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12:02 AM
@RadvylfPrograms <body contenteditable>
 
>:(
 
(ノ・0・)ノ
 
speed nerdlegame 103 solved in 1m 47s!

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saddest speed nerdlegame ive had ever. last 3 guesses were all permutations of the purple hints. couldve been sub 1 minute without all the time penalties :(
 
okay so
I wrote a program to count how many times I used import in all of my programs
and the results:
> Radvylf has shed, because of you, Ginger, 53461 tears.
:/
that is a lot
 
12:17 AM
(「๑•₃•)「 doing a little trolling
 
nerdlegame 103 3/6

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ssaadfghn
 
@emanresuA nice! meanwhile me getting it in 4 guesses becuz of swapped digits lol
 
Took me ages to figure out the third :P
 
u should try speed nerdle, makes it a bit harder cuz they auto fill the first guess, so u cant really do ur normal openers
certainly more challenging than normal
 
12:32 AM
speed nerdlegame 103 solved in 1m 52s!

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one minute of that was trying to deal with an extremely laggy ad
 
@emanresuA :| damn thats fast
 
I got lucky tho
 
couldve gotten sub 1 min if i didnt get so unlucky with permutations
 
🟩 🟪 ⬛️ Instant Nerdle 89 solved in 0m 45s!
Instant nerdle is hard
 
"instant nerdle is hard" solves it in under a min :((
 
12:38 AM
I got lucky with the division
I figured there weren't many ways to set that up
 
nah not lucky, smart
took multiple tries for me to get the right place and numbers for the division :|
i was looking at 14/7, 27/9, took me forever to get it to work
tho in retrospect idk why it took me a full 2 minutes to find it lol
 
I tried doing pro nerdle but it won't let me enter 6!/4+(2.8*5)-7^0=193
 
i have never tried pro nerdle before, this is gonna be hard
 
@AidenChow You'll hate me after seeing the solution
 
@emanresuA ok so... spoiler
 
Nice :P
 
i barely got any info in the operations tho
 
12:51 AM
Remember, there's a separate room for these kinds of puzzles

 Wordle/Quordle/Octordle/Nerdle/Semant

For discussion about today's puzzles (spoilers!). A full list ...
 
I didn't see that wasn't a custom semantle but the room link until after I posted mine lol
 
ye sorry about that, i started the nerdle discussion here cuz i was really mad about my speed nerdlegame and had to share it here
@emanresuA i swear the hints im getting dont make any sense, wtf
 
How many lines have you done?
 
3 guesses so far, already really confused
 
12:57 AM
You might make it but
 
ik where the parentheses are
 
11 mins ago, by emanresu A
@AidenChow You'll hate me after seeing the solution
 
or at least one set of parentheses
 
Frick
 
1:02 AM
Sounds like mathjax or something rendering incorrectly
 
what the, how is there only () 5 . =, this is literally black magic @emanresuA
i genuinely have no idea what to guess
 
where is the give up button, i need it right about now lol
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Just try random stuff, you might get it
 
1:14 AM
@lyxal How many esolang designers does it take to change a light bulb? Just one, to relabel it as another kind of light bulb
 
@emanresuA
pro nerdlegame solved!

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Custom game code: 7e33ea6598735b00013b09a78e5cba3a/10/
that is so evil
@emanresuA this is causing a severe lag spike on my pc, what the
its not even loading properly for me
 
@AidenChow dear gosh that's nasty
 
lol yeah, i spent way too long looking into how to fit in the decimal place
then i tried to see if there was another set of parentheses. after that everything clicked into place :P
not as evil as emanresu's
 
1:34 AM
I recommend moving discussion on that one to the room for it
43 mins ago, by lyxal

 Wordle/Quordle/Octordle/Nerdle/Semant

For discussion about today's puzzles (spoilers!): nytimes.com/...
 
@lyxal ye ok
 
 
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2:38 AM
rip, worth a shot
just making sure, i can answer q's when my suspension is lifted right
 
@AidenChow Yes. Just don't try to get around the ban.
 
alr cool
suspension is not cool tho, im already thoroughly hating it
 
2:56 AM
0
Q: Convert Alpha-3 to Alpha-2

KomaliI've been developing some programs involving me fetching a vector from a url using Alpha-2 country codes (such as GET /jp.svg for Japan). Except, oh no! All the country data on my computer uses Alpha-3! That just won't do...The task is simple: Take an Alpha-3 country code (e.g. UKR) and return i...

 
can i ask for the suspension to be cut early, like maybe 4 days instead of 7, or is that not possible
 
@AidenChow I mean, you can ask, but it's unlikely that it'll happen.
Although you can't submit questions and answers, nothing stops you from writing them and saving them locally so you can post them when you're unbanned.
 
