The Nineteenth Byte

user

20:00

My irl name is somehow taken up everywhere too :(

@Ginger Tbf, caird is a pretty unique username, "caird coinheringaahing" is, at this point, my personal unique calling card

user

But somehow I was able to use it as my college email username, which is confusing

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nice

caird coinheringaahin g

Okay, so a discord server I have with my friends has a #quotes channel for stupid/funny stuff we say. The most recent thing I was quoted as saying in that channel was

> "Pegging is when you rotate your penis 90 degrees into the complex plan"

I have no shame

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maybe everyone with it before you didn't bother trying :P

user

20:01

@cairdcoinheringaahing That's really nice actually, you can use the same username everywhere instead of having to tell people that you're caird000 on one site and theothercaird on another and so on

Ginger

@cairdcoinheringaahing TNB quotes when

Bbrk24

There’s one account I have that’s bbrk_24 because bbrk24 was taken

caird coinheringaahin g

@Ginger That's called the starboard

Rydwolf Programs

I sure do love how delightfully functional chat's UI is

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so true

Ginger

20:02

@RydwolfPrograms ooh, nice PFP

Rydwolf Programs

I'll post the script I generated it with

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing lol

Ginger

@cairdcoinheringaahing well you got me there

caird coinheringaahin g

@RydwolfPrograms It is both the worst, and best chat system I've used

Rydwolf Programs

gist.github.com/Radvylf/d53fbe2d9aa9911af1a7c9bd122c9988

Bbrk24

20:02

@RydwolfPrograms don’t you have your own

Ginger

(obligatory plug for the tool I made and used to make my PFP)

user

I do remember you talking about that before (having no shame, that is), although chat search is awful so I can't fin dit

Bbrk24

> <title>WP Ukraine</title>

Ginger

@cairdcoinheringaahing exactly

Rydwolf Programs

@RydwolfPrograms (ignore all the "ukrainian" in the code this was previously used by me for making my Ukraine flag pfp variant)

user

20:03

I don't know why but I'm getting confused between Ginger and Bbrk's pfps now

Ginger

@user ~~colorblind?~~

Rydwolf Programs

@Bbrk24 No, I wasn't one of the people making a custom chat UI

user

@Ginger No I guess they both just look gradient-y?

Rydwolf Programs

I've meant to for ages tho, since long before the contest

Bbrk24

ah

@user When I first set this on discord, like five of my friends were also gradients and it was amazing

caird coinheringaahin g

20:04

@RydwolfPrograms Ngl, Samuel Liew's one is really good

user

Oh no

Ginger

@RydwolfPrograms your PFP looks a bit odd to me since the top and center colors kinda blend into each other

Rydwolf Programs

Yeah

I tried to somewhat fix that by upping the saturation, but it only helped to a certain degree

There's just not much in the top two fifths of my pfp

Bbrk24

I know someone who overlaid the bi flag on their pfp for pride month one year, but then lost the original so now it’s just permanently that

Rydwolf Programs

lol

user

20:05

lol

Ginger

lol

user

I think that happened to a server I was in (a low-quality version of the server logo was later recovered)

Rydwolf Programs

Actually I should just move the pawprint up a pixel shouldn't I

Bbrk24

@user The server I’m thinking of goes by the acronym CDN

Rydwolf Programs

That still won't put the primary part of it in the pink zone at all, but more of the toes would be

Ginger

20:06

t o e s

I don't like that phrasing

Bbrk24

oh, no, pfp, not server picture

Rydwolf Programs

Yeah it didn't feel like the right word lol

But I couldn't think of another

Ginger

I think the word you're looking for is "beans"

user

@Bbrk24 A Discord server used as a content delivery network? Interesting idea :P

Bbrk24

That’s not what it stands for :P

Ginger

20:07

*tragic wormhole intensifies*

Bbrk24

:Þ

Ginger

no, that was a botched keyboard shortcut

Rydwolf Programs

Not much better but eh

Ginger

it's a bit better

emanresu A

Heh, I still have the pride month PFP from last year

Ginger

20:08

did your PFP ever not look like that?

Rydwolf Programs

Yeah it was all magenta

Bbrk24

@RydwolfPrograms It’s much better in places where it’s bigger, like your chat bio

Ginger

it WAS?

Rydwolf Programs

Like how I draw it in SE Nitro

user

Did it use to be a gravatar?

Ginger

20:08

wow

emanresu A

Hold on I'll find it

Rydwolf Programs

It used to be an identicon before that yeah

Seggan

@RydwolfPrograms wait you drew it there?

