The Nineteenth Byte

Radvylf Programs

16:00

Nope, I've had a setInterval every few milliseconds running for months and my server uptime's always 0.00

Comparing a date takes like, a fraction of a microsecond I think

About to submit an OEIS sequence

mathcat

what?

A new sequence?

Radvylf Programs

Yep

oeis.org/draft/A351913

Included some mildly golfed JS too

Wezl - y izl

has anybody else bookmarked about:blank ?D

mathcat

nice

Radvylf Programs

@Wezl-yizl I have it set as my home button in chrome

mathcat

16:04

When I invent a new sequence, I'll post Vyxal code

Radvylf Programs

That's...likely a bad idea

The whole point of the OEIS is to be a scientific reference for integer sequences and Vyxal is far from scientific

Not only would a version change probably break it, it's useless to 99.999% of the population

JS is pushing it enough already

Ginger Industries

@RadvylfPrograms QOTD:

> Vyxal is far from scientific

Radvylf Programs

Vyxal is a golfing language. It's goal is to do things compactly. Readability thus comes second, and for most people it's going to look like when you open a zip file in notepad. Not only that, it's not going to be expected to be present on anyone's computers, necessitating them hunting down the online interpreter. Additionally, Vyxal seems to really like breaking changes, so the online interpreter likely won't even help a year from now.

user

@Wezl-yizl :thonk:

it’s not even good js

@RadvylfPrograms mathcat was almost certainly joking

Radvylf Programs

No, he was mathcat, not JoKing

@user yeah yeah

user

16:11

AaÄàaahhhh

Ginger Industries

If your golflang doesn't look like when you open a zip file in notepad you aren't doing it right

Radvylf Programs

An upcoming proof-of-concept golfing language I'm working on will make it even worse

user

Hmm, i wonder if you can make a zip file so it almost looks like java when opened. Probably possible

Radvylf Programs

I doubt it

You could make parts of it look like Java, but I'm sure there's binary stuff like magic numbers that you can't really change

user

Why

@RadvylfPrograms yeah, i know you can’t mqk the entire thing looks like java, nut almost is possible

Radvylf Programs

16:14

Have your fingers been replaced with extra noses

user

No

DLosc

@GingerIndustries [cries in ASCII-only golflangs]

user

I am typing one handed

Radvylf Programs

All the guys in my history class are arguing about who the hottest spiderman actor is

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Reveal all clues of Black Box Black Box is a board game, Your task is to reveal all clues. I/O Input The atoms can be any 1-char that is not newline (Used for separator) Like this. #.... ...#. ..#.. ..... ....# Output When the code reveals all clues (See Below) the output of The given input abov...

user

16:15

@DLosc didn’t ascii only make a golflang with unicode :p

DLosc

@user LOL

user

@RadvylfPrograms andrew for sure

Spiderman is a trash hero tho

DLosc

@user True (though if you're talking about Charcoal, that started as my idea so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

user

Oh. Cool

Frocking phone

DLosc

Oct 26, 2017 at 0:53, by caird coinheringaahing

Can someone post a disapproval face? I have something to disapprove of

user

16:18

Stupidest origin story and power

Spiders are disgusting things

Someone needs to stamp on all the spidermen

DLosc

Ah, I see, you have arachnid prejudice. Fair enough :P

user

Also, spiders don’t shoot webs out of their hands, they shoot them out of, uh…

DLosc

"Spinnerets" is the word you're looking for ;)

user

@DLosc i mean i hate bats too but i don’t hate the idea of batman even though i hate the movies and bruce wayne

And i don’t hate ants but i think ant man is stupid

hyper-neutrino

is there an inverse of ?? so instead of a ?? b giving b if a is undefined, a something b gives b if a isn't undefined and undefined otherwise

user

16:21

&&?

Wheat Wizard

What language is this?

user

Js

Ginger Industries

@hyper-neutrino ¿¿

hyper-neutrino

@WheatWizard JS, sorry

DLosc

@user That'll also return b if a is any falsey value, won't it?

user

16:22

Ahh

Radvylf Programs

@hyper-neutrino No

Wheat Wizard

In other languages this is a map.

DLosc

How about a === undefined ? a : b

user

I suppose a === undefined ? a : b as a naive solution then

Damnit ninjad

mathcat

@RadvylfPrograms exactly

Radvylf Programs

16:23

Use == for compatiblity with ??

mathcat

I am not JoKing

Radvylf Programs

== undefined also matches null, as does ??

