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4:00 AM
@SuperByte Another perspective: I got all my early rep from posting answers. It can be discouraging at first because some answers will get no votes or feedback at all, but keep answering and the votes will start coming in.
Looks like I had about 2200 rep when I posted my first question.
 
I had... 40ish
Although for some reason my first answer is +8 now
And it's in PHP
 
=^o
Fact: the average score of my PHP answers is just under 10
(there are three of them and one's a polyglot)
 
wats a userscript
 
My first answer is on +4 now
 
4:06 AM
It's like a browser extension, but easier to install
You use a userscript manager to install them
 
I have 19-31 PHP score depending on whether polyglots count
 
Tampermonkey for chrome, Greasemonkey for firefox
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani I kinda want to start on a viewer for SE Nitro comiics but is anyone else already doing that?
 
Not to my knowledge
 
how to install tho
 
4:07 AM
@taRadvylfsriksushilani It'd be greatly appreaciated if you did
@DialFrost The userscript manager or the userscript
 
er
whichever one tracks the queue
 
First, google Tampermonkey or Greasemonkey and download that browser extension
Then, open the github page for Generic Review Tool and click "raw"
 
then?
 
It'll prompt you to install it.
 
4:09 AM
ic
 
After that, to run it, you just need to open codegolf.stackexchange.com/review (and I'd pin the tab, so it isn't in the way)
Whenever there's a new review task, it'll then open it in a new tab automatically
You'll know it's working if you see a counting timer when you open that page
 
ic
how to write the cmc header
 
The CMC:?
**CMC:**
 
oh
 
I've forgotten how to do css media queries :P
 
4:14 AM
CMC: Compute the factorial if the number is even otherwise compute the nth fibbonacci number
 
**CMC:** Write a program to find the indices for which the numbers in the list drops.
E.g.
[1,2,1] -> [2]
[5,0,1,2,1] -> [1,4]
[1,2,2,3,2] -> [4]
 
Markdown doesn't work multiline
 
vxyal is too op
how do u write it tho
 
@DialFrost Jelly, 3 bytes: (Try It Online!)
 
Ash, 5: [t!ḞḂ
"JS" lol
 
4:16 AM
> JS
 
(t should be tau, but not gonna bother with greek)
 
i thought you had made a golfing lang called JS for a sec lol
 
haha
 
my reaction: "When the hell did js becom a golflang"
> JS, 5: t!Ḟ[Ḃ
 
@PyGamer0 It's one of the most popular golflangs, TBH. Sure, it's not as golfy as languages like Charcoal or Pip, but it's used by far more people. ;)
 
4:20 AM
neil is basically 100% charcoal lmao
 
i thought java was the best golflang
 
...
 
Can't wait to finish my ranking script and find the least golfy language
 
Taxi / whitespace probably
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani Pretty sure it's gonna be Shakespeare
 
4:22 AM
@DialFrost looks at Neil's Retina answers
 
er
charcoal+retina
:)
 
hello
 
@DialFrost ValueError: charcoal not defined.
@SuperByte hi
 
...
 
4:23 AM
@taRadvylfsriksushilani Can we sign Vyxal bot up for the great PFP swap?
 
lmao
 
I'd say no, that could get a little weird with the no-bots rule
 
I AM GOAT FEED ME BUTTER
 
Hm okay
What about other socks?>
 
Probably should stick with recognizable users
 
4:24 AM
^
 
Having a ton of socks means we'd dilute the pool
 
true
 
@DLosc On the other hand, Mornington Crescent
which for some reason isn't showing up in the Elo ranking... maybe it doesn't have enough pure code-golf answers
 
The Elo script is pretty broken
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani I feel like you have been on here for like 1 hr
@DLosc too
 
4:30 AM
There could also be some random BF derivative or something that's super long
@SuperByte I'm here basically 24/7
 
I'm not :P
But I am here for hours at a time sometimes
 
Fun fact:   is valid HTML for a non-breaking space
(Although it's ungolfy)
 
