Personally I don't bother with little things like chars -> bytes or adding TIO links, since there's an infinite ocean of posts like that and they don't really hurt, but if you stumble across one occasionally it's fine to fix it.

I wouldn't go out and actively look for them though, much like with "non-competing" in answer headers

oh

cuz i was looking at balancing chemical equations

and no i dont wanna spare the main page lol

i rarely look at it at all

balancing chemical equations is very old, its like the first chemistry question posted in CG

@DialFrost uh but other ppl do

i know i do

spare meaning?

oh i replied to the wrong msg, i meant other ppl look at the front page

ogae

when u edit smth, the post gets bumped to the top for everyone

for the main page?

i certainly dont want to see a bunch of old posts on top

LOL

i dont look at main page

:/

@DialFrost yeah........ but other ppl do

orh

i js look at the questions page lol

Personally I'm against the main page bumping edits

I think it's detrimental to the quality of the site if people hold back from making minor edits

@DialFrost yeah, me too, but i also look on the front page to see if there are any other older challenges that i can do that other ppl are doing along with the newer questions

@RadvylfPrograms ? wdym so you encourgae edits?

im not editing the answers yet lol waiting to see if bumping old qns to main page actually helps/doesnt help

@DialFrost i think hes saying that edits are good, but edits being bumped on front page is bad

I'm saying I think the front page shouldn't show edits in the first place. But since it does, we need to avoid pointlessly bumping stuff.

@RadvylfPrograms ah

cant we js remove bumping edits?

its kinda annoying tbh

It's been talked about over and over again, typically people suggest adding a "this is a minor edit" checkbox that doesn't bumb it

@DialFrost i dont think anyone here at the moment has the power to do that

@RadvylfPrograms agreed

@AidenChow :(

someone call up the mods or owner lol

You should see like, generic internet forums, when someone edits or posts a comment on something older than like a month everyone gets super-aggro on them for "necroing" and it's just onbnoxious. Glad we're not that bad when it comes to bumping stuff lol

okey

shld i not edit then

this qns is 6 years old

@DialFrost u could, just not excessively, like radvylf programs said

Like I said earlier, editing every once in a while is perfectly fine

is 4 excessive?

i think a couple at a time shouldnt be too disruptive

@DialFrost on the same post?

i mean question?

nononono

ah ye

prob not 4

If it's on the same question, edit to your heart's content. That only bumps a single question.

mb

well that only bumps up that one question

@RadvylfPrograms ah ok lol

thx guys

np

Ooh I have a KotH idea

I might actually bother to post this one

It won't be too hard to program, and it should be fun and I can probably make it clickbaity

stupid python 2 old users

@RadvylfPrograms cool, koth questions are rare

sys.argv destroys tio

@AidenChow Yeah, haven't had one in ages

@emanresuA well the last koth question posted was last month, but that one has no answers

Oh yeah, that one

welp

What about bomberman koth?

That could be interesting

@emanresuA i have no idea what bomberman is but sure

help

You're on a grid, you place bombs and blow stuff up which opens up pathways and breaks blocks which give you powerups. Bombs can kill people, including the one who placed them, and the last one alive wins.

tinyurl.com/mvbw8vsd

python 2 gae

idk how sys.argv works for python 2

@DialFrost add an argument instead, not input

its right under input

i've never used arguments b4

u can add an argument

oh wait

it actually worked

its a dropdown menu

HOW

thx @AidenChow

ye, sys.argv returns a list of the inputted command line arguments

np

how bout this

tinyurl.com/59tap54n

theres no output

cant help u with that one, idk mathematica

lol

me neither

* Your program must terminate in reasonable time for all reasonable inputs.

is this supposed to be in the question when there is already code-golf tag?

@DialFrost if u put Print[b["C7H16+O2->CO2+H2O"]] in the footer, it seems to work

terminating in reasonable time is far from standard depending on the nature of the challenge

@UnrelatedString its balancing chemical equations

i should remove it right

if you want to require it then say so, is what i'm saying

uh

i mean it doesnt make sense to require terminating in reasonable time

thats wat im saying

especially since most challenges dont require it

unless its like conway's game of life or smh

well, the question was posted in 2012, standards were different back then.

soooo

do i remove it then

@AidenChow 2016*

wait no 2012

personally, i would advise against editing older questions (especially ones from 2012), because there are already answers on those questions, and changing their specs might cause the answers to be invalid and/or cause the answers to have some new golfs based on the specs that uve removed or added

in this case, if you remove the line "Your program must terminate in reasonable time for all reasonable inputs." from the problem, who knows if some of the answers are optimized (most likely adding more bytes to their answer) just to meet that condition?