DLosc

I didn't know JS had ??. That's pretty cool

Radvylf Programs

it's new, along with .? and friends

Wheat Wizard

That's nice.

user

16:24

@WheatWizard wouldn’t that require a.map(_ -> b) or smth? There’s no operator for it

Wheat Wizard

Hopefully this will mean that JS will completely implode under it's own weight soon.

@user That's why it's a map. In Haskell the specific operator is (<$).

user

Ah cool

hyper-neutrino

wait why did i think 0 would == undefined or smth silly like that lol

Radvylf Programs

The people who sit behind me in CS are cringe

user

@WheatWizard or people will simply not use newer versions of js and it will remain forever like java

Radvylf Programs

16:26

"I add a line of SQL and then it breaks my JSON" is something I just heard one guy say

user

It could be sensible in context

Wheat Wizard

I had SQL breaking my JSON all day today. It was not pleasant.

user

Of are you complaining about using sql

Wheat Wizard

I forgot to capitalize a letter.

user

Oof

Radvylf Programs

16:27

Isn't SQL case insensitive?

user

Isn’t sql case insensitive? Gah ninjd

Wheat Wizard

The JSON isn't.

It was also postgreSQL 13 before they added all the nice JSON operations.

Radvylf Programs

Gross, SQL supports JSON stuff?

Wheat Wizard

Unfortunately.

We have something which should really be it's own table which is just a massive blob of json.

Radvylf Programs

Letting SQL get anywhere near nice pretty JSON is like vomiting in a pool of jello

Wheat Wizard

16:29

I'm not so sure about that. I wouldn't say JSON is all that great either.

DLosc

@RadvylfPrograms ASCII comic incoming

Hi, we're new!
--------------
         \
          \
 ?.  ??=  ??      &&  ||  ?

Radvylf Programs

Oh wait it's ?.

I always get the order mixed up

DLosc

Hi, we're new!
--------------     No, I am new
        \          ------------
         \           /
          \         /
 ?.  ??=  ??      new

Radvylf Programs

.: would be a cool looking operator

Maybe for range or something

mathcat

This is weirdly hard

user

16:37

@RadvylfPrograms what’s wrong with vomiting in a pool of vomit?

I just checked my inbox and had like 70 new emails because some idiot sent the email “hey guys” to the entire school somehow and then some other idiots replied all with “bruh what is this stfu”

Radvylf Programs

lol

user

Like, i get you’re mad about being added to a random email chain, so sm I, but could you not make it even longer?

mathcat

@user I could do that too :P

user

Please don’t

Radvylf Programs

I get emails from time to time because I discovered google groups show up almost identically to people in gmail, so cheezit.boi69 appears to be a student in the directory, and it forwards to my email

user

16:41

Hmm

Radvylf Programs

As well as all four non-Charlie golden ticket winners

mathcat

@user No, I mean, our teacher made a class group (and forgot to add admin rules and stuff) and everybody theoretically could send emails to the entire class

user

@mathcat oic

Email is annoying

mathcat

Be careful, you're sharing personal info. Now I know your battery is at 52%.

Radvylf Programs

If you knew the rate at which it was discharging too, that would be bad

mathcat

16:47

Yes, dreadful. I could calculate how much battery it would have in 2 hours

Radvylf Programs

Nuh uh, because of the heisenberg uncertainty theorem you would gain control of user's battery

Since you know its charge position and momentum

user

Update: it’s not just my high school, it may be a random selection of people across the county

mathcat

And if I control user's battery, I could control user's phone.

Which means I could control user

user

Which makes sense because our email addresses are just 6-7 digit numbers

Radvylf Programs

Yep. If you turn off the power at just the right instants, you could manipulate the bit values.

mathcat

16:51

If uh the heisenberg uncertainty theorem gets proved.

user

@mathcat but…but..I thought i was the one who used stuff. You can’t use me

Radvylf Programs

And then once you control user's phone, you slowly use it to feed them increasingly polarized information until they share your viewpoints exactly

user

@RadvylfPrograms dang you’re almost a real programmer

pxeger

@user why is Settings on your dock? Do you open Settings more often than you open Safari?

user

Now you just need to control butterflies

Radvylf Programs

16:51

At which point you make sure they gain viewpoints at the same rate as you, and due to the heisenberg uncertainty theorem you gain control of user

mathcat

Yes!

user

@pxeger i open it every night to turn wifi off, because turning it off in control panel turns it on the next day

Radvylf Programs

Dec 9, 2021 at 21:43, by Redwolf Programs

Ugh add that xkcd to my list of overused and unfunny jokes

Our current list is:

pxeger

Why do you turn wifi off every night?

