Woo! It's only taken 5 days, but now structs work in Brainchild!

I can have Wide-types!

is that the integer-only language?

The one-and-only

Or I guess, there are many others

But the one in question

Oh I just realized it fully breaks generics because they never expect to get a wide type.

What are your thoughts on pairs of people who ride one single bicycle? 'cause I cants tandem

how long did you spend refining that one

Not long at all actually

Maybe 5m

crazy

saw these in the tags of a blog post

slight problem

> in Word Documents

we love SEO

I've been making a dictionary/jargon file sorta thing for CMU and I couldn't resist adding one little joke:

I have never felt so much like a spy in a movie as I did today, I tailed someone as they badged through a secured door and followed them all the way to an elevator without ever being noticed

whoa

Ended up finally making it down to some restricted-access areas I've been wanting to go to for a while, turns out its mostly just HVAC stuff and some X-ray equipment for the materials science department

which was directly below the HVAC stuff, so hopefully it wasn't on at the time :p

I also found a very alluring trapdoor. I thought that the F-level basement was the lowest this building had (which is already like what, 60 feet belowground?), but I could see through a gap that there was a very large area under this trapdoor

I tried for ages to find something to get the trapdoor open but no luck

@rydwolf is MIT actually smaller than CMU?

that got nuked so fast it's actually crazy

kid named spam

→ 1 gas meme eaten by soved to The Nineteh kr

we love smokey

MVP

I tried to do an anagram but ran out of edit time

pfffff

@emanresuA edit time?

that exists?

Window to edit a message

pretty small :P

It's two minutes IIRC

woah I didn't know that exists

I guess I need to think up a better anagram for next time

maybe

Can you keep moving the message back and forth to reset the edit time?

I assume not

Since it's still the same message ID

better idea: copy and paste out the message and edit in a text box

But that could be simulated by editing the new move message that that move generates

@emanresuA just realised this was tagged with abstract-algebra

damn that must be some very very abstract algebra

They always have the weirdest tags

@UnrelatedString waltuh, put your post away waltuh. I'm not having post from you right now Waltuh.

Archived all my ChatGPT chats.

There is no unarchive all button so manually unarchived the first few chats.

Realized they are embedded right at the front of my chat history and not actually in order.

@emanresuA isn't it jsut the first tag in the list alphabetically?

Yes if you ignore the two numeric ones

ah, beans

We should make a new tag "aaaa-spam" and automtaically delete any post with that tag

... until someone actually tries using it

PSA: If y'all have a web apps account, or want to make one, it'd be great if y'all could go over and send some spam flags their way. They're under heavy spam wave attack and a lot of chq regulars and mods have had their spam flags dried up

That's the site

Good time to post more spam

Ok I used up all my spam flags :salute:

🫡

@lyxal Kiinally I kan do komekhing kseful.

This is spam right?

Yes

In fact, the first 26 pages of new questions are spam (allegedly)

New spam is still coming in

29 now

Might need staff to interfeire, don't think a few spam flags will do much

Community emergencies have been raised several hours ago

Plus it's the current thing being discussed in TL

until either web apps mods or cms join for the day, spam flags are the best thing people can do

Every little bit helps

Alright, used up all my flags.

although at ten flags per user and six flags per question we're not accomplishing much

unless I create sockpuppets to fight the sockpuppets, which would be funny but is probably against the tos

@emanresuA Something that has been duly noted in several places

I would say something here but I will not.

what do the flags even do?

like the mods aren't here to clean it up, obviously, so raising a flag to tell them something is spam is...?

Posts with enough flags get automatically deleted.

^

ohh

6 community spam flags delete a post without mod intervention

yeah we're not going to achieve much

Although at the rate it's incoming at, deleting singular posts will not do much.

However I don't really want to make everyone lose morale and this has already been addressed.

@Themoonisacheese something is better than nothing

So uhhh yeah.

true

Exactly what Lyxal said.

In terms of effectiveness of existing tools, I imagine that's something that'll be looked into after the wave is over

Wait.

On the room info page it is saying 99.6k stars.

However on the chatroom it is saying only 32.6k stars.

Stack'll do their usual round of IP bans

@192927376337929292283737373773 message count v total stars

What happened to the 67k.

Oh.

99.6k accounts for how many stars per message

Oh, alright.

@emanresuA given that the existing volunteer systems are well and truly overwhelmed and overloaded rn, chances are there might be some priority given to expanding tools

If SE is actually sensible

About 0.0001% of all messages are starred, if I am doing this correct.

One thing they could do is change the limit for spam/R&A flags I guess

What kind of tools do mods have exactly?

Generally speaking, unilateral versions of what y'all can do

i made a meta post

oh

I upvoted.

Problem is that the mods for WA are allegedly in time zones where it's sleeping time

Interesting that all the spam accounts have the "informed" badge

Not all.

I just found one that doesn't.

My sample size was 2

I gtg for a bit

A lot of users are getting them.

I guess it's the easiest badge to automatically get, since you just need to load a page

But I wonder why specifically.

Are they trying to make us think that they are real users because they read the tour?

