The Nineteenth Byte

lyxal

00:13

@Bbrk24 now there's a challenge I haven't seen in a while

good times

Bbrk24

        ; As outlined in turing_completeness.md, there will be a code thread and a memory
        ; thread. The nature of Trilangle makes it far easier to emulate a Harvard
        ; architecture.
    TSP memory_start
        ; Read input until EOF, keeping track of how much was read.
    PSI #0
input_loop:
    GTC
    BNG input_done
    SWP
    INC
    JMP input_loop
input_done:
    POP
fde_loop:
        ; Fetch-decode-execute cycle, but weirder.
        ; Fetch and decode each instruction, but send it to the memory thread to execute.

lyxal

I assume the fact it's output only makes it much easier :p

Bbrk24

Yes. Trilangle can only take input from one source, so it'd be impossible to distinguish program from input

lyxal

> ~: Push a random integer in any range of integers. Minimum range of 0 through 32768

man what on earth was I thinking back then

ain't no way that's a good golf built-in :p

Bbrk24

I like the C JIT one that copies strings into function pointers

Kotlin is longer than Java in that one @Seggan

My Trilangle version here would exit with a floating-point exception on divide by zero and a segfault if you operate on an empty stack

lyxal

00:24

/: Divide. 0-division will result in an error.

and erroring on empty stack is fine

Bbrk24

Yeah, Trilangle's DIV delegates to the native integer division instruction, and at least on Windows x86 that causes a floating-point exception on divide by zero (which terminates the program)

CMLDQ: Should I add a -q flag to switch from a stack to a queue?

Bubbler

if the only storage becomes a queue then it is significantly harder to program in general

Bbrk24

it actually makes the code significantly more complicated because I have to check a flag before every write into the storage

using _Scary_val = _String_val<conditional_t<_Is_simple_alloc_v<_Alty>, _Simple_types<_Elem>,
    _String_iter_types<_Elem, typename _Alty_traits::size_type, typename _Alty_traits::difference_type,
        typename _Alty_traits::pointer, typename _Alty_traits::const_pointer, _Elem&, const _Elem&>>>;

Bubbler

if something makes things harder for both you (the implementor) and programmers, it's probably not a good thing to implement

Bbrk24

Thank you MSVC very cool

Bubbler

00:36

other than pure esolang vibe

ATaco

Damn they made Verbosity into a prac lang huh?

Bbrk24

I like how it's called _Scary_val

OldSandboxPosts

01:00

Sandbox posts last active a week ago: German pharmacy payment, Manipulate integers to zero fastest-algorithm

Seggan

01:32

@Bbrk24 for what

Bbrk24

Implement a Volatile Interpreter

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Q: Interpret Volatile

Interpret Volatile Volatile is a stack-based esolang made by A_/a'_'/A that only has 8 instructions and is turing complete. However, it is also non-deterministic... meaning that programs don't always give the same output. Your task is to interpret this language. Language specs Taken from the ...

Seggan

01:46

@Bbrk24 it can be golfed a bit, first i see is List(0){0} -> listOf(0)

New Posts

02:27

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Q: Resultant of two polynomials

The resultant of two polynomials is a polynomial in their coefficients that is zero if and only if \$p\$ and \$q\$ have a common root. It is a useful tool for eliminating variables from systems of polynomial equations. For example, it is used in my answer to the code golf challenge Add up two alg...

code-golf math polynomials

Rydwolf Programs

03:32

New coding font just dropped

Intel One Mono

Learned about it from Linux Boman, one of the designers of Atkinson Hyperlegible

Bbrk24

04:17

Probably going to label my JIT “abandon all debuggers, ye who enter” or something like that

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I just know that I’m going to make a calling convention mistake somewhere and cause an impossible-to-debug error

Especially since I’m doing #ifdef _WIN64 /* MSVC stuff */ #else /* SystemV stuff */ #endif and my main source is Wikipedia

Neil

07:36

@Bbrk24 I think you'll find that integer division by zero isn't a floating-point exception...

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Sandbox Posts

09:07

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Logarithmic incrementation In this challenge you will write a function that calculates the function $$f(x)=\begin{cases}x[0] & \text{if } x*= 1 \\ \log_{x*}\left(\sum_{n=0}^{x*-1}\left({x*}^{x[n]}\right)\right) & \text{otherwise} \end{cases}$$ where \$x*\$ is the length of list \$x\$ and \$x[n]\$...

