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My first computer was running OS/2; I was probably the last one in my class to get one. So as you may already guess I have never used any version of Windows as my regular OS. My first contact with Linux was buying SuSE 5.1(?). I did not intend to use it; I just wanted to have a look at it becaus...

@Seth that means you. :-)

Seth

@FaheemMitha ehh, I'm a pretty private person. I'm not sure =)

Faheem Mitha

@Seth You can talk about your relationship with Unix without revealing much private stuff at all...

Actually, Anthony never did answer either. If he shows up, I'll pester him too.

Pandya

4:02 AM

@FaheemMitha Happy Republic Day!

You can watch live telecast from Delhi on DD National

Parade etc.

Faheem Mitha

5:25 AM

@Pandya Thanks, you too.

Faheem Mitha

5:41 AM

@Pandya Ok, thank you.

Pandya

6:15 AM

Live telecast was during 9:30 to 11:40 am IST. over.

Pandya

6:26 AM

@cuonglm I don't get why is awk -F '.com' is failing for "acomercial.com". Can you help me to understand?

because I think -F '.com' should only separate based on .com key-word, then How/Why this fails?

cuonglm

@Pandya .com will be considered as ERE, not string literal

Pandya

@cuonglm simplify. what do you mean by ERE?.....

cuonglm

It's an extended regular expression

Michael Homer

. is a wildcard that matches any character

cuonglm

with acomercial.com, you got $1 is empty string

Pandya

6:36 AM

@MichaelHomer then how do I specify . as char?

cuonglm

@MichaelHomer: Strictly speaking, it's not wildcard, it's regex meta character.

Pandya

awk -F "'.'com"

is working

no... actually not...

Michael Homer

use \

Pandya

already tried:

awk: warning: escape sequence \.' treated as plain .'

cuonglm

@MichaelHomer: You can't

Michael Homer

6:46 AM

oh, awk. use [.] then. or the octal escape

Pandya

@MichaelHomer yes, working

$ echo 'acomercial.com/asdsad' | awk -F '[.]com' '{print $1}'
acomercial

$ echo 'acomercial.com/asdsad' | awk -F '[.]com' '{print $1 FS}'
acomercial[.]com

@cuonglm ^^

$ echo 'acomercial.com/asdsad' | awk -F '[.]com' '{print $1".com"}'

gives: acomercial.com

got it!

@MichaelHomer Thanks

Michael Homer

No worries

cuonglm

7:02 AM

@MichaelHomer: It seems to be weird, awk still record the FS variable as [.]com, any ideal?

Michael Homer

I don't know a way around that

Pandya

@cuonglm you're right.

Welcome for the improvements.

Michael Homer

F=FS; gsub("[][]", "", F); and then use F instead

cuonglm

7:22 AM

It's too much works, and still fail if FS contain any literal [ or ]

Sound line we should stick to simpler version and avoiding this.

Pandya

8:08 AM

@FaheemMitha I've just tried

By the way one suggestion: why not using unix.SE in the title of question? @FaheemMitha

if you don't mind, btw, how about changing your chat-profile's parent site to unix.SE @FaheemMitha?

Faheem Mitha

@Pandya Ok. Thank you.

@Pandya That's a good point. Didn't realise it was pointing to TeX SX.

@Pandya Ok, done.

Pandya

fine

Faheem Mitha

@Pandya Consider expanding your answer a bit. Unless you have privacy concerns, that is.

Some personal information, some information about your technical background, and computing history in particular would be interesting to readers. And we have very few people from this part of the world answering that question.

@Pandya Which question are you referring to?

Pandya

8:23 AM

@FaheemMitha you can consider this as first/basic version; I'll elaborate when I'll wish.

Faheem Mitha

@Pandya Ok.

Pandya

@FaheemMitha Getting to know you: who are you and why do spend time on unix.sx?

Faheem Mitha

@Pandya You mean why did I write unix.sx instead of unix.se?

I think one reason people historically didn't use .se is because it's a real top level domain.

Though now, so is .sx.

.sx

.sx is the country code top-level domain (ccTLD) in the Domain Name System of the Internet for Sint Maarten. Sint Maarten became an autonomous country within the Kingdom of the Netherlands on October 10, 2010. On December 15, 2010, the ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency allocated SX as the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code for Sint Maarten. The sx top-level domain is managed by SX Registry SA, contracting technical operations to OpenRegistry.com with centers in Canada and Luxembourg. Registrars of sx domains must be accredited by the registry. After an initial sunrise period to claim trademarked names, and ...