@forest oh yea that sounds like a good idea, gonna do that
 
Alternatively you could go do some desmosing on Codidact
 
@lyxal hm idk what that is, but sounds interesting
 
why does it look like a stack exchange knock off
 
@AidenChow It was created as a SE alternative due to some things SE staff did that the community disagreed with.
Look on Meta Stack Exchange and search for "Monica" to learn what's behind all the drama, including a mass-exodus of mods in 2019.
 
@forest mustve been quite the disagreement to make a new site lol
 
Yes, it really was. It was a huge deal.
It wasn't one single thing either. A bunch of things led up to it.
 
"mass-exodus of mods" yeah ok what, how did i not hear about this before
 
3:17 AM
Twas a time where we only had 1 mod and no active room owners
Plus chat was quiet af
 
@AidenChow Well, at the time, SE was trying very hard to censor anyone talking about it.
But eventually gave up. There's still a serious rift between staff and community though.
But hopefully it's slowly starting to close.
 
hmm it seems like it happened during 2019? i think thats about the time i made an acct on SE
 
Late 2019
 
Yep. Although drama went from 2018 and is still continuing in many ways.
For example, look at all the bountied questions on MSE...
 
And we got down to one moderator in around January 2020
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Q: What's the Future of CGCC?

lyxalAs of recently, we've lost 3 of our 4 moderators. This means we only have 1 moderator left. Also, several people are expressing their concerns that things are dying around here. With the recent mess over on SE, the growing inactivity of past regulars, and a presumable lack of people wanting to ...

 
3:21 AM
Since SE still does things like host malicious JavaScript (I think even today).
 
I dont suppose logging what people copy and paste is the best practice
 
And when I say malicious, I mean JS that uses an advanced tracking technique that can uniquely identify a computer even if you delete cookies or change to a new browser.
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A: Stack Overflow is not trying to start audio

Zoe stands with UkraineTL;DR: "The sca.js pixel as mentioned collects data required for ad verification. There is no individual user tracking happening as the browser signals they collect via their js does not collect any PII." is wrong, SO isn't starting audio but ads use it for fingerprinting, IAS ToS + GDPR invalida...

And previously:
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Q: Why is Stack Overflow trying to start audio?

gmanI often have my browser's devtools open since I'm often debugging a snippet. I noticed this message often recently: Why is Stack Overflow trying to start audio? Update. I see it's from an ad(?). https://static.adsafeprotected.com/sca.17.4.95.js Update 2 It happens when this ad appears, f...

 
what the, 0_0
 
Yup.
And if it managed to fingerprint you once, you'd have to throw away your computer if you wanted to change the fingerprint. Of course, some browsers can block this fingerprinting technique, but not all do.
 
do they still do that
 
3:30 AM
I think so.
 
```
f(a)=floor(mod(a,2^{g+1})/2^g)
g=[0,...,floor(log_2(a))]
```
 
@forest 0_0 oh no, i dont use ad block
 
thx
 
@AidenChow What browser?
 
@forest chrome
 
3:31 AM
Dunno how to do it in Chrome. If you used Firefox, you could set privacy.resistFingerprinting to true.
 
@Steffan that can actually be golfed a bit
f(a)=floor(mod(a,2^g2)/2^g)
g=[0...floor(log_2a)]
actually makes it shorter than my implementation, nice!
wait nvm, this one doesnt allow a=0
while mines does
@forest well i searched it up, its saying i need to download some browser extension
 
Oh, really? Dunno. I use Tor Browser which has that by default.
 
:(
sad
 
3:48 AM
Tor Browser is the best way to prevent fingerprinting.
 
what is that?
 
You haven't heard of Tor?
 
no havent heard of it
 
It's an anonymity network.
Basically a special browser you download and it makes you anonymous.
Also resists fingerprinting. But because it uses the Tor network, the internet is fairly slow.
(And don't try to use it to ban evade. That would make your ban last longer)
 
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A: Reverse and square

SteffanDesmos, 124 bytes b(n)=mod(floor(n/2^{[floor(log_2(n+0^n))...0]}),2) d(l)=total(2^{[l.length-1...0]}l) c(l)=l[length(l)...1] f(n)=d(c(b(n)))^2 Try it on Desmos!

