I've wondered if Kali is named after the Hindu goddess.

@Kusalananda perhaps they should move "Trying to install Steam on your Kali Linux desktop is an experiment that will not end well" to beginning, in case reading stops after first few sentences

It's the same name, so.

Apparently not.

@FaheemMitha See "Kali Linux – what’s in a name?" kali.org/news/birth-of-kali

So, yes, not the goddess, "just a name".

@Kusalananda Yes, that's what I read too.

I guess that its too bad kali is based on debian instead of gentoo. If kali linux would require similar install as gentoo to set up, I'd bet there be less noise generated here

On cue: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/217564/…

@Kusalananda asked Jul 22 '15 at 9:25

@sebasth Yes, but bumped just now.

@Kusalananda weird, I don’t see the point in bumping a question whose asker is gone

@StephenKitt I recently got an answer accepted on a question about as old as that one.

Actually, it was even older, Oct 25 '14, but I might just have been lucky there...

@Kusalananda Wait, what? You've been here that long? You can't have been very active!

@Kusalananda yeah, I’ve had answers accepted on old questions too, but in this instance no one will be able to accept an answer

Posts are bumped to bring attention to them. Whether the OP is still around should be, and is, irrelevant. The question can still be helpful and interesting. One of the basic tenets of the SE system is that we don't only answer for the OP.

So yeah, it makes sense that even such an old one would be bumped./

@terdon Sometimes it seems there already is a good answer there, it just happens to be bumped because OP never bothered to mark it accepted :\

@terdon No, this was Sep 9 this year, but the question was old. unix.stackexchange.com/questions/164110/…

@sebasth I don't think so. Not 100% sure, but pretty sure that accepts don't make a difference, only votes.

The example Kusalananda posted above for instance had no upvoted answers before today. Now one of them has an upvote.

Which is precisely the point of bumping.

@sebasth Yes, that happens a bit too often. I sometimes comment with a "why don't you accept then?" (but with nicer words). Especially if they've said "thanks, that worked!".

@terdon I also think the question itself had 0 score before it was bumped

Yep

Accepting an answer is not very important. A question is counted as "answered" if it has at least one upvoted answer.

@terdon Oh, I did not know that. Unfortunately, the "unanswered" tab works differentely.

@Kusalananda No it doesn't.

@terdon hear hear

@terdon Huh, you're right...

@Kusalananda Am I though? I know I've checked this before, but the first couple of pages on the unanswered tab seem to consist entirely of questions with 0 answers, no 0 upvoted ones.

Ah, of course, I was looking at the "no answers" subtab.

@terdon Ah.

If you look at the others ("my tags", "newest" or "votes") you'll also see questions with answers but not voted ones.

Might be that it looks for positively scored ones (so +1, -1 still counts as unanswered). Don't remember.

In any case, an answer with a positive score is certainly enough to mark a question as answered.

@terdon Yes, I just noticed. I hadn't really caught on to the fact that all of the answers there had no votes...

Upvotes answers don't mean good answers, though.

Sometimes I think answers are upvoted randomly.