@FaheemMitha yeah, but then we'd have to close the one we have as a dupe of the new one and that would result in huge chains and blah blah. Not sure how this should be dealt with
@Braiam what is he talking about?
@Braiam What kind? I think I wrote one at some point
@FaheemMitha the simplest approach might be changing the wording of the question to make it more general.
So I started out with a 250GB HDD, the stock drive from an EeePC 1015pem that I am trying to turn into a MintBook. The drive is physically operable, but all data has been nuked, including the old OS. Given this, I attached the HDD to my desktop and installed Linux Mint 16 Xfce from a live USB cre...
Using processes
Looking at the output from a couple of ps commands that can detect the various versions of systemd & upstart could be crafted like so:
upstart
$ ps -eaf|grep [u]pstart
root 492 1 0 Jan02 ? 00:00:00 upstart-udev-bridge --daemon
root 1027 1 0 Jan02 ? ...
I saw a -15 since it was accepted on some other Q and is now not the accepted on this one
Exactly, basically I went out of my way to close another question as a dupe of the bash one and the one you answered and posted a chat message asking for a merge since Michael was around. I think Braiam then did the reasonable thing and flagged.
I'm always fine w/ setting canonical Q's up like this since they help us in the long run with linking to them
I cannot tell if you're just naive in asking your question or are making wild assumptions that just b/c you do not understand something that it's inherently overly complicated or bad vs. what you know. RPM works perfectly fine just as DEB files work perfectly fine. Choice is not a bad thing. Based on your logic when I walk into the hardware store there should only be one kind of hammer to go with the 100's of different nails available. Would that make any more sense? I think not! — slm10 secs ago
@Braiam @FaheemMitha
this stupid ass Q should be closed like 5 times over
@FaheemMitha I mean we've already closed a ton of Qs as dupes of that one, so the dupe chain would get complex. I edited the title and added a line to the end making it more general. Should be fine now
2) is not just wrong but misleading. He says that he needs to allow write permission but instead give a command to remove it.... what gives? — Braiam9 secs ago
@Braiam, I at least would like to know the answer for the question that he had put forth :) what happens when I write cat /proc/cpuinfo. Is that a named pipe to the OS which reads the CPU info on the fly and generate that text each time I call it?
@slm He's pretty active on photo.SE; I thought he was a mod there, but apparently not (or he was in the past). He was in their chat semi-recently, you can try there
@strugee "The new minimimalistic gedit interface helps you focus on the task at hand" Yeah, right, now I need to spend ten minutes looking for the change font menu or whatever. What is it with gnome and minimalism dammit?
I don't even understand what the hell those things represent, it makes me have to click 2 or 3 more times to get what I want and it just doesn't help.
I mean, OK, I use emacs which means I never use it's buttons but that's gedit not a real editor!
Try changing the encoding of a webpage in chrome
You need to go to that silly mah-jong button, then tools, then enoding, then choose the right one. At any one of those steps if you so much as move the mouse a millimeter off of the menu the whole thing collapses and you need to start all over again.
How is that a better UI?
And then they give you the most ridiculous reasons: "It helps you concentrate on what's important". I object to be treated like a 10-year old with attention deficit syndrome.
@strugee Bull, it's because I'm technically minded that I use the shortcuts. My parents aren't and can't make heads or tails out of this kind of interface. The buttons they can actually see
@FaheemMitha the gentoo system uses ebuilds to define packages. They have specific formats but in their most basic form they just list the package tarball URI and any patches that need to be fetched, integrate the portage USE flags into specific options passed to ./configure, then make && make install into a work directory and then copy that into your system.
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This has nothing to do with Debian, the problem you are experiencing happens long before the operating system is started. What is strange is that it only happens sometimes.
One possibility is that you have a failing hard drive. Check the output of
sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
You should see a l...
@casey are you are resident bash developer? or is that someone else?
and speaking of hard drives, I just got a really nice 120GB Intel SSD today, but I only realized I was missing cables for it when I opened it. I can't plug the thing in
Try this:
#!/bin/bash
while :
do
echo "Main Menu:"
echo -e "\t(a) More Menu Options "
echo -e "\t(b) Exit"
echo -n "Please enter your choice:"
read choice
case $choice in
"a"|"A")
;;
# show More Menu Options
"b"|"B")
exit
;;
*)
echo "invalid answer, ple...
"not an installer" - Arch uses .tar.xz (LZMA4) as its package format ;). and I believe Slackware uses tar.gzs, but don't quote me on that. — strugee4 mins ago
The fact that pacman extracts source from tgz does not make a tarball an installer any more than a zip file is.
@strugee yea, but they are used for software only, if only by convention. tarballs could have anything in them and do not have any functionality to install software.
That message is because you do not have permissions from that shell (root) to display GUI windows to the X server that I presume is running as your normal user.
In another window as your normal user:
$ xhost +
Then try it again. If it still does not work then you can try explicitly setting th...
In the man page of grep, I see
The symbols \< and \> respectively match the empty string at the beginning and
end of a word. The symbol \b matches the empty string at the edge of a word.
But I still can't figure out the difference. To me, \b is Perl's notation for word boundary, w...
@slm you certainly went to a lot of trouble with that user. you should invite people who need a lot of help into this chatroom. there is often little traffic and it is probably a more convenient place to answer questions.