user

EMACS GOOD VIM BAD

Radvylf Programs

16:53

Jokes that are no longer funny:
1. Integer overflow
2. Mathematica having a built-in for everything
3. Radom numbers being 4
4. Emacs/vim/butterflies

mathcat

Now we just need the discharging rate.

user

@pxeger idk i thought it drained battery when wifi on so i turn it off after i use it

Radvylf Programs

...

pxeger

just plug your phone in??

user

@RadvylfPrograms add a few more and 0 jokes will be funny

Radvylf Programs

16:53

@pxeger That's bad for the battery

mathcat

@user o.0

user

@pxeger too lazy

Radvylf Programs

@user I think you're thinking of bluetooth

user

@RadvylfPrograms only if you leave it in at night right

@RadvylfPrograms ohhhh

mathcat

so ... just for science, how much battery did it lose after 2 minutes

pxeger

16:54

both wifi and bluetooth will drain the battery more if you leave them on than if you leave them off

user

Oh

pxeger

but if you plug the phone in it won't matter

Radvylf Programs

Well if you turn wifi off then you're using cellular stuff

user

Well I’ll just continue doing what I’m doing

Radvylf Programs

Wifi uses a negligible amount of power

user

16:55

@pxeger i dont have much time too

Radvylf Programs

Bluetooth is more noticeable

Plugging it in all night is bad for the battery

pxeger

I imagine it depends on the phone

user

@RadvylfPrograms i keep cellular off almost always /sheug

Radvylf Programs

But leaving wifi on shouldn't matter

@user Why not just have a laptop then lol

user

I do have a laptop?

pxeger

16:56

a laptop doesn't fit in your pocket

Radvylf Programs

What's the point of a phone if you don't use the cellular hotspot all the time

user

I don’t see how a laptop would help

@RadvylfPrograms calling people when i need to, accessing personal stuff that i can’t on school Chromebooks

Radvylf Programs

Oh right forgot social interaction exists

2

nvm

user

And as pxeger said, can’t carry laptop hard

Radvylf Programs

Even a heavy laptop is like 3 pounds though lol

balance it on your head if your hands are full

user

16:57

@RadvylfPrograms nah more like “ mom halp everyone is talking to each other can you come get me i don’t want to stay at this meeting “

@RadvylfPrograms laptop big

And expensive

I don’t trust myself lol

Radvylf Programs

Compared to a phone?

user

Yes

Radvylf Programs

pfft

user

Phone 399, laptop 700-800

Radvylf Programs

I got a flagship chromebook for $500, and a good one is like $350

user

16:59

Kinda hard to run intellij on Chromebooks

Radvylf Programs

Not really

I run firefox on mine from time to time ffs

user

Although i do mainly use laptop for browser these days

@RadvylfPrograms intellij eats ram like…whatever a ram’s natural predator is

Android studio is worse

Radvylf Programs

> 7.63 GB available

user

And tgere are a couple windows only appa i need sig

Lunch is end 0/

Radvylf Programs

Appa you need sig?!

-<:_. ASCII art of a binary tree

And also my new favorite emoticon

"Concerned cyborg with night vision scope"

Wezl - y izl

17:10

small mouth to the left, long tear, party hat

"why are you ruining my party"

Ginger Industries

-<:(

Radvylf Programs

@GingerIndustries WWI German soldier

Ginger Industries

PCB design is like solving a puzzle except you have to wait a week to check if you did it right and if you didn't it sets you back $5

DLosc

17:39

CMP: For a syntax highlighter with a light background, what are good colors for each of the following: keywords, builtin functions, names, operators, numeric literals, string literals, comments?

Radvylf Programs

Purple, dark blue, light blue, black/gray, green, darker green, gray

Basing it off my color scheme:

(window would be a dark blue if CM let me change it)

pxeger

@DLosc purple, blue, red, black, orange, green, grey

Radvylf Programs

Red for variable names also looks good yeah

mathcat

18:15

@DLosc Looking at my light theme it's

Bgil Midol

@DLosc yellow, purple, light blue, orange, red, green, brown

mathcat

pinkish-red, blue, black, pinkish red, light purple, red, grey

Bgil Midol

according to my color scheme, orange-yellow, purple, white, white, blue, green, brown with dark background

Radvylf Programs

For a light theme?

Oh dark theme

DLosc's looking for a light theme

Yeah orange-yellow probably wouldn't look too good on a light background lol

Except maybe a solarized theme

DLosc

If I ever get this project off the ground, I may be asking about dark themes sometime in the future.

mathcat

18:24

what project?