 
3:53 AM
Anyway I gotta go. Later.
 
@Steffan nice!
i already see a few apparent golfs, lemme try to solve the problem myself
 
im sure u can halve the byte count or smth
 
first of all, to reverse binary and then convert back to decimal, u dont really need that many functions. all u need to do is this:
f(n)=total(mod(floor(n/2^{[k...0]}),2)2^{[0...k]})
k=floor(log_2(n+0^n))
f(n) takes in decimal, reverses binary, and converts back to decimal
so i think this works:
f(n)=total(mod(floor(n/2^{[k...0]}),2)2^{[0...k]})^2
k=floor(log_2(n+0^n))
(havent tested yet)
yep seems to be working: desmos.com/calculator/dfzhfchhgv
 
thx
 
f(n)=total(mod(floor(n/2^l),2)2^k/2^l)^2
k=floor(log_2(n+0^n))
l=[k...0]
this works for 72 bytes
@Steffan no problem! im glad someone else is golfing in desmos now, not just me :P
 
4:06 AM
u literally saved 52 bytes lol
 
@Steffan lol yea, ive encountered so many binary problems with desmos, ive optimized it quite a bit over time through experience
even the most recent candle sequence q can be solved using binary conversion :P
 
 
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5:30 AM
tfw you find a band-aid in a library book
 
Yikes
 
Looked clean but I threw it in the trash just in case
 
Wordle 317 2/6

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WTF
 
how
 
5:40 AM
luck
I assume it's one of their opening words?
 
damn it i just found a golf in one of my answers ...
@emanresuA yeah that sounds most reasonable
 
@AidenChow yikes
What is it?
 
what if someone else edit it in for me
is that allowed
 
30 secs ago, by lyxal
What is it?
 
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A: iHateOddNumbers

Aiden ChowDesmos, 30 bytes f(n)=random(-mod(n,2)).total+n A lot of stuff that I tried just gives undefined instead of erroring out, but I finally found something that worked. There must be something else that's shorter than random() + total, but I don't see it at the moment... Try It On Desmos! Try It On ...

 
5:45 AM
@AidenChow it's not usually good practice but I would assume it's okay if requested by post author
 
hmm ok
lemme type up the edit real quick, could u edit it in for me ?
 
I would
Assuming no one snakes the edit I can do it lol
 
replace byte count with: <s>30</s> 29 bytes
replace code with: `f(n)=[1...-mod(n,2)10^4].maxn`
Try It On Desmos! link with https://www.desmos.com/calculator/77hydbm4qd
Try It On Desmos! - Prettified link with https://www.desmos.com/calculator/m1h2mmtdj2
thanks!
also take out text: There must be something else that's shorter than random() + total, but I don't see it at the moment...
 
Done
 
ok thanks a lot!
 
5:52 AM
the pxeger has returned
Hide your LEDs, everyone
 
@emanresuA I'm not just any pxeger
I'm the pxeger
Noone else can pxeg as good as I can
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ah sheesh, @lyxal hate to annoy u again, but i just found another golf just as u finished the edit
 
No it’s fine
it increases my edited post stat
and gets me closer to a badge
so I’m happy to do more edits
 
I'm not convinced it's really allowed to perform actions on behalf of a suspended user
 
code: f(n)=[1...-mod(n,2)10^4][1]n
byte count: <s>30</s> 28 bytes
Try It On Desmos! https://www.desmos.com/calculator/dbzyenq8lh
Prettified https://www.desmos.com/calculator/qxv8rpgnpo
thanks
@pxeger but like its on my own post
so its fine right
 
5:56 AM
Done
 
thanks!
 
@AidenChow Another golf - 8^8
 
@emanresuA oh yep thanks, also i noticed that i left the negative sign in there accidentally
soooo, 2 more bytes golfed :P
wait i can even do 8!
(factorial)
 
Wait... because you weren't the maker of the announcement, you can claim bounties!
 