Bbrk24

~~petition to make user get a rainbow gravatar~~

emanresu A

Rydwolf Programs

20:09

But honestly "A username" with a blue identicon feels like an entirely different person to me

emanresu A

^

Ginger

^

user

Ooh I remember that

We drew that in Canvas, right?

Rydwolf Programs

@Seggan Yeah emanresu is one of the plats

Seggan

I don't remember emanresu before the rainbow

Rydwolf Programs

20:09

In the apartment

emanresu A

Yeah I think so

Seggan

@RydwolfPrograms oh yeah

user

@Bbrk24 lol gimme a minute

Rydwolf Programs

Where has Aaron been?

Are they still in Vyxal?

Ginger

nope

user

20:10

He's been inactive :(

Ginger

we haven't seen him for quite a while, sadly

Bbrk24

I can set a flag pfp when I get home today

Rydwolf Programs

Emanresu's old pfp was drawn on Canvas several times

Ginger

oh, I remember that

Rydwolf Programs

Y'all can probably find screenshots of it in the Canvas room I'd bet

Ginger

20:10

those were the days

Rydwolf Programs

Well just wait for next April

I have plans

Ginger

~~I do have a copy of the Canvas code, so maybe they can be the days again~~

emanresu A

@RydwolfPrograms Tell me when you want me to push it

Ginger

@RydwolfPrograms well now I'm extremely concerned

user

@Ginger I think his last message was in April of 2022

Rydwolf Programs

20:11

@emanresuA Will do. Probably won't update the viewer until the last chapter's added tho

Ginger

whenever you say things like that you either 1. forget about it and never mention it again or 2. unleash some unholy thing upon an unsuspecting world

speaking of: what happened to the "infinite products store" story?

Rydwolf Programs

I've told you about this plan in particular haven't I

Ginger

ohhhhhh that one?

Seggan

Huh?

Rydwolf Programs

We even discussed it in campfire recently

Ginger

20:12

yeah I know the one

Rydwolf Programs

mhm

Ginger

the thing we do on the day we do the thing where we do the thing we do not do?

Rydwolf Programs

I think I'll do it for a winter holiday present instead of an april fools one tho

Ginger

&thumbsup;

Rydwolf Programs

So I still have 6 months to procrastinate :p

I think part of why my pfp looks weird is I didn't change the saturation or lightness of the stripes, just the hue, and the stripes of the bi flag are probably of differing lightnesses

Like the purple stripe is definitely too bright

Ginger

20:14

agreed

Rydwolf Programs

I'll probably leave it tho, mostly out of laziness :p

Ginger

relatable

Rydwolf Programs

you gotta wait 2m to make fun of people's typos :p

Distract them in another room with a ping to be extra sneaky

Ginger

~~do not quote the dark magic to me Rydwolf~~

Rydwolf Programs

Oh right lyxal has probably taught you all the tricks :p

Seggan

20:15

@RydwolfPrograms hmm I wonder if that's a client or server side restriction...

Ginger

yup

user

I was too lazy to figure out how to overlay images so imma just do a straight rainbow flag lol

Ginger

I am mastering the fine arts of going a little trolling

@user use the tool I made!

user

What tool?

Rydwolf Programs

@Seggan server side

Ginger

20:16

ginger.rto.community/prideifier.html

it's a bit janky but it does work

Seggan

How u know?

Ginger

because it yells at you if you wait for too long

user

@Ginger Ooh that's nice

Rydwolf Programs

I've done my best to figure out how chat returns various error states

Ginger

and said yelling is contained in the server's response to the edit

@user thanks!

user

20:17

Bit time-consuming to add all the stripes tho

Ginger

ik ik

Rydwolf Programs

You should have prefixes for the generic pride flag and the bi flag

Ginger

I made it in 10m okay?

Rydwolf Programs

Oh also I know this is pointless pedantry but your bi flag has the wrong center stripe width :p

user

Yeah not criticizing just a potential feature to add later

Rydwolf Programs

20:18

(so does mine tho since 16 doesn't divide by 5 :p)

Ginger

@RydwolfPrograms it also has a row of un-overlayed pixels at the very bottom because of a rounding error somewhere in the code d:

and now you can't unsee it

Rydwolf Programs

Never have I been so happy for downscaling

Because I can't see it :p

Ginger

I can, and it bugs me every time I look at it

but whatever

user

@Bbrk24 I don't get why people go so crazy for lions during June but there, I changed my pfp

Ginger

nice

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20:24

:P

Ginger

ugh, and now I'm going to confuse user with emanresu

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same lmao

Ginger

I've really hoisted myself by my own petard here

tangent: for the longest time I thought a "petard" was an article of clothing and just recently learned it's actually a kind of explosive

"hoisted by his own petard" basically means "<the bomb-maker was> yeeted by his own bomb"