The number of badges is visible on every post, but not which specific ones

Comment of the day:

@mousetail The mods that would go to userpages would see the badges.

Although it is not like it is going to work.

Has anyone nominated the users for deletion yet?

I don't think they think they have any chance at fooling mods

Just automated systems and particularly stupid users

automated systems is the point

Not sure if it makes any difference but it won't soon

hope this answer doesn't break "language made especially for the challenge", the idea existed long before (proof in this room) and the feature is based on the normal mathematics equivalent

Honestly I would say not being able to answer dozens of challenges in a language just because that language was made after those challenges even without any intention to specifically exploit to gain a ground in those challenges is a stupid rule.

@192927376337929292283737373773 That's why that rule no longer exists

i thought "language made specifically for a challenge" still existed?

Yes but not really

The point of the standard loopholes is mostly as a list of jokes that are no longer funny

Yes, but the release date doesn't matter

so i'm fine?

Hmm.

So they are make like guidelines.

@RubenVerg I would say yes.

Your answer is fine, it's neither a joke nor uninteresting :p

I think Madeline is fine, that language can answer many other challenges too

@mousetail (she prefers madeline, or something other than that)

many other challenges where the only requirements are adding and subtracting and multiplying integers and naturals and constructing pairs(:

@emanresuA thanks was about to say "check bio"

Sorry

Yep.

Why don't you change your username?

A language that happens to have a builtin for the challenge != a language specifically built for the challenge

> please call me RubenVerg or Madeline or Maddie, but not Ruben

RubenVerg is fine, the one without isn't

What about "Verg"?

That is destined to lead to acres of confusion.

weird

@192927376337929292283737373773 oh i don't mind correcting people as long as it's in good faith

@mousetail i guess you could definitely call me that but it's kinda weird

Not everyone is going to check the bio.

@192927376337929292283737373773 it's also respectful not to repeat something i ask you not to use

I was not using that to refer to you.

I was just saying that people first are going to think of that foremost.

Especially when your name shortens.

again, i don't mind that if it's in good faith

Sure...

You can change your display name

I was just saying that it would be far more useful and productive to just change your name to say like Verg instead of RubenVerg for example.

Deal with this, pronoun bot

preferred name as a pronoun userscript feature would be nice

Yeah.

I do agree display name should just be set to your preferred name

isn't this also a feature of pronouns.page?

Considering that you can only change your display name a month,

or am i tripping

I don't think there is a good reason to change your preferred name more than once a month

or if you have several nicknames that people can youse.

It would be nice to have a script that below your name shows a few alternate names.

Keeping track if nicknames in a public chatroom with people constantly coming in and out is a recepie for confusion

→ 1 message moved to The Nineteenth Bakery

not cool, please don't

You would just do the most common nicknames.

@emanresuA I was using it as an example.

You people are really sensitive.

@emanresuA thanks(:

Anyways.

The issue is when someone talks about "Kiara" and that is actually the third nickame of "Gregory the Great"

@192927376337929292283737373773 I am. so what?

Nobody would know what that person was talking about without checking every single persons bio

Please don't make this the second time today I have to deal with this nonsense

@mousetail I mean the chance that there are two users Kiara and Gregory the Great with the same nicknames / usernames is unlikely.

It's the same user, one is a nickname for the other

But how likely is that actually?

And this sounds more like a nitpick.

It's literally the situation right now, people have nicknames that don't obviously relate to their usernames

At least one specific user

one specific user?

Please stay out of this @TheEmptyStringPhotographer

Look I fail to gauge how that's a problem.

Username is A.

Nickname is B.

You use A or B.

Actually there should be a way to make a preferred nickname.

So that highlights out of A, B, C and D, you should use B.

@TheEmptyStringPhotographer should i interpret "null" as a neopronoun, referring to "no pronouns" or an attempt at a joke?

repsectively valid, valid, not valid

@RubenVerg no pronouns

Person C is trying to follow what happens in the chat room and has no idea what's going in since they don't know A and B are the same person

Although you could just make that the only nickname and assume people would only use B.

@TheEmptyStringPhotographer alright thanks for clarifying

@mousetail Considering it would below A's username, their nickname, B, it wouldn't be a problem. Of course it would be if they don't have the script.

Most people don't have the script

...which is most users

Although you could probably gauge from context who is being referred to.

@mousetail I mean like most users don't have the pronouns script.

Either.

the solution is to just call people by username i guess

Yes, but knowing pronouns isn't nececairly for following the conversation

Like 0.0001% of all users have any script installed or something in that ballpark.

@mousetail It is.

Especially if user A has a username like John, but uses she/her actually.

I kinda assume any pronoun just refers to the last mentined person regardless of gender

So you can assume any nickname just refers to the last mentioned person.

Pronouns can only refer to one or two people at most, nicknames can potentially refer to a infinite number of people

Also there is the reply feature.

@mousetail Context.

@Themoonisacheese what an interesting idea! how'd you come up with it?

The person talked about doesn't even need to be in the chat room at the time at all

i'm something of a scientist myself

(i was not completely ready for this conversation)

@Themoonisacheese This isn't even related at all to that.

