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user

22:03

Redwolf’s comment on that lol

Redwolf Programs

Okay it turns out Chromebooks have an extremely good INTL layout

Porting it over to Windows is taking ages because it just has so. many. dead. keys.

Although idk why the windows layout just doesn't seem to bother adding support for anything other than like...spanish, french, and german

emanresu A

@user Agreed lol

lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms I know right

Like I just want to type jelly easily... I don't want to have to struggle with dead keys for 10 minutes lol

Redwolf Programs

How different are Australian and US keyboards?

lyxal

I don't notice any difference when switching layouts

Redwolf Programs

22:13

If they're pretty similar, I might make an Australian version of my custom US-INTL layout

lyxal

We don't have any dead keys tho

Redwolf Programs

Normal US ones don't either

So I guess they're the same

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms The Aussie one replaces the "order mcdonalds" button with "throw a shrimp on the barbie" one

The UK one has it as "put the kettle on"

Redwolf Programs

UK and US keyboards are actually pretty different IIRC, right?

Don't y'all have " above 2?

caird coinheringaahing

Oh yeah

Redwolf Programs

22:15

I have an old typewriter like that

caird coinheringaahing

Our number-shifts are !"£$%^&*()

Redwolf Programs

I wonder if it has the same layout as a UK keyboard

lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms wait what?

Then where's the @ key on UK keyboards?

caird coinheringaahing

What are the three keys to the right of the asdf row for y'all?

lyxal

And where's the #?

caird coinheringaahing

22:17

We have ;'# and :@~ (shifted)

Redwolf Programs

;/:, '/", and that's it

lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms same

caird coinheringaahing

Wait, what does your keyboard actually look like?

emanresu A

@cairdcoinheringaahing caps lock

caird coinheringaahing

How do I have an extra key on the asdf row?

Redwolf Programs

22:19

@cairdcoinheringaahing Top row: `/~, number keys, -/_, =/+, backspace. Next row has tab, Q to P, [, ], and backslash. Next row has caps lock, a to l, ;, ', and enter. Next row has shift, z to m, ,, ., /, and right shift. Final row has some assortment of moderator keys and the space bar.

> moderator keys

HN's keyboard be like

emanresu A

@RedwolfPrograms Same

caird coinheringaahing

Huh, so you don't have an enter key that spans 2 rows?

Redwolf Programs

Nope

lyxal

Neither.

caird coinheringaahing

That's more or less what mine looks like

emanresu A

22:21

All the answers here are at -1

Hm, sum of answer score = challenge score

Redwolf Programs

un-ratio'd?

lyxal

@cairdcoinheringaahing oh boy that placement of the pipe sure is something

Redwolf Programs

That messed me up when designing my layout

Because windows kbd layout editor has a key there

So I thought it was z and shifted my whole lower row over

emanresu A

Nice lol

Redwolf Programs

But good news is, my keyboard supports hungarian now, for some reason

lyxal

22:23

@RedwolfPrograms + you got back up + do care + did ask + W + glad cuz good + based

Redwolf Programs

Now I just have 8 more dead keys to go

emanresu A

~~Vyxal keyboard layout~~

Redwolf Programs

~~Doesn't the codepage change like daily~~

emanresu A

No actually

lyxal

That hasn't happened since April last year lol

emanresu A

22:25

v2?

Redwolf Programs

Dang, I have to go do stuff for like an hour, and I don't know how to save your work in the keyboard editor, so I guess I'm just leaving my laptop open for the rest of the day lol

lyxal

@emanresuA and v1 too

emanresu A

Wait do you mean april 2020?

lyxal

2021

emanresu A

Oh ok nvm lol

Do you think Vyxal would've been different if you'd had copilot from the start?

lyxal

22:27

Maybe, but probably not.

Copilot is only autocomplete - it can't think of things like refactoring if statements into a dictionary

And it can't automatically package your language for you either lol

Redwolf Programs

Should my INTL layout have a dead key for greek?

Something like AltGr + G maybe?

Since greek is used in a lot of languge's code pages

user

22:49

@lyxal tbh I don't like the dictionary approach, the lambda:s look clumsy

I'm looking forward to Python 3.10 being supported by PA

lyxal

@user Would you agree that it's better than consecutive if statements though?

@user by the time that happens we'll be using Scala lol

user

Yeah (to both messages)

Ahhh that reminds me I need to work on the Scala implementation more

emanresu A

And I need to learn Scala more

May as well since my Vyxal dev environment's broken

2 hours ago, by emanresu A

And... now I'm stuck on v2.6.0 'cos I don't have root access

lyxal

@emanresuA install as a user package?

Like pip install vyxal --user

emanresu A

23:10

I mean installing the local version pip install -e .

And that throws an unrelated error:

ERROR: Project file:///Users/.../Documents/go_test/33/xyz/ecl/Vyxal has a 'pyproject.toml' and its build backend is missing the 'build_editable' hook. Since it does not have a 'setup.py' nor a 'setup.cfg', it cannot be installed in editable mode.

lyxal

lol

emanresu A

Speaking of Vyxal dev, when are we going to set up vyxaldev.pa?

Fmbalbuena

Is this correct? Regex to check if the number is divisible by 3 (binary) ^(?:0*(?:1(?(?:01*0)*)1)*)*$

@RedwolfPrograms ^

@emanresuA no

New Posts

23:28

Q: Iterate your way to a fraction

I recently learned from a comment by MathOverflow user pregunton that it is possible to enumerate all rational numbers using iterated maps of the form \$f(x) = x+1\$ or \$\displaystyle g(x) = -\frac 1x\$, starting from \$0\$. For example, $$0 \overset{f}{\mapsto} 1 \overset{f}{\mapsto} 2 \overset...

caird coinheringaahing

@NewPosts I was waiting for a challenge based on that MO post

(well, technically this MO post, but still)

emanresu A

@Fmbalbuena Was not talking to you

Sandbox Posts

23:51

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