DLosc

Esolang syntax highlighter

mathcat

nice

DLosc

I made one for tinylisp and now I'm thinking about generalizing it to support Pip, Quipu, and maybe more.

mathcat

DLosc

@mathcat Uh... why is def the same as int and not the same as for?

mathcat

18:29

That is a good question

Maybe it looks good with green?

SegFaultPlus4

@DLosc everything in shades of blue (so #0000xx, where x is any digit 1-F)

who here has made an esolang (functional)

DLosc

o/

I have made several functional esolangs, at least one of which is also functional.

SegFaultPlus4

@DLosc i am going to join the "made an esolang" group

Ginger Industries

@DLosc I have made several ~~functional~~ esolangs, at least one of which is ~~also~~ functional

mathcat

@SegFaultPlus4 me too!

New Posts

18:35

Isopods.

mathcat

I already have sytax, idea and stuff

SegFaultPlus4

in the process of creating a lang, i encountered a segfault

hence the new name

@NewPosts it's already gone

mathcat

@NewPosts wtf that was deleted very quickly

caird coinheringaahing

...why couldn't I flag that as anything other than a mod flag?

mathcat

It received 4 downvotes with 1 view

Wheat Wizard

18:37

@cairdcoinheringaahing Because it was already gone.

SegFaultPlus4

that went so fast, i almost feel like there is a "i am speed" joke to be made

but i can't see it

caird coinheringaahing

Huh yeah, you got it 10 seconds before I flagged

Interesting that it still allowed me to raise the flag, and that the flag got marked helpful

Wheat Wizard

I marked it as helpful.

Being able to flag deleted posts is important since it's like the only way to get undeleted.

caird coinheringaahing

Did not consider that; I'm used to posts being "untouchable" for more or less any action once deleted

SegFaultPlus4

@cairdcoinheringaahing me having but 1k rep, i can't see the post

caird coinheringaahing

18:39

not much to see, just some more spam

mathcat

but how did it receive 4 downvotes with just a single view?

caird coinheringaahing

Caching

It has 6 views now, the number reported isn't updated until you reload

mathcat

ah ok

SegFaultPlus4

@mathcat because logic doesn't apply here unless it's bitwise

caird coinheringaahing

@SegFaultPlus4 23 seconds, fwiw

I believe hyper has managed <10 seconds before

Radvylf Programs

18:43

Finding a lot of non-OEIS sequences today lol

SegFaultPlus4

@cairdcoinheringaahing was he going for the any% WR

Radvylf Programs

Not sure I'll submit the one I just found though since it's really obscure

SegFaultPlus4

i found a good one

a good sequence, that is

mathcat

Yeah, I've watched it many times in sequence

SegFaultPlus4

@mathcat watched what

mathcat

18:51

I meant seen

I've seen the sequence many times in sequence

wait that doesn't make sense

SegFaultPlus4

@mathcat ok but what is "the sequence"

mathcat

I am confused

I should probably do maths now so I get more confused.

Can you insert text in an HTML textbox and get the value of a paragraph (both of which are on an external website) with code?

Radvylf Programs

With back-end code yes, with front-end JS no

mathcat

oh

Actually, I have a better idea

nvm, thanks

SegFaultPlus4

who even uses JS

mathcat

18:59

Meh

SegFaultPlus4

and doesn't just want to oof

mathcat

Rarely, but yes

@SegFaultPlus4 RadvylfPrograms and uh ThisFieldIsRequired

SegFaultPlus4

@mathcat see ^^ for additions (vv from the original message)

mathcat

vv?

4

SegFaultPlus4

@mathcat means two down

mathcat

19:04

Ey nice

I can make a loop

See vv

See ^

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Fill in the next numbers code-golf array number Given a list of integers, output a list where the \$ i \$th element of the list equals the first number in the input list which is \$ \ge i \$, until there are no such numbers. For example, if the input is the first 5 prime numbers: 2 3 5 7 11 then...

mathcat

@SandboxPosts Ey

SegFaultPlus4

if you read all of the last 500 starred messages i will give you ~~10% of~~ a 500 rep bounty

mathcat

You ruined my loop

SegFaultPlus4

@mathcat lmao the Sandbox just destroyed any hope

mathcat

19:05

Okay, again

See v

See vv

See ^

SegFaultPlus4

see ^

there we go

loop

mathcat

nice

Radvylf Programs

What's the point of the first See v?

