The Nineteenth Byte

Seggan

00:11

Whatcha think of resurrecting this?

Relevant challenge

allxy

Discussed that a while ago

But there's not enough active users really

hyper-neutrino

beat you to it :P

Aiden Chow

lmao yep

deleted my comment when i saw the post get deleted :P

hyper-neutrino

@emanresuA done, although y'all probably could've just edited it without me

it was only one post lol

lyxal

Java web development out of context

Radvylf Programs

00:42

Wow I just scammed myself into doing an extra math problem

I flipped over the page of homework, and did the next problem I saw, but turns out it was actually the back of the oage and the problem I did was just an in-class example problem from the day before

lyxal

good job

Aiden Chow

CMC: Given a positive integer n and a digit k, determine if it is possible to represent n as a sum of positive integers that all include the digit k at least once.

i got this problem from somewhere on the internet but i forgot where

lyxal

What's the time? It's yes o'clock:

I found that buried within Vyxal chat

quality conversation content

Unrelated String

is that ɕ on the bottom

lyxal

no, it should be a normal 6

but it can be if you want

Unrelated String

00:57

also did someone actually teach you how to handwrite theta or did you just figure it out on your own
because i didn't start doing it that way until like a month ago when i saw the cursive version lmao

lyxal

the latter

Unrelated String

nice

lyxal

it's funny because people thought my 0s which I write with a line through were thetas

Unrelated String

lol

i'm not a 0 slasher but nice to know i'm not alone in serify 1 gang

lyxal

Do you dash your 7s?

Unrelated String

00:59

always

lyxal

excellent

7s are to be dashed

and you can't convince me otherwise

Unrelated String

otherwise they just look like shitty 1s

lyxal

Do you curve your 2s at the bottom?

Seggan

no

Unrelated String

sometimes

my 2s and 3s are wildly inconsistent

Radvylf Programs

01:00

I don't dash my 7s because I either do a straight line for 1, or the full fancy serify 1

Seggan

i hate 9 tho, it always ends up like 4

lyxal

And finally, ampersands: proper form or that weird vertical and a loop around thing?

Radvylf Programs

I draw them properly but sometimes backwards by accident

Unrelated String

i have never heard of the vertical with a loop around version

lyxal

@UnrelatedString it's the one on the right

Unrelated String

01:01

i usually do proper but sometimes do the sort of capital version if i cba

Seggan

i never draw ampersands

Unrelated String

i wouldn't even recognize the thing on the right as an ampersand

lyxal

I had to write something on a whiteboard in class once, and some kids were impressed that I managed to "whip out a fancy ampersand"

Unrelated String

lol

lyxal

also, for some reason I draw my r's with a straight line at the top instead of a curve

Unrelated String

01:03

🙲 is what i use when i can't remember which way & goes and i've definitely seen other people use 🙲 but never anything else

wacky

lyxal

that's me when lowercase r

Unrelated String

my rs are usually a single arcing stroke

user

Ew, one of those people

@UnrelatedString No

Unrelated String

huh

user

Don't quote me on that tho :P

As long as it isn't public, it can be in a file with a different name

Unrelated String

01:24

oh that makes sense

lyxal

01:42

this threw me off for a moment

because I was like "hey wait ctx doesn't have a getRealPath method, and that's not even how you create a Context object"

and then I realised this is Java, not Vyxal

allxy

Nice lol

lyxal

and now seeing that makes me feel like I miss working on Vyxal even though I'm still contributing to it

thank you uni for fricking with me very cool

allxy

~~write Vyxal in java~~ wait that exists

hyper-neutrino

speaking of working on vyxal

i said i'd make a discord bot and then never did shit didn't I

user

It's fine, Discord isn't super active anyway

allxy

01:48

^

lyxal

^

besides, I set up webhooks for the github stuff

allxy

And the bot's only really useful for demoing

hyper-neutrino

true

lyxal

what'd be cool is integrating the short dictionary into the optimal dictionary compression function

hyper-neutrino

and it's not like we need mod bots so

oh dictionary compression

i don't remember how to do that anymore but i should be able to figure it out pretty easily it was just a trivial dp IIRC

lyxal

01:51

#474 for reference

allxy

I'm feeling slightly guilty about adding a bunch of feature requests and never coding them

lyxal

don't

they were pretty easy to do

especially with copilot

allxy

Okay.