Pandya

@FaheemMitha I found most (almost) people using SE on MSE and chat

Faheem Mitha

@Pandya Yes, I use it too.

Pandya

8:29 AM

compare google.co.in/search?q=unix.sx and google.co.in/search?q=unix.se

@FaheemMitha before migrating I had used Windows.

but now hate Windows or Damn @Windows!

sorry for using such words

Faheem Mitha

@Pandya Ok. Well, a few words about your preceding history would help to give some context.

Actually, my answer could be better too.

Pandya

8:44 AM

@FaheemMitha elaborated a bit

By the way I probably can't write good English as others, you're welcome for any correction/improvement

Faheem Mitha

@Pandya Ok.

@Pandya If you are a sysadmin or a programmer, you could also mention that. If you use GNU/Linux professionally, you could also mention that.

BTW, who is your ISP?

Pandya

@FaheemMitha you mean Internet Service Provider?

Faheem Mitha

@Pandya correct

Pandya

Which:

Internet service provider

An Internet service provider (ISP) is an organization that provides services for accessing, using, or participating in the Internet. Internet service providers may be organized in various forms, such as commercial, community-owned, non-profit, or otherwise privately owned. Internet services typically provided by ISPs include Internet access, Internet transit, domain name registration, web hosting, Usenet service, and colocation. == History == The Internet was developed as a network between government research laboratories and participating departments of universities. By the late 1980s, a process...

Faheem Mitha

I use MTNL. But they only serve Bombay, I think. Using the term "serve" loosely.

Pandya

8:51 AM

@FaheemMitha I use BSNL Mobile connection with Net-setter

Faheem Mitha

@Pandya Ok. Isn't Mobile expensive?

I've got a DSL line.

Pandya

@FaheemMitha expense depends upon your average usage and requirement. what about you?

@FaheemMitha try to write [unix.se] in a comment or in chat

Pandya

9:10 AM

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 37 mins ago, by Pandya

in Suggestion Box, 29 secs ago, by Pandya

Which is better while talking about Stack Exchange network : site.sx or site.se ?

Faheem Mitha

@Pandya I've got an unlimited plan. It's a flat rate. Rs 1500 approx.

@Pandya Ok, noted.

Pandya

@FaheemMitha [As you want to know] I am a student of Mechanical Engineering under GTU

Faheem Mitha

@Pandya I see. How is GTU?

Pandya

....And That's why I've written "You can consider computing on GNU/Linux as one of my hobby/interest" in first line

Faheem Mitha

And (disclaimer) it isn't that I want to know personally, but people like to know stuff about each other. And that question is mostly meant for the "regulars". If you're just passing through, it's not necessary to answer it.

@Pandya I see.

We got a few good answers today. It would be nice if more of the high rep users answered the question.

Pandya

10:40 AM

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 38 mins ago, by Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

Only TeX uses SX (i.e. TeX.SX) and that's 'cause it rhymes.

I didn't understand exactly may you know @FaheemMitha

Faheem Mitha

11:45 AM

@Pandya I think they mean TeX and sex rhyme.

casey

2:20 PM

@FaheemMitha but TeX doesn't rhyme with sex ! TeX rhymes with tech

Faheem Mitha

@casey Well, it's close. And tell MAR, not me.

And how about writing a "getting to know you" answer? You should take inspiration from the recent answers.

casey

I have a short, old, rather uninformative and outdated answer there already.

Faheem Mitha

2:36 PM

@casey You do? Sorry, I must have missed it.

@casey Oh, yes. So you do. Sorry about that.

Jeff Schaller

68

Q: What is the correct pronunciation of TeX and LaTeX?

Is it tex(tech)? Or Is it tex(like touch)? Lay-TeX? or La-TeX? Should I use TeX pronunciation in LaTeX?

casey

@FaheemMitha no problem, its easy to miss with the 10k word articles others have been posting :)

Its too bad, DK didn't just write Te$\chi$ instead of TeX

Jeff Schaller

(and before Faheem nags me about it, I'm drafting up an answer for that meta question; it'll be ready in a couple years at this rate) :)

Faheem Mitha

@JeffSchaller Actually, I was planning to pester Anthony, assuming he hasn't frozen to death.

Haven't seen him around recently, though.

@casey Consider updating your answer, especially if it is out of date.