@DLosc I count at least 24, so that shouldn't be the issue
 
I think it can only handle 50k answers
So older ones are left out
(It can handle any number presumably, but SEDE can't, and I don't think lyxal goes through the effort of merging the CSVs manually)
It also just might not understand the formatting of the header for some
I think the Elo script only catches less than 100 languages, compared to more than 600 that mine can find (with the same 10 answer threshold and duplicates removed)
 
5:09 AM
thanks, copilot
 
Seems legit
Except that last line might be a problem, IDK
Speaking of computer-generated content, one of my favorite old PPCG moments: "The butt is dirty and is a funny bad person"
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani I do
There's a site that merges multiple csvs at once
Completely unrelated: isn't it funny how you can be swimming in water for an hour and then be dehydrated even though you were surrounded by water all that time
 
yeah why can't your body just absorb the water through your skin smh
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani bubbler suggested a method that allows you to get every answer in 3 or 4 runs of the query
 
@hyper-neutrino frogs op
 
5:28 AM
There are 177k answers and 12k questions out of 241k posts
 
@emanresuA so the average question gets almost 15 answers, huh
I wonder how badly that average is skewed by the "often answered" questions with 300+ answers
 
As in there are a lot of deleted posts
@cairdcoinheringaahing Not at all probably
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing That sounds about right.
 
@emanresuA At least 2k answers belong to <10 questions and we have ~70 unanswered questions, I suspect the median is quite far from the mean
@taRadvylfsriksushilani Does it have to be a mod? Cause Imm already mad at y'all for even trying to organise this
 
C'mon, it'll be fun
Average quesions here get 5-30 answers depending on difficulty I think
ಠ_ಠ
 
5:44 AM
@emanresuA Put it this way: I disliked the Lyxal, Redwolf, whoever else was involved swap last time, and I knew who's pfp/username went where. This is going to have many more users involved, and it'll be "at random" for us regular users
Plus, the original wasn't even that funny. Doing it again immediately loses points IMO for doing something unfunny again
 
I'm not going to debate this with you but I'm going to join in and see where it goes.
 
Same
 
Yeah, you lot have fun, I'm not going to try to stop it. Just need to get plans sorted for Friday/Saturday so I miss it :P
 
i'm not sure i actually remember the first one but if i do i think i was just
confused
 
Imma stay my usual self so the other TNB regulars have a familiar face they can trust ^_^'
 
5:48 AM
^ same
When elected RO, I pledged to keep my profile picture and username the same and, aside from my delightful Santa hat, I stand by that promise :P
 
and i'll make sure to schedule my next pfp change for afterwards :P
 
And then I'll change my username and pic some other time when y'all aren't doing it because I guess I'm a hipster or something
 
@UnrelatedString it was fun watching those involved try to pretend to be whoever they said they were, but it got old and confusing fast :/
A potentially better idea could be for a "Werewofl" style game, where everyone is assigned a random user and have to imitate them. People can "accuse" others of actually being a specific user, vote on it, and if correct, that user is "out"
 
> Werewofl
Best typo of the day
Werewolf on the floor laughing
 
Honestly, the number of times I'd said "Redwofl", it's even become one of my autocorrect things :P
 
6:00 AM
@taRadvylfsriksushilani @mathcat @GingerIndustries Made a viewer for SE Nitro
Only first two chapters are there right now, and it's a bit laggy - give it a second after pressing next.
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing that would actually be great
would probably have to do it on a platform other than se chat since looking at post history would become cheating
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing The issue I see with these rules as written is that people have no incentive to actually imitate their assigned user. The better they are at it, the more likely they are to get "out."
 
6:27 AM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

CoderMinimum number of changed tiles to permit knight passage code-golf path-finding Summary Given a chess knight K that is only allowed to step on permitted tiles X, output the minimum number of . tiles that must be changed to an X tile in order to permit a passage to the destination D. Specification...