I have the code for one on my end but it was being cursed and I'll get round to fixing/adding it at some point I guess

hyper-neutrino

anyway i unfortunately wasn't here to say i'd start working on anything anyway lol

kinda busy atm

allxy

uni?

hyper-neutrino

01:54

uni + other discord stuff

allxy

And particle stuff?

hyper-neutrino

yes, being a particle is a time consuming activity

Radvylf Programs

Since I live in Texas I hear a lot of cringe country music and today I think I heard the cringest song yet

The title is enough to make it pretty clear why..."If the South woulda won"

But if you think it stops at casual racism, you'd of course be wrong:

> I'd have every girl child sent to Georgia to learn to smile

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wh

Radvylf Programs

We gotta throw some blatant sexism in too

Unrelated String

02:02

what the fuck

allxy

^

Radvylf Programs

> The day Elvis passed away would be our national holiday
...
The day young Skynyrd died, we'd show our southern pride
...
When Patsy Cline passed away, that would be our national holiday

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Q: Sort a list and write some English!

Your boss managed to read the secret hidden message. He didn't end up firing you, though, he just made you a secretary and forbade you from writing code. But you're a programmer. You need to write code. You must code. Therefore, your code needs to look as similar to English as possible, make se...

Unrelated String

maybe they'd just have one executed when the other dies naturally

Radvylf Programs

Well, there is precedent in the song for gruesome executions

> And we wouldn't have no killers getting off free
If they were proven guilty, then they would swing quickly

allxy

02:06

Use /kill, it's much more humane

Hello, World!

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A: "Hello, World!"

Coq, 30 bytes Eval compute in"Hello world!". TRYITONLINE But you have to first define what string is using this bit of code: Require Import Coq.Strings.String. Declare Scope string_scope. Delimit Scope string_scope with string. Bind Scope string_scope with string. Local Open Scope string_scope....

user

@RadvylfPrograms and how are they going to prove that lol

allxy

with casual racism, of course

user

Not being 100% sure if someone’s guilty is a big reason why death penalties are a bad idea

Radvylf Programs

Oh it also seems to imply the Confederacy would invade Kentucky if the song's author were president

lyxal

02:15

@user you never know if some piece of evidence would be found right at the last moment that would exonerate the person

Radvylf Programs

Either that or the author just doesn't know which states were and weren't in the Confederacy which is equally likely

(Or a third option, since Kentucky was a slave state in the Union, he's implying that Kentucky voluntarily joined the Confederacy for that reason and thus that under his control slavery would still exist)

Radvylf Programs

02:28

Okay...this is so cool. I just solved an integral by using integration by parts to get something like f(x) - \int{k*g(x)}, where \int{g(x)} was the original integral. So I did \int{g(x)} = f(x) - k * \int{g(x)}, which I could solve to find \int{g(x)} in terms of f(x)

Keeping it vague because I know if I share what g(x) was y'all'll find a way easier way to do it and act all snooty :p

(It was (ln x)^4 / x)

Probably could've used a u-substitution, actually

user

@RadvylfPrograms yes, that easier way is called wolfram :p

hyper-neutrino

i think u=ln x would be easier

esp cuz then du = 1/x dx

Radvylf Programs

Yeah I think it would too but this reminds me of recursion and so it is good :p

hyper-neutrino

fair :P

wait yeah u=ln x gives you int (ln x)^4/x dx = int u^4 du which is trivial kek

user

My math teachers called that swingy-swingy

Radvylf Programs

02:33

Any time you can turn something into basic algebra by turning random groups of symbols into variables, it's wizardry

And I like being a wizard from time to time

hyper-neutrino

you're a wizard, redwolf

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lyxal

@user you use wolfram for your math stuff. I use vyxal for my math stuff. We are not the same.

Radvylf Programs

You can't take the integral of e^{4x}*sin(x) using integration by parts, can you?

Oooh wait I think I get to be a wizard again!

Bubbler

@RadvylfPrograms do it twice and rearrange the equation I guess?