it's only reached once

SegFaultPlus4

that was an oops

Radvylf Programs

See v

See ^

Simple loop

mathcat

19:07

See vvv

See v

Radvylf Programs

Padding

mathcat

See ^^

Radvylf Programs

haha I broke the loop

mathcat

Complicated loop

@RadvylfPrograms I'll use my super weapon

one sec

SegFaultPlus4

see > see v

Radvylf Programs

19:09

< See

SegFaultPlus4

see ^ see <

rip

gotta do it again

see > see v

Radvylf Programs

See >

SegFaultPlus4

see ^ see <

why are you doing this @RadvylfPrograms

Radvylf Programs

Haha, I have created an infinite loop between the starboard and back :p

SegFaultPlus4

is it because i called js bad

mathcat

19:10

Yes

Never call JS weird in front of Radvylf

Radvylf Programs

JS is weird and bad

But it's also good and normal

mathcat

- Radvylf, 2022

Radvylf Programs

Chat a tiny bit more to finish the loop

On my screen we've still got a few messages to go before it's complete

mathcat

um what loop?

Radvylf Programs

The starboard loop

You'll see

You'll all see

SegFaultPlus4

19:12

you seem to have made a mistake, let me fix that
"But it's also ---good--- inconsistent and ---normal--- obfuscated"

Radvylf Programs

We've got about five messages to go before all of us enter an infinite loop

SegFaultPlus4

the formatting isn't even working

mathcat

So we can spam Unicode chars? Ņ̸̛̝̹̦̦̍̌̏̍͒͜͠ͅi̶̧̢͈̖̦͓̕c̷̨̡̛̜̈́̓́͌̑e̷̢̨̡͎͋̆

SegFaultPlus4

what is even going on

Radvylf Programs

it's done

Ginger Industries

19:13

@RadvylfPrograms that's my line

Radvylf Programs

4

Ginger Industries

._.

SegFaultPlus4

@RadvylfPrograms for legal reasons, i'm blind

Ginger Industries

it's like Groundhog Day but worse

chamtat

Okay now my loop

mathcat

19:14

Let me make an AHK program

test

It's working!

DLosc

Ah, K

Ginger Industries

hey look at my super cool pcb

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Play an audio file code-golf audio Challenge Your challenge is simple: play an audio file at a given path. Your program will take the file path as input and will play it once and quit. Rules Standard loopholes are forbidden. You may assume (a) specific operating system(s) and/or (a) specific fil...

Radvylf Programs

Feature request: if you use sudo you don't need to provide a password when SSHing

Ginger Industries

one of us is the SSH dev confirmed? /s

@GingerIndustries back of pcb available upon request

Radvylf Programs

19:26

@RadvylfPrograms (Joke is that you can then SSH into anyone's computer as long as you're root on your own machine)

Ginger Industries

oh wait

emanresu A

Hi!

Ginger Industries

hI!

mathcat

I think my ahk is done

Get ready to be blown

3

Loop:

chamtat

See vvv

mathcat

19:35

See v

chamtat

See ^^

mathcat

See ^^

Ginger Industries

h

mathcat

I did it!

Radvylf Programs

@mathcat ~~( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)~~

Ginger Industries

19:35

@mathcat YOU FOOL

CONTEXT, BEGONE

mathcat

what?

Ginger Industries

obligatory

Feb 21 at 23:49, by user

Aug 17 '21 at 13:08, by PyGamer0

31 mins ago, by exedraj

9 secs ago, by Redwolf Programs

12 secs ago, by user

ass

Radvylf Programs

Ginger and I are just being childish

Ginger Industries

@RadvylfPrograms ~~on the internet nobody can tell you're a 2nd grader~~

Radvylf Programs

(There's another meaning of "blow" with a sexual connotation and so "get ready to be blown" sounds funny if you think of it in that context)

Ginger Industries

19:39

congratulations you killed the joke

how could you

it was so young

windows 10 be like

emanresu A

@RadvylfPrograms Simple, fork the javascript.js file

if(token=='window') return 'window' somewhere, and .cm-window { color: darkblue }

Radvylf Programs

Nope, because Text's copy of CM is minified and auto-imported

Ginger Industries

@RadvylfPrograms hey

emanresu A

@RadvylfPrograms Oh :(

Fun fact of the day: Vyxal's syntax highlighter colour theme is copied from vscode.

Ginger Industries

hmmmm

mathcat

19:59

@RadvylfPrograms oh.umpf

Ginger Industries

@mathcat Universal Music Program Format

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