 
@DLosc I may have gotten the rules mixed up a bit: I'll use real users for simplicity's sake. Lyxal is pretending to be Redwolf, but isn't doing a good job of it. Therefore, emanresu A (who is pretending to be Lyxal) says "I think Redwolf is actually Lyxal", and everyone else still playing votes if they agree or not. If the majority agree - and emanresu was correct - Lyxal is now out
For example, if emanresu said "I think Redwolf is actually caird" and a majority agree, then Lyxal (pretending to be Redwolf) would say "nope, I'm not caird" and it would continue
Of course, this would require everyone to be honest if they were found out. Also, someone could just nominate every possible pairing and eventually win, but I'd hope people wouldn't do that
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing ... I'm confused. Didn't Lyxal just reveal who he's pretending to be in this scenario?
 
@DLosc No, so "Redwolf" (being played by Lyxal) would say "No, I'm not caird". Now, all that means is that anyone other than caird is pretending to be Redwolf, but it doesn't reveal who is
So the convo would go something like this (it may take a while for me to type this out):
 
@Adám Jellyfish, 16 bytes
 
Yay, I sorta understand HTTP caching now
 
6:41 AM
> Redwolf (pretending to be caird): "Hello everybody, did you know that Jelly is the best :P"
lyxal (pretending to be Redwolf): "Uh oh, I just ordered 16 terabytes of ram from this store, and now I have to call them, but my phone's running out of charge and I don't have a charger"
emanresu A (pretending to be lyxal): "this is sus. I think 'Redwolf' is actually caird pretending to be Redwolf"
lyxal (pretending to be Redowlf): "Nah, I'm not caird, try again"
caird (pretending to be emanresu A): "I'm plat like Aaron"
 
Hm ok, sounds interesting
 
I know, I'm a perfect impersonator for all of us, thank you :P
 
Jokes on you, I've been lyxal's sock for the past eleven months
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing So in this case, lyxal, due to his poor impression of Redowlf is now out, and the game continues with just caird, Redowlf and emanresu A. And so on, until there's just 2 people left
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing But isn't lyxal revealed to be playing Redwolf because someone mentioned Redwolf and lyxal answered in the first person?
 
6:47 AM
@DLosc But, due to the profile picture switches, lyxal pretending to be Redowlf has Redwolf'd username and pfp, so "I" refers to the user behind the screen aka lyxal, who isn't known by referring to themselves in the first person
So emanresu's accusation is saying "the profile that looks like Redwolf is currently being run by the person that is caird". However, the person that is lyxal knows this is wrong, so says "No, the profile that is Redwolf is not run by the person that is caird, but by someone else"
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Ohh, okay. For some reason I thought you were proposing this game instead of the profile switching, but you're proposing a game that would run on top of the profile switching.
 
The only issue is that chat is linked to main profiles, so you can see who is who by clicking through. But, like all games, we'd have to assume some basic intergrity
@DLosc Yeah, the profile switching "just for the confusion" I'm against, profile switching for a game? I'm down
 
due to the total-across-sites rep display on large messages you could get unwanted information without even meaning to
 
Luckily, that only shows if you send a block of messages all together
single/double messages don't show the rep info
 
or something with a onebox
but yeah
that could be avoided
 
6:51 AM
Potentially, a room could be created on either the MSE or SO chat servers, as they only show MSE/SO rep totals
 
also would probably want to link chat profiles to windows phone or something so we could not swap on main so we don't have to avoid using main to avoid accidentally cheating
ooh
 
In fact, although I'm not sure how, it's possible to create site-specific servers, so it may be possible to create a room on e.g. a Windows Phone.SE server, and use that
You'd need to be either a mod or have 1k rep on the site tho
 
isnt radvylf also a RO?
and isnt he going to participate in the pfp swap?
 
yesterday, by hyper-neutrino
if you get me, you get mod powers
 
@DLosc @hyper-neutrino o_o
can you even do that?
 
