The Nineteenth Byte

lyxal

00:09

@RadvylfPrograms imagine college spam.

Made by that doesn't happen here gang

Unrelated String

00:21

does it actually not

allxy

Imagine going to university within the next few years

Made by second year of high school gang

user

^^

Because if not i would love to move to Australia

I can even speak aussie

Gjoink, let’s wag our chins while we throw prawns at dolls, mate

5

lyxal

00:40

@UnrelatedString I never got college spam

Unrelated String

wow

lyxal

Purely because there aren't enough colleges here for spam to happen

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_universities_in_Australia

There's only 43 to choose from

And depending on where you live, that number is more likely 1 or 2

user

Whoa

lyxal

Unless you're willing to move elsewhere in the country there's basically only one in your greater region

user

Oh collegeboard probably contributed to my info going to random colleges

Unrelated String

00:43

yeahhhhhhhh

that is kind of when it starts

user

@lyxal many are (in us at least)

lyxal

@user my point was more that because the 43 unis are spread over the entire country, choices are effectively limited hence no need for spam in the first place

Unrelated String

yeah wait is moving elsewhere not considered expected

lyxal

Most people I knew from school stayed local

user

Huh, might be a culture thing

Unrelated String

00:45

like considering i'm at a state university i don't feel too weird for being from the same town but i still feel kind of fucking weird

lyxal

But also, local students isn't where unis make their most money

Advertising to us locals doesn't get the dollars in

user

Yeah

lyxal

The foreign student game is where unis here get their kromer

user

I didn’t start getting spam from local colleges until much later

Unrelated String

like for starters you're actually required by the school to spend your first year in residence and i only got out of that because i convinced the accommodations team i'm too autistic

so it's not like having a house nearby is something that anchors people

lyxal

00:47

@user no no I mean locals as in all Australians

Unrelated String

is tuition the same for in and out of province or is y'all's education just actually subsidized by the government

lyxal

It's not that it's subsidised it's more that foreign students pay more for some reason

Uni here used to be free but that was last century

Unrelated String

i would assume foreign students have to pay more because they aren't australian taxpayers

user

@lyxal oh

@UnrelatedString hâte schools that do that

@lyxal f

I feel like a lot of stuff that they claim is for your own good is just to make you pay more

Like gen eds

Could do college in 2-3 years without those

OldSandboxPosts

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allxy

01:09

119

Q: Will not wearing makeup affect my career?

I work at a small tech company in the accounting department. Our dress code is business casual, but most of the rank-and-file dress toward the casual end of that. I am female, in my early twenties. I was raised in a very conservative family and never wore makeup growing up. I never bothered wit...

allxy

01:26

@NewPosts And this is why underspecified C&Rs are so annoying...

I think SPDT would be really cool if it had a graphical interface

That'd be quite hard to implement though

Also maybe two-ended wires?

caird coinheringaahing

01:49

Huh, Aaron Shekey, one of the main designers for SE, left recently

Radvylf Programs

The idea of eternal life is kinda terrifying to me. Like, death's scary and all, but living forever after that would be awful

Like, a thousand years in, you'd be having a lot of fun still. A million? You've probably met everyone you've ever wanted to meet from your life and from history, seen the future of mankind, and done nearly everything there is to do. And that's only a drop in the infinitely large bucket. A billion? You'll be pretty tired of...existing. A trillion? Maybe you decide to simulate a universe. A quadrillion quadrillion?

allxy

I just learned about minecraft shulker farms and they feel illegal

Radvylf Programs

The old ones with duping?

allxy

@RadvylfPrograms [insert xkcd 505 here]

@RadvylfPrograms No, the new (1.17) farms

Radvylf Programs

Why do they feel like cheating? Bullets causing them to split into two is intended behavior

allxy

02:00

I guess

Radvylf Programs

@RadvylfPrograms At some point, you'd stop the simulation out of pity for the people in your universe, not wanting them to suffer from eternal, soul-crushing boredom for infinity in the same way you've been doomed to

And, after the entire universe has reached maximum entropy, inflated so large it's just space, you're still there. And you will be for...ever.

And like, at some point, eternal happiness is just eternally the same day every sunrise. You'd just curl up into a ball, and wait.