This is about a hypothetical nicknames user script.

Respecting other peoples' chosen identity? Never heard of it

i'm not sure how to convey this

And we are not even talking about people's identity.

it is

@emanresuA res– pect? what's that?

@emanresuA This conversation isn't even about that.

@RubenVerg Try doing that with the 192 person

i propose: copy paste. i also propose: tagging and then deleting the @ if you don't want a ping. i also propose: "they" after you've done a) or b) once

Chat doesn't even show the full username after single line messages so you can't even copy paste

oh, do I see the full name just because i'm using the pronoun script?

I see a different number of digits in each message

Btw I tried changing my display name but it doesn't seem to have effected chat

the correct solution is asking them if they have a shorter name to use and to put it somewhere where it's accessible enough and then if someone is reading and doesn't understand even after clicking the bios of the people involved they, you know, ask.

@mousetail if it's anything like the image it takes a while

Ah it now updated

@192927376337929292283737373773 you used the wrong name for someone- happens. you got corrected and i assume you understand, that's not the issue. the issue is that if everytime someone corrects someone the discution derails into talking about "the problem of names and pronous", it doesn't really feel like this is a space in which you can correct people who earnestly make a mistake.

@mousetail'he-him' I know :p

Fun

looks fine for me

The cut of version is enough to show my pronouns so I guess the rest is unnececairy

@RubenVerg pfft imagine having to wait for the system to register the update

Made by refresh profile button gang

@Themoonisacheese this has always been a good space to be in

always sad to see people that make it less so

and thankfully I have a magic button to keep it that way, which I try to avoid using

screenshot of magic button

🔨

thought it would look cooler, they should make an user style where it's like red with flames and hammers

Need a userscript for that

there's a vencord plugin that adds a random banned gif to the ban confirm thing on discord

Random challenge idea: code golf duct tape - gluing together solutions to various challenges with (I/O format transforming only) glue scripts to achieve an overall task. E.g. you could implement the nth triangle number by multiplying n by itself, adding n and shifting right by half a bit twice

It'd need a more rigid spec to work well - you'd want to use actual answers to those challenges rather than their specs, both for observability and to allow some quirky exploits with unintended inputs

Constants would be quite difficult to get, which could be quite interesting. The way I was thinking of setting it up was as a cops-and-robbers - cops specify a task and a "par" of the number of solutions they've used (or, number of times they've used solutions), robbers try and tie or beat that. Looping would be extremely difficult (to the point where it's possible people might have to invoke interpreter challenges, although that'd be extremely expensive) but I think it'd be interesting

that'd be fun

hell but fun, i think it makes sense to either makes it a cops & robbers, or to you yourself be the only cop, and you have to find a solution before posting the question

Cops and robers could be fun, using only solutions posted by the cop

CMR: Bonobo - Expander music.youtube.com/watch?v=LKp8eYIaZ_U

@emanresuA me omw omw to post 1 byte answers everywhere

🔔that's a loophole

creates challenge for every vyxal builtin

there's a loophole for language created for challenge not challenge created for language!

there's a loophole for insider golfing

@Themoonisacheese spread over time and in otherwise unnoticeable ways

damn this guy is good

You'll never know which answers are for duct tape until it's too late

@Themoonisacheese ah

I could have even started already

And you could be too late to stop me!

@Themoonisacheese link?

You'll never trust 1 byte answers ever again

Cadence installs moment

@RubenVerg my source is i made it the fuck up

I have just discovered my laptop has been playing the Balatro ost for the last 5 hours despite the fact the lid was down

i just really wanted to use the phrase insider golfing

fair enough(:

wanted the link just to convince everyone i know with an account to downvote it until it's no longer valid /s

(but also taking advantage of prior info to get an edge in golfing isn't really cool :)

@lyxal That game seems to have a lot more depth than I thought looking at it

isn't answering your own challenge disencouraged anyways?

@mousetail'he-him' sure does

@Themoonisacheese and is in some cases a loophole

@RubenVerg I do it anyways

But usually wait a few days first

@lyxal when my jf plays balatro while i'm falling asleep i ask them to enable the game music even when they're watching a show on headphones

@RubenVerg straight away it is

balatro is peak

71 hours in the last month agrees

I've been playing a lot of this demo last few days: store.steampowered.com/app/2667120/Ballionaire

can't load steam links at work, what is it?

Not very balanced or deep

I've seen MurphyObv and rofflelite play that

Plus thunk recommend it too

@Themoonisacheese pachinko roguelike

oh fun

Not to be confused with peglin

isn't there a new balatro update like, right around now?

You built the perfect combos only for the ball to bounce the wrong way every time

@Themoonisacheese cosmetic update

oh

Friends of jimbo 2

Although for mobile players (like me) there was some bug fixes

apparently being able to see the sell value of jokers on amber acorn was a bug

@lyxal ah ok

is it so you don't pre-golf?

Mostly so you give others a chance iinm

More just "give other people a chance"

ninja'd

@Themoonisacheese new card themes

I'll put screenshots in the gaming room

I pre-golf but then only post it later