PlaceReporter99

@SandboxPosts turn on ChatJax for this post.

Anyways, how is the post?

Bbrk24

11:14

@Neil You’d think!

emanresu A

11:27

Please stop pinging random people

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PlaceReporter99

11:38

@emanresuA trying to get feedback on my sandbox post

Any feedback for my sandbox post?

mousetail

11:55

@PlaceReporter99 Asking once is plenty

PlaceReporter99

@mousetail i know what the words mean individually, but not together in that order.

mousetail

Asking once is plenty

As in once is enough asking, no need to ask more than once

PlaceReporter99

@mousetail ok

anyways, do you have any feedback for the sandbox post?

lyxal

12:16

@RydwolfPrograms looks good in theory, but hard to read in practice

plus, doesn't seem to include more niche unicode characters

which is kind of a must-have given the site we're on :p

Bbrk24

12:30

Everson Mono is good font support, but at smaller sizes it’s not perfectly even for some reason

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bizarre

Bbrk24

It also has weird licensing terms: you can have it for personal use on one computer for free; you can pay $25 to use it on three computers; and if you want to use it on more than three, you have to reach out to him directly.

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what the fuck

Bbrk24

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Q: Why does integer division by zero result in a floating point exception?

Division by zero in a C program results in abnormal termination with the error message Floating point exception (core dumped). This is unsurprising for floating point division, but why does it say this when integer division by zero occurs? Does integer division actually use the FPU under the hood...

c divide-by-zero

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@RydwolfPrograms i kinda hate how the braces look but in service of increased legibility for those who need it i'm really impressed someone managed to come up with them lmao

Sandbox Posts

12:38

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Trippples Introduction Tripples (BGG) is a board game from the 1970s. It is played on an 8x8 grid, and each tile on that grid (except the corner starting tiles, and four blank tiles) contain three arrows. The three arrows each point in one of eight directions (up, down, left, right; and diagonall...

PlaceReporter99

13:12

Can someone give feedback on my sandbox post?:

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Logarithmic incrementation In this challenge you will write a function that calculates the function $$f(x)=\begin{cases}x[0]+1 & \text{if } x*= 1 \\ \log_{x*}\left(\sum_{n=0}^{x*-1}\left({x*}^{x[n]}\right)\right) & \text{otherwise} \end{cases}$$ where \$x*\$ is the length of list \$x\$ and \$x[n]...

enable ChatJax to view the preview properly.

Rydwolf Programs

13:38

@PlaceReporter99 Wait why is CIMJ causing the MathJax in this to render lol

It's only supposed to render things with a cimj-typeset class...

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PlaceReporter99

@RydwolfPrograms what a desirable bug! I better implement that bug in my programms!

Rydwolf Programs

And now I can't repro lol

Actually I can?

It's inconsistent lolll

Okay I figured it out, it's because MathJax automatically typesets on page load by default

God I hate the MathJax docs

Fixed

New Posts

14:32

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Q: How many sorting networks?

Below on the left is a picture of a sorting network that can sort 4 inputs. On the right you can see it sorting the input 3,2,4,1. A sorting network of size n consists of a set of n horizontal wires where two wires can be connected by a vertical wire. The inputs to a sorting network move from th...

math sequence permutations fastest-code

PlaceReporter99

16:17

@RydwolfPrograms how many net votes before I post my sandbox post to the world?

mousetail

@PlaceReporter99 Wait at least 3 days

PlaceReporter99

@mousetail and then how many upvotes should I have before I post it?

I mean net votes

mousetail

Around 3 is usually good in 3 days, after a week maybe 2 is enough

If you get a lot of good votes but also feedback it may not be ready

Neil

16:41

@mousetail did you see my chat ping regarding my comment?

PlaceReporter99

@mousetail i already have 2 votes!

caird coinheringaahin g

17:44

If you haven't read this paper before, I strongly encourage you to: math.berkeley.edu/~kpmann/Lakatos.pdf

It's possibly the snarkiest paper I've ever read, and it's about proving V - E + F = 2

caird coinheringaahin g

18:02

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Bbrk24

21:12

I just found something incredibly cursed

// Win32 defines _WIN32 automatically,
// but Macintosh doesn't, so if we are using
// Win32 Functions, we must do it here

#ifdef _MAC
#ifndef _WIN32
#define _WIN32
#endif
#endif //_MAC

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