And maybe eternal happiness means the boredom and lack of productivity wouldn't literally crush you, and your mental health would stay stable and stuff, so you'd just be a lukewarm pillbug, feeling moderately pleased while lying in bed for the rest of time and far beyond that.

allxy

Radvylf Programs

02:18

Okay, while the voting and discussing's not entirely finished for the proposal to make a room for off-topic discussions, it seems people mostly just want stricter enforcement of our on-topic-ness rules, and moving conversations to dedicated rooms more proactively. So, I'm putting on my RO hat (which is sparkly and covered in dust) and making an announcement:

While TNB is a room that allows lots of off-topic discussion, it's gotten out of hand recently. Our chatiquette disallows excessive off-topic posting for a reason, and the silliness has recently been making it difficult to discuss things on-topic to the site, and has discouraged people from participating in TNB. So, before posting anything, please take a second to consider whether it belongs here, or if it would be better in its own room, or just not posted at all.

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allxy

I haven't seen any on-topic discussion in the last few days

Radvylf Programs

I've been partially responsible, quite a bit actually, for this, and I think a lot of the off-topic-ness has to do with a lull in activity on CGCC and a wave of new users in TNB, not any particular problematic user or group of users. But I, and according to the voting so far, y'all too, think that we should calm down a bit and make a better environment for CGCC and golfing conversations.

@allxy There's been some stuff about golfing language design, a bit of dicussion about sandbox drafts, and the meta-discussion about the off-topic-ness.

I think "Don't: Make Noise" is a good principle to keep in mind too. TNB's been pretty chatty, but we certainly don't need to be. There's nothing wrong with breaking a 2 hour gap in messages, for sure, but I suppose twenty minutes of silence is overall better than twenty minutes of clutter.

@allxy What do you mean by two-ended wires?

They can connect to any number of components, by the way

allxy

Wires can only connect to two things, and each other

You'd need to add a simple "connector"

Radvylf Programs

Like, for realism?

allxy

Pretty much :P

hyper-neutrino

02:29

The thing is there isn't really enough stuff going on on CGCC itself to keep this chat room active and so we'll have discussions that are not technically on the topic of code golf / Stack Exchange, such as mental health or education related discussions, so the question is whether or not we think those should belong to another room (IMO the former probably should be opt-in but the latter is pretty inconsequential for the most part).

Radvylf Programs

In theory I suppose you could use r - 1 2 - to connect wires 1 and 2, and restrict yourself to only using wires that connect to two things

hyper-neutrino

(Though the main issue is still noise; non-CGCC related topics can still exist and we can decide what to do with that but there's a lot of noise that isn't even on-topic to a technically off-topic topic.)

Unrelated String

^

Radvylf Programs

Yeah, if we should keep or move relatively thoughtful (as in, non-noisy) discussion about off-topic things is something I'm not too sure about.

Like, especially for things only a step or two away from golfing, like conlanging or discussing the school you go to.

Unicode spam, random screenshots, and totally off-topic streams of thought (both of the latter I'm pretty bad about doing myself) definitely aren't needed though

I think I made an IRL friend today though so I can direct some of my off-topic streams of consciousness elsewhere :p

lyxal

We should have something like a directory for where messages should go

like memes should be redirected to the meme stash

Radvylf Programs

02:38

A flowchart

lyxal

AI stuff should be sent to the edge of propinquity

Radvylf Programs

Wordle stuff to that math.se room

lyxal

Screenshots to a screenshot room

Radvylf Programs

Unicode spam to the unicode spam room

lyxal

Gaming to the gaming room

and that should cover most noise

Radvylf Programs

02:40

And I guess for the more specific noise we can make rooms

Followup announcement: I'm going to be really aggressive about moving off-topic stuff for the next week or so, probably more so than is necessary, but this can be a sort of...practice

allxy

Over the last few days:
- Cursed code in general
- Server discussion
- JavaScript * several
- Tinylisp
- canvas
- Windows
- GPT-3
- KoTHs
- wordle
- Vyxal
- Esolang design
- flags
- meta-discussion
- minecraft
- trig trolling
- VLQs
- ukraine
- College spam

Radvylf Programs

(And "aggressive" as in "moving stuff a lot" not "growling at you when you say something not golfing related")

allxy

The third-to-last item of that is quite important

Many recent questions haven't been good

lyxal

where should complains about assignments go?