To remove iptables i used yum :
# yum remove iptables -y
But this removed a lot of packages :
Remove 262 Package(s)
Installed size: 710 M
Downloading Packages:
Running rpm_check_debug
Running Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
Warning: RPMDB altered outside ...
@Braiam sensible-pager invokes less by default, but is customizable by the user by changing PAGER, falling back to pager which is configurable by the administrator through update-alternatives
X's logging behavior is:
If there is a /var/log/Xorg.DISPLAY.log, rename it to /var/log/Xorg.DISPLAY.log.old, overwriting any file that might be there.
Open /var/log/Xorg.DISPLAY.log, and begin logging to it.
Unfortunately, this isn't configurable, except in the sense all open-source software...
you quoted some lines in the X source which shows where the copying was happening. I think it would be good to include this in the answer.
@FaheemMitha once files are installed on gentoo you can do queries like any other distro (what versions are available, which versions are installed, what package does a file belong to, which files does a package own).
@FaheemMitha As far as what is done to a compiled package, its contents are merged into the filesystem (handling any pre/post-install hooks) and its files and some other stuff recorded into the portage database. There is no compiled package after that though (you could create one from the contents laying around your filesystem I guess) and a reinstall will force a recompile.
@casey So binary packages like debs and rpms don't exist in gentoo. support you want to make a precompiled gentoo package available? is there no "container" in which on can do so?
@FaheemMitha not in the traditional sense, no. The binary packages are essentially the same as the source packages, just different contents. The ebuild file for a binary package lists a binary tarball instead of a source tarball to fetch and then the configure/make/make install steps are NOPs and then the work tree is merged into the filestystem
and binary packages only exist for a very small subset of the total portage tree
# Copyright 1999-2014 Gentoo Foundation # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2 # $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/sci-libs/netcdf-fortran/netcdf-fortran-4.2.ebuild,v 1.5 2014/02/27 18:33:09 bicatali Exp $
DESCRIPTION="Scientific library and interface for array oriented data access" HOMEPAGE="http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/netcdf/" SRC_URI="ftp://ftp.unidata.ucar.edu/pub/netcdf/${P}.tar.gz"
That is about as simple as ebuilds get
I could probably find a simpler one, but I don't have the fortitude to look
Hi @Kiwy... thanks for your response. I didn't create a question because I think I couldn't formulate clearly the question. There's some configurations in our network that I don't understand, like iptables and dyndns.
when you make your question, please include some basic info on your network layout. It is important to know if the debian server is for public facing computer or if there are devices (routers, other computers) ahead of it. Likewise it is important to know if the debian box has a routable IP or if is behind NAT
sorry... @casey The debian server is for web development with git, php, mysql... but we need to turn visible on the internet this server using the dyndns. In our network, we have some iptables rules in our firewall, a SQL server and two windows servers
true. or there would be no work for the committees
some things are a lot simpler and so some standard wouldn't have a place. For example there really is no such thing as a release with gentoo and no separate repos for stable/unstable/testing/exprimental
there is just portage, and individual packages are keyworded to specify which arch they work on and the if they are stable or not
@FaheemMitha for big archs like amd64 the individual teams handle the stable keywording (e.g. the KDE team handles it for all KDE packages). For small archs there is no such thing as stable
if you stay with stable only you wont have problems. If you go with pure unstable you'll probably have some. I indidually accept keywords so I choose what I want to push
e.g. you can put lines in /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords, or into files in /etc/portage/package.keywords/ to override. A line like >=dev-python/basemap-1.0.1 ~amd64 means I'll accept the ~amd64 keyword on any version of that package greater or equal to v 1.0.1
If this machine were debian it would be running sid, so out of date isn't too big an issue (though for some packages it might be). I'll go with flexibility then. I need performance from this machine and being able to configure every package just how I need it (through USE flags) is a big help toward that goal
Using processes
Looking at the output from a couple of ps commands that can detect the various versions of systemd & upstart could be crafted like so:
upstart
$ ps -eaf|grep [u]pstart
root 492 1 0 Jan02 ? 00:00:00 upstart-udev-bridge --daemon
root 1027 1 0 Jan02 ? ...
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This has nothing to do with Debian, the problem you are experiencing happens long before the operating system is started. What is strange is that it only happens sometimes.
One possibility is that you have a failing hard drive. Check the output of
sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
You should see a l...
Try this:
#!/bin/bash
while :
do
echo "Main Menu:"
echo -e "\t(a) More Menu Options "
echo -e "\t(b) Exit"
echo -n "Please enter your choice:"
read choice
case $choice in
"a"|"A")
;;
# show More Menu Options
"b"|"B")
exit
;;
*)
echo "invalid answer, ple...
In the man page of grep, I see
The symbols \< and \> respectively match the empty string at the beginning and
end of a word. The symbol \b matches the empty string at the edge of a word.
But I still can't figure out the difference. To me, \b is Perl's notation for word boundary, w...
To remove iptables i used yum :
# yum remove iptables -y
But this removed a lot of packages :
Remove 262 Package(s)
Installed size: 710 M
Downloading Packages:
Running rpm_check_debug
Running Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
Warning: RPMDB altered outside ...
X's logging behavior is:
If there is a /var/log/Xorg.DISPLAY.log, rename it to /var/log/Xorg.DISPLAY.log.old, overwriting any file that might be there.
Open /var/log/Xorg.DISPLAY.log, and begin logging to it.
Unfortunately, this isn't configurable, except in the sense all open-source software...
