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4:50 PM

Heyo!

Anyone knows systemd well? How is this supposed to work: gist.github.com/moschlar/9b57eec3a2a8483e7e43? (I am not asking where to place those files) what do those socket things mean? Where is all this documented?

@AwalGarg Systemd is the Spawn of Satan. Or so I reliably informed.

But in any case, this probably isn't the best place to ask. Maybe a suitable IRC channel?

@FaheemMitha oh, ok, thanks. Would you happen to know such an IRC channel?

@AwalGarg My guess would be #systemd on freenode. Hang on a sec and I'll check.

alright, thanks!

Bingo.

5:04 PM

Ok, I'll ask around there. Btw, can I, for now, just have the git daemon command run automatically on startup somehow? Not on user login, on system boot?

There certainly is a channel called that. Not sure how active it is, but there are lots of people idling there. If you don't already have a preference, I suggest irccloud. It's not ideal, but it's simple enough to use.

@AwalGarg I didn't even know there was a git daemon. I really should try to keep up.

@FaheemMitha It isn't actually used much, and it isn't even git daemon specific. I just have a command which I want to run on system startup after all mounts from fstab are done. Possible?

@AwalGarg I wouldn't know, sorry. On Unix, all things are possible, so probably yes.

hehe, thanks a lot anyways :)

6 hours later…

11:12 PM

I want to buy a replacement HDD for a dead laptop (Dell Precision M4500). I am looking at SATA II and III and would obviously prefer III. Are the two compatible? Can I safely assume that the laptop can deal with a SATA III?
If not, how can I tell whether the HDD (which is now in an external case being abused by ddrescue) is a SATA II or III?

mikeserv

@terdon: kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/8142/~/…

Gilles

@terdon I think a III disk will work on a II host, at II speed of course. There's usually a label on the disk, otherwise hdparm -I /dev/sda would tell you if the disk was plugged on SATA, I don't know if you can get the information if it's over USB

you should ask on SU chat, there are usually hardware experts hanging around

Q: Running a script during booting/startup; init.d vs cron @reboot

> SATA II specifications provide backward compatibility to function on SATA I ports. SATA III specifications provide backward compatibility to function on SATA I and SATA II ports. However, the maximum speed of the drive will be slower due to the lower speed limitations of the port.

@mikeserv Thanks

@Gilles Thanks, I have.

Gilles

I am currently trying to understand the difference between init.d and cron @reboot for running a script at startup/booting of the system. The use of @reboot (this method was mentioned in this forum by hs.chandra) is some what simpler, by simply going into crontab -e and creating a @reboot /some...

bash debian cron init-script init.d

11:39 PM

Wow! Arch is really cool:

Net Upgrade Size:       -0.78 MiB

pacman? not so much.

@terdon wait, is that a negative?

@Seth It's great for what it is, it doesn't deal with packages after all.

@Seth Yup :)

Total Download Size:    32.30 MiB
Total Installed Size:  125.55 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:       -0.78 MiB

hah

nice

@terdon eh, I suppose.

Yeah, never seen that before.

I kinda like the idea of no packages, but I do not like pacman.

11:41 PM

Well, I'm getting used to it. I don't know it anywhere near as well as I know apt but I also haven't needed to yet.

It's been about 1-2 months that I've been using Arch as my main distro and haven't seen a dependency hell yet.

Which is not to say that I expect that to last.

I've been using apt for 5 years or so now and never ran into dependency hell..

Not to say I haven't had a dependency error, but it was always either a simple fix or me doing something stupid. Usually the latter.

Gilles

you must be too young to have known the times when upgrading to a new Debian release would break on a machine that had too many packages installed because the dependency calculations overflowed the old apt's hard-coded memory limitations

and upgrading apt first would run into dependency hell because apt → python-apt → python → …

fortunately I think the apt developer finally found out about realloc or std::vector or whatever fancy variable-sized data structures exist in C++