Radvylf Programs

Cursed code, JavaScript being wack, tinylisp, KoTHs, Vyxal (though a better room exists), esolang design, flags, meta-discussion, and VLQ questions are all perfectly fine here IMO

2

Math stuff like the trig trolling and Minecraft stuff like Minecraft CPUs can be on-topic, depending on the context

I think more general programming related stuff is mostly on-topic here, as with math, since they're pretty necessary skills for code golfing.

lyxal

02:47

I now have a less juicy meme stash for random funny screenshots that aren't exactly memes

just so that non-memes don't get moved to the juicy meme stash

so actual memes causing noise go to the juicy stash and images that aren't memes causing noise go to the not-as-juicy stash

Radvylf Programs

Maybe give it a less specific name, so we can move in more generally off-topic memes and funny screenshots. "Lyxal's stash" feels more like you're the museum curator :p

lyxal

done

Radvylf Programs

+1

lyxal

Maybe add a noise-overflow tag to rooms aimed at redirecting noise?

I've added it to both meme stashes and the edge

Radvylf Programs

03:44

→ 2 messages moved to The Not-As-Juicy Dank Meme Stash

lyxal

I usually have disdain towards ants because they crawl all over everything and bite you and all annoying stuff like that. But somehow, I just felt enough concern for an ant to save it from being eaten by a spider.

Tf did they put in my McChicken to make me feel compassionate towards ants?

allxy

ants

Radvylf Programs

Which room would this sort of discussion be moved to?

Should we create an ant simping room or put it in the not-so-juicy-memes one

This is why I think we need a more general off-topic-TNB room :p

lyxal

Neither

It's not a screenshot and nothing more is going to be said about it

It's not going to start a conversation about ants or anything, so a room isn't really justified for a single message

Radvylf Programs

Yeah. A general off-topic room would really be useful IMO

Fragmenting into a dozen canonical noise overflow rooms is just a less efficient version of that

Having to maintain and remember to use the unicode spam room, the bakery, the meme stash, the not-so-juicy stash, the edge of propinquity, the wordle room, any rooms we make in the future for things like politics, language-specific rooms like Vyxal, and any topic-specific ones like Canvas is just too much

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allxy

04:05

I'm just going to avoid TNB for the next week

Shoudln't be hard because:

in canvas, 6 hours ago, by allxy

Announcement: I'm leaving for a week in about two days, do whatever y'all want with canvas. I'll try to get some stuff working before I leave.

DLosc

@RadvylfPrograms I agree that most of our recent tinylisp discussion has been reasonably on-topic here. However, I've also been very close to moving it to the tinylisp room. The main reason I haven't is because I know it'll get more eyes here. So feel free, anybody, to say "This is getting out of hand" and I'll gladly migrate.

Radvylf Programs

Since it was LYAL, I think it gets a free pass for discussion here in any amount of detail for the next week or so :p

DLosc

On that note: I've officially started implementing tinylisp 2, and I got lexical scope / closures working just now. Quite a thrill.

Radvylf Programs

And it's not like Vyxal where it's in active development and multiple maintainers need to coordinate and ensure all messages discussing it are in one easily accessible place

Well scratch the "not in active development" part xD

DLosc

^

Lol

PyGamer0

04:10

CMMP: Unfreeze TNH?

hyper-neutrino

TNH is not really an off-topic room

it'd make more sense to create a new one and leave TNH in the past

PyGamer0

@hyper-neutrino yeah i knowthat, its for more sensitive stuff

Radvylf Programs

What was TNH again?

hyper-neutrino

if we have a need for it we can unfreeze it but if y'all have a need for a room unfrozen just ping me directly; no need to vote to pre-emptively unfreeze a room before there's demand

allxy

@DLosc Nice :)

hyper-neutrino

04:12

@RadvylfPrograms if you're familiar with the RPG.se chat split, it's just that. if not, basically I made it to move controversial (political) discussions out of TNB since it may make the environment too uncomfortable for some users so it's better that it's in a side room to be opt-in rather than opt-out

allxy

That and maybe the macro evaluation thing is probably all you need

Radvylf Programs

Oh, could you unfreeze TNBakery while you're here?

We haven't gotten spam in a while apparently

hyper-neutrino

done

Radvylf Programs

Thanks!

Steps to be hyper-neutrino:
1. Constantly get pinged about unfreezing rooms

DLosc

@allxy Well, I'm kind of starting from scratch (with a lot of copy-pasting), so it also needs a bunch of builtins, including load, and a library. It does have the new macros, tho--I basically just copied the implementation from Appleseed. :D

hyper-neutrino

04:15

many mods would kill to have a job as easy as mine :P

allxy

@RadvylfPrograms At this rate it's going to freeze again lol

Radvylf Programs

I'll just set up a roulette bot that randomly moves one on-topic message per week to the bakery and then comments "lol"

PyGamer0

lol

hyper-neutrino

sounds like an excellent idea

allxy

@DLosc I can help with implementing macroes in tinylisp

(e.g. short-circuiting and/or)

hyper-neutrino

04:17

if we need it to stay unfrozen the easiest method is for me to just ping makyen in tl and ask him to keep antifreezing it lol

PyGamer0

time to port this thing to flax: O’4ḍ-*Ä+ƲỤs2Ṣị, lets hope it works

allxy

Also, can you add the Y combinator to the stdlib this time?

