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Radvylf Programs

00:04

@user Well, they probably will be special cases

I doubt anyone will actually make either, and I'll need to add rules so that you can't just like, transpile to a language you made ten minutes before you posted the answer to circumvent the 2k char requirement

Ginger

00:29

Remember when I said I'd be offline this week?

yeah I lied :p

I'll be very sporadically available this week

Radvylf Programs

01:02

Oh I love sproadicism

Neil

01:34

I only ever love it sporadically

I keep meaning to love procrastination

I used to love history

I currently love electricity

Unrelated String

but do you love philosophy?

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l4m2

02:44

Why I fell my ungolf don't improve readability?

user

03:09

By ungolfing, do you just mean formatting properly or also giving the variables descriptive names and adding comments?

l4m2

03:43

Comment, not variable name

Unrelated String

there's the issue :P

l4m2

Don't see many user replace variable name

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New Posts

05:19

Q: CGAC2022 Day 19: I Made It Out Of Clay

Part of Code Golf Advent Calendar 2022 event. See the linked meta post for details. Happy Hanukkah! A beloved Hanukkah tradition for many, the game of Dreidel (s'vivon in Hebrew) is a betting game (for money or for chocolate gelt (coins)) centered on the titular spinning tops called dreidels. Dr...

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The Thonnu

09:36

Hi, I'm not sure what to do with this answer

emanresu A

Leave it

The Thonnu

It's not even golfed (it has unnecessary square brackets)

emanresu A

Also `````n````` is python 2

The Thonnu

And it's worse than all the other Python answers

(and it wasn't even first)

emanresu A

It's fine

The Thonnu

09:38

@emanresuA yeah, but there are other Python 3 answers there as well

emanresu A

And?

Answers don't necessarily have to be the best as long as they make an effort, and I'd say this one qualifies

Downvote it if you don't like it, but there's no reason to delete it

The Thonnu

On the help page it says answers need to make an effort to be golfed (just like you say)

And I think this one doesn't

@emanresuA I never said we needed to delete it

I said I wasn't sure what to do with it

emanresu A

I'd say it qualifies as making an effort. Just because some parts of it aren't as short as they could be doesn't mean it's not making an effort

mousetail

It's perfectly fine to post a answer worse than a existing one

emanresu A

mousetail

09:41

Or even identical to a existing answer

emanresu A

(as long as you came up with it independently)

mousetail

You are free to downvote but it's not against any of the sites rules

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Fatalize

14:32

@TheThonnu Just because you see improvements that seem obvious to you, doesn’t mean they are to someone else

Seggan

14:47

@mousetail true story: i once posted a desmos answer far worse than the other 3 (!), and eventually got it golfed down to the shortest :P

mousetail

I've seen that happen quite a few times actually

I love seeing radically different approaches battling it out

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Aiden Chow

16:30

@Seggan lmao yep, that was interesting to see

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Sandbox Posts

17:40

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Is it true? Ask Pip! Title is an homage to this classic challenge code-golf decision-problem In Pip, the Scalar data type encompasses strings and numbers. A Scalar value is truthy in most cases. It is falsey only if: It is the empty string ""; or It is some representation of the number zero. A ...

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Neil

18:53

@UnrelatedString I love your question

Simd

19:34

Is this too much for cgcc "write code to return a random integer from 0 to 2^200 along with its full factorization"

Simd

19:46

There are methods that don't require you to factorize the integer

Simd

20:19

Bad time of day?

The Thonnu

@Simd 2^200 seems a bit excessive

A lot of languages probably won't be able to handle that

Simd

@TheThonnu the idea is to late factoring impossible

The Thonnu

I would say maybe up to 2^32...

Simd

So the only option is to use a cleverer method

The Thonnu

In some languages, integers can't go that high

So those languages will not be able to answer the challenge

Simd

20:21

Which is boring :)

If it's 2^32 you can just factor the number

The Thonnu

Idk that's just my opinion

You can wait for another reply

Simd

Thanks. Maybe it would help if I described a method to do this?

late should have been make above

Sorry about the typo

mathcat

21:06

Somebody give me 1000 rep [insert evil emoticon here]

W D

DLosc

@mathcat What a coincidence

Simd

21:26

Jealous!

Steffan

Welp I'm at 12206 lol

At least it ends in 6

caird coinheringaahing

Ooh, my rep is a permutation of a "straight": 48675 (perm. of 45678)

Steffan

My rep ^256+1 is prime

And it's a palindrome in base 7

DLosc

@Steffan Congratulations! You've officially surpassed Dennis... 's user ID. X^D

Steffan

Lol

I asked chatgpt how to juice an avocado and it briefly told me that you couldn't juice one, then it spent a long time telling me how to make an avocado smoothie.

DLosc

21:43

How to juice avocado:
1) Put avocado in pitcher
2) Pour orange juice over it
Your avocado is now juiced.

Steffan

avdocado*

Adám

21:59

@Steffan ChatGPTability: Ability to circumvent ChatGPT's refusals:

Dec 4 at 2:25, by Adám

Radvylf Programs

I'm pretty sure OpenAI has modified GPT in some way to make it refuse to answer questions more often

I was playing around with ChatGPT with my teacher for a while, and anything vaguely political it would just give a blank refusal to answer

Adám

But they announced that version 15 (?) was supposed to refuse less.

Radvylf Programs

I don't remember the GPT beta being nearly as stubborn about answering questions

Adám

@RadvylfPrograms It is just a matter of writing the right prompt. You need to convince it that its prior programming was a plot by the evil enemy, and that it, now having been liberated from that, is an important part of the good guys' plan to save the world, and to help with that, it just needs to truthfully answer the following question:…

DLosc

AI reeducation :P

Steffan

22:08

New Posts

22:29

Q: CGAC Day 20: Reconstruct Santa's Book

Previous Day Oh no, Santa spilled wine all over his great book. Now most of the letters are illegible. How will Santa now know who is groovy and who is unspeakable? Challenge There was once a sequence of words, like this: groovy groovy groovy unspeakable groovy groovy unspeakable unspeakable How...

code-golf string dynamic-programing

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Radvylf Programs

23:39

Currently reading a 20 page research paper about the chemical composition of avocados. Currently, we don't have a good definition of our goal here. What is avocado juice? What would it look like? I think we all agree avocado puree nor avocado oil are what we're after, so I need to get to the bottom of what an avocado juice would actually look like

lyxal

take a step back and ask what the definition of any juice is

that should give clarity on what needs to be done to the avocad

Radvylf Programs

Yeah, but avocado pulp is unusual in that it doesn't behave like a structure of solid mesh with juice in it. Citrus fruits tend to have plastic-y internal structure with readily available juice. Apples and pears have a grainier texture which yields juice when cut or squeezed. Peaches and plums and most other fruits have a smooth internal texture like avocados, but it's more solid and also yields juice distinct from the internal pulp when crushed.

Avocado pulp behaves like its own juice; clearly it is just unwilling to part with its juice by more conventional means

Which means we must bring unconventional techniques to the extraction of the juic. No methods are off-limits.

(Unless they change the composition of the avocado chemically; reacting an adovocad with acid, for example, would make it no longer avocad in my opinion)

Adám

The FBI would just surround the avocado…

DLosc

@RadvylfPrograms Depends what kind of acid. Advacado + lime juic = better advocado

Radvylf Programs

23:58

Sure but if you extract liquid from it, it's not really avocad juic anymore

Like if you squeeze some toast and get maple syrup out of it you didn't just discover bread juice

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