@ophact well, i didnt actually post any answer in may
but i think i can
 
6:02 AM
You can get up to 250 rep in total
 
ye i need (hopefully) one last edit on my post:
25 bytes
f(n)=[1...mod(n,2)8!][1]n
Try it on desmos https://www.desmos.com/calculator/q259koxsor
prettified https://www.desmos.com/calculator/n1bhmqd4yw
@ophact if i can even post that many answers in a month, i have 98 answers total :P
 
Lol... Ramp up the pace ;)
 
maybe just for this month :)
 
Done
 
Do you think you would have the rep to award all the bounties if you posted the announcement? If 12 people posted 10 Desmo snaswers each you would run out of rep ;)
 
6:06 AM
@ophact nah i wouldnt, thats why emanresu agreed to do bounties instead
so even if i did post the announcement, i wouldnt be giving the bounties
@ophact "Desmo" reddit.com/r/Desmo
;)
 
 
2 hours later…
8:38 AM
I have quick notifications on, and Smokey pings me when spam, and stuff still gets nuked faster than I can pull out my phone and open the spam post :P
 
Is true
 
`wtf lol
 
I got a sneaky spam flag in from metasmoke
Tpu-'d it in time
There's been quite a bit of spam like that network wide lately
 
ikr
I almost got a flag
 
8:43 AM
Gosh dang
@emanresuA laughs in metasmoke
 
28 secs lol
 
Lmao
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing How do you move messages from your phone?
 
@emanresuA switch to the full site
 
8:44 AM
Desktop mode
 
It's an absolute nightmare to do
 
For iPhone users
 
Oof
 
But my laptop is all the way in my room, and I'm in my kitchen, so, it must be suffered
 
I've got a nifty little keyboard that allows for ctrl on Android
Meaning I can mass move on android
In other rooms that is
 
8:46 AM
checks timezone never mind it's actually a reasonable time for caird to be awake
 
Obviously I can't move any messages from here
 
@emanresuA it's not, only goddamn heathens wake up before 11am :P
 
Not yet at least
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Waiiittt.. did you sleep last night?
 
@emanresuA Yes actually :P
 
8:47 AM
:o
 
Annoyingly tho, I was drunk when I went to bed at 1am, and my brain decided to wake me up at 7am, hungover
It's a bank holiday today as well, so I legit had an excuse for a lie in
 
9:03 AM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

emanresu ADerivative of a product In calculus, the derivative of a mathematical function defines the rate at which it changes. The derivative of a function f(x) can be marked as f'(x), and these can sometimes be abbreviated to f and f'. The derivative of the product of two functions fg is f'g + g'f. The de...

 
9:14 AM
 
 
Somehow meta is stuck 2 years in the past
I don't know how but it's just like (「๑•₃•)「 hey let's not update the rep count for meta
 
@lyxal On the SE app, it forgets that I have a meta account every time I close if, so I have to "sign up" every time I want to do anything on meta :/
 
9:33 AM
Why do all the interesting challenges get posted when I'm asleep?
 
I just missed those lol
 
9:46 AM
Fun fact: if you have an OTG connector and a wired keyboard, it's easy to move multiple messages at once from your phone
Also fun fact: OTG isn't easily supported on iOS
Epic troll moment
 
@lyxal I can move multiple messages just as easily (read: not at all) as a single one. It's just that the spammer posted the second spam like an instant after I moved the first, which is just rude
 
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Q: Should we rehash Add A Language To A Polyglot?

emanresu AAdd a language to a polyglot was fun while it lasted. However, it's kinda stagnated due to the difficulty of running all the languages. I propose that we repost this challenge, maybe with stricter rules on what types of languages can be used but otherwise exactly the same. The current consensus o...

 
@emanresuA stasoid is still working on it...
 
10:01 AM
@cairdcoinheringaahing I know
 
Yeah, and I don't know what they've done to actually be able to run everything
This wouldn't replace the previous one, it would more be a second attempt to let more people try
Frick
Also, wtf? I have 8G ram so something's a bit off here
Okay, restarted and it was downloading a software update in the background
And now my computer's wayyyy laggier... yay
o/
 
 
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11:25 AM
@forest you can still fingerprint people using tor :(
Not very well but close enough
Why are fingerprinting techniques so good
People could be out there curing cancer instead of thinking up new ways to show you ads
 
hi
jihouiygktjy
 
11:41 AM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

pxegerShortest restricted superstring code-golf string optimization subsequence Let \$ a \preceq b \$ denote "\$ a \$ is a substring of \$ b \$". This is a non-strict substring relationship, so \$ a \preceq a \$ for all \$ a \$. Given two sets of strings, \$ D \$ and \$ R \$, find the shortest string \...

 
@Ginger truly insightful stuff here :p
 
Is there a problem with the formatting in the above meta post by @pxeger?
The test cases look really odd to me.
 
Yeah, the table doesn't render for some reason
 
Got it. Interesting challenge, though! Nice idea.
 
@Pyautogui fixed
 
11:46 AM
Thanks! Just saw the fixed table. Really like the idea of the challenge! I will be sure to answer when it is posted on main.
 