Rydwolf Programs

You're the only person I've ever heard say "hoisted by [their] own petard"

Ginger

TV Tropes has ruined my vocabulary

Rydwolf Programs

20:28

Ah it's from Shakespeare

Ginger

(also if we're being really pedantic you didn't hear me say it q:) (unless you're using a screen-reader)

Rydwolf Programs

actually I can hear your thoughts

Ginger

how the hell are you still friends with me

Rydwolf Programs

when you can read people's thoughts your standards go down

Ginger

ah

I just looked at your PFP at a larger scale and the single-pixel offset of the beans looks so weird

I unconsciously know how it's supposed to look and having it be subtly different is really messing with me

Rydwolf Programs

20:31

The pawprint is 11×11, which is annoying

pxeger

20:55

can't you just offset the flag relative to the pfp, so the middle stripe isn't in the actual middle of the pfp but it is in the "visual" middle?

Bbrk24

21:13

Okay I have a few options for pride pfps

I could just make my pfp a flag

but I also have this:

I've set that as my pfp on a couple discord servers

What do you guys think?

Ginger

&thumbsup;

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it's pretty good yeah

in other news

cubari.moe/read/gist/…

Ginger

what that

Unrelated String

who ever said anything about needing to improve our own reader for se nitro :P

2 hours ago, by Unrelated String

actually wait maybe i'll make one of those custom gist sources for cubari lmao

wait was that two fucking hours ago

Ginger

how the time flies

Unrelated String

21:19

@user but yeah you can use arrow key navigation now

Seggan

@UnrelatedString oooh

Bbrk24

why is mathscat the antagonist?

Ginger

~~why not~~

there's a lot of TNB lore behind it; ask Rydwolf for better info

Bbrk24

I really don't understand a lot of this, maybe because I haven't been here that long

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i don't understand any of it at all :P

Ginger

21:22

@Bbrk24 I've been here since it started and I still only understand like half of it :p

it's fun tho

Bbrk24

Actually, I want to do something with my pfp, but the image editing tools I have may not be powerful enough

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Bbrk24

@Bbrk24 basically this, but the symbol has stripes like the flag, but with a black outline to divide the flag from my gradient

Ginger

sounds possible with Inkscape

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smart

Ginger

21:25

you'd have to do a little messing with clipping shapes

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yeah it sounds like you just need to get vector data for the symbol

Bbrk24

Yeah but I only have paint.net

Ginger

but if you clip the flag with the symbol it should work

Bbrk24

The problem isn't the symbol-shaped flag, it's the black outline

Ginger

if you can get me an SVG of the symbol I can probably do it

(and also hex codes for the gradient)

(and also an image of the flag)

Bbrk24

21:26

Sure, one moment

You can get the gradient from my current pfp though

Ginger

I guess, but it'd work better if you could give me the hex codes

Bbrk24

~~let me introduce you to the eyedropper tool~~

Ginger

~~eyedropper is too imprecise~~

Bbrk24

Also I don't have an SVG of the symbol, just a big (760x1052) PNG

Ginger

there's probably one online if you do some googling

Bbrk24

21:29

paint.net is a bitmap editor, it doesn't support svg, so I generally have no reason to keep svg's. Plus, the original source I got it from is that png

I just took static.wikia.nocookie.net/gender/images/8/86/… and removed the white background

Ginger

hmm

found an SVG on Commons

Bbrk24

21:41

@Ginger No worries if not, but I would appreciate it

I just thought of something that might be funny
if I change it, but only on Workplace

Ginger

@Bbrk24 I'll take care of it in six to eight weeks™️

@Bbrk24 lol

Bbrk24

I probably won't do that

In other news:

twitter.com/operagxofficial/status/1664281904357707777

Ginger

it'd be funny tho

@Bbrk24 approval

Bbrk24

@Ginger That'd mean I'd have to set my chat parent user to workplace though

Ginger

Opera's got a hell of a marketing department

@Bbrk24 nah

If you just change it on workplace it'd be fine

ohhh you want it to display in chat too

Bbrk24

21:50

yeah

Ginger

damn shame it doesn't run on ARM tho

Bbrk24

What doesn't?

Ginger

GX

I might actually consider using it if it did

Bbrk24

ah

Seggan

CMP: would yall be interesting in a site wide competition to create a text compressor? the texts would be secretly chosen by the judge (but with hints as to their content given ofc) and the compressor with the best average compression ratio over the texts wins

Bbrk24

21:54

import gzip

Seggan

gzip is a general use compressor though (not just for text), and optimized for things like speed and memory

Bbrk24

you know someone's going to do something of that nature, though

Seggan

SSS beats gzip for shorter texts 99.9999% of the time

@Bbrk24 i plan to benchmark standard algos too

Bbrk24

@Ginger Do you have a more serious estimate? I just want to know if I should upload the version I have for now or if it'll be okay to wait until you have that version

Rydwolf Programs

@Seggan That sounds super cool

Maybe post on meta to get an approximation of how many people would be interested?