Radvylf Programs

Yep

emanresu A

02:53

@RadvylfPrograms That's an actual integration tactic :P

Try integrating sec^3(x)

Radvylf Programs

Stop tryna nerd snipe me, I'm doing homework :p

Yuck, the number 17 just randomly showed up in a calculus problem

I was absolutely sure I got it wrong until I put it in Desmos

emanresu A

I've had e^pi as the answer to a calculus problem

lyxal

@RadvylfPrograms What's wrong with 17? Are you being 17ist?

emanresu A

You'll be 17 soon, get used to it

Radvylf Programs

Well, when 17 randomly shows up in a problem where the only other constants are e, 4, and pi, you get suspicious

emanresu A

02:59

4^2 + 1

Radvylf Programs

4*4+4/4

Yuck, I gotta do integration by parts four times for this next problem

lyxal

@RadvylfPrograms take the i from pi, capitalise it and put it in a font where it looks like it could be an un-serified 1. Then, take the 4 and e, add them together and get the ceiling of that number. Finally concatenate that to your I which is now a 1 and you have 17

emanresu A

Maths

emanresu A

03:35

I'm trying to compile 05AB1E to javascript right now

DialFrost

congrats to anttip for 6k rep

emanresu A

04:02

If I had a nickel for every time I failed to compile something, I'd be rich.

Radvylf Programs

04:27

I love Dr. Seuss's Midnight Paintings so much

There's just this odd sense of surrealism stemming from his art style and the darkness of the colors and the tone

They're just slightly unsettling too, they give me the same sort of mild dread There's a Wocket in my Pocket used to, but in a more mature and dark manner

DialFrost

codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2140/… is this ok? (not posting yet but i js want feedback thx)

emanresu A

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DialFrost

05:19

um is this contradictory in the sandbox decsription

"replace the post here with a link to the challenge and delete the sandbox post."

Bubbler

How is it contradictory?

Radvylf Programs

People over 10k rep can see deleted posts

It's not contradictory, because it reduces clutter for us

Bubbler

though it's rather common these days to just edit the post and not delete it

Radvylf Programs

Usually Iedit mine then delete them a few days later

Newly Featured Posts

06:11

4

Q: NxM List Combination Closest to Target

Given a list of N lists, each containing M positive integers, and a separate list of M positive integers (target values), return a list of N scalars (integers with a value of 0 or more) that correspond to each list in the lists of lists, such that when each value in a list is multiplied by it's s...

matrix fastest-algorithm linear-algebra algorithm

DialFrost

@RadvylfPrograms ah ic what you mean now @RadvylfPrograms thx for the info

DialFrost

06:29

should a "a few days later" be added the end of the setence to make it clearer?

New Posts

06:42

0

Q: Gray code on N symbols

A Gray code is a permutation on binary numbers where incrementing or decrementing a number only ever causes a single bit to change. For example, a Gray code for the binary numbers up to 7 (so, with 3 bits) are: 000 001 011 010 110 111 101 100 You can see that only one bit is different between ea...

code-golf coding-theory

DialFrost

@pxeger issit a must to post the sandbox post in the comments?

as i see some ppl do that

Bubbler

It isn't, but it may help you avoid seeing comments like "please use the sandbox" without knowing it already went through the sandbox

lyxal

Why I've peed in every single pool I've ever been in

►

I found caird guys

pxeger

07:32

@DialFrost no, I just do it because it helps link things together instead of making people search, but it's not necessary

emanresu A

@pxeger Can we take a string of n distinct symbols?

pxeger

07:54

@emanresuA you mean instead of taking an integer N as an input? I suppose that's fine

emanresu A

08:47

20

Q: Is it true that it's not illegal for a parent to sell their 13-year-old child to a drug dealer?

My question is prompted by an episode of the TV show Law & Order, specifically the 6th-season episode titled "Slave". In the episode, a couple of the lawyers state as fact that it is not illegal for a parent to sell their child. That seems clearly false, but I'm skeptical that the writers would w...

new-york-state children law-in-fiction slavery human-trafficking

ophact

Oh yeah, I saw that post a few hours ago

emanresu A

09:14

o/

ophact

o/

Unrelated String

o/

ATaco

o/

PyGamer0

o/

\o

SegFaultPlus4

o/

\o/

/o\

@RadvylfPrograms i have "539"[0] starred messages

SegFaultPlus4

10:08

Wordle 263 6/6

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SegFaultPlus4

10:47

does anyone know of a way to get every 9 letter word with no repeating letters

also what happens if i ping everyone in one message

PyGamer0

@SegFaultPlus4 you get kicked :P

SegFaultPlus4

11:10

@PyGamer0 for how long

PyGamer0

idk

SegFaultPlus4

is it permanent

SegFaultPlus4

11:25

bc if not, i might just do it for the lolz

lyxal

I don't reccomend you do that

even though a kick isn't permanent, I suggest you don't

While some people may appreciate the humour in an @everyone ping, most people wouldn't

SegFaultPlus4

ok

i was grinding jetpunk and got the math master badge in 4 mins

eZ

lyxal

"The function is defined, has type annotations and a docstring"

"oh but it isn't actually defined"

which is it vs code?