@PyGamer0 Trying to figure out what that does

Is that the most recent challenge?

Radvylf Programs

I'm not really sure what people dislike about the concept of a room for off-topic discussion alongside TNB. it has downvores, but not much in the way of explanations of way other than "it's not really practical"

allxy

Unrelated String had a 10-byter?

PyGamer0

@allxy pair my ~~socks~~ brackets

allxy

04:20

I recognise about half of that and I'm misinterpreting the other half from Vyxal lol

Radvylf Programs

Like, sure, chat's designed to have disposable rooms for off-topic discussions, but a lot of what we get is just a couple of messages, like lyxal's ant thing or my occasional college spam updates or occasional existentialism. Having twenty different rooms for different categories of stuff, like unicode spam, screenshots, etc., will always miss some types of off-topic content, is hard to maintain, and makes it so that people kind of have to post off-topic stuff here first then have it moved.

DLosc

Dec 21, 2021 at 18:01, by Redwolf Programs

Uh...unfortunate typo

Radvylf Programs

Although the idea of a room parallel to TNB that requires constant subjective judgements about what's on-topic enough to be worthy of the main room would be difficult to get used to, I think it's the only real solution other than either having to allow lots of off-topic clutter to slip by, or moving it to an irrelevant room like the bakery.

allxy

Meh, I think off-topic is fine when there's nothing on-topic

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DLosc

@allxy Thanks! It'll probably be a few days before I add the new repository on GitHub, and then I will be happy to merge some pull requests. (Including a Y-combinator.) I should probably put together a library coding conventions document...

Sandbox Posts

04:24

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Multiples Game Given an array of divisors A, loop n from 1 to infinity and do one of the following: If n is divisible by an even number of divisors of A, print out n If n is divisible by an odd number of divisor(s) of A, print out * (clap) Examples Input: A = [3, 5] Output: 1 2 * 4 * * 7 8 * *...

allxy

@DLosc Yeah. Feel free to close that PR I added. 'cos I'll be away for a week in two days, I won't be able to help until I get back

Radvylf Programs

@allxy I kind of don't. Occasional off-topic-ness is fine, esp. programming and math related topics, but the excessive silliness, noise, and wildly off-topic discussion is harmful to the room overall in a number of ways

DLosc

@RadvylfPrograms Devil's advocate: what's wrong with people posting stuff here first, then having it moved? And why does the same type of off-topic content necessarily have to go into the same room, rather than a new room each time it happens?

Radvylf Programs

Well, moving requires an RO or mod to be present and move it, and it leaves behind the "xyz was moved" message.

DLosc

@allxy I'll do that--also because the new version is going in its own repository, and keeping the original repository consistent with the version on TIO feels appropriate.

Radvylf Programs

04:26

And making a new room for four messages about saving an ant, an unfortunate typo in my english assignment, or today's college spam to their own rooms just isn't practical.

allxy

@DLosc Yeah, although I guess you'll need somewhere to host it

Maybe RTO/ATO (@RadvylfPrograms/@pxeger)

Radvylf Programs

The most problematic form of noise IMO isn't the long but thoughtful off-topic discussions, like ones about politics or subjects like math and science. It's the clutter and noise, streams of consciousness, and other things which don't require prolonged discussion.

allxy

Ooh... I wonder if I can get pyodide to run it?

DLosc

@allxy Yep, I'll definitely request for it to be added to ATO once I have something worth adding. Might also try again to get it working on Replit. Now that I've got a Pip REPL running at Replit, I really like the idea of being able to run a language in REPL mode there as well as non-REPL mode elsewhere.

allxy

I might be able to get it running as a repl in js

Radvylf Programs

04:29

RTO's going to have a REPL built-in

Eventually

allxy

Yeah, but a JS repl is (while not native speed) instant.

Radvylf Programs

There'll be a "Run" tab for individual programs, and a "Try" tab with a REPL or some other interactive thing

@allxy yeah, true. Language specific online interpreters will always be more efficient and configurable.