@AidenChow doesnt cause them to be invalid

@DialFrost ^^

ah ok i see ur point

^^^^

im boomarking this qns cuz i luv chemistry

XD

At least you're not in my web design class

i had a book i had to access through the university's library system for a class last semester and it was a real pain in the ass to pull up

@emanresuA well at least it isn't XML and XSLT

flexbox probably

oh so flexboxes are something separate from tables

that and or floats

interesting

@UnrelatedString yes

tables are html tags

Flexbox / grid / absolute positioning / don't have HTML, just a giant canvas

flexboxes are wizardry that relies on divs and CSS classes

@lyxal so all modern webpage design uses css for layout? whoa

it's basically black magic

I occasionally use JS for layout

anyone know why i love editing old posts? :/

Because I made this neat library that creates a fixed-shape sliding canvas

> A sleepy Parisian, heading to the Eiffel Tower on autopilot, can execute this algorithm without putting it in words.

???

context: Suppose we want to go from the Louvre Museum to the Eiffel Tower in Paris. To that, we first walk west along the Right Bank, then cross the Seine at the Passerelle Léopold Sédar Senghor, and then continue walking west along the Left Bank to the Eiffel Tower. We do this perhaps without even knowing we are using an algorithm, a procedure that takes us from the Louvre to the Eiffel Tower.

That barely sort of maybe counts as context

further context: a chapter describing what algorithms are

I guess

furthermost context: I need to describe what an algorithm is and I'm looking for an academically acceptable source that does it for me

@UnrelatedString Using tables for layout is like saying "I learned HTML in the 90s" without saying you learned HTML in the 90s

i will never understand why introduction to the concept of computing courses feel the need to talk about the definition of an algorithm but in all fairness i don't understand why introduction to the concept of computing courses exist either

ngl I was tempted to use tables for a web assignment I did recently purely because lyxal brain no CSS very well

CSS is pretty jank, and if you have to support older browsers, CSS is like voluntarily solving a maze drawn on your body using a knife to mark the path you take

Sandbox posts last active a week ago: Finding an element in an array

codegolf.stackexchange.com/posts/245345/revisions

So apparently if you zoom into Radvylf's pfp, this is what you see:

Or it could just be what happens when you use your favourite AI artwork generation app with Radvylf's pfp as an influence for the result and use the prompt "Redwolf Programs" and the dark fantasy style

The interesting thing about that generator is how it makes things that we humans recognise as patterns but actually are random noise

Look at those creatures at the top and you see wolves. Look closer and you see a bunch of random red-and-gray lines which sort of look like some kind of creature but mostly don't.

Yeah, I really love it. It's like it's able to just precisely undo the same abstractions and simplifications our brains make.

that's almost how it works is the cool thing

Based on EmanresuA, blacklight style and pfp

Wow that's cool

Can I have the whole image?

That is the whole image

It only lets you use a rectangular portion of the original image as influence

Oh.

Unrelated String, providence style

Did you behead someone?

Try hyper next?

Ginger is next

Okay

ooh

Has science gone too far?

Is that Ginger?

It is

I see it now

Also I figured out how to make it use the whole pfp

Download from profile, screenshot the pfp in the photos app and use that

@lyxal yes.

I tried so many different variations of that

And this was the clearest lambda I could get

@emanresuA I made a full picture for you

And one last one of Radvylf

@lyxal Thanks :)

@lyxal That's scary

Okay so you know how they say there's two wolves inside everyone? Well that implies there's two wolves inside Radvylf. And seeing as how Radvylf is a red wolf, that implies wolves can have wolves inside them. And that implies that it's wolves all the way down. It just recurses forever.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk

how should colors be scored in geogebra? u have to manually set it in the settings of the particular expression, so how would that work

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ How are settings scored in desmos?

@emanresuA u can use the rgb() builtin function in desmos

but geogebra does not have anything like that

Then you can't use it in code golf

@Bubbler rip ok, thats kinda what i thought

Unless... unless there's some way you can export a coloured expression

am i allowed to golf somone's code while editing

but like have ungolfed with comments (given by user) and golfed by me

btw @emanresuA i like the new version of ur pfp

cuz the person alr golfed his code and showed his byte no.

but not the golfed version

No.

?

so i cant?

im js adding the golfed code

that the user counted in bytes in the header but didnt show the golfed code

@hyper-neutrino oh no oh frick what have I done

Wdym?

@emanresuA is that directed to me?

sigh

so exmaple

Yes

the user says 442 bytes in his answer, but his code is actually 1.1k bytes

but if u remove all comments and spaces and newlines its 442

but he didnt include the golfed version, only the commented version in his ans

so should i include the golfed version in my edit

makes it clearer to readers that this is actually 442 bytes not the orignial one(1100 bytes)

CMQ: What's the highest number of quotes you've nested while writing code?