SegFaultPlus4

11:40

@lyxal how

lyxal

honestly idfk

SegFaultPlus4

also i can't see the image, can there be a text version

lyxal

(function) non_vectorising_equals: (lhs: Any, rhs: Any, ctx: Any) -> int
Element ⁼ (num, num) -> a == b (str, str) -> a == b (lst, lst) -> a == b
"non_vectorising_equals" is not defined Pylance(reportUndefinedVariable)

as you can see, it recognises the type annotations of non_vectorising_equals, as well as the docstring

but it's complaining that it doesn't exist

SegFaultPlus4

@lyxal if it knows the type, surely that implies existence

lyxal

yes

the function is defined

SegFaultPlus4

11:49

then why is it complaining

lyxal

as I said, I don't know

I can only assume Pylance forgot it was defined for a second

SegFaultPlus4

@lyxal run it again (also message 60606600)

let me make message 60606606

lyxal

@SegFaultPlus4 I can't, it was a pop-up error

@SegFaultPlus4 ah sorry about that

SegFaultPlus4

@lyxal then close the pop-up (also message 60606606)

lyxal

It's not a pop-up as such, but a tool-tip

it's gone now

SegFaultPlus4

11:52

@lyxal ok, so run it again

lyxal

It's not that I was running it

the code editor gave a tooltip floating error

SegFaultPlus4

but you can still run it

right

lyxal

no

it was a one-off error

Ginger Industries

⁌-⁍

Ginger Industries

12:27

here's a cat photo to start your day:

user

@lyxal issue with caching maybe ?

Caching is a programmer s best enemy

lyxal

@GingerIndustries is night

Almost end of day

Ginger Industries

@lyxal ¯\_(ಠ_ಠ)_/¯

@lyxal I fixed your GitHub PFP for you

lyxal

13:01

It's good the way it is

Ginger Industries

nah

lyxal

Yes

Also,

Wordle 264 3/6

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Ginger Industries

I find it just a tad creepy that GitHub allows you to choose a Successor who gets your profile data in the event of your death

ophact

I love the name "Successor", it sounds like a character in a horror movie

Ginger Industries

@ophact It sounds like ~~a character in~~ a horror movie

lyxal

13:13

They also have a deceased user policy

mathcat

@lyxal it looks very creepy

lyxal

@mathcat which one? Current or proposed?

ophact

GitHub is the first online service I've seen that has a policy for dealing with the dead.

Ginger Industries

@ophact why do they have a policy against child labor

lyxal

@ophact Doesn't google have one?

ophact

13:14

do they?

@GingerIndustries hmm

Ginger Industries

@ophact and bribery

ophact

look at this part of their Child Labor statement:

> takes seriously its responsibility to ensure that neither modern slavery nor child labor takes place in its supply chain or in any part of its business.

will there be child labor on GitHub?

Ginger Industries

THEY'RE A CODE-HOSTING SITE

WHAT THE RGKSP

ophact

But pushing to GitHub and getting it right on the first try is labor in itself

mathcat

@lyxal both

ophact

13:15

so there is child labor

Ginger Industries

WHY DOES A CODE-HOSTING SITE NEED A POLICY AGAINST CHILD LABOR?!

mathcat

but I like the current one

Ginger Industries

> GitHub does not conduct manufacturing or produce hardware

well that's a relief, hate to have GitHub become like Valve

ophact

@GingerIndustries Folks being forced by the president to push unfinished code to GitHub?

Ginger Industries

they make a bunch of questionable hardware and then make one good thing

lyxal

13:17

@GingerIndustries that means they don't engage in child labor. They're promising to be good people

That doesn't mean you can't use child labor for your projects

Ginger Industries

back up

ophact

"We sell apples. We would like to denounce the forced production of oranges."

Ginger Industries

exactly

ophact

@GingerIndustries WHY ARE YOU WRITING IN ALL CAPS?!

Ginger Industries

@ophact EMPHASIS

mathcat

13:18

AND IT LOOKS COOL

ophact

I GUESS SO

lyxal

@GingerIndustries I'm not in a car how tf I gonna reverse my bed? Do I just change the bed gear to fricking reverse or something?

ophact

Wait you are sitting on your bed typing?

Ginger Industries

why is there a website, run by GitHub themselves, for Octocat fanart

5

lyxal

:60607174 github stickers (or something like that) you get for free if you're a student

@ophact lying in, and yes

It's 12:19am after all

mathcat

13:20

wth

it's :20 here

you can't be in UTC 10:01+

Ginger Industries

I can't tell what time it is because the sky has been solid pink for 2 days

lyxal

@mathcat is that 0:20?

