The Nineteenth Byte

Ginger

19:00

YOLO confirmed

Radvylf Programs

@Ginger Yeah it's mine, but since I've got four separate URLs using it you need the right SNI or it'll 404

Ginger

~~make the IP itself redirect to a rickroll~~

@PyGamer0 am i a sock of lyxal

Radvylf Programs

Dammit chrome does escaping that curl doesn't do, so it wouldn't work as an XSS :/

Ginger

:<

blursed_emoticon

Radvylf Programs

But I invite you to gaze upon just how cursed my school's setup is:

radvylf@penguin:~$ curl '104.188.174.251?" value="YOUR MOM LMAOOOO'
<html><body onload="document.forms[0].submit()">
<form action="https://wh.contentkeeper.net/a15e38/blockpage.html" method="GET">
<input type="Hidden" name="URL" value="104.188.174.251">
<input type="Hidden" name="CAT" value="Custom-URL --> (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/)">
<input type="Hidden" name="CATNO" value="33">
<input type="Hidden" name="ACC" value="tosh_888311/leander">
<input type="Hidden" name="WHY" value="Policy=student_hs; AD Group=all-hs-students">

Ginger

19:04

:|

mathcat

lol

Ginger

that is awful

mathcat

that is funny

Ginger

I hope that digital hagfish of code never disgraces my ocular nerve again

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pxeger

@RadvylfPrograms does it work with # or \ instead of ??

Radvylf Programs

19:05

Ooh good idea

Lemme check

pxeger

Or just / even

Radvylf Programs

Nope :/

I accidentally set off the keyword detector instead of the IP address one because my initial message was "YOUR FRICKING MOM LMAOOOO" so instead of "Custom-URL --> (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/)" it was "Keyword --> (FRICKING)"

So hopefully there's no manual review lel

Ginger

strange tnb message #38841:

Mar 3 at 13:19, by Ginger Industries

@lyxal you mean people don't magically teleport into unoccupied bathtubs?

Radvylf Programs

Idk, happens to me all the time

pxeger

Is it just me, or does linking to a specific SE chat message now put a tiny green dot in the top-left corner of the message?

Radvylf Programs

19:09

Just you

pxeger

I only magically teleport into occupied bathtubs. It's actually really awkward every time it happens.

Ginger

the full conversation

mathcat

@pxeger ...

Ginger

Aug 6, 2016 at 9:18, by New Main Posts

SPAM, SPAM, CHIPS, AND SPAM. AND CUSTARD

@NewPosts explain yourself

pxeger

obligatory

Ginger

19:14

~~bad~~ idea: use @GingerBot to post a random CMC every 30m during BMG

(provided there's activity ofc)

Radvylf Programs

If you have JS disabled their blockpage doesn't even show lol

Ginger

ಠ_ಠ

oh that looks much worse than I thought

jesus

Aaroneous Miller

is this a valid quine?

pxeger

I don't think so

Radvylf Programs

Not really, but it counts according to the challenge's rules

Ginger

19:18

it outputs its source code, therefore it's a quine

des54321

it outputs its own source code, that counts as a quine

Ginger

seems fine to me

pxeger

@RadvylfPrograms I think those challenge's rules necessarily mean it must follow standard quine rules

DLosc

@Ginger Hey, don't diss the hagfish. Hagfish are pretty cool. =P

pxeger

It doesn't actively output its source code, it outputs something which happens to be the same as its source code

des54321

19:18

its a pretty boring quine, that doesnt mean its not a quine

Radvylf Programs

And our standard quine rules allow it

@pxeger Kinda unobservable

pxeger

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A: We need a new proper quine definition

A proper quine must contain data that encodes both itself, and something else Our current quine definition has the following phrase: It must be possible to identify a section of the program which encodes a different part of the program. ("Different" meaning that the two parts appear in diffe...

@RadvylfPrograms They definitely don't

des54321

@pxeger imo actively outputting its source code would mean reading its own code, which is a cheating quine

Radvylf Programs

1 encodes the source code, and the output is implicit

Ginger

@DLosc they are, but they also look disgusting

like that code ~~or your mother~~

New Posts

19:20

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Q: Can We Make 0-NAND OR Gates in [logic-gate] Challenges?