6:57 AM
in case it wasn't clear that is entirely a joke
 
^
 
@PyGamer0 We're discussing a potential game based around pfp swap, the current plan is just "swap pfps, haha confused"
@PyGamer0 Yes, but it requires SE to step in :P
 
i'm not participating (in fact if i'm not a huge fan of the swap in the first place but i'll let y'all have your fun) even because i don't want to make my identity confusing
and even if i were it'd require SE to demote me and promote someone else, in other words, no that isn't happening :P
 
yes, with the diamond it'd be very hard to find out who HN is :P
 
my identity wouldn't be hard to figure out, that's not my point
 
6:59 AM
@hyper-neutrino can you 11 my name to PyGamer1 :P
or PyGamer11d
 
@hyper-neutrino Not necessarily. You and the other CGCC mods could indicate to SE that you'd like an additional mod to join the team, they'd hold an election, the site agrees to only vote for PyGamer (with a dummy second candidate to make it competitive) and PyGamer gets mod powers :P
 
can't you change it yourself?
 
Totally reasonable and likely :P
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing lmao :P
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing lôl
who unpinned the pfp swap of 2022?
 
i thought it was pinned
 
Nope, just starred
 
I definitely saw it as pinned at first
 
^
 
chat.stackexchange.com/messages/60256013/history actually, looks like "pinned, then unpinned" isn't saved in the history, so maybe
 
7:05 AM
protip before pfp swap happens: write ids of all main users on a piece of paper so you can tell who is who
 
Here's a trick for figuring out who I am: my pfp will have a dog wearing a santa hat in it, you might need to look closely tho :P
 
looks closely with a microscope
 
@PyGamer0 I know Dennis is 12012... that probably doesn't help :(
 
@DLosc imagine dennis does the profile swap too
then that will help
my id is 103854
 
@PyGamer0 I doubt Dennis will be here (thus the "probably not," and the frowny face)
 
7:09 AM
If the first thing Dennis does after a 2 year hiatus is the profile swap, I'll personally insist that the entire site does a profile swap and never switch back
 
i would agree to that
 
I... well, "never" is a long time. I'd have to think about it. :P
 
ok i dont remember writing this answer
 
5 hours ago, by caird coinheringaahing
Can we reopen this so it can be hammered as a dupe of this? As noted in the comments, the first is just \$a(n) = 98a(n-1) + a(n-2)\$, so they're essentially identical, and closing it as a duplicate makes it more useful than leaving it closed as unclear
 
7:25 AM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

AnttiPTrap the persistent hero in a maze Last time a challenger tried to thwart your evil magical deeds, they got trapped in a maze that you created to be as small as possible, giving up only a few steps from the exit. Now there is another hero on the way. If it ain't broke, why fix it, so you ask the ...

 
@DLosc Golfed to 15 bytes!
 
hi guys
do u guys know minecraft? lmao
 
7:41 AM
no
never heard of it
 
7:54 AM
what's a minecraft
 
@hyper-neutrino I think it's that game with cubes. You know, where they drop from the ceiling and you fit them together
 
8:15 AM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

AnttiPRagged list addition Let's define the operator \$+\$ as follows, using wrapping list indexing: \$ a+b=\begin{cases} a+b,\space\text{if }a\text{ and }b\text{ are integers (regular integer addition)}\\ [a+b[0], a+b[1], ...,a+b[len(b)-1]],\text{if }a\text{ is an integer and }b\text{ is a list}\\ [a[...

 
@DialFrost I've only heard of [Minecrap]
 
lmaooooo
 
@DialFrost no, i know minceraft
what on earth is this minecraft?
 
 
1 hour later…
9:26 AM
is there just a plain sliding window challenge?
like [1,2,3,4],2 -> [[1,2],[2,3],[3,4]]
 
9:57 AM
@PyGamer0 i don't remember seeing any, no
@DialFrost only heard of minceraft thanks to @emanresuA
 
10:20 AM
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Q: Probability breaking sequences

Wheat WizardIf we have a finite list of elements we can determine the probability of any one element being drawn at random as the number of times it occurs divided by the total number of elements in the list. For example if the list is [2,3,2,4] the probability of drawing 2 is \$\frac 1 2\$ since there are \...