12:06 PM
I've found a good game engine
time to rewrite the editor!
 
@Ginger this was so inspirational I set it as my github status
 
okay then
 
Ironically of course
 
yea, this is going to require me to rewrite the entire editor
blugh
wait, melon.js is too full-featured
I need something simpler
perhaps... I should give in to Radvylf
and make a physics engine
wellllll
hmmmmm
 
12:36 PM
@allxy Almost certainly in the low megabytes
 
hello radvylf
 
12:58 PM
lol finally i have a competitor in desmos golfing
 
I wish for a competitor in zsh golfing
 
fireflame is really prominent is the desmos community, makes sense that hes really good at desmos golfing too :P
 
tfw your replit disconnects
 
@AidenChow imagine using reactions in (what I assume) is DMs
 
@lyxal is that something that no one does :|
i literally do that all the time
 
1:00 PM
looks through DMs no
you know who else doesn't use reacts?
redwolf
 
is there an issue with that?
 
wanna know why I know redwolf doesn't use reacts in discord DMs?
 
Image not found
 
@lyxal because I haven't gotten a response since February
that's how I know
 
1:12 PM
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

pajonkIs Wally there? code-golfarraydecision-problem Inpired by recent Stand-up Maths' video. Task Given a list x of positive digits and an array A of positive digits determine, whether any array made of wrapping x contains A. Rules Any reasonable input format is acceptable (list, string, array, etc....

 
1:53 PM
@emanresuA does your firefox not normally take 2 gigs of ram
mine's at nearly 5 rn
granted most of that's probably having like 50 youtube tabs open because i don't know how normal people listen to music
*157
 
what the, 157 tabs???
i dont think ive ever had that many tabs open at once in my entire life
 
most ive had is like 15 for a research project, thats about it
 
you never like
open a bunch of shit, thinking "i'll go back to that later"
and then not do that for like a week
 
@UnrelatedString i have usually shut down my pc by then
 
1:59 PM
wait you deadass just don't reopen tabs when you reboot
wow
i'm legitimately impressed
 
._.
 
ummm not sure if i should be flattered by that, is it really that common for ppl to have 100+ tabs open at once
 
you're telling me you don't routinely have to sit around for 5m while your raspberry pi desperately writes to swap trying to take care of firefox?
2
wow
 
@UnrelatedString Me neither
 
I never even considered that as an option
 
2:02 PM
i don't reopen the aforementioned 157 youtube tabs because they're in private browsing because my taste is so bad that i'd be embarrassed for it to be in my browser history
 
Y'all are some real weirdos
 
but everything else
 
@UnrelatedString That's what Tor is for
 
> Marx, K. (2007). Economic and philosophic manuscripts of 1844 (M. Milligan, Trans.). Dover Publications.
 
see, when I work on a project I end up using lots of libraries, which involves lots of documentation and lots of googling
 
2:03 PM
@RadvylfPrograms Something tells me the date's not correct on this citation
 
He has risen!
 
@Ginger finally someone gets it
 
so I end up with 5 IDE windows, 3 file explorers, 2 terminals and 260 tabs open to GitHub and SE
 
finally, someone who understands my coding style
 
2:04 PM
Okay but don't you close them when you're done to experience the satisfaction of a clean browser window?
 
yes but actually no
 
when he's done
 
^
bold of you to assume I will ever be done
 
Ah
 
ostensibly I do, but in reality when I have to pause working on a project for some reason I just log out like "I'll finish it later, better leave these tabs open so I don't forget"
and it escalates from there
the only reason I don't have >50 tabs open at any given time is because my raspberry pi would probably kill me in my sleep if I tried
tbh I'm surprised it hasn't already
 
2:07 PM
My pie gives me indigestion at worst, what kinda pie you eating?
 
pi not pie
does Radvylf have access to your computer or smth?
 
Oh no, eating irrationals is really bad for you
@Ginger Mine? No?
 
ah
you must have been trying to be "funny". I have heard of this.
 
Why do you ask lol
 
how... interesting.
but anyway back to Swap Hell
 
2:08 PM
@Ginger Indeed I was. I'm surprised you detected it without a sense of humor
 
I am equipped with the latest in humor-detection technology
 
2:20 PM
Okay I found the best 404 page
The Trades Union Congress's 404 page is "this page is on strike" lol
 
lmao
 
lmao
 
gg
Y'all ever just think the ceiling is higher than it is?
Because I do be like that a few seconds ago
 
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