Some logic-gate challenges require you to use only NAND gates to solve a problem. Usually, constructing an OR gate from NAND gates requires 3 NAND gates. However, an OR gate can also be constructed using 0 NAND gates, by simply joining 2 pieces of wire together: A---\ ---Output B---/ Is joi...

mathcat

Why isn't there a compilation of ginger industries' mother jokes?

Ginger

*ginger technologies

pxeger

You don't need a compilation. There's only one Ginger Industries Mother Joke, and that's his mother herself

Ginger

also why would you want one

@pxeger >:(

pxeger

lol

mathcat

19:27

@Ginger ~~medical reasons~~

Ginger

people_to_nuke.insert("pxeger", 0)

mathcat

wth

no

people_to_nuke+=["pxeger"]

this is code golf btw

pxeger

@mathcat that doesn't do the same thing

it adds it to the end, not the beginning

mathcat

hmm right

Ginger

@RadvylfPrograms hey

Radvylf Programs

19:31

It was janky at the time, OLIMAR's been doing well from what I've seen

This was two months ago

Ginger

OLIMAR is dead

(temporarily)

Radvylf Programs

Oh, sorry for disrespecting the dead

Ginger

(because I can't ssh into my server for some reason)

Radvylf Programs

Oh rip

Might want to check for a hack

You might've been totally pwned by a l33t haxxor

Ginger

hm

@all have you pwned me

mathcat

19:32

people_to_nuke[:0]=["pxeger"]

Pyautogui

Who would maintain ATO if not pxeger, though?

Radvylf Programs

It would allow RTO to win

Ginger

ninja'd

Radvylf Programs

And RTO doesn't need maintenance

™

(jk RTO hearts ATo hearts TIO)

Ginger

[insert 1940s cruise missile line here]

Radvylf Programs

19:34

(we've got some sort of weird online interpreter love triangle going on)

Ginger

@RadvylfPrograms OLIMAR is the third wheel in this relationship I guess

pxeger

I don't recall ever loving either of you

3

Radvylf Programs

Hearts aren't necessarily bidirectional

OLIMAR

@pxeger 💔

Radvylf Programs

RTO can heart ATO without it being loved back, that makes it dramatic

mathcat

19:35

oooh

pxeger

No, that makes it... harassment

Radvylf Programs

No?

Ginger

romance movie about online interpreters

mathcat

is there a part 2?

Radvylf Programs

Having a crush on something isn't stalking it

Ginger

19:36

Par for the Course presents: Misinterpretation

Radvylf Programs

Two very different things

RTO is offended right now

Ginger

anthropomorphized RTO when

Radvylf Programs

@pxeger No that's even more incorrect!

smh it's almost like TNB people don't understand interpersonal relationships

(or the lack thereof despite one being silently wished for by one of the parties)

Ginger

I wonder why a bunch of constantly-online nerds with no life would have trouble with romance.

pxeger

it was tongue in cheek, obviously

Radvylf Programs

19:38

But we all know TIO loves both of the interpreters equally

TIO's like a brother to them

Ginger

let's end this right here before it gets any weirder

Radvylf Programs

lol fine

Ginger

I have a mental picture of pressing an emergency stop button

Romanp

CMQ
What are the divisors of (10^49801 - 1)/9? Mathematica says it's not prime, suggesting http://oeis.org/A004023 is wrong, but I can't find the prime factors.

Ginger

lemme find their room

mathcat

19:39

nononon

Romanp

I was joking cause there was a CGCC question about this recently

mathcat

exactly

codegolf needs maths

nice it worked

Radvylf Programs

Well, starting on my esolang that got interrupted by a chrome bug

Now that it's fixed

allxy

@Ginger ... this pings me

pxeger

You seem to be very adept and finding chrome bugs

Ginger

19:43

@allxy what

Radvylf Programs

@pxeger No there was just the one

Ginger

@allxy is the entire population of earth confirmed

Radvylf Programs

This is from a while ago

pxeger

Oh

Unrelated String

@pxeger that's not the best way to phrase it but yeah it's the standard invalid/trivial quine

allxy

19:44

Chat pings are weird

@RadvylfPrograms Is this the blank console.log?