PyGamer0

alright i think i ported it: i˜SÇ⍋+K¯*ᶲ4ḍ{

allxy

Is it just me or is that shorter?

PyGamer0

it is, but i have to test it to see if it works

just 1 byte short

obviously it doesn't work

Radvylf Programs

04:36

I propose an experiment: After one week of our current plan, we create an off-topic-room for one week, and see how well both seem to work

allxy

Write it like you'd write a normal program

lyxal

@RadvylfPrograms I can get behind that

see if either idea works

PyGamer0

i give up

PyGamer0

05:41

      i˜SÇ⍋+K¯*ᶲ4ḍ{
>>> "{]([(}]{)}"
]([}(]}{{(

so umm, it sort of works

except it doesnt work

this is hard

in flax, 11 secs ago, by PyGamer0

CMP: New release?

@lyxal @allxy ^

lyxal

I would say so

PyGamer0

i will just carefully read the code and then make a new release

PyGamer0

06:00

in flax, 7 secs ago, by PyGamer0

v0.1.4

@lyxal ^ done

Unrelated String

06:20

9 hours ago, by Unrelated String

it's still probably possible to make pathing that beats the default attackbot by some margin

done :)

PyGamer0

> Will write a challenge soon™️

when will you?

Unrelated String

soon™️

i had a challenge idea like two months ago but cba to salvage it

PyGamer0

CMP: What questions should I answer in my new language?

i guess my bookmarked ones

i am waiting for ato to have flax :P

New Posts

06:38

0

Q: Diiference between performance testing and load testing

What is the key difference between performance testing and load testing and what open source tool i can use for this.

underload

Unrelated String

that's a new one

PyGamer0

why is it already bookmarked lol

look at the tag lol

Unrelated String

lmao

Jo King

and yup, both the question asker and the answerer have the same IP

Unrelated String

phenomenal

like it's some really confused attempt at spam or something

PyGamer0

06:52

@lyxal look: Ï⅀

do you recognise that

allxy

@NewPosts Laughed out loud

The tag is the cherry on top

lyxal

07:09

@PyGamer0 oh no is that original vyxal code page?

Goodness me that's a blast from the past

allxy

Original Vyxal codepage was kinda cursed ngl

@lyxal When do you think Vyxal became its own language instead of Keg 2.0?

lyxal

v3

Which is still going slowly btw

Although I'd argue that it never was Keg 2.0

allxy

That was your design intent tho :P

lyxal

07:48

@allxy design inspiration

Not intent

The intent was to make anything but Keg

allxy

I guess lol

lyxal

And apart from a few stylistic syntax things, I'd say I did a pretty good job of accomplishing that

PyGamer0

@lyxal thats a keg program :)

user

09:06

@lyxal i promise I’ll get mist of it done in june/mat

Just busy with exams and life rn

lyxal

@user I more meant that the element planning has a while to go

allxy

09:28

Ouch... Combining Python and JS promises is hard.

Also wtf python - try...except...else???

tfw radvylf created tinylisp

Just found this gem in the tinylisp source code:

(def tinylisp (q awesome))

lyxal

11:01

Okay so I've had a little idea on how to help address the noise issue here. What if instead of trying to reduce the noise, you increase the on topic conversation to "drown out" the noise. My suggestion would be to have a full day purely dedicated to people asking for feedback on code golf related projects they're working on.

2

allxy

That's never gonna work

lyxal

Kind of like LYAL but for on topic subjects in general

allxy

Let stuff come when it comes

lyxal

I'm not done yet

I'm thinking of a new chat event that really draws people into being on topic

People would nominate on topic things they would want help with and the chat focus would be helping them build or solve whatever they're working on

They'd sort of be like community directives - things that are on topic that people would want to collaborate on

allxy

Is that really more on-topic than what usually happens?

lyxal

11:05

It would be a hyper focus on on-topic conversation

Just to get people into the mindset of on topic

This is just an idea at this stage

An idea to be discussed

A community directive about community directives so to say

Oh and it'd be reoccurring event too

Maybe taking the place of BMG

24 hour long events seem to perform better than 1 hour events

allxy

This is either just a phase or a feedback cycle

canvas + CGCC inactivity -> silence -> off-topicness -> some users temporarily leave -> silence

And what even defines "on-topic" and "off-topic" anyway? The line's very blurred.