I'd love to compete, but I also really wanna be a judge since inventing strings that would sort of stress test golfing language string compressors would be really interesting

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22:17

@user i made it 3 parts without needing hover text but now i'm laughing my ass off over misreading "no raisin will stop justice"

Bbrk24

@UnrelatedString does your viewer support hover text?

it doesn't seem to work for me

Rydwolf Programs

@UnrelatedString NO WAY-IT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE THAT

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@Bbrk24 it doesn't seem to support hover text (or any page-by-page metadata) but i could put the hover text in the chapter title or something :P

everything's just from se-nitro.surge.sh/data.js

Bbrk24

oh thanks, those transcripts make it a lot easier to follow

Rydwolf Programs

Ooh I never realized that the title texts newline-separated would make a great transcript

Bbrk24

22:26

This is mostly easier to follow because it says who all the stick figures actually are

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yeah lol

Bbrk24

> 11ium

Rydwolf Programs

Mod abuse!!! -> Mod abuse!11!11!! -> 11

Bbrk24

I know

I just found "11ium" funny

> Land ho!
Rude.

Is that a 505-dollar bill?

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Bbrk24

22:38

@UnrelatedString Part 3, Chapter 5, Panel 15 isn't loading for me

panel 14 loads just fine

Rydwolf Programs

@Bbrk24 No, that's supposed to be two dollar signs and a circle 💀

Unrelated String

@Bbrk24 yeah they don't load on the other reader either :P

i have no idea where they are even if they exist

but they have transcripts

Rydwolf Programs

I think it's a known and fixed issue?

Surge just hasn't been updated IIRC

oh nope they were never added

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lol

Rydwolf Programs

IIRC I have them on my local copy or sth?

I really hope I don't have to scroll through the 1000+ screenshots in my downloads folder to find these lol

oh ffs I was scrolling through my screenshots totally confused before I realized I had it sorted by size instead of recent

Bbrk24

22:49

For lack of response from Ginger, I'll just upload the version I posted earlier

Rydwolf Programs

LOL I just stumbled across this in the folder:

5

Bbrk24

uh, hm

squish

there we go

Bbrk24

new pfp

uh?

Rydwolf Programs

You need to Ctrl+Shift+R a few times

And if you don't reset your chat parent it can take a while for internal caching to catch up

Bbrk24

ah thanks

Rydwolf Programs

22:53

FWIW I see your new pfp

Bbrk24

I already reset the chat parent, I just hadn't reloaded

Rydwolf Programs

Okay so huge chunks of Nitro are missing from my drive

Wait maybe I can find the images in the chat room

Found 'em!

lyxal

@RydwolfPrograms discord apparently

I've tried sending a DM or two over the years but never got a reply

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nice

Rydwolf Programs

@emanresuA Can you update surge, I fixed p3c5

lyxal

23:19

@Ginger me when it's probably gonna have to be mid July now

Uni exams + age incrementation + wanting to put any motivation I get into making v3 a thing

Rydwolf Programs

Would it be possible for you to just send your script to one of the other people for them to draw it?

lyxal

It would be

I would be fine with that

Rydwolf Programs

(altho I'm telling you if a chapter takes more than 10m to draw you're doing it wrong :p)

lyxal

I like making things legible and coherent

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is the reader-drawn chapter specifically the lyxal-drawn chapter

and yeah the less legible the better LO

*:P

lyxal

23:24

How the hell did you get LO from :P?

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dubfwe ub rgw qeibg okXW

(finger in the wrong place)

lyxal

@UnrelatedString Ah of course my bad

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:P

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lyxal

@UnrelatedString I'm (allegedly) one of the people drawing it

Despite the fact I don't even recall saying I would :p

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nice

depending on how many pages you already have maybe it could be, like, every x pages switches to someone else

lyxal

23:28

I've done 0 pages

Haven't even started lol

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hype

lyxal

8 mins ago, by lyxal

@Ginger me when it's probably gonna have to be mid July now

That's when I plan to even start for reference

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o/

(in response to hyper joining)

Neil

23:49

@Simd you can probably shell out to image magic

although, why not convert them into an animated png anyway

@cairdcoinheringaahing calling caird?

Bbrk24

Is anyone else here doing pride-related pfps?

So far there’s Ginger, Rydwolf, user, me, and technically Emanresu

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