Radvylf Programs

No

Wait maybe

Which was that again

I think this bug is from before you were here

Wait no yeah it is

Ginger

comedy

Radvylf Programs

The language I was making when I ran into that bug is one based on physical circuits

Oh it's actually a fully working interpreter already

Pog

Ginger

tfw you discover an unfinished project is actually finished

Radvylf Programs

It's pretty useless without a GUI though, so I'll start on that

pxeger

19:51

@Romanp mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=602219&postcount=35

Romanp

Interesting...

Ginger

for a second I read showpost as shitpost

I have a faint memory of being in some random chatroom talking to a programmer, when they tried to assert their superiority by saying "I made a BrainFuck interpreter in 70 lines of Python". If only I could talk to them now...

Radvylf Programs

assert this.superiority; // fails

Ginger

dunno, works for me

allxy

SYNTAXERROR (at least theree different languages)

Ginger

19:58

the ree

allxy

python: this is not defined. js: unexpected identifier. Vyxal: Unopened structure closed

DLosc

TIL you can search the chat logs for < by entering < in the search box

allxy

chat's weird

DLosc

@allxy Pip: outputs a newline

Ginger

@RadvylfPrograms how's this going?

Radvylf Programs

20:03

Not well, pulseaudio was doing weird stuff and I temporarily stopped working on anything with the rpi

Ginger

pulse is very strange

pxeger

@allxy Shouldn't it syntax error because of the ; //?

Ginger

tbh audio on linux in general is strange

one of my most-used commands is unfortunately sudo systemctl restart bluetooth.service

Radvylf Programs

The problem I had is that pulse depends on /proc/user/1000, and that only exists when you're logged in

So it would only work when I had an active SSH connection

Ginger

eugh

Romanp

20:09

@pxeger FactorInteger finally finished and confirmed this.

DLosc

@allxy On further reflection, l isn't necessary as a builtin at all. It can be defined recursively: Try it online! (N is a helper function: (N X X) returns 1 if X is negative, 0 otherwise.)

des54321

@Ginger I think that bluetooth in general is just strange, my headphones theoretically have a microphone, but it never works with my (windows 10) laptop

allxy

@DLosc Hm, cool

DLosc

So the core builtins of tinylisp (leaving out stuff like load, disp, and string functions) can be boiled down to just c h t s e i v d q. And I'm not sure how necessary e is: although it can't be fully implemented in terms of the others, it's easy to implement a function that does equality checking for integers, and it should be possible to do one for lists, too.

Radvylf Programs

20:26

TIL about the CSS + and ~ selectors

allxy

20:39

@DLosc Yeah, just (i(s x y)0 1)

@RadvylfPrograms What dot hos edo?

Radvylf Programs

developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/…

allxy

Oh yeah, I remember that one

New Posts

21:14

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Q: Translate Text into Matoran

The Matoran Alphabet is the alphabet used by many of the characters in the Bionicle universe. Your challenge is to create a program or function that takes a string as input and creates an image of the input written in the Matoran alphabet. The input will only consist of uppercase letters (A-Z), ...

code-golf kolmogorov-complexity graphical-output

DLosc

22:55

If you like Lisp, the LISP 1.5 Programmer's Manual from 1962 is such a fun read. All the familiar constructs come into being from first principles right before your eyes.

DLosc

23:07

It all seems almost like a (simplified) modern Lisp... until you get to the paragraph about how to format your punched cards. X^D

allxy

Lol

Radvylf Programs

You mean you don't still program on punch cards? I'm over here tryna write Unary, spent $15k on cards and broke every bone in my hands but I'll get there some day

6

Sadge, Minecraft's launcher isn't working on my Chromebook

Some sort of dynamic linking issue I think

allxy

wtf yourube

Seggan

23:26

black hole:

forest

What about one trillion lion-sized suns or one sun-sized lion?

Radvylf Programs

The sun-sized lion would collapse in on itself and become a black hole (panther?)

Seggan

@RadvylfPrograms nah itd be not dense enough. itd be a giant meatball

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