@casey Do you use R much?

casey

2:55 PM

@FaheemMitha once, for a quantitative analysis class that I refused to use Excel for

Faheem Mitha

@casey Ok. On balance you're better off without it in your life.

And yes, when it comes to Excel, the correct answer is no.

Faheem Mitha

5:29 PM

@JennyD So, what did you think of "Strange Visitor"?

Jenny D

@FaheemMitha I haven't seen that episode yet.

Faheem Mitha

@JennyD Ah. How behind are you?

Just finished watching it. Lots of drama.

Jenny D

@FaheemMitha I've seen Blood Bonds. Supergirl is one series that I watch together with my husband, so we usually get an ep or two on the weekend.

Faheem Mitha

@JennyD Ok. So 2 behind then.

Jenny D

Husband and I like some of the same series and some different ones. We usually keep one or two series that we watch together and then we binge separately on the others.

Faheem Mitha

5:35 PM

@JennyD Ok.

Well, it's good to have someone to watch stuff with.

Jenny D

@FaheemMitha yeah, it's nice to share the enjoyment

Jodka Lemon

6:45 PM

I am looking for debugging a problem with the Fn+DisableTouchpad-key under Debian Stretch and Gnome 3.18. Is it ok to create a new question for this? I am pretty sure this is a bug. Reporting a bug would be my idea, but I dont know against which package it is to reported.

Faheem Mitha

7:03 PM

@JodkaLemon Asking a question about a bug isn't off-topic (I've done it on occasion, especially if I wasn't sure it was a bug), but in many cases only the devs can help you. People here can often do little more than confirm that it is a bug.

edward torvalds

@mikeserv on Ubuntu initramfs is used to boot right, just like any other distro ?

mikeserv

@edwardtorvalds - Yeah.

edward torvalds

@mikeserv does this initramfs contains all modules that comes with kernel?

or just selected ones?

mikeserv

In truth - you cant not have initramfs. The closest you can come is compiling in a blank /.

That depends - i dunno how ubuntu does it. But you can found out - its just a cpio archive.

Just unpack it into some directory.

edward torvalds

@mikeserv I dont understand; there is a script on arch linux that generates initramfs

wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mkinitcpio

mikeserv

7:13 PM

mkinitramfs is really good, actually.

edward torvalds

better than initramfs?

mikeserv

And it doesnt by default compile all modules in.

Its just a script a script that builds your cpio archove.

Oh wait - mkinitcpio? Now im forgetting - but i think the latter.

Its what you use in Arch Linux to make your rootfs archive.

I think just lsinitcpio will list out the contents.

edward torvalds

yes, I mean mkinitcpio, it is next generation initramfs generator, so my question what is old generation one?

mikeserv

I think it can extract it too...

Well, just cpio.

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A: Encrypt hook in mkinitcpio.conf for full system encryption USB drive Arch install

Your hooks are all here: % ls /usr/lib/initcpio/{hooks,install} /usr/lib/initcpio/hooks: btrfs dmraid keymap mdadm mhwd-fb miso_loop_mnt net shutdown udev v86d consolefont encrypt lvm2 memdisk miso miso_pxe_nbd resume sleep usr /usr/lib/initcpio/install: au...

Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

@FaheemMitha BTW I'm a he.

@Pandya you can always ask me to explain. Don't be shy. :)

@Ter a message of yours was flagged and when I clicked "invalid", it told me it got deleted. I have no delight to dig graves, so let's just forget it.

So @Pan, sites on the Stack Exchange network use either
1. .SE: Biology.SE, Math.SE, Pets.SE etc. (some 90% of the sites use this)
2. Nothing: SU, SO, U&L, AU (some 9%, but my stats are prolly broken and this is less)
3. .SX: Only TeX.SX uses this.

Sorry guys if I interrupted any conversation going on, CC @Mike @Edward.

mikeserv

7:31 PM

I dont think so.

I dunno, though.

GeoMint

@terdon are you on?

edward torvalds

7:47 PM

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Q: How to use backspace as a shortcut in Nautilus to go up a directory or previous directory

I want to set Backspacekey as a short-cut that will either bring me up one directory (except for root) or will back me back to the directory I was last in (which every is possible) in Nautilus. I am using Gnome 3.18

nautilus

GeoMint

@HaukeLaging you can find people in ubuntu-gr.org facebook group facebook.com/groups/ubuntugr Their website its right now under maintenance

@HaukeLaging linux.gr post , HELLUG ( owns linux.gr ) shared a post at their Facebook Group

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