The Nineteenth Byte

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user

01:10

@Seggan CGCC specifically or all of SE? Because there are certainly a ton of famous people on SE

Ginger

see: Jon Skeet ~~our Lord and Savior~~

Seggan

01:28

@user SE

lyxal

me when I make myself easily identifiable by including custom responses in the "what <tool> do you use" section

caird coinheringaahin g

02:06

@Seggan Define "identifiable"

Cause, I'd imagine that I could walk past any of y'all on the street and you wouldn't know me. But, if someone tried, they could find out my name, what university I go to, and my age, just from the TNB transcript

Hell, my birthday literally inspired a challenge on main :P

lyxal

@cairdcoinheringaahing "able to say ah yes that's <insert username here> based on the developer survey results"

caird coinheringaahin g

Then I'm very much not identifiable, as I've never completed the dev survey :P

LotM Nomations

A: Nominations for Language of the Month, Take 2

Nibbles Nibbles is a language designed to be very good at golf by having half byte instructions rather than hundreds of built-ins. Because each instruction is half a byte and expressible as a regular keyboard symbol, it should feel like golfing in a regular language, except you get to divide by t...

lyxal

@cairdcoinheringaahing The number of people who can say that will probably grow now that there's no badge for it any more

caird coinheringaahin g

@LotMNomations Huh, when did you become a feed?

lyxal

02:12

30th of June last year apparently

Jun 29, 2022 at 7:44, by pxeger

CMM: Should we have chat feeds for nominations for Language of the Month and Learn You a Lang?

Jun 30, 2022 at 13:30, by Feeds

pxeger has made a change to the feeds posted into this room

caird coinheringaahin g

Huh, somehow I don't think I've ever noticed it before

lyxal

probably because it's only had 6 chances to post something

ATaco

02:39

@LotMNomations 0/10, Spawned the log(96) craze. (/s)

user

03:31

@cairdcoinheringaahing idk what it's like in the UK, but over here, a dog with a Santa hat would certainly stand out, so if you walked past me on the street over here, I could definitely identify you. No idea if dogs with Santa hats are ubiquitous in the UK, though

caird coinheringaahin g

Pretty sure dogs wearing santa hats make up 15% of our population, sorry

user

Dangit

New Posts

Q: Compare Two Fractions With ASCII Art

Challenge Write a program or function that takes in 4 non-negative integers, A, B, C, and D, that represent two fractions, A/B and C/D, where B and D are non-zero and A <= B and C <= D. Output an ASCII art depiction of the fractions made of |x- characters on two lines as follows: The lines will ...

Dannyu NDos

04:30

Are golfing languages analogous to polysynthetic natlangs?

DLosc

04:49

@ATaco Are you thinking of Fig?

@DannyuNDos I don't think so, unless you want to argue that they have very long "words" because there aren't spaces between the builtins.

Actually, stack-based golflangs in particular could be compared to isolating languages where each morpheme (character) is a separate word (command).

But there aren't very many programming languages that have a concept of inflection, so I'm not sure the isolating-synthetic spectrum is really applicable.

@cairdcoinheringaahing Are there any in the royal family?

ATaco

@DLosc I can't answer that without be charged with Treason.

3 hours later…

mousetail

07:43

@LotMNomations @mods maybe lock the LOTM nominatins thread if we are no longer doing LOTMs?

5 hours later…

lyxal

12:48

I noticed that running the elo script doesn't do decimal byte counts properly

would this be a valid fix?

the changes are score = re.search("(\d+(\.\d+)?) bytes?", line) and score = eval(score.group(1).lstrip("0") or "0")

mousetail

You probably want (?:\.\d+)?

Avoid creating unnecessary groups

lyxal

re doesn't like that

re.error: incomplete escape \x at position 3

mousetail

Oops \. not \x. All I added was the ?:

You probably want to mark all the regex strings raw

lyxal

that seems to not make it capture any more

IndexError: no such group

mousetail

Yea it removes a group. You should add it to the inner set of parenthesis not the outer one

lyxal

12:54

so score = re.search(r"(\d+(?:\.\d+)?) bytes?", line)?

mousetail

Yes

lyxal

:+1:

works now

@lyxal oh and lines.append((row["FirstLine"], row["ParentId"])) to account for the csv header name change from Bubbler's query

and with open("merged.csv", encoding="utf-8") as csvfile:

because it errors otherwise

3 hours later…

caird coinheringaahin g

16:17

@mousetail Just a reminder that "@mods" doesn't actually ping us :P

As for locking it, I don't think that's necessary. We didn't lock the first nominations thread when that died. Might be worth editing a note that LOTM has ended tho

mousetail

16:32

I'm aware mods doesn't ping you, but it seemed the most reasonable way to get a mods attention even if it required them to read my message manually

Maybe just close it?

@lyxal @lyxal sad to see rust at the very bottom now :(

Ginger

pings go brr

bigyihsuan

>Go: 375

sad gopher noises

i wonder how much of that low score is because of imports

mousetail

16:50

Make a language called "g" which is go but everything is imported automatically

Aiden Chow

damn sad that lotm died off, it was cool

mousetail

It's been dead all year

Aiden Chow

ye ikr i wonder why that happen, maybe the langs werent interesting?

mousetail

Hardly any actual submissions in the languages

Rust actually beats python lol: codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/260857/91213

DLosc

17:08

@AidenChow Interest in things seems to go up and down in cycles. Who knows, maybe we'll end up bringing it back again in 2025.

caird coinheringaahin g

@mousetail Raise a flag :P

DLosc

I am actually interested in learning Nibbles, tho. Maybe I should take Darren's invitation and start a chat room for it.

Aiden Chow

17:35

@DLosc take 3 lmao

DLosc

17:55

Looking at the list of languages we did, Pip was lucky to have squeaked in right at the end

mousetail

Or maybe it was so bad it killed the entire event :p

DLosc

Nah, you gotta blame the last language for that :P

(TBH, I'm not sure if it was a lack of enthusiasm about Elm or a lack of enthusiasm about the remaining nominees.)

Seggan

18:51

when ure returning io::Result<Option<Arc<Mutex<HashMap<String, TextInput<'_>>>>>> you know somethings wrong and theres definetly a much better way of doing it

i have done that thrice already

bigyihsuan

19:08

buh, head empty in regards to programming language ideas

stack-based, deque-based, """normal""" proglang...

considering the opaqueness of the errors i was returning with nice-expr i want to experiment and see if i can make more user-friendly error messages (with line-col numbers etc)

maybe i could re-implement that verboselang i had a while back

looks at my own code examples

eww why did i think this was "nice syntax"

Seggan

hrm bots seem to be bork

smokey still works, my client is getting a redirect when trying to get user id

Seggan

19:33

nvm i used the wrong password

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