 
10:37 AM
CMP: Do yall agree that youtube is becoming worser day by day
 
maybe
:)
 
too much bots
 
lol
quick qns
is this a good qns
"Truncatable Primes"
so
If the integer is only a left-truncatable prime, return "left".
If the integer is only a right-truncatable prime, return "right".
If the integer is both, return "both".
Otherwise, return False.
any suggestiosn?
maybe pygamer?
 
11:03 AM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

DialFrostTruncatable Primes A left-truncatable prime is a prime number and when the first digit is successively removed, the result is always prime. A right-truncatable prime is a prime number and when the last digit is successively removed, the result is always prime. If the integer is only a left-trunca...

 
11:25 AM
@DialFrost maybe dup? clicky linky
 
 
1 hour later…
12:36 PM
Any file that is ~50MB, unlikely compressed more, and typical enough as data of a puzzle?
 
Are you asking if it’s okay to have files as large as 50 MB for test cases?
 
I'm making a puzzle where small file would make it trivial
 
12:58 PM
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Q: Don't output the file

l4m2This is a quite compressed 65024-byte exe file. Requiring to output the content is absolutely no fun. But you aren't. Actually, you're to do something opposite: Output a binary of same length, such that no byte equals to the byte at same position from source. This is code-golf, shortest code win.

 
Seems I needn't 50MB
 
1:15 PM
GOOD ${TIMEOFDAY} MOTHER****ERS
 
its night here
 
so I realised I did something stupid
turns out I got the math for planet rotations correct at least 3 seperate times but didn't realise it
The inevitable conclusion is "whoops"
 
lol
@thejonymyster what do you mean by "Having multiple generations happen at a time seems contrary to "output the next generation""?
 
@PyGamer0 well, maybe i misunderstood what a "generation" is. in my mind, i was thinking it was the same as in conways game of life, where each step is a "generation"
but my thought was: if you simulate multiple steps, you're not outputting the 'next' step
 
hm true
 
1:28 PM
youre outputting some step After the next step
 
@GingerIndustries thats real actually they found a planet that does that
 
@thejonymyster but if it eats then only it increments the generation
so it
makes sense
 
@thejonymyster ah yes, a planet that instantly flashes between the three points of its triangular orbit
 
@PyGamer0 you should define what a "generation" is, then i think
 
1:29 PM
I guess it's time for me to fix this :/
 
ok
@GingerIndustries lmao
 
@GingerIndustries this xkcd but replace " zip code" with "ly orbiting planet"
 
@GingerIndustries the earth spinning so fast is making me laugh lol
 
omg i didnt notice
thats so sillymode
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani What is that?
 
1:30 PM
@PyGamer0 it's real-time. The earth rotates 365 times per orbit
@thejonymyster I'm sorry what
 
@GingerIndustries i know
 
now all I have to do is add another one and make it a pentagram
one sec
 
@GingerIndustries its so funnysilly
 
nvm it won't let me summon a demon with planetary orbits ;-;
3
for some reason the planets jiggle when they complete a full orbit, hmmmmmm
 
(nvm this message sounded weirder than i planned)
 
1:34 PM
Jan 23 at 8:58, by PyGamer0
CMC: Decrypt ifz-!zpv!dbo(u!sfbe!uijt-!ps!dbo!zpv@
Jan 23 at 9:01, by PyGamer0
CMC: Decrypt: ~rs}*s}*k*xsmo*mrkvvoxqo
Jan 23 at 9:06, by PyGamer0
CMC: Decrypt: 5xjkw roe!uuht#vareon#cog!sfihloh and 6xhlu ooi#wueu#sdrhon$eph vgeflpj
 
@PyGamer0 I'll do it in a sec
 
those aren't encrypted those are just my passwords as is
i love when i get to make an account for something important cause it gives me an excuse to think of a really good ridiculously long password
my longest password is 38 bytes chars long and fun to type
why am i tellign you this? Well, i am crazy...
 