I got four levels deep once

It was a string containing HTML which had an attribute containing JS code that contained a string containing HTML with an attribute

2-3 layers I think

2 on a frequent basis, 3 very rarely

ginger's ukraine challenge got him 50 upvotes lmao

even though i actually planned to post it a few weeks ago but discarded the idea due to the fact that it seemed to easy and idk how to do picture challenges

lol wtf why can i only see half of emanresu's pfp???

wait what its rendering correctly in the actual chat though

so confused rn

@emanresuA wdym by export? i can save the graph, does that count?

Export it to some sort of file?

@emanresuA any of these work? wiki.geogebra.org/en/Export_Graphics_Dialog

Can you recover the graph itself from any of this?

@emanresuA wdym by recover

Fun fact: I have a pair of Bonds socks (standard height, everyday out and about stuff - not the rust femboy kind you see Linux users wearing) that are red on the bottom. I call them my redwolf socks now because I can't help but think of redwolf because of their colour

@AidenChow Get the original graph back from that exported file

@emanresuA newpfpamogus?!

Can't believe I'm hearing people discussing wordle irl

Glad I solved it before overhearing their conversation

Like I understand online discussion, but actual physical discussion just seems odd

@lyxal ikr

is this ready? codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2140/…

@emanresuA uhhhh idk, probably not, becuz they are essentially image files

@DialFrost I think so

the only time i heard wordle discussion irl was at a linguistics club meeting where someone decided to tell us about semantle

y'all need to play semantle

sounds interesting

what

> FOOR

Politicians minimax their charisma and intelligence.

> scenario's

> IT'S NOT FUNNY ANYMORE

@UnrelatedString am on guess 82 and have made no real progress since 25

that's the semantle experience

i've only gotten one so far and i think 82 is actually how many tries it took me with some serious luck

once i hit top 1000 some of the stuff i was landing in it seemed barely related to the rest and when i looked at the full list after solving it some of it was even further out of left field

if the nearest word today is only 59.96 similar... oh boy

okay i hit 772 on guess 20

@UnrelatedString plane

I guessed that after helicopter

yes

if it helps, "astronomy" is ~#220

and aerodynamics isn't on the lsit

would prefer if you refrained from further spoilers but if we're talking about that i find it really funny that airliner isn't in the top 1000

Okay. I just got something in the 900s so I'll stop.

got there from a sequence of things that things can be on, starting from "table"

nice

ooh i'm in the 900s too

+lol

this is hard

:\

extemely

oh i just shot up to 900 on my next guess lel

it do be like that

oshit i got it

nice

I am

feeling somewhat bamboozled

yo what nice

lol

yeah it's always a bit wild

what lol: "Unusual word found! This word is not in the list of "normal" words that we use for the top-1000 list, but it is still similar! (Is it maybe capitalized?)"

what does that even mean

ahahaha

looking at similar words

no wonder I couldn't get any better

Is your 900's md5 698777432d4b6352e008a1d267329aa1

lol

@emanresuA damn yeah it is

i got a few 800s too

and a ???? one lol

my 900 is 933

lol

Same

@UnrelatedString me tooo

we all got the same one

makes sense

highest I got was 990

before the word

nice

995 WOW

0_0

oh shit i just got 976

@UnrelatedString NICE

idk what is related with the #995 word i guessed lel

i also just got a ????

and another

995

@UnrelatedString ME TOO

Woah

@AidenChow yeah it's really fucking hard to imagine where to go from there

we got the same word

idk what to do after

I thought it might be zeppelin

But nope

@UnrelatedString yeah saaaaame

maybe it's something to do with a fixed turn of phrase

I can hint to 990 if there's no objection

I don't expect it's a giveaway

given how long it took me from there

lmao

@att yeah u could, we already got #995 lol

idk where to go from there tho

Everything I have is flight related

@emanresuA ye, sounds about right

me too

what's closely related to flying (lingusitically, at least)?

Thanks :), got the 990

@att idk what linguistically means :\

word2vec is based entirely on distribution

I got two ????

so close words are words that occur in very similar circumstances

@emanresuA i have like 4 of those :P

I think ???s are more unusual words

????s are words that would clog up the top 1000 if they were there but are in the word2vec dictionary

@att ye sure, i guessed rocketship and it was like ????

...930 is quite interesting

tf, i was not expecting #932 to work

i have like 4 of them over 900

-_-

yep

930 was a pretty big surprise

yeah

idk what 930 is, but i got 932 lmao

160 is also something lmao

i didnt get 160 but i got 161, its pretty interesting

i got 8 over 900 now wtfffff

whoa

9 now

bruh

how do u do spoilers in chat?

bro 10

10 over 900 im getting pissed

I ended up with 11 900s + a ??? in that range before I got it

@AidenChow [spoiler](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVNaapUdlkM&start=9 "spoiler text")

and you have ~17 hours to do today's no rush :)

im very tempted to go on google rn to search up related words

oh yeah maybe it's something to do with the connection between specifically 995 and 930

what is 930, idek it

spoiler

ooh

i hadn't considered

my closest is still 995 tho