I'm kinda glad that I'm not here for the next week

Y'all are overreacting, I think

Although maybe I'm a bit biased, since I've been moving away from CGCC over the past few weeks

> Storing Data using that sessionStorage object is a really useful way to keep data on the client-side. Obviously this has some outstanding security flaws where data could be easily accessed without the user’s permission. Always ensure encrypt your data before storing them.

ಠ_ಠ

user

11:22

Are they suggesting storing sensitive information on the user’s side?

allxy

Yep lol

user

Or just random site settings and stuff?

@allxy oh no

allxy

"But encrypted, so it's fine"

user

Where is this from?

allxy

codesource.io/localstorage-vs-sessionstorage-explained

user

11:23

@lyxal oh ok

lyxal

@allxy I agree with this too

user

> Wisdom Ekpot

lyxal

@allxy finally someone gets it

user

Do browsers prevent other tabs from accessing that tab’s storage?

If so, this is somewhat more reasonable but still weird

allxy

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

lyxal

11:27

Hey wait why are we letting JS do the session handling?

That's to be done by the controllers

PyGamer0

@allxy ~~how about we change that temporary to permanent~~

lyxal

Not the views

user

@PyGamer0 boutta do that myself tbh

Once I’m done with vyxal I’m probably going to leave cgcc

Eats up too much of my time without giving much in return anymore

allxy

> done with Vyxal

One does not simply stop using Vyxal

Instead, one uses Vyxal for everything

user

I mean like 70% done implementing the Scala version

allxy

11:35

~~vyxal on arduino~~

user

@allxy joke’s on you, i never started using it

@allxy oh god no

allxy

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Q: Sieve of Eratosthenes in Vyxal

I'm trying to learn the golfing language Vyxal because I occasionally contribute to it, and I'm slightly ashamed I can't even use it. To do this, I started with implementing the Sieve of Eratosthenes in Vyxal. I'd like to know how to make this code more readable and idiomatic, and, if there are i...

primes sieve-of-eratosthenes vyxal

user

Vyxal ffi would be so painful

allxy

@user The binary would probably be too large :P

user

True lol

@allxy ignore plz

I think this sort of “off topic “ conversation is fine because no one else is speaking rn

3

Tnb id informal anyway

allxy

11:41

@user Yeah, there's nothing really to do one you get 2⅓ best ofs and 25k internet points

lyxal

@user you right

allxy

So TIL npx http-server appears to mess with sessionStorage

... never mind

sessionStorage is being weird on its own and I can't figure out why

PyGamer0

@lyxal he no right, he user!

allxy

TIL mail.mozilla.org

lyxal

Lowkey just tried to connect to my wireless headphones not realising that I hadn't turned them on yet. Big brain time.

allxy

11:51

4

Q: i won a guessing type game and they sent me $9500 and they are asking me to send it back trough different ways and that i will get more money

I won and ended up giving them all this info I got $9500 in my account but now they are asking me to send it back thru different methods with the methods that don't work now. They say it's to prove to the company that they can trust me. and that I will get more money back. is this a scam and if ...

scams

o/

Ginger

12:06

hiyih

~~vyxal ported to CircuitPython~~

I intend to stay with CGCC

@RadvylfPrograms I like this idea

1

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Will this makina program halt? makina is a cell-based esolang composed of automata which move around a grid. These automata follow paths of instructions that direct their movement. Your task is to, given a makina program using the below instructions as input, output a truthy or falsy value depend...

^ onioni?

lyxal

12:35

This is all I'll mention of it here, but is anyone up for some uno?

(respond in gaming room)

Bgil Midol

@lyxal link?

lyxal

I'll give it next round

Ginger

tfw you almost post a hashed version of your IP address to some random chatroom

lyxal

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Bgil Midol

ok

Ginger

12:43

prediction: this challenge will never be solved in makina.

in fact, I'm so sure of that I'm going to make a bounty

tfw you want to make a makina answer but it's too hard

here's an awful idea: self-modifying makina

here's a prototype makina program for print 0-100 w/o 1-9:

v  Ltaaa;
>>?e
^vOL
^>OCS
^vu>n0;
^v>Pv
^OUCOn0;
^>n0;
<<<<<

New Bounties With No Deadlines

13:10

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A: List of bounties with no deadline

1000 rep to an answer to this challenge in makina Pretty self-explanatory. If you manage to post a functional answer to that challenge in makina, I'll give you 1k rep. I'm pretty sure this is impossible, but would loved to be proved wrong!

ophact

there's a feed for that too?

TIL

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