As in, 20 minutes past midnight?

mathcat

no

2:21

PM

lyxal

Ah

Imagine it being afternoon and a reasonable time

Ah frick I have uni today

Which means early up time

Which means I gots to go

o/, nerds

ophact

o/

mathcat

13:23

o/

Ginger Industries

o/

PyGamer0

o/

Ginger Industries

14:07

CMQ: Should I bundle a REPL with Etch or make it seperate?

I think seperate

ophact

Yes please "seperate"

When is Etch available?

Ginger Industries

soonish

ophact

and how soon is that?

Ginger Industries

soonish

mathcat

in Noxan (Golfing language), 1 min ago, by mathcat

:60607593 are you bot?

you just said the same thing again

which means you are sus

ophact

14:15

@GingerIndustries How many days?

Ginger Industries

idk

ophact

What features are there?

Ginger Industries

send help

I accidentally broke poetry by uninstalling requests and now I can't use poetry to reinstall requests

ophact

What does send help do in Etch?

mathcat

sends help, ofc

emergency use only

Ginger Industries

14:17

pip go brr

PyGamer0

@GingerIndustries which one? DLosc's or Python's?

SegFaultPlus4

@PyGamer0 what's a pip

an APL pip, maybe

ophact

@SegFaultPlus4 Python Installer of packages

or package instlaler for python

or something else

idk

Radvylf Programs

@GingerIndustries Why not do it like Node, Python, Ruby, and Haskell do

etch launches a REPL, etch xyz.etch runs a file

SegFaultPlus4

@GingerIndustries BIESO*P O£" BBBBBBB&M)WF V"

why

PyGamer0

14:27

@RadvylfPrograms and flax too :P

fun fact: flax room has no stars

this means that flax is a serious golfing language :P

SegFaultPlus4

@PyGamer0 what's a flax

mathcat

a tacit golfing lang

Radvylf Programs

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mathcat

bet mine's worse

PyGamer0

@SegFaultPlus4 my ~~jelly clone~~ totally unique golflang

actually its kinda better (or worse) than jelly

@SegFaultPlus4 link to room: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/132561/flax

ophact

14:41

@PyGamer0 I dare you to star something

2

PyGamer0

there is nothing worth to be starred

ophact

"nice docs"

PyGamer0

...

no

Radvylf Programs

@GingerIndustries I wonder if there's octocat rule34

PyGamer0

@RadvylfPrograms i read that as "octocat 69" ooof

Radvylf Programs

14:44

That would be a subtype of octocat rule34 I suppose

SegFaultPlus4

@ophact ninja'd

PyGamer0

15:16

ophact

Yes, and what's interesting about it?

PyGamer0

^ managed to get 3 people in the flax room lol

ophact

I only dropped in to see inside

PyGamer0

but still

Radvylf Programs

15:40

> Washing machine
Not to be confused with Dishwasher.

mathcat

wait wat

oh

DLosc

> Dishwasher
Not to be confused with dish washing machine

mathcat

no I am confused

@DLosc aren't they the same thing

DLosc

@mathcat Dishwasher

mathcat

-.-

DLosc

15:45

@emanresuA I can't believe the "I don't know" answer still has more votes than the "it's absolutely illegal" answer >_<

Ginger Industries

@RadvylfPrograms NO

why would you SAY that

mathcat

I don't understand

Radvylf Programs

> Rule 34 is an Internet maxim which asserts that Internet pornography exists concerning every conceivable topic. The concept is commonly depicted as fan art of normally non-erotic subjects engaging in sexual behavior.

mathcat

aha

now I understand

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0

Q: The Nineteenth Bakery

Yes, this is very similar to this question You are in a strange city, looking for the fabled Nineteenth Bakery, where it is said they sell the most delicious deleted posts. The order of shops here is strange. Each street has a number of shops on it, but they are not numbered in order. Instead, ...

code-golf array

Neil

16:45

@GingerIndustries Firefox is following the Node spec in that import * as THREE from 'three' means that three is an installed module. What I can't determine is which file you think you're actually trying to import there.

Seggan

@NewPosts argh no comment in the sandbox but a flurry of problems once posted. There is something wrong with the sandbox system.

Unrelated String

@GingerIndustries check the faq; it's actually all stuff github employees have made and may or may not use at some point

still fucking wacky though

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