@PyGamer0 hey-!you!can(t!read!this-!or!can!you@
 
@thejonymyster pls tell your password also /s
@GingerIndustries uh do it with the punctuation also
 
@PyGamer0 ~hi}*i}*a*nice*challenge
 
1:38 PM
@GingerIndustries wrong
 
@PyGamer0 hmmm
susin
 
do it with spaces, commas, etc
@GingerIndustries and how did you decrypt that?
 
i'll come back to this. I have moons to work on!
 
ok
lol
 
@PyGamer0 thats the worst part of typing a really long fun password is that you cant tell it to anyone after
 
why is the moon flat
are you a flat-mooner
6
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

AZTECCOCount count count.. code-golf You have a list of integers and start counting from the first term to the next and continue from that to the next and so on.. How many times you counted? For example given [2,5,3,8] you start at 2 and count to 5: 3 4 5 (3 times) then from 5, 4 3 (2 times) and finally...

 
2:04 PM
@lyxal did you design it yourself?
If yes then please teach me how to, I can't even animate a stickman :P
 
2:16 PM
@PyGamer0 too easy
"hey, you can't read this, or can you?"
:P
wait you actually gave me an idea
lemme make a cipher solver
 
@GingerIndustries then are you rickroller?
this is rickroll obviously
 
obviously not
 
@mathcat this is 100% rickroll
 
bet?
 
yes
 
2:20 PM
@mathcat no
 
@Fmbalbuena I clicked on the link
 
@mathcat It was AI generated, he used an app iirc.
 
@mathcat and you rickrolled but not
 
@AaroneousMiller nice
 
@AaroneousMiller what app?
 
2:22 PM
Can someone vote to delete this answer
-4
A: Goldbach's conjecture

MofBGoldbach's conjecture is now proven. Paper published in Science of Climate Change, Vol. 1 No. 2: scc.klimarealistene.com

I hate the suspension of review queues by declined edits.
 
@lyxal I just modulo the IDs
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani how many delete votes this answer there are?
 
I can't see the number of spam flags
 
But SE Nitro can
 
Delete votes aren't ususally used for removing spam
 
2:28 PM
@taRadvylfsriksushilani i said delete votes, not spam flags
 
@mathcat It is exactly 8
 
@hyper-neutrino Can you delete this?
 
@Fmbalbuena Delete votes aren't used for spam because you need 3 20k users to do it, and there's no spam penalty
 
problem: I programmed the sim to attach the moons to the planets they belonged to, which makes sense. However, I neglected to account for the fact that children of objects are affected by the rotation of their parents. :/
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani Should I flag as naa or spam? (I chose naa)
 
2:32 PM
Spam
 
... I chose naa
 
Usually that would be NAA/VLQ, but a comment states they've been spamming network wide
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani you must say "ninja'd"
 
I flagged before I saw the comment
 
2:32 PM
@BgilMidol No worries, it just sent it to the Low Quality queue, where I gave it another spam flag :p
 
Now this is deleted. I gain 1 rep?
 
@emanresuA Your comic viewer is awesome, +1 million
I think you missed a frame in P1C3, where the mod shoots the parentheses at Ginger before the fridge is nuked
 
@emanresuA I think I can improve it a bit but otherwise me likey
 
I'm going to make an official novelization after P3 is published
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani nice
 
2:37 PM
nice
 
nice
 
nice
 
nice
@taRadvylfsriksushilani edit?
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani why is "when are you available" needed for the pf swap?
 
2:39 PM
So we can coordinate the swapping
Having, e.g., two mathcats at once would be bad
 
yeah, right
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani yeah
 
Major plot stuff dropping in Par for the Course right now
 
wow caird
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani link to the room?
 
@mathcat He generated a bunch of different images using users' usernames, if you want you can see some more here:

 The Edge of Propinquity

This may or may not be a room for AI-generated text, images, a...
@BgilMidol idk, I think he might've mentioned it